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Love.

Melancholland
01-04-2009, 18:44
Love

What is it?
How does it feel?
Why does it happen?

Talk about love: anecdotes, opinions, facts...


Talk about love.
Pope Lando II
01-04-2009, 18:47
As I understand it, it's a sort of addiction to a person, caused by hormones, other chemicals and reinforcing self-talk. I would think it feels like any other addiction, though my experience with addiction is minimal. The "why" is the easy part - it's enjoyable for some people, at least in the short-run, along with the prodding from chemicals.
Ring of Isengard
01-04-2009, 18:52
Love

What is it?
How does it feel?
Why does it happen?

Talk about love: anecdotes, opinions, facts...


Talk about love.

Love is a mixture of chemicals in the brain. Thus it is not an emotion- it is a bodily process.
Brutland and Norden
01-04-2009, 18:54
Love is (one of) the most abused and misused words in the English language, it ought to be taken out of the dictionary.
Snafturi
01-04-2009, 18:56
Love is a scary, scary thing. As cynical as I can become, it just takes that one special person to melt the ice. I have a hard time saying the word, I really hate saying it. I guess because I know what it's like to be on the other side of the fence and have someone say "I love you" when I'm totally not feeling it.

Love is that nice feeling that lasts once the fireworks of the first part of the relationship go out.
Galloism
01-04-2009, 19:05
'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope... Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds. - HK-47
Lackadaisical2
01-04-2009, 19:05
*cues beat*
What is love?
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more...
Truly Blessed
01-04-2009, 19:08
Love is a strange

How does it feel? Good some times and bad at others.

Why does it happen? It happens just to mix things up. It happens to add a little chaos to the mix. You can't control it, you can't buy it, you can't wish it away, you can wish for it, but it doesn't mean it will come anytime soon.

When you do find you never know where it is going to go. Just when you think you have it all figured out it turns into something else.

You can't help who you love.

Even worse when that person does not love you. I think these lyrics some up my view.

LOVE STINKS
J. Geils Band

You love her
But she loves him
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win
And so it goes
Till the day you die
This thing they call love
It's gonna make you cry
I've had the blues
The reds and the pinks
One thing for sure

(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah

Two by two and side by side
Love's gonna find you yes it is
You just can't hide
You'll hear it call
Your heart will fall
Then love will fly
It's gonna soar
I don't care for any casanova thing
All I can say is
Love stinks

(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah

I've been through diamonds
I've been through minks
I've been through it all
Love stinks

(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
(Love stinks)
Love stinks yeah yeah
Pope Lando II
01-04-2009, 19:12
Why does it happen? It happens just to mix things up. It happens to add a little chaos to the mix. You can't control it, you can't buy it, you can't wish it away, you can wish for it, but it doesn't mean it will come anytime soon.


Not to quibble too much, but you certainly can control it. It might not be the typical practice, but you can condition your mind to do almost anything.
Saige Dragon
01-04-2009, 19:14
Love... is dumb, just like someone who wears a turtlenecks with suspenders.
No Names Left Damn It
01-04-2009, 19:17
Love... is dumb, just like someone who wears a turtlenecks with suspenders.

My mum said it looked good. Why would she lie to me?
Truly Blessed
01-04-2009, 19:18
Not to quibble too much, but you certainly can control it. It might not be the typical practice, but you can condition your mind to do almost anything.

You can ignore it but the feelings might not go away. Every time you see said person, bam there it is again.
The Free Priesthood
01-04-2009, 19:24
yeah let's quote every love song ever written why not what could possibly happen (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bette+midler/the+rose_20017078.html)
Pope Lando II
01-04-2009, 19:25
You can ignore it but the feelings might not go away. Every time you see said person, bam there it is again.

You can control whether or not you feel attraction to others. I should've been more clear. If you're already "in love" with someone, it might be very hard to control, I imagine, but you can eliminate (or, more appropriately, reinterpret) those signals.
Johnny B Goode
01-04-2009, 19:26
Love

What is it?
How does it feel?
Why does it happen?

Talk about love: anecdotes, opinions, facts...


Talk about love.

I really don't know, cause I haven't experienced it, although obsessive love is a bitch, and that I have experience with.
Saige Dragon
01-04-2009, 19:34
My mum said it looked good. Why would she lie to me?

Well obviously your mother loves you, in which case she is du... :eek:*


*I won't go there.
No Names Left Damn It
01-04-2009, 19:37
Well obviously your mother loves you, in which case she is du... :eek:*


*I won't go there.

I see what you did there.
Ring of Isengard
01-04-2009, 19:41
I see what you did there.

Very observant of you.
Anti-Social Darwinism
01-04-2009, 20:06
I don't believe in love - at least as it's put forth by today's popular culture. Cut away the whole romantic, sentimental foggy-brained nonsense and what do you have?
Saint Clair Island
01-04-2009, 20:17
'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope... Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds. - HK-47

Every time a thread like this comes up I want to quote that... and every time, someone else gets to it.

:(
Galloism
01-04-2009, 20:18
Every time a thread like this comes up I want to quote that... and every time, someone else gets to it.

