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In between studying for my Corporation Law final tomorrow, I wish to engage in some parental style dick measuring.

You know how some parents let their kids taste alcoholic beverages so that the child will make an 'icky' face and decide that alcohol is disgusting? My 5 year old apparently has a taste for gin. Massive backfire. I didn't think I'd have to get a locked liquor cabinet until she was at least 10.

Measure away.

Firstly, good luck on your final. :)

Secondly, my son passed away in August 2007. I miss him a lot.

Firstly, good luck on your final. :)

Secondly, my son passed away in August 2007. I miss him a lot.

Damn, seriously? How old and what was the cause? My sympathies.

I'm not entirely certain I could recover from something like that.

To be honest, he wasn't my actual son (he was a pet). But I loved him as if he were my own son. He died of kidney failure.

In between studying for my Corporation Law final tomorrow, I wish to engage in some parental style dick measuring.

You know how some parents let their kids taste alcoholic beverages so that the child will make an 'icky' face and decide that alcohol is disgusting? My 5 year old apparently has a taste for gin. Massive backfire. I didn't think I'd have to get a locked liquor cabinet until she was at least 10.

Measure away.

Apparently my dad tried this once; or at least, at age three or four or something I was after his gin and he decided to give me some to stop me bugging him about it ... didn't work at the time. But I don't actually touch alcohol these days; my family has something of a history of self-medicating for depression, and I decided it wasn't a good idea.

To be honest, he wasn't my actual son (he was a pet). But I loved him as if he were my own son. He died of kidney failure.

Dude, don't make me kick your ass. While I sympathise with the loss of a pet, it's not nearly the same as sympathising with the loss of a child. *smack*

To be honest, he wasn't my actual son (he was a pet). But I loved him as if he were my own son. He died of kidney failure.
you kept a child as a pet?

Dude, don't make me kick your ass. While I sympathise with the loss of a pet, it's not nearly the same as sympathising with the loss of a child. *smack*

*skillfully dodges the smack*

you kept a child as a pet?

LOL, no. My pet cat was like a son to me.

Apparently my dad tried this once; or at least, at age three or four or something I was after his gin and he decided to give me some to stop me bugging him about it ... didn't work at the time. But I don't actually touch alcohol these days; my family has something of a history of self-medicating for depression, and I decided it wasn't a good idea.

My family too. I figure the best thing to do is model social drinking skills, because I didn't really get too much of that. When I want to get seriously smashed, I do it out of sight of the kids. When it's just regular drinking, I don't mind the kids knowing I'm doing it. We've already talked about things like the effects of alcohol, and how it can make you sick if you have too much.

Smoking, on the other hand, is not something I like doing in front of my kids at all. Though they aren't stupid. So after finals, and this last pack of smokes, I'm going to make an honest effort to cut that shit out. Also, I can't stand the smell, and no one wants to kiss an ashtray.

So after finals, and this last pack of smokes, I'm going to make an honest effort to cut that shit out.

Good. Your health is important. :)

Also, I can't stand the smell, and no one wants to kiss an ashtray.

I would, if the ashtray was hot. *runs*

LOL, no. My pet cat was like a son to me.
oh PHEW.

condolences on the loss of your cat.

Smoking, on the other hand, is not something I like doing in front of my kids at all. Though they aren't stupid. So after finals, and this last pack of smokes, I'm going to make an honest effort to cut that shit out. Also, I can't stand the smell, and no one wants to kiss an ashtray.

I find cigars taste, and smell, much better. Plus, they cause fewer adverse health effects.

Plus, they cause fewer adverse health effects.

Seriously? If so, source?

oh PHEW.

condolences on the loss of your cat.

Thanks.

Btw, cool dog in your avatar. Is that yours?

you kept a child as a pet?
That would be prima facie dicklessness. Measuring stick unecessary, failure assumed. Though I have recently considered that my kids would have loved a pet cage when they were smaller. Good thing I didn't think of it back then, I can just imagine the looks from other parents.

Seriously? If so, source?

From what I understand, less lung cancer, more mouth and throat cancers.

Seriously? If so, source?
Don't make me put you on a time out, you Somali thread pirate!

To tie this into parenting...do you make your children source their claims?

I try. It's pretty funny to see what they come up with.

Thanks.

