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Israel's new ultra-nationalist foreign minister has said it is not bound by a US-sponsored 2007 agreement to reach a peace deal with the Palestinians.

"The Annapolis conference, it has no validity," Avigdor Lieberman said in his first speech since taking office.

He was speaking at a handover ceremony at the foreign ministry, prompting his predecessor Tzipi Livni to interrupt and diplomats to shift uncomfortably.

"There is one document that obligates us - and that's not the Annapolis conference, it has no validity," Mr Lieberman said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7977002.stm

Presumably the document he refers to isn't one written by the Dalai Llama or his new glossy page copy of "Watchmen" either.....

Of course this means that shares in CRH and Catterpillar will probably rise...Every colonisation has its silver lining and all that.

Obama stop giving Israel money. That is all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7977002.stm

Presumably the document he refers to isn't one written by the Dalai Llama or his new glossy page copy of "Watchmen" either.....

Of course this means that shares in CRH and Catterpillar will probably rise...Every colonisation has its silver lining and all that.

The document is definitely a new copy of the hit novel "Twilight". *nod*


But seriously, investing in Caterpillar would be a good call...what with the inevitable invasion and subsequent bulldozings which ensue...

Obama stop giving Israel money. That is all.


Obama isn't a dictator. He doesn't have the capability, something like that has to come from Congress. But I agree, giving Israel 80 billion dollars a year is a waste.

Obama stop giving Israel money. That is all.

Sever all ties with Israel. They're big boys, and they can take care of themselves right?

Obama isn't a dictator. He doesn't have the capability, something like that has to come from Congress. But I agree, giving Israel 80 billion dollars a year is a waste.

I agree.

Obama isn't a dictator. He doesn't have the capability, something like that has to come from Congress. But I agree, giving Israel 80 billion dollars a year is a waste.

Now thats not true. Look at how many friends its made the US and Israel....people are just killing themselves to say thanks....

Sever all ties with Israel. They're big boys, and they can take care of themselves right?

Yep.

Yep.

It's like two kids on the playground, 'cept Israel is the little fucker who's friends with the teacher.

Obama isn't a dictator. He doesn't have the capability, something like that has to come from Congress. But I agree, giving Israel 80 billion dollars a year is a waste.

more like 3 billion a year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/16/world/middleeast/16cnd-israel.html?_r=1&hp


30 billion over 10 years.

Foreign policy is one of the things the president has the most control over.

Now thats not true. Look at how many friends its made the US and Israel....people are just killing themselves to say thanks....


lol...thats what the CIA is for. To kill those people for them ;)


I mean, after all, for our dear radical Wahabi Muslim friends, its the least we can do.

Sever all ties with Israel. They're big boys, and they can take care of themselves right?

yep. And once we stop giving the Jews money I bet the Arabs give us more oil.

more like 3 billion a year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/16/world/middleeast/16cnd-israel.html?_r=1&hp


30 billion over 10 years.

Foreign policy is one of the things the president has the most control over.


We subsidize their government for three billion, yes. But that's only part of the eighty billion we give them. It isn't just monetary subsidy, but also in tangible assets such as weapons, training, and other military hardware that we give them.

And yes, the president has foreign policy control to a point, but treaties, and their termination, must be approved by congress.

It's like two kids on the playground, 'cept Israel is the little fucker who's friends with the teacher.

And the teacher is handing one kid a baseball bat and the other a water pistol.

And the teacher is handing one kid a baseball bat and the other a water pistol.


And the baseball bat isn't really a baseball bat...but rather a boomstick used to fend off sharks.

And the teacher is handing one kid a baseball bat and the other a water pistol.

That's not enough I say. The teacher should hand baseball bat kid a hand grenade, pin pre-pulled and already cooked for four seconds.

Or maybe a rabid badger.

That's not enough I say. The teacher should hand baseball bat kid a hand grenade, pin pre-pulled and already cooked for four seconds.

Or maybe a rabid badger.

Why not both? A rabid badger with a hand grenade taped to it's back. ;)

Why not both? A rabid badger with a hand grenade taped to it's back. ;)

Actually, I think I have a better idea. Give the friendless kid a water pistol, and the put in the hand of other kid a lit stick of dynamite covered with fast acting superglue.

1 in 4 Israelis approve of the choice of Lieberman for Foreign Minister...

You're a bunch of Nazis who hate Israel! Israel is defenseless and needs the US's help to blow up old men and wheelchairs and general persecution against teh ebil moslems!

1 in 4 Israelis approve of the choice of Lieberman for Foreign Minister...

Yet 4 out of 4 of them are essentially now represented internationally by the shite. Mind you, he's only actually saying what hes thinking, as oppossed to the usual 'platitudes and bulldozers' approach.

Damn, the next few years are going to be tough for me on NS.

I do have a good reason why the US shouldn't cut all funding to Israel immediately - we do that, Israel might stop supplying us with 90% of our intelligence in the Middle East.

Instead, the US should try to work more subtly - threaten to cut the amount of money sent.

Another idea would be to deliberately ignore Lieberman as much as possible. Obama should try to deal with Netanyahu directly. If the US snubs Lieberman a few times, it might lead Netanyahu to find someone else for the job.

My hope is that this coalition falls apart after a year, forcing new elections.

My hope is that this coalition falls apart after a year, forcing new elections.
How would that solve anything? There are elections there seemingly every 18-24 months.

How would that solve anything? There are elections there seemingly every 18-24 months.

Well, a new election might put the moderates back in power.

Actually, I think I have a better idea. Give the friendless kid a water pistol, and the put in the hand of other kid a lit stick of dynamite covered with fast acting superglue.

This would have to be filmed, of course. :p

I do have a good reason why the US shouldn't cut all funding to Israel immediately - we do that, Israel might stop supplying us with 90% of our intelligence in the Middle East.
I think we're rich enough to make up the difference, not that there's all that much we need to know.

"Aye some people are vaguely plotting against you, great satan etc. etc."
"Yeah anything which poses a genuine risk to our way of life?"
"No"
"Yeah ciao then"
":("
Another idea would be to deliberately ignore Lieberman as much as possible. Obama should try to deal with Netanyahu directly. If the US snubs Lieberman a few times, it might lead Netanyahu to find someone else for the job.
Bebe is a dickhead too.
My hope is that this coalition falls apart after a year, forcing new elections.
Yeah, and then you just get another set of results like these, because the general public is kind of split on what to do, and since Sharon's been out of the picture there's been no leader figure to rally around. The President was until recently a sex criminal who wouldn't step down because then he'd have to go on trial. Bebe and Olmert are pretty unloveable chaps, after all.

Well, a new election might put the moderates back in power.

Was any progress made while they were in power?

Was any progress made while they were in power?

No, but Olmert was a corrupt bastard. Livni could actually get stuff done.

We subsidize their government for three billion, yes. But that's only part of the eighty billion we give them. It isn't just monetary subsidy, but also in tangible assets such as weapons, training, and other military hardware that we give them.

And yes, the president has foreign policy control to a point, but treaties, and their termination, must be approved by congress.

The 3 billion is only for the military Bush cut the government/economic funding already. Before the cut we were giving closer to 4 billion total.

No, but Olmert was a corrupt bastard. Livni could actually get stuff done.

Yeah. Like participating in possible war crimes, she got that done alright.

Interesting development on that front... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7981538.stm)