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Civility in the classroom, in the community, in general.

Civility can be used as a sword or can be used as a helping hand:

Sword: "This conversation is making me uncomfortable" the civil thing to do is to change the conversation and thus that person has manipulated others to his own means by pushing a conversation away from the point where he wanted it.

Helping hand: it can make everyone work better together in groups and in the class room.

Another point: Teachers view students as disrespectful and belligerent by texting and iming during class
Students view teachers as disrespecting them by not caring about the student as a person with other classes and other needs. The teacher is being uncivil by not respecting the students need for a relatively sane and appropriate course load.

Opinions, questions, comments?

I've never seen any evidence that a person has been maimed, injured or killed by a puncture wound or slash from civility. Therefore your claim the civility is sword is under great scrutiny.

You know as well as I do that the "sword" is a literary device.

Please have something credible and intelligent next time you post.


I said that in a form of civility, because civility is also a cultural matter.

Civility can be a smokescreen to lull your victims into a false sense of security. :)

I challenge people to a duel when there are issues to prove my civility. If they decline they lose the argument, if they except I am a crack shot with pistols, that and I own the only functioning dueling pistol and the aim tends to pull to one side by a bit so they normally miss by a wide margin.

I challenge people to a duel when there are issues to prove my civility. If they decline they lose the argument, if they except I am a crack shot with pistols, that and I own the only functioning dueling pistol and the aim tends to pull to one side by a bit so they normally miss by a wide margin.

That's not how dueling works. You, being the offended party would issue the challenge, and the person you challenged would have pick of weapons. Both you and the person you challenged would appoint seconds, who would work out a time and place for the duel, and then you (the challenger) would name the conditions that the duel would end upon. If you challenge a person and they choose pistols, then you'd probably be good, if they didn't, methinks you'd be in a wee bit o trouble.

Rolling squid;14673049']That's not how dueling works. You, being the offended party would issue the challenge, and the person you challenged would have pick of weapons. Both you and the person you challenged would appoint seconds, who would work out a time and place for the duel, and then you (the challenger) would name the conditions that the duel would end upon. If you challenge a person and they choose pistols, then you'd probably be good, if they didn't, methinks you'd be in a wee bit o trouble.

Yes I am aware. I make certain to offer the dueling pistols as a suggestion and my invariable get picked as they are the only ones in the county I am aware of. that and I always issue the challenge within eye site of pictures of me in my Kendo and Fencing days. Pistols and my pistols specifically naturally become the weapon of choice.

Yes I am aware. I make certain to offer the dueling pistols as a suggestion and my invariable get picked as they are the only ones in the county I am aware of. that and I always issue the challenge within eye site of pictures of me in my Kendo and Fencing days. Pistols and my pistols specifically naturally become the weapon of choice.

Ah. Dirty underhanded tactics those are.

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Don't bother posting Grice's Maxims when you get around to that.

Rolling squid;14673122']Ah. Dirty underhanded tactics those are.

Not my fault i am the only one with functioning dueling pistols in town.

Though most of my Duels take place with pies for some reason.
Perhaps I should stop challenging LG to duels.

Not my fault i am the only one with functioning dueling pistols in town.

Though most of my Duels take place with pies for some reason.
Perhaps I should stop challenging LG to duels.

Nah. :D

Nah. :D

You swine I challenge you to a duel.
So Banana cream or coconut cream this time ?

You swine I challenge you to a duel.
So Banana cream or coconut cream this time ?

Blueberry. I'll meet you at the usual place.

Civility in the classroom, in the community, in general.Civility is a two way street.
Another point: Teachers view students as disrespectful and belligerent by texting and iming during class
I believe most Teachers View such activities as Disruptive, Distracting and Rude. not disrespectful or belligerent.

after all, the teacher is instructing the student. the student should be listening and not im'ing or texting.. heck, they shouldn't be talking unless it has something to do with the subject. Paying attention to the speaker is being civil.

Students view teachers as disrespecting them by not caring about the student as a person with other classes and other needs. if in Math, the student should be focusing on MATH. not Science, or PE, or History... if the student is NOT focusing on the subject they are in now. then they are being uncivil.
The teacher is being uncivil by not respecting the students need for a relatively sane and appropriate course load. ah, so it's all the teacher's fault. the students are not to blame nor are they being uncivil... Gotcha! ;)

Civility is like politeness. sure one person can be polite while the other rude. but the onus should not be on just one person (like how you focus only on the teachers in your op) but on everyone.

Civility in the classroom, in the community, in general.

I would civility, mutual respect and politeness.


Civility can be used as a sword or can be used as a helping hand:

Sword: "This conversation is making me uncomfortable" the civil thing to do is to change the conversation and thus that person has manipulated others to his own means by pushing a conversation away from the point where he wanted it.

Helping hand: it can make everyone work better together in groups and in the class room.


Sometimes we learn the most when we are encouraged to do things which make us uncomfortable. What would be the civil method of accomplishing this?

Helping hand = Team work to me. This is usually essential in any group project



Another point: Teachers view students as disrespectful and belligerent by texting and iming during class

Students view teachers as disrespecting them by not caring about the student as a person with other classes and other needs. The teacher is being uncivil by not respecting the students need for a relatively sane and appropriate course load.

Opinions, questions, comments?

To the first point is it that the student are being disrespectful or is it the teachers have failed in some cases to change with the time? At one time calculators were not allowed. At one time you had to use a typewriter not a computer to type your work. I never did understand that one. How many business people do you know with a Blackberry or palm and during the entire course of a conversation are completely preoccupied by what is on the screen. How many people bring a laptop to a meeting so they can knock out a few emails while they sort of listen to the meeting? Let's face we all multi-task why should students be punished for it?

Blueberry. I'll meet you at the usual place.

At the usual time with the usual person bringing the pies.

if in Math, the student should be focusing on MATH. not Science, or PE, or History... if the student is NOT focusing on the subject they are in now. then they are being uncivil.
ah, so it's all the teacher's fault. the students are not to blame nor are they being uncivil... Gotcha! ;)

Civility is like politeness. sure one person can be polite while the other rude. but the onus should not be on just one person (like how you focus only on the teachers in your op) but on everyone.

I believe in regards to this he may be talking about incidents when teachers set homework as though their class is the only one giving homework and sets something that will take a couple of hours to be done by the next day. A bunch of other teachers do this for their subjects and soon we have 5 lots of homework to do each taking 2 hours, and thus why he said "need for a relatively sane and appropriate course load."

This would happen to me and I got quite fed up with it, usually resulting in me saying screw it I will wing it in the lesson and go and play Civ3. Other things would be something along the lines of all 7 subjects setting all their assignment to be due within a few days of each other. Quite frustrating for someone in year 8.