Btw, cool dog in your avatar. Is that yours?
nah, its just a dog i saw on the street and took a picture of. i like that she has her tongue sticking out.

my sister and i share ownership of a maltipoo. the bestest dog ever. and i have a tuxedo cat that i got from the local animal shelter. we were concerned that she would be ...damaged...by her time in the shelter but she is a great cat.

and i have a son who i have successfully raised to adulthood. since he is not a drug addict, in jail or a father i feel that i must have done a great job. (even if he did drop out of college)

*pointedly ignores pet stories*

and i have a son who i have successfully raised to adulthood. since he is not a drug addict, in jail or a father i feel that i must have done a great job. (even if he did drop out of college)

Pretty good indicia of a decent parenting job.

and i have a son who i have successfully raised to adulthood. since he is not a drug addict, in jail or a father i feel that i must have done a great job. (even if he did drop out of college)

I did the same thing.

I consume everything the birthing sac excretes.

I did the same thing.
you sent your cat to college!

Seriously? If so, source?

# Cigarette smoking is the most common method of tobacco consumption. There is no credible evidence that "Low Tar," "Light," or "Ultra Light" cigarettes are safer than regular cigarettes.[15] Most of these terms refer to the type of filter that is used, and can vary depending on the brand. In some countries, advertising cigarettes as being "Light" has been banned. Smoking cigarettes increases mortality rates by 40% in those who smoke less than 10 cigarettes a day, by 70% in those who smoke 10–19 a day, by 90% in those who smoke 20–39 a day, and by 120% in those smoking two packs a day or more.[16]

# Cigar smoking is generally not inhaled as is cigarette smoke, because the high alkalinity of the smoke can quickly become irritating to the trachea and lungs.[17][18] The relative risk for cigar-only smokers of all-cause mortality is 1.02 for 1-2 cigars/day, 1.08 for 3-4 cigars/day, and 1.17 for 5+ cigars/day. A NIH study done concerning those who smoked at least one cigar per day, found that "The health risks associated with less than daily smoking (occasional smokers) are not known."[19] Though most cigar smokers do not inhale, those that do have risks of lung cancer similar to cigarette smokers. Increased risk for heart attack is less for cigar smokers, but still present.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_tobacco_smoking

When your child's teacher talks about your child's schooltime mischief, laughing sends her the wrong message. :tongue:

When your child's teacher talks about your child's schooltime mischief, laughing sends her the wrong message. :tongue:

I have great difficulty with this. Because when my children do something outrageous, I have to admire their ingenuity. If I particularly admire said ingenuity, I'll explain why it was awesome, and yet not appropriate at that particular moment in time.

Don't have too many stories just yet, my son is only a year and a half right now.

That said he finally said his first word last weekend. Said word was oishii (おいしい), Japanese for yummy. Given that we've yet to find anything that this kid won't eat (He likes lemons, as in chewing on them) I have a feeling that the cost for feeding the beast is going to be rather high.

When your child's teacher talks about your child's schooltime mischief, laughing sends her the wrong message. :tongue:
oh lord teachers have NO sense of humor.

when my son was in ....7th grade (probably) the teacher had a little talk with me about how uncoordinated he was. she told me that it was so bad that he actually fell out of his chair almost every day. i looked at her and suggested that maybe it was a joke. she was pretty sure it wasnt.

what an idiot.

In between studying for my Corporation Law final tomorrow, I wish to engage in some parental style dick measuring.

You know how some parents let their kids taste alcoholic beverages so that the child will make an 'icky' face and decide that alcohol is disgusting? My 5 year old apparently has a taste for gin. Massive backfire. I didn't think I'd have to get a locked liquor cabinet until she was at least 10.

Measure away.

it worked for me. of course, it wasn't Gin, but just plain beer.

and not a parent. so I can only give you 'Uncle' moments. :p

oh lord teachers have NO sense of humor.
HEY!:mad:

When your child's teacher talks about your child's schooltime mischief, laughing sends her the wrong message. :tongue:
depends on HOW you laugh... start with a grin and slowly chuckle and if done right... the teacher will be chuckling while giving you the report. ;)

LOL, no. My pet cat was like a son to me.
hey, my Crayfish are my kids... and you don't see me sharing stories of their antics.

(and yes, they can get very entertaining...)

When your child's teacher talks about your child's schooltime mischief, laughing sends her the wrong message. :tongue:

Indeed. Also, telling them that they did something stupid that led to unintended consequences and that your child should not be in trouble..doesn't go over well either. (seriously, when you tell a kid to quit answering all the questions.......and then they quit answering questions.....how do you punish the kid?!)

In slightly related news the 7 year old conned her teacher into doing her homework for her.....I wasn't entirely sure how to handle it at first....I mean

1. She should do her own homework
2. I do believe she learned to delegate from me
3. If her teacher was so easily manipulated can I really expect her to abstain?

In the end she was unhappy with the quality of her teacher's work and did the assignment herself. We dropped the class and got a new teacher, one who wouldn't be so easily manipulated.