:(

You must be faster, young one.
Iniika
01-04-2009, 20:24
My experience with love? It is the one thing that makes me feel truely alive, and at the same thing, the thing that feels as though it might completely destroy me.

As a word it is vastly over used, and the meaning and feeling of the actual emotion is often lost in societal baggage and expectation.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 00:59
"Do it to Julia!"




A more specific definition:

LOVE, n. A temporary insanity curable by marriage or by removal of the patient from the influences under which he incurred the disorder. This disease, like caries and many other ailments, is prevalent only among civilized races living under artificial conditions; barbarous nations breathing pure air and eating simple food enjoy immunity from its ravages. It is sometimes fatal, but more frequently to the physician than to the patient.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 01:24
Love... love... what is love? Love is a curse and a blessing. Love is dancing with Death. But I am done with it, even if I still feel it.
Soheran
02-04-2009, 01:26
What is it?

A deep-felt feeling of affection and intimacy for another person.

How does it feel?

Like being melted. Not that I know what being melted feels like.

Why does it happen?

Biology.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:26
Love... love... what is love? Love is a curse and a blessing. Love is dancing with Death. But I am done with it, even if I still feel it.

The best decision you will ever make.
Soheran
02-04-2009, 01:27
"Do it to Julia!"

That was not Orwell's point.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:28
That was not Orwell's point.

I know. :tongue:
Soheran
02-04-2009, 01:30
I know. :tongue:

And I'm not sure why you'd use it as an example. The idea of love as an act of defiance against the ultimate totalitarianism, love as the last obstacle that must be removed to totally brainwash someone, is actually a rather romantic depiction of it.

That's why 1984 is so horrifying.
Chumblywumbly
02-04-2009, 01:30
Love is a mixture of chemicals in the brain. Thus it is not an emotion- it is a bodily process.
All emotion has correlation with chemicals in the brain.



I don't believe in love - at least as it's put forth by today's popular culture. Cut away the whole romantic, sentimental foggy-brained nonsense and what do you have?
You mean, 'cut away the love from love and what do you have'?
Pope Lando II
02-04-2009, 01:33
A more specific definition:

LOVE, n. A temporary insanity curable by marriage or by removal of the patient from the influences under which he incurred the disorder. This disease, like caries and many other ailments, is prevalent only among civilized races living under artificial conditions; barbarous nations breathing pure air and eating simple food enjoy immunity from its ravages. It is sometimes fatal, but more frequently to the physician than to the patient.

Bierce is a perennial favorite.
Yootopia
02-04-2009, 01:34
It's pretty good, mostly.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:34
And I'm not sure why you'd use it as an example. The idea of love as an act of defiance against the ultimate totalitarianism, love as the last obstacle that must be removed to totally brainwash someone, is actually a rather romantic depiction of it.

I have used it before in love threads (to "/win" acclaim), and I will continue using it.

That's why 1984 is so horrifying.

I am not a Philistine--I know what the point is. But I believe sexual desire is one of the easiest ways to manipulate humans.
Philosophy and Hope
02-04-2009, 01:37
yeah let's quote every love song ever written why not what could possibly happen (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bette+midler/the+rose_20017078.html)

theres a lady whos sure all that glitters is gold....o wait was that sarcasm??
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 01:41
The best decision you will ever make.

It is a decision. Not the best, but still a decision. :wink:
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:44
It is a decision. Not the best, but still a decision. :wink:

What happened to your "Keeper"? Did you kill it?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 01:49
What happened to your "Keeper"? Did you kill it?

No, my Keeper is there, occupying all my thoughts and desires. But that... that Parkus-sama... is a topic I will only discuss if he so wishes. Love isn't necessary here.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:51
No, my Keeper is there, occupying all my thoughts and desires. But that... that Parkus-sama... is a topic I will only discuss if he so wishes. Love isn't necessary here.

Unless your Keeper is a cat, I must say that you have a seriously disturbing relationship. :eek:
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 01:52
Unless your Keeper is a cat, I must say that you have a seriously disturbing relationship. :eek:

Disturbing? :tongue:
Why would you say that?
Soheran
02-04-2009, 01:52
I have used it before in love threads (to "/win" acclaim), and I will continue using it.

That is not a justification, and you have never been one to maximize your approval level (not on NSG, anyway.)

But I believe sexual desire is one of the easiest ways to manipulate humans.

Perhaps, but love is not the same as sexual desire and is not as easily manipulated (though it can be just as irrational and destructive).
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:55
Disturbing? :tongue:
Why would you say that?

Someone who occupies all your thoughts, someone you do not love but will not leave, someone you are abnormally obedient to and call your Keeper...sounds like an oppressive parent.
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 01:56
Someone who occupies all your thoughts, someone you do not love but will not leave, someone you are abnormally obedient to and call your Keeper...sounds like an oppressive parent.

I'm afraid I must side with Parkus on this one. It does sound rather disturbing.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 01:56
Someone who occupies all your thoughts, someone you do not love but will not leave, someone you are abnormally obedient to and call your Keeper...sounds like an oppressive parent.

