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how much would you pay to marry someone for the sake of getting married?
id pay 5k to get married to anyone for a 2 year marriage

I wouldn't, period.

I wouldn't pay someone to get married to me.

I refuse to settle for less than $2,000,000.

It appears we have a secular Vanishing_shame. How interesting.

People do it all the time for monetary reasons. It's not always immigrants trying to get their card to stay in country. A lot of people do it for other reasons.

Nothing. Paying to marry is a bad idea in general.

Eh depends.

Why in the world would I pay someone JUST to get married?

Why in the world would I pay someone JUST to get married?

Do marriage licenses cost something? I don't even know. If they do, that's probably what I'd pay to get married at some point. :p

Do marriage licenses cost something? I don't even know. If they do, that's probably what I'd pay to get married at some point. :p

ok why would I pay someone to marry that person? :p

Ladies try to pay me to marry them all the time but I have to let them know that it's just my job, nothing personal.

When you get married, you pay every day. :tongue:

*runs out of range before wife sees this*

ok why would I pay someone to marry that person? :p

Hehe. I guess you could decide to interpret this otherwise totally baffling question as something like "how expensive a ring/wedding/reception would you pay for to impress your apparently somewhat gold-digging potential spouse?" Maybe? (Which is kind of a hilarious question in itself, still, for me, because if I really tried hard, I could probably scrounge up 3 or 4 cents and some pocket lint at the moment. Clearly my boyfriend is totally in this relationship for my money. :tongue: )

how much would you pay to divorce someone for the sake of getting divorced?
id pay 5k to get divorced to anyone for a 2 year divorce

My wedding (or, what I payed to get married) only cost a little over $2,000.

I'm glad she didn't want the big to-do... 'cause I wouldn't've been able to pay for it then! (and even still... a lot of tax rebate money went into that, and her parents payed for the dress).

I would pay like, a couple of hundred dollars to marry Jessica Alba.

When you get married, you pay every day. :tongue:

*runs out of range before wife sees this*

!

You're my hero.

But I better not let "the ol' battleaxe" see me agree with you. :tongue:

When you get married, you pay every day. :tongue:

*runs out of range before wife sees this*

You don't pay nearly enough.

ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!

*Dramatic Music*

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.JPG

Nope.

ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!

*Dramatic Music*

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.JPG

Up from a million, eh?

Wtf?

I'm a man. I'm supposed to get the dowry.

Id just spend it on a Hooker

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I wouldn't.

I'd pay for half the paperwork.

id pay 5k to get married to anyone for a 2 year marriage

Why?

!

You're my hero.

But I better not let "the ol' battleaxe" see me agree with you. :tongue:

haven't heard that term 'battle axe' in a while :tongue: .. my dad use to use that with a mention of 'combat boots' lol

how much would you pay to marry someone for the sake of getting married?
id pay 5k to get married to anyone for a 2 year marriageDeal!
*takes money*

Why in the world would I pay someone JUST to get married?
why indeed? i dont understand the question at all. why would i pay anyone to marry me?
and once i marry him, isnt his money mine again?

I wouldn't as I'm not sad and lonely (unlike somebody).

So paying someone else to marry me, or being paid to get married, not so much sense ... paying off a third party to get my brother married off, priceless.

I wouldn't pay a thing, period.

How good are they at sex if their good ill pay 5k!

What an odd question.

How good are they at sex if their good ill pay 5k!Deal!
*takes money*

Deal!
*takes money*

But you have to go to Ohio now...

*Shivers*

Depends on who, because it varies greatly with who.

When you get married, you pay every day. :tongue:

*runs out of range before wife sees this*
And sometimes by the hour. *nodds*

*Joins LG in running away from wives*

how much would you pay to marry someone for the sake of getting married?
id pay 5k to get married to anyone for a 2 year marriage

This sounds awfully like trying to put a price on longterm prostitution.

When you get married, you pay every day. :tongue:

*runs out of range before wife sees this*

Today at work, I told my boss that the last day of hockey season is the saddest day of my life. He paused, looked thoughtful, then looked me square in the eyes, sighed, and said "No. That will be your wedding day", and then walked off very dejected.