Indeed. Also, telling them that they did something stupid that led to unintended consequences and that your child should not be in trouble..doesn't go over well either. (seriously, when you tell a kid to quit answering all the questions.......and then they quit answering questions.....how do you punish the kid?!)

In slightly related news the 7 year old conned her teacher into doing her homework for her.....I wasn't entirely sure how to handle it at first....I mean

1. She should do her own homework
2. I do believe she learned to delegate from me
3. If her teacher was so easily manipulated can I really expect her to abstain?

In the end she was unhappy with the quality of her teacher's work and did the assignment herself. We dropped the class and got a new teacher, one who wouldn't be so easily manipulated.

LOL!!!

did that teacher learn anything? :D

oh lord teachers have NO sense of humor.

when my son was in ....7th grade (probably) the teacher had a little talk with me about how uncoordinated he was. she told me that it was so bad that he actually fell out of his chair almost every day. i looked at her and suggested that maybe it was a joke. she was pretty sure it wasnt.

what an idiot.
Perhaps, but maybe your son is truly an excellent actor. You should have encouraged that gift!

Don't have too many stories just yet, my son is only a year and a half right now.

That said he finally said his first word last weekend. Said word was oishii (おいしい), Japanese for yummy. Given that we've yet to find anything that this kid won't eat (He likes lemons, as in chewing on them) I have a feeling that the cost for feeding the beast is going to be rather high.
Hehe. My friend has one of those. He's 2 1/2 now, I think. Last week they were on a playground and he was playing in a little play house, being suspiciously quiet - when she looked in he was happily munching on a sandwich he found on the ground in there. >.<

Hehe. My friend has one of those. He's 2 1/2 now, I think. Last week they were on a playground and he was playing in a little play house, being suspiciously quiet - when she looked in he was happily munching on a sandwich he found on the ground in there. >.<
Ugh, I'd prefer that to having horribly picky children. They're getting better, but it's taken a lot of effort and starvation.

My outlaws blended up food and spoon fed it to their children pretty much until age 11. Their kids ate solids, but that was still their main meal. This was the path they wanted my children on.

I think it's important to note that said outlaws' children are all obese. And won't eat anything but their mommy's cooking. Fuck. That.

Hehe. My friend has one of those. He's 2 1/2 now, I think. Last week they were on a playground and he was playing in a little play house, being suspiciously quiet - when she looked in he was happily munching on a sandwich he found on the ground in there. >.<
That sounds exactly like something he would do. He's already notorious for going around to other people's lunch boxes and trying to steal food out of them. The bad part is that he's cute and since he's half Japanese half American, his playmates' parents are absolutly fascinated with him and let him get away with it.

My outlaws blended up food and spoon fed it to their children pretty much until age 11. Their kids ate solids, but that was still their main meal.
o_O

That sounds exactly like something he would do. He's already notorious for going around to other people's lunch boxes and trying to steal food out of them. The bad part is that he's cute and since he's half Japanese half American, his playmates' parents are absolutly fascinated with him and let him get away with it.
It amazes me how some babies/toddlers can eat so much. It seems to be convenient, though, from what she tells me. Have to get up at 3am to catch a flight? Just plunk the kid down at the table and put "breakfast" in front of him and he thinks it's morning and the world is alright.

HEY!:mad:
not that i think she should have laughed. falling out of a chair isnt funny and its especially not funny to do it every day (as i explained to my son)

but she should have recognized that it was intended as humor whether or not it was funny.

It amazes me how some babies/toddlers can eat so much. It seems to be convenient, though, from what she tells me. Have to get up at 3am to catch a flight? Just plunk the kid down at the table and put "breakfast" in front of him and he thinks it's morning and the world is alright.
Until you realize that you're cooking enough food for three or four adults and your family of two adults plus one toddler is consuming everything. :tongue:

My outlaws blended up food and spoon fed it to their children pretty much until age 11. Their kids ate solids, but that was still their main meal. This was the path they wanted my children on.

I think it's important to note that said outlaws' children are all obese. And won't eat anything but their mommy's cooking. Fuck. That.

... What are the supposed nutritional benefits of a childhood spent being spoon-fed mush? And what possible justification could they give for trying to interfere in how you raised your children?

I like "outlaws", heh.

Until you realize that you're cooking enough food for three or four adults and your family of two adults plus one toddler is consuming everything. :tongue:

My shitlings go through 8 L of milk a week. Easy two dozen eggs. Etc, etc etc. My eldest finishes dinner and promptly declares that she's hungry. I shudder to think what it's going to be like when they hit their teen years.

