NationStates Jolt Archive


Lawsuits!

United Dependencies
06-04-2009, 21:28
Ah yes lawsuits, the one thing that can cause stupid product labels and stupid rules. What are your opinions on all the rules that are created because of people being afraid of getting sued. Furthermore what should we do to decrease or eradicate all of these people suing for foolish reasons or for money?
Conserative Morality
06-04-2009, 21:29
*cue the Lawyers of NSG*
A man will fight harder for his interests than his rights.
You'll see what I mean in a moment...

As for my other 2 cents? Lawsuits nowadays are quite ridculous. For every good, and justified one you hear, you hear five that are unjustified, where the clients get screwed over by the lawyer, or that are just flat out stupid.
Galloism
06-04-2009, 21:30
We give them spankings in open court when they sue for stupid-ass reasons.

Do not stop chain with hands or genitals. - Swedish Chainsaw
Hammurab
06-04-2009, 21:30
Ah yes lawsuits, the one thing that can cause stupid product labels and stupid rules. What are your opinions on all the rules that are created because of people being afraid of getting sued. Furthermore what should we do to decrease or eradicate all of these people suing for foolish reasons or for money?

Tort reform is best handled after we've all seen the new Star Trek.

We'll know more then.
Trve
06-04-2009, 21:31
We give them spankings in open court when they sue for stupid-ass reasons.

I volunteer to preform this on any attractive females found guilty.

Its a sacrifice, but I am willing to do my part.
Sdaeriji
06-04-2009, 21:31
You know, other than the often-cited McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit, I don't think I've heard of a single one of these supposed absurd lawsuits that didn't turn out to be made up.
United Dependencies
06-04-2009, 21:34
You know, other than the often-cited McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit, I don't think I've heard of a single one of these supposed absurd lawsuits that didn't turn out to be made up.

What about the woman who sued because she set the cruise control in an rv gets up to make a sandwhich and then the rv crashes. Even if it is made up you have to admit that it is funny.
Sdaeriji
06-04-2009, 21:36
What about the woman who sued because she set the cruise control in an rv gets up to make a sandwhich and then the rv crashes. Even if it is made up you have to admit that it is funny.

Yeah they're all very humorous, but if none of them actually happened I don't see how frivilous lawsuits are a problem.
United Dependencies
06-04-2009, 21:40
What about all the stupid rules people will make out of fear of lawsuits. They've been threatining to end dodge ball in my school system for some time now. Not to mention were not allowed to bring food to a class party becuase if someone gets sick the school could get sued. Or a country club that got sued because a kid walked on to their primese past a fence and drowned in one of the club's ponds.
Conserative Morality
06-04-2009, 21:41
Yeah they're all very humorous, but if none of them actually happened I don't see how frivilous lawsuits are a problem.

Eh, can't find a good site at the moment, I'll keep looking, but here's one: Site may be trustworthy, still searching. (http://www.lawsuit.no/lawsuit.html)
Galloism
06-04-2009, 21:42
I volunteer to preform this on any attractive females found guilty.

Its a sacrifice, but I am willing to do my part.

Nah, we have to find a really fat ugly person to do the beatings, so it can in no way be sexual to the recipient.
[NS]Rolling squid
06-04-2009, 22:23
You know, other than the often-cited McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit, I don't think I've heard of a single one of these supposed absurd lawsuits that didn't turn out to be made up.

Well, the McDonalds case actually had some meat to it, as her argument was that the coffee was being brewed at a temperature deemed unsafe by government safety standards.

As for frivolous lawsuits, I can recall one case at the company I worked for where a coworker was walking around with an untied shoe, tripped and fell down a staircase, and filed workers comp.
United Dependencies
06-04-2009, 22:25
Rolling squid;14673754']Well, the McDonalds case actually had some meat to it, as her argument was that the coffee was being brewed at a temperature deemed unsafe by government safety standards.

As for frivolous lawsuits, I can recall one case at the company I worked for where a coworker was walking around with an untied shoe, tripped and fell down a staircase, and filed workers comp.