Does this include payment to matchmakers? Because it's a particularly thriving business in places like Singapore and Japan, where people from Vietnam, China and less well developed countries are imported as prospective brides.

But you have to go to Ohio now...

*Shivers*Meh, that's one state over.

Depends on who, because it varies greatly with who.

Wait...I take it back. I was confusing marriage with an actual relationship...so I change that to nil.

Wait...I take it back. I was confusing marriage with an actual relationship...so I change that to nil.

Ok, this just confused me. In the normal scope of things, marriage IS considered an actual relationship. I know this doesn't apply to those who pay to be married, for whatever reason, but marriage IS an actual relationship, in the modern sense. At least, to the best of my knowledge.

why indeed? i dont understand the question at all. why would i pay anyone to marry me?
and once i marry him, isnt his money mine again?

This sounds like a question for divorce lawyer man. Before DLM answers your questions he must announce to all that the OP is bizarro. "I would pay anybody $5k to marry them." Huhhhhhhhh????

At least in my jurisdiction, there are marital and non-marital property. Paying someone as a condition of marriage is one of those statute of frauds exceptions that everyone learns in lawschool. In the days of yore when the letter "f" pretended it was the letter "s", the English Statute of Frauds appeared on the scene. The SoF basically said that some contracts had to be in writing and one such contract is the type where marriage is agreed to in exchange for something else like money.

It seems wierd to pay someone to marry you but it apparently was important enough of an issue to be addreffed by the ftatute of fraudf. :rolleyes:

@Nanatsu: That's what it's considered but marriage is just a ritual.

@Nanatsu: That's what it's considered but marriage is just a ritual.

Wouldn't you consider marriage as the consumation of an actual relation?

It doesn't have to be. It's basically just the declaration that you and another have assumed a more "joined" status--but love or relationships aren't a part of it.

It doesn't have to be. It's basically just the declaration that you and another have assumed a more "joined" status--but love or relationships aren't a part of it.

Your views on the subject of marriage remind me of a book I read when I was a freshman in college for "Human Condition in Literature" class. If I remember the title, I'll give it to you.

I wouldn't pay someone to marry me. That's just weird.

@Nanatsu (again): Gratzi.

Gratzi.

IIRC, "The Psychology of Romantic Love", by Nathaniel Branden.

IIRC, "The Psychology of Romantic Love", by Nathaniel Branden.

I believed in romantic love, until I realized that it was created by poets without any connection to reality, and that it does not exist any more than flesh-and-blood counterparts to Greek statues.

You should read more by Akutagawa Ryūnosuke, Nan.

It doesn't have to be. It's basically just the declaration that you and another have assumed a more "joined" status--but love or relationships aren't a part of it.

Marriage, until relatively recently, was viewed merely as a financial contract. Now it is viewed as proof of commitment to a love.

I'd do it for a tenner, no to hell with it, i'll do it just for jollies.

I believed in romantic love, until I realized that it was created by poets without any connection to reality, and that it does not exist any more than flesh-and-blood counterparts to Greek statues.

I only enjoy Romanticism as a literature and artistic movement. Nothing else. I'm sure love exists, and lucky is the one who finds it and is reciprocated.

You should read more by Akutagawa Ryūnosuke, Nan.

Noted. Arigatou gozaimasu, Parkus-san.

I only enjoy Romanticism as a literature and artistic movement. Nothing else. I'm sure love exists, and lucky is the one who finds it and is reciprocated.

You sound like me, two years ago. When you find love, will you desert your keeper?

Noted. Arigatou gozaimasu, Parkus-san.

Read: An Enlightened Husband. It is about a man who comes back to Japan after studying in France, and becomes enthralled with the Romanticist ideas. He dresses European, redecorates his house in a European fashion, hangs a picture of Napoléon on his wall, and marries for love.

You sound like me, two years ago. When you find love, will you desert your keeper?

I stopped looking for love, Parky. I stopped looking for love a year ago or more. It's a useless search. Obedience suits me best now.