... What are the supposed nutritional benefits of a childhood spent being spoon-fed mush? And what possible justification could they give for trying to interfere in how you raised your children?

I like "outlaws", heh.

I have a friend who blends everything she eats, she says it "breaks down the amino acids" it's bullshit, but she believes it, she also doesn't cook/heat anything she eats either, just dumps it all raw and cold into the blender and drinks it.

She's a freak.

Also, when her kids come over I feed them s'mores and fried potatoes.

... What are the supposed nutritional benefits of a childhood spent being spoon-fed mush? And what possible justification could they give for trying to interfere in how you raised your children?

I like "outlaws", heh.

To be fair, the food is very healthy. Bean, lentil and soup dishes, good mixture of all food groups, just blended up into a goo. It's good stuff actually, just not something I'd want ALL THE TIME. The supposed nutritional benefits were...they can eat all the junk food they want as long as they get this essential meal in. It was a convenience thing I think though...they could shovel a lot of food into the kids in a very short period of time. Unfortunately, this caused the children to not know when they weren't hungry anymore because they didn't have time to feel that hunger abate before they were stuffed full. Hence them all turning into disgusting blobs.

My outlaws came at me through my ex who had a hate on for 'Canadian food'. You know. Whole wheat pasta/bread, a wide variety of meat/veggies/etc. Everything Chilean (Chilean according to them) was superior and mommy knows best. Not me. His mommy.

When we split up, one of his first comments was, "Now they're going to be eating your food." He said it like it was child abuse. (he meant Canadian food, he wasn't disparaging my cooking in that statement. No, he just did that as a matter of fact the rest of the time)

Also, when her kids come over I feed them s'mores and fried potatoes.

*wants to go to Auntie Smunkee's house! * :D

I don't care what my kids eat when they're at someone else's house. It's a 'treat' to eat somewhere else, and my kids have no allergies or health issues that would limit them.

Some parents with children as allergy free and healthy as mine get a little crazy when it comes to eating out. I can understand religious restrictions, and the above, but not just plain...anality. I just made that word up.

My outlaws came at me through my ex who had a hate on for 'Canadian food'. You know. Whole wheat pasta/bread, a wide variety of meat/veggies/etc. Everything Chilean (Chilean according to them) was superior and mommy knows best. Not me. His mommy.

When we split up, one of his first comments was, "Now they're going to be eating your food." He said it like it was child abuse. (he meant Canadian food, he wasn't disparaging my cooking in that statement. No, he just did that as a matter of fact the rest of the time)
That is SO not right. My wife and I have a split week where she cooks on the weekdays because I'm at school till after 5 and I cook on the weekends so my son gets a mix of Japanese foods and Western style. We both agree that each meal has to have at least 4 veggies and we're holding down the more intense flavores until he's a bit older. I'd be pissed if my wife suddenly declared that only Japanese cooking is good and any Western style food is bad (And vice versa).

I don't care what my kids eat when they're at someone else's house. It's a 'treat' to eat somewhere else, and my kids have no allergies or health issues that would limit them.

Some parents with children as allergy free and healthy as mine get a little crazy when it comes to eating out. I can understand religious restrictions, and the above, but not just plain...anality. I just made that word up.
Meh, when my son is older I'm all for that idea. Right now though we are keeping him off of chocolate and most sweets, mainly so he gets the idea of what healthy food tastes like and doesn't get locked into sweets only.

That is SO not right. My wife and I have a split week where she cooks on the weekdays because I'm at school till after 5 and I cook on the weekends so my son gets a mix of Japanese foods and Western style. We both agree that each meal has to have at least 4 veggies and we're holding down the more intense flavores until he's a bit older. I'd be pissed if my wife suddenly declared that only Japanese cooking is good and any Western style food is bad (And vice versa).
Don't wait too long, by the time they are 4 they are pretty set in what they will eat, sometime before then let them try some of just about everything (some seafood, some spicy things, some Kimchi)..... I have no source, just anecdotal experience. ;)

In between studying for my Corporation Law final tomorrow, I wish to engage in some parental style dick measuring.

You know how some parents let their kids taste alcoholic beverages so that the child will make an 'icky' face and decide that alcohol is disgusting? My 5 year old apparently has a taste for gin. Massive backfire. I didn't think I'd have to get a locked liquor cabinet until she was at least 10.

Measure away.
i used to love 'gaga' (or Lager to you and me) when i wuz a baby.... under 1.

probably explains a lot :p


and i have no kids, so no stories, but my cousin's 8 week old baby girl was adorable when i went to see them last week
oh and good luck :)

Meh, when my son is older I'm all for that idea. Right now though we are keeping him off of chocolate and most sweets, mainly so he gets the idea of what healthy food tastes like and doesn't get locked into sweets only.