Ok we definitly know that stupid lawsuits exist. What is the best way to rid our selves of them? (seriously)
[NS]Rolling squid
06-04-2009, 22:29
Ok we definitly know that stupid lawsuits exist. What is the best way to rid our selves of them?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_squad)



(seriously)

Oh... Probably just competent Judges smart enough to recognize and dismiss them. Realizing that that is probably impossible, we probably can't, as any sort of penalty law carries the large potential for equal amounts of abuse as compensation laws.
Gravlen
07-04-2009, 03:36
Ah yes lawsuits, the one thing that can cause stupid product labels and stupid rules. What are your opinions on all the rules that are created because of people being afraid of getting sued. Furthermore what should we do to decrease or eradicate all of these people suing for foolish reasons or for money?
What rules are you thinking of?


As for my other 2 cents? Lawsuits nowadays are quite ridculous. For every good, and justified one you hear, you hear five that are unjustified, where the clients get screwed over by the lawyer, or that are just flat out stupid.
That's an awfully sweeping statement. Care to back it up with anything?

You know, other than the often-cited McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit, I don't think I've heard of a single one of these supposed absurd lawsuits that didn't turn out to be made up.

And the McDonalds lawsuit had real merit, so there goes that one as well.

Ok we definitly know that stupid lawsuits exist. What is the best way to rid our selves of them? (seriously)
Eliminate punitive damages. Sure, you'll open the legal system up for different kinds of problems, but that'll take a chunk of the "stupid lawsuits" out of the picture.

That said, however: Just how big of a problem is "stupid lawsuits" anyway?
Blouman Empire
07-04-2009, 03:54
You know, other than the often-cited McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit, I don't think I've heard of a single one of these supposed absurd lawsuits that didn't turn out to be made up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/25/AR2007042502763.html

This was pretty absurd.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-02-17-house-class-action_x.htm

If they weren't really a problem would congressbe wasting time with attempting to fix them?
Antilon
07-04-2009, 03:56
IIRC, my U.S. civil-criminal law teacher told me about a case where a burglar broke his leg (or some other part of his body) when he fell through second-floor verandah of the house he was burglarizing, then successfully sued the owners of the house. My teacher was a former NYPD officer, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Besides he's got some great stories, like the Mexican-Hat story...
The Infinite Dunes
07-04-2009, 10:05
Yeah they're all very humorous, but if none of them actually happened I don't see how frivilous lawsuits are a problem.Because they mean you have to wade though all sorts of pointless disclaimers and such. Like packaging on the salmon I bought the other day very informatively told me that my salmon may contain fish.
Gravlen
07-04-2009, 14:20
If they weren't really a problem would congressbe wasting time with attempting to fix them?
Thankfully, that never happens, because as we all know politicians are uncorruptable beings who only deal with real problems, are never influenced by lobbyists nor money, and never waste time on silly things.

Because they mean you have to wade though all sorts of pointless disclaimers and such. Like packaging on the salmon I bought the other day very informatively told me that my salmon may contain fish.

I'd like to see any connection between the frivilous lawsuits and the pointless disclaimers. Got anything handy?
Smunkeeville
07-04-2009, 14:32
Because they mean you have to wade though all sorts of pointless disclaimers and such. Like packaging on the salmon I bought the other day very informatively told me that my salmon may contain fish.

That's not a lawsuit thing, it's a food labeling law (misapplied). I'm partially responsible for the wheat one. I worked really hard to get it passed. The way it's supposed to work is if there is wheat in something that doesn't say wheat then at the end of the ingredients it should say there's wheat. The way it's applied is whether or not they declare wheat they put it on the end, which is fine with me and I assume with everyone else who gets very ill if they accidentally ingest something that might kill them.
Sdaeriji
07-04-2009, 14:41
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/25/AR2007042502763.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_v._Chung

He lost. Not only did he lose, he was sanctioned and was told to compensate the Chungs for court costs, though the Chungs withdrew that particular motion when they were compensated via charitable donations. On top of that, he lost his first, second, and third appeals, and his only remaining avenue for appeal is the US Supreme Court. In addition, because of this lawsuit, he lost his judgeship and is now presumably unemployed in the legal profession.
Kryozerkia
07-04-2009, 15:40
The biggest part of the problem with litigation is that litigation is made to look attractive and an easy solution to a problem. People are told about the payout and only see $$$ and not the big picture. Of course, there are the lawyers who will try and profit off the greed of these people.