And my Keeper... that's a topic that, if it's to be discussed, I learned my lesson not to do it here.:wink:

Read: An Enlightened Husband. It is about a man who comes back to Japan after studying in France, and becomes enthralled with the Romanticist ideas. He dresses European, redecorates his house in a European fashion, hangs a picture of Napoléon on his wall, and marries for love.

That looks interesting. I'll be having a lot of spare time this week, maybe I can try and find that book.

I stopped looking for love, Parky. I stopped looking for love a year ago or more. It's a useless search. Obedience suits me best now.

When I realized it was pointless to search for love, my new meaning was quite the opposite of obedience: I started seeking to exert my influence upon the world as much humanly possible. If one tenth of the world fulfilled one tenth of its potential, we would love in a near-paradise. A single human life is the greatest, most powerful tool available on this earth.



That looks interesting. I'll be having a lot of spare time this week, maybe I can try and find that book.

It is actually a short story. You can find it in this collection: http://www.amazon.com/Mandarins-Stories-Ryunosuke-Akutagawa/dp/0977857603

When I realized it was pointless to search for love, my new meaning was quite the opposite of obedience: I started seeking to exert my influence upon the world as much humanly possible. If one tenth of the world fulfilled one tenth of its potential, we would love in a near-paradise. A single human life is the greatest, most powerful tool available on this earth.

Yes, like my Keeper, you are also an anacronysm. You do not belong to this day and age. Your aspirations ring of Antiquity.

It is actually a short story. You can find it in this collection: http://www.amazon.com/Mandarins-Stories-Ryunosuke-Akutagawa/dp/0977857603

Thanks for the link, I'll check it later.

When I realized it was pointless to search for love

Lighten up.

Lighten up.

Wake up.

Wake up.

Back off.

You have your own opinions on this, let NNLDI have his.

Back off.

You have your own opinions on this, let NNLDI have his.

I fail to see how saying "Wake up" is more critical of another's opinion than "Lighten up" is.

I fail to see how saying "Wake up" is more critical of another's opinion than "Lighten up" is.

Parkus, you are set in your convictions, right? You're quite rational, you come across that way on your arguments. I think you understood quite well what I meant.

Parkus, you are set in your convictions, right?

Not many of them, no.

You're quite rational, you come across that way on your arguments. I think you understood quite well what I meant.

He said "Lighten up", I responded with the equally obtuse "Wake up". I have acted no differently than he did.

Personally, I believe in the idea of romantic love, but I don't know how common it is. I seek it, but it's not my primary concern. My primary concern is helping the world as much as I can, similarly to Parkus.

Wake up.

Oh come on. You're acting all emo with you're "There is no love and people don't fill a tenth of their potential" bullshit. You need to cheer up mate.

Oh come on. You're acting all emo with you're "There is no love and people don't fill a tenth of their potential" bullshit. You need to cheer up mate.

He's sort of right, not of the "nil" idea, but as to the approximation of the amount of true, romantic love there is and people...

Parkus, you are set in your convictions, right? You're quite rational, you come across that way on your arguments. I think you understood quite well what I meant.

You talking about your "Keeper" reminds me of when we used to say "I am my brothers' keeper" while away in the sand. Of course that was a very true, strong, and real emotion that I still keep now. I was a keeper of all my my brothers (and sisters). I would gladly give up my life for any of them, but would rather have taken the life of those who tried to do them harm. I love the quote that "the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other man die for his." I thank the lord that he always allowed me to be one second faster than those that would do me harm. I pray for his mercy for the results of my speed.

To answer the OP, I'd never pay for marriage because like the Beatles said money can't buy you love. To me that's what marriage is. Of course it's a contract of legal ramifications. My convictions beg of me to see marriage as a blessed union of souls. There is no price tag that can be put on my life or my love.

Oh come on. You're acting all emo with you're "There is no love and people don't fill a tenth of their potential" bullshit. You need to cheer up mate.

My life is good, and I am happy. I still know that humans are petty creatures that only pretend they are concerned for each other because it makes them feel good. For instance, I am a vegetarian because I am against needlessly killing animals. I am still am disgusted with animal-rights activists claiming they are doing good so as to feel good, while they do nothing about humans who are starving and being tortured all over the world.