Yes, I restrict their junk food intake pretty severely at home. If they come home hopped up on pop rocks and chocolate cake after being at a friend's house though, I'm not going to flip out. We talk about healthy food versus junk food a lot.

I like that my kids think pop/soda is bizarre and hate it.

My daughter of 4 loves Margarita's. If the wife is drinking one we have to keep it out of her reach. She got a taste once from mom's cup while on vacation once when she was about 1 and a half. After that she seeks it out. We got to watch that girl like a hawk.

My kids started yapping about Brats and Hanna Montana brand clothes/shoes at the beginning of the year. I have been chipping away at this foolishness, and they are starting to eschew requests for such foppery in favour of hippy wrap-around skirts and army pants. Hellz yeah.

My kids started yapping about Brats and Hanna Montana brand clothes/shoes at the beginning of the year. I have been chipping away at this foolishness, and they are starting to eschew requests for such foppery in favour of hippy wrap-around skirts and army pants. Hellz yeah.

You are raising some fine girls, Neesika. :wink:

Don't wait too long, by the time they are 4 they are pretty set in what they will eat, sometime before then let them try some of just about everything (some seafood, some spicy things, some Kimchi)..... I have no source, just anecdotal experience. ;)
Oh we're slowly getting more tastes and flavores. It's just that at age one, I don't think my son is capable of handling his father's four alarm fire chilie just yet. :p

Yes, I restrict their junk food intake pretty severely at home. If they come home hopped up on pop rocks and chocolate cake after being at a friend's house though, I'm not going to flip out. We talk about healthy food versus junk food a lot.

I like that my kids think pop/soda is bizarre and hate it.
Our doctor recomended that our son not be fed sweets in any great amounts until age 3, and I think that's a pretty good age to start. He does get some during special occations (A cookie at Christmas and birthday cakes and the like) but we're not allowing someone to give him a chocolate bar just because just yet.

Our doctor recomended that our son not be fed sweets in any great amounts until age 3, and I think that's a pretty good age to start. He does get some during special occations (A cookie at Christmas and birthday cakes and the like) but we're not allowing someone to give him a chocolate bar just because just yet.
My kids didn't have any refined sugar until 2. I think it was a great idea. They think asparagus is sweet. LOL.

Well, this week it's that my little dudes can tell i'm the other guy on the end of the phone even from across the room.
That, and one of them was in the tub the other day - he stood up, moved over to one side of the tub, took a leak, and then went back to sitting down on the other side, apparently only getting up to piss. No potty training.
That, and the other one said "I like that" the other day, and when i, understandably startled, asked him what he said, he repeated himself and smiled.
Not sure it's typical at 7 months, but oh well.

I have Nephew stories.

He once woke me up by drooling into my mouth. My mom put him on my bed. >.<

That is reason #259 Why I won't have Children.

LOL, no. My pet cat was like a son to me.

Stayed out all night, only came back to feed and sleep, always seemed up to something?

Don't have too many stories just yet, my son is only a year and a half right now.

That said he finally said his first word last weekend. Said word was oishii (おいしい), Japanese for yummy. Given that we've yet to find anything that this kid won't eat (He likes lemons, as in chewing on them) I have a feeling that the cost for feeding the beast is going to be rather high.

Smutto. Guaranteed to turn any stomach. *nods*

i'd rather swap nonparenting stories. vhem.

Smutto. Guaranteed to turn any stomach. *nods*
He likes Vegemite AND natto.

He likes Vegemite AND natto.

I like vegemite...

But smutto is nothing like either. But if you prefer, you could always try blue cheese or durians. Imports and a 50/50 chance he might actually like it, I know, but both items are very powerful dividers.

Or you could just go with shrimp paste prepared Malay style by mixing it with chilli peppers, minced garlic, shallot paste and sugar before frying. Very spicy.

Seriously? If so, source?

I use the following phrase with some hesitation but 'common sense' tells us that since you do not inhale the smoke of a cigar then you are not taking as much shit into your lungs and thus your blood.

My wife and I where maucking about/talking with our kids the other week, and she asked the youngest(13) how he see's he mum and dad, or how they would describe us to their friends.

His reply, mum is bad(she does not suffer fools) and dad is very weird. Strangely I feel kinda proud! :)

These are amusing to read because it's nice to know I wasn't the only terror child in the world. :) Sadly, I can't share any stories here yet.

Ah children. The reason I am immune to various bodily excretions being unexpectedly tossed my way.