We all need, in our own way. We all feel, in our own way. That I feel this way (and I adore my Keeper, and he knows this) and I am content with it doesn't mean either him or me are disturbing. We profess things a different way.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 01:58
That is not a justification,

Justice is poppy-cock.

and you have never been one to maximize your approval level (not on NSG, anyway.)


Which is why I am not catering to you.

Perhaps, but love is not the same as sexual desire and is not as easily manipulated (though it can be just as irrational and destructive).

I doubt Winston would have "loved" Julia if she were not a physically attractive female. The story is more about the government controlling sexual-desire-love, than this poetical invention you speak of.
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 02:00
I doubt Winston would have "loved" Julia if she were not a physically attractive female. The story is more about the government controlling sexual-desire-love, than this poetical invention you speak of.

Indeed. The whole reason he got involved with her was because he wanted her but couldn't have her, or so he thought.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 02:02
We all need, in our own way. We all feel, in our own way. That I feel this way (and I adore my Keeper, and he knows this) and I am content with it doesn't mean either him or me are disturbing. We profess things a different way.

There nothing abnormal or disturbing about adoring someone--having one partner being totally obedient to another bothers me a bit. But since I probably have many psychological problems of my own, this might not be a subject I should profess my opinion about.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 02:05
There nothing abnormal or disturbing about adoring someone--having one partner being totally obedient to another bothers me a bit.

As I said, Parkus, everyone decides. This is what I decided and I am happy about it. I will not, however, stand and be insulted, by anyone (and I am not implying you did) who dares say BS about things they don't understand. This needs not be understood by anyone but him and me.

But since I probably have many psychological problems of my own, this might not be a subject I should profess my opinion about.

Wise choice, friend.
Galloism
02-04-2009, 02:05
There nothing abnormal or disturbing about adoring someone--having one partner being totally obedient to another bothers me a bit. But since I probably have many psychological problems of my own, this might not be a subject I should profess my opinion about.

Many different relationships have different parameters, but as long as all are consenting, there should be no problem with accepting them. As long as her keeper is not doing things to her that she does not consent to, then there is no harm - no foul.
Soheran
02-04-2009, 02:08
Which is why I am not catering to you.

I'm not asking you to cater to me. I'm asking you to bother to defend what you say with something more than the "/wins" of others.

I doubt Winston would have "loved" Julia if she were not a physically attractive female.

But did he love her because the Party wanted him to? No. Its plan, after all, was to eliminate sex and love for other human beings entirely.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 02:15
As I said, Parkus, everyone decides. This is what I decided and I am happy about it. I will not, however, stand and be insulted, by anyone (and I am not implying you did) who dares say BS about things they don't understand. This needs not be understood by anyone but him and me.

Happiness is all that matters.

Wise choice, friend.

That would be the fourth wise choice I have made in my life.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 02:17
I'm not asking you to cater to me. I'm asking you to bother to defend what you say with something more than the "/wins" of others.

What am I saying? Love is merely an emotion, which quickly loses to fear.

But did he love her because the Party wanted him to? No. Its plan, after all, was to eliminate sex and love for other human beings entirely.

I know; I read it.
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 02:18
That would be the fourth wise choice I have made in my life.

Fifth. I've kept track. Try not to fold your sheets over before you go to bed. I'm watching, and that annoys me to no end.:D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 02:19
Happiness is all that matters.

Exactly.

That would be the fourth wise choice I have made in my life.

So it seems.
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 02:20
Fifth. I've kept track. Try not to fold your sheets over before you go to bed. I'm watching, and that annoys me to no end.:D

You may have be using a more liberal definition of "wise" than I am. And my sheets do not like being spied upon.
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 02:21
And my sheets do not like being spied upon.

I wish... I wish my current sig was not so great, else I would sig this.
Galloism
02-04-2009, 02:22
I wish... I wish my current sig was not so great, else I would sig this.

Redo your sig like mine. You can hold a lot more.

I'm using size = 2, bold for the names.
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 02:23
Redo your sig like mine. You can hold a lot more.

I'm using size = 2, bold for the names.

I like the normal quotes better. Fancier, and provides a link to the place where it all went down. Since I change my sig quite often, I only worry about style, not 'How many epic quotes can I fit?':D
Galloism
02-04-2009, 02:25
I like the normal quotes better. Fancier, and provides a link to the place where it all went down. Since I change my sig quite often, I only worry about style, not 'How many epic quotes can I fit?':D

Well, you can always use the url tag to give a link to the location.
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 02:27
Well, you can always use the url tag to give a link to the location.
Like I said, I like the fancier style of the normal quotes.
Galloism
02-04-2009, 02:28
Like I said, I like the fancier style of the normal quotes.

Suit yourself. *wanders off to hunt Nanatsu's keeper*
SaintB
02-04-2009, 03:51
Love

What is it?
How does it feel?
Why does it happen?

Talk about love: anecdotes, opinions, facts...


Talk about love.

I pretty much forgotten what that one is.