Personally, I believe in the idea of romantic love, but I don't know how common it is. I seek it, but it's not my primary concern. My primary concern is helping the world as much as I can, similarly to Parkus.

I once told someone we would live in a better world if everyone tried to leave the earth better than it was when he entered it. The response? "Where are you from, Teletubby Land?"

I still know that humans are petty creatures that only pretend they are concerned for each other because it makes them feel good.

Rubbish.

I still know that humans are petty creatures that only pretend they are concerned for each other because it makes them feel good.

:rolleyes:


Yes, because you know the true motives of all people, right.

Im with NNLD on this one.

Rubbish.

Really? I am betting you have done favors for friends. But how much have you done to stop starvation in Africa? How much money and time have you donated?

But how much have you done to stop starvation in Africa? How much money and time have you donated?

Not much. I give £4 a month to Oxfam, £2 to Wateraid and £2 to the Red Cross, and I regularly visit http://www.freerice.com/index.php, but you're right, not much. However that's not what I was disagreeing with. I was disagreeing with you stating that humans only do good things to make themselves feel good.

I believed in romantic love, until I realized that it was created by poets without any connection to reality, and that it does not exist any more than flesh-and-blood counterparts to Greek statues.

You should read more by Akutagawa Ryūnosuke, Nan.

It rather depends on what you mean by 'romantic love'.

If you mean by 'romantic love' what I would mean by it, I'd say you were very very wrong. But then again, I've met a few flesh and blood Aphrodites.

Not much. I give £4 a month to Oxfam, £2 to Wateraid and £2 to the Red Cross, and I regularly visit http://www.freerice.com/index.php, but you're right, not much. However that's not what I was disagreeing with. I was disagreeing with you stating that humans only do good things to make themselves feel good.

Correct; if there was no "warm, self-righteous feeling inside", no one would perform good deeds.

Really? I am betting you have done favors for friends. But how much have you done to stop starvation in Africa? How much money and time have you donated?

Because, of course, Africa is the only marker.

Really, did you forget your medications this morning?

I don't buy into the 'everyone is happyjoyjoy' image, but I also don't accept the 'people are all evil bastards' idea, either. I don't buy either of those extremes because I see evidence on a daily basis that both of them are flawed... and that there's a spectrum between two poles, where most of us live.

Correct; if there was no "warm, self-righteous feeling inside", no one would perform good deeds.

Which is horseshit. I've done extended periods of volunteer work because a local community needed it, for example. (And not even the community where I live). I didn't do it because it gave me 'warm, self-righteous feelings' - indeed, I readily admit that - like any other job - it sucked ass. I did it because it was needed, and I could do it.

You do wrong to judge the whole scope of humanity by your own limitations.

how much would you pay to marry someone for the sake of getting married?
id pay 5k to get married to anyone for a 2 year marriage

Done!

Do you like sudoku and flipping coins?

Because, of course, Africa is the only marker.

Of course not; it still more deserving than "friends".

Really, did you forget your medications this morning?

It is illegal for me to buy medicine through the normal marker, and to obtain such medicine via other methods is too costly.

I don't buy into the 'everyone is happyjoyjoy' image, but I also don't accept the 'people are all evil bastards' idea, either.

Humans are neither entirely good nor evil--but "evil" is human concept anyway.

I don't buy either of those extremes because I see evidence on a daily basis that both of them are flawed... and that there's a spectrum between two poles, where most of us live.

Many humans devotes 100% of their lives to themselves. Some devote 10% to others--some even 20%. It is a rare human who spends more than half his time helping others.

Which is horseshit. I've done extended periods of volunteer work because a local community needed it, for example. (And not even the community where I live). I didn't do it because it gave me 'warm, self-righteous feelings' - indeed, I readily admit that - like any other job - it sucked ass. I did it because it was needed, and I could do it.

You do wrong to judge the whole scope of humanity by your own limitations.

A study printed in The Economist showed that many humans unconsciously help others for sex appeal purposes.

But that is not the reason you performed volunteer work: Are you telling me you did not for a moment feel proud for helping, or that you would not have been bothered a bit if you did not help?

This sounds like a question for divorce lawyer man. Before DLM answers your questions he must announce to all that the OP is bizarro. "I would pay anybody $5k to marry them." Huhhhhhhhh????

At least in my jurisdiction, there are marital and non-marital property. Paying someone as a condition of marriage is one of those statute of frauds exceptions that everyone learns in lawschool. In the days of yore when the letter "f" pretended it was the letter "s", the English Statute of Frauds appeared on the scene. The SoF basically said that some contracts had to be in writing and one such contract is the type where marriage is agreed to in exchange for something else like money.

It seems wierd to pay someone to marry you but it apparently was important enough of an issue to be addreffed by the ftatute of fraudf. :rolleyes:
so the exception is because of dowries and the like eh?

if i understand what you mean by exceptions.....i really dont understand your answer (f/s notwithstanding)

but if i accept $5k to marry a man because he wants to establish legal residence in this country its illegal.

Of course not; it still more deserving than "friends".


How so?

Friends aren't deserving?

Or, by 'deserving', do you mean in greater need?

You don't have to go to Africa to find people in great need.


Humans are neither entirely good nor evil--but "evil" is human concept anyway.


Which is prevarication. You made a claim about the nature of humans, which was bullshit, and you got called on it. Quibbling about the wording impresses no one.


Many humans devotes 100% of their lives to themselves. Some devote 10% to others--some even 20%. It is a rare human who spends more than half his time helping others.

I think very FEW humans devote 100% of their time to themselves, actually - and I wonder if you honestly believe that, or if you just say it to satisfy some judgment you have made about yourself.

Most people have 'others' in their life that take up large proportions of their effort... family, friends, community.

But I don't see how this 'percentage' theory is helpful. Most people spend 33% of their entire lives asleep - but that doesn't mean we are DEFINED by it.

A study printed in The Economist showed that many humans unconsciously help others for sex appeal purposes.


This is me not giving even the slightest of a shit about the study that the Economist may or may not have done.

I'm sure some people do volunteer for the 'sex appeal'. I'm not sure how much sex appeal there is inherent in sending out bills, or taking calls, though - and those are just two of the things I've (personally) volunteered.

I'm an English guy in Georgia - the one thing I don't need, is more sex appeal.


But that is not the reason you performed volunteer work: Are you telling me you did not for a moment feel proud for helping, or that you would not have been bothered a bit if you did not help?

I volunteered because that's my world paradigm. There is no 'pride' in volunteer work done that I wouldn't have similarly got from non-volunteer work done. If the work needs to be done, and I'm available - and it doesn't conflict - why wouldn't I do it?

I volunteered because that's my world paradigm. There is no 'pride' in volunteer work done that I wouldn't have similarly got from non-volunteer work done. If the work needs to be done, and I'm available - and it doesn't conflict - why wouldn't I do it?

Because you said you did not enjoy it. There is a lot of work that needs to be done, and (hypothesis) you do some of it because if makes you feel like you are making a difference. If you truly just did things because they "needed to be done", you would spend nearly all of your life (outside of school, eating and sleeping) in volunteer work, like a machine.

Because you said you did not enjoy it. There is a lot of work that needs to be done, and (hypothesis) you do some of it because if makes you feel like you are making a difference. If you truly just did things because they "needed to be done", you would spend nearly all of your life (outside of school, eating and sleeping) in volunteer work, like a machine.

I didn't say I didn't enjoy it. If you're not going to be intellectually honest, you're wasting time for both of us.

I did say - like any other job - it sucked ass. When you're tired, you don't want to get up early. When you've already worked all day, you don't necessarily want to go do some more work. But you can still enjoy the job, just like any other job. Very few people are lucky enough to do work, paid OR unpaid, that has them doing the snoopy-dance 24/7.

I admit I don't do volunteer work 24/7 - but, like you said - there are reasons for that - and sleeping is a big one, as is (paid) work... raising children, other commitments.

Indeed, I very rarely do work (voluntary or otherwise) outside of a relatively small geographic area... simply for ease of access (I can't drive 8 hours to volunteer, AND sleep, AND do my paid work).

So... no I don't need to work like a machine. And I wouldn't, necessarily, even if I did 'need to', because I'm realistic about it.



You appear to be trying to create some kind of dichotomy - either you volunteer because it gets you off, or you're a soulless automaton. I suspect you want to create this image as a defence, to explain to yourself why it's okay for you to NOT get involved - but I don't think your paradigm applies to me... or to a lot of other people.

I didn't say I didn't enjoy it. If you're not going to be intellectually honest, you're wasting time for both of us.

Do you enjoy it?

Do you enjoy it?

Sometimes. Just like any other job.

Hell, even carrying bricks had it's upsides.

Sometimes. Just like any other job.

*nods*

Hell, even carrying bricks had it's upsides.


It depends upon what use one is making of the bricks.

It depends upon what use one is making of the bricks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvjL8w3Vi_Q

It depends upon what use one is making of the bricks.

I was referring to when I was labouring (when I actually did brickwork, someone else carried the bricks for me) - so... I made a pile of them :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvjL8w3Vi_Q

*is disappointed*

I'd at least hoped for something like this.

http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=508

You talking about your "Keeper" reminds me of when we used to say "I am my brothers' keeper" while away in the sand. Of course that was a very true, strong, and real emotion that I still keep now. I was a keeper of all my my brothers (and sisters). I would gladly give up my life for any of them, but would rather have taken the life of those who tried to do them harm. I love the quote that "the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other man die for his." I thank the lord that he always allowed me to be one second faster than those that would do me harm. I pray for his mercy for the results of my speed.

Yes, I always liked the sound of that, "Keeper". I guess that's why I gave the title to him. :p

pay? are you kidding? if it were a matter of choice i'd choose to live where no one ever had to live with anyone.

i mean staying togather is fine and love is fine.

but having to live with anyone because of the tyranny of people not being allowed to live full time in improvised shelter, or other cultural prejudices, and now someone should want me to PAY to buy into this?

i suppose when i was young and horny, if i'd also been rich, sure i suppose i would have given the concept serious consideration. but that's about the beginning and end of it.

i suppose when i was young and horny

Imagine the epic Cameroi chat up lines! :D

Imagine the epic Cameroi chat up lines! :D

serious pity they didn't exist in those days!

so the exception is because of dowries and the like eh?

if i understand what you mean by exceptions.....i really dont understand your answer (f/s notwithstanding)

but if i accept $5k to marry a man because he wants to establish legal residence in this country its illegal.

I am not sure about the dowries. I just do not know much about them.

The exceptions are to the general rule that verbal contracts are legally binding. The exceptions need to be reduced to writing.

I do not know about the legality of sham marriages to help with immigration. They seem fishy but I am not an immigration lawyer.

*nods*


It depends upon what use one is making of the bricks.

no, they also get strong and jacked, which then they won need the money because every sleazy girl and some proper girls will be at his beacon call.

no, they also get strong and jacked, which then they won need the money because every sleazy girl and some proper girls will be at his beacon call.

Is there another language that uses English words?

no, they also get strong and jacked, which then they won need the money because every sleazy girl and some proper girls will be at his beacon call.

I like you. :)

ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!

*Dramatic Music*

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.JPGIn Zimbabwe dollars?:tongue:

Yes, I always liked the sound of that, "Keeper". I guess that's why I gave the title to him. :p

You have perplexed me in ways since the days when you were gone for good and then reappeared. It's irritating only in the way that I can usually read a person down to their soul with great ease. Now this is made more difficult because I'm only analyzing you from writing, which is a useful tool. It also creeps out the people who work for me when I can tell any time they are lying. I also can tell when they are afraid, happy, hiding something out of shame, etc. I actually had one guy try to lie to me after I called him out on something he said about me that he never intended for me to hear. I asked him if he knew what I did in my former life in the military and he did not. When I explained to him I was an 02 advanced interrogator he stiffened up. I asked him if he wanted to restate the last answer to my question and he just gave me a look like "I'm fucked." And no, "military intelligence" is not oxymoronic like the jokers tell you. I just sense that something fractured in you from that point on. I'll end this now and welcome you yo TG if you'd prefer not to discuss things in public. Or I welcome you to say "no comment" and grant you the respect you are due to not push.

You have perplexed me in ways since the days when you were gone for good and then reappeared. It's irritating only in the way that I can usually read a person down to their soul with great ease. Now this is made more difficult because I'm only analyzing you from writing, which is a useful tool. It also creeps out the people who work for me when I can tell any time they are lying. I also can tell when they are afraid, happy, hiding something out of shame, etc. I actually had one guy try to lie to me after I called him out on something he said about me that he never intended for me to hear. I asked him if he knew what I did in my former life in the military and he did not. When I explained to him I was an 02 advanced interrogator he stiffened up. I asked him if he wanted to restate the last answer to my question and he just gave me a look like "I'm fucked." And no, "military intelligence" is not oxymoronic like the jokers tell you. I just sense that something fractured in you from that point on. I'll end this now and welcome you yo TG if you'd prefer not to discuss things in public. Or I welcome you to say "no comment" and grant you the respect you are due to not push.

I think you are cool. :D

I'm fucked.

how much would you pay to divorce someone for the sake of getting divorced?
id pay 5k to get divorced to anyone for a 2 year divorce

Thats the lamest rip off EVER!!!

Because, of course, Africa is the only marker.

Really, did you forget your medications this morning?

I don't buy into the 'everyone is happyjoyjoy' image, but I also don't accept the 'people are all evil bastards' idea, either. I don't buy either of those extremes because I see evidence on a daily basis that both of them are flawed... and that there's a spectrum between two poles, where most of us live.

Wait wait wait. Are you trying to tell me that human beings are three dimensional characters who can't be accurately defined by a binary system?

Say it ain't so, Jo--er, Grave.

how much would you pay to marry someone for the sake of getting married?

Nothing

You have perplexed me in ways since the days when you were gone for good and then reappeared. It's irritating only in the way that I can usually read a person down to their soul with great ease. Now this is made more difficult because I'm only analyzing you from writing, which is a useful tool. It also creeps out the people who work for me when I can tell any time they are lying. I also can tell when they are afraid, happy, hiding something out of shame, etc. *SNIP* I just sense that something fractured in you from that point on. I'll end this now and welcome you yo TG if you'd prefer not to discuss things in public. Or I welcome you to say "no comment" and grant you the respect you are due to not push.

Fractured, eh?
Creo que te debo uno o dos TGs al respecto, Liuzzo-sama. Hace mucho que no platicamos.:)

Nothing. If I ever have a wife, I want her to love me, not be a personal hooker.

I am not sure about the dowries. I just do not know much about them.

The exceptions are to the general rule that verbal contracts are legally binding. The exceptions need to be reduced to writing.

I do not know about the legality of sham marriages to help with immigration. They seem fishy but I am not an immigration lawyer.
ohhhh i see what you are getting at. since people make all sorts of promises in the heat of passion, or under the stress of maybe losing their beloved, only written contracts are binding in marriage. that makes good sense.

Fractured, eh?
Creo que te debo uno o dos TGs al respecto, Liuzzo-sama. Hace mucho que no platicamos.:)

Thank you oh gracious one. I returned your TG a little while ago.

Back on topic: I understand paying someone for marriage and citizenship. Anything else just seems to make zero sense to me.

Thank you oh gracious one. I returned your TG a little while ago.

Back on topic: I understand paying someone for marriage and citizenship. Anything else just seems to make zero sense to me.

TG returned.

TG returned.

Very well. I'll check it and be off to bed. Need to wake up early for work tomorrow. It's going to be a long, busy weekend.

why indeed? i dont understand the question at all. why would i pay anyone to marry me?
and once i marry him, isnt his money mine again?

Not anymore, I think proper ettiquette is moving towards a 'married people are still kinda single' direction. Which is odd, I know several married couples that have seperate money... which is confusing to me, my wife and I completely share our money (which is good, she makes more!)