NationStates Jolt Archive


Royalty.

The Parkus Empire
01-04-2009, 01:18
What are your royal relations?
Trve
01-04-2009, 01:20
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_II_of_Sicily

And I may be distantly related to the Hapsburgs.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
01-04-2009, 01:20
None that I can trace far back. The Catalonian part of my family claims ties to royalty, but I haven't seen any documents attesting to this.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:24
My 16th-great-grandfather was King James I of Scotland. Through both he and his wife, Joan Beaufort, granddaughter of the oh-so-horny John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, I could, barring Salic succession, claim most anything between Porto and Pyongyang.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:25
None that I can trace far back. The Catalonian part of my family claims ties to royalty, but I haven't seen any documents attesting to this.

Since I married you to milks empire your now queen of Spain.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:27
Since I married you to milks empire your now queen of Spain.

For the last time, I am not staging any kind of coup against Rey Juan Carlos, a man for whom I hold much respect! :mad:
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:28
For the last time, I am not staging any kind of coup against Rey Juan Carlos, a man for whom I hold much respect! :mad:

It is not a coup divine providence has simply appointed you and removed him.
Following the will of God is never a coup.
Yootopia
01-04-2009, 01:28
I am the Queen's Mother (may be false).
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:29
It is not a coup divine providence has simply appointed you and removed him.
Following the will of God is never a coup.

:soap: ¿Porqué no te callas? :mad:
Sarkhaan
01-04-2009, 01:29
There was a study a few years back that said about 90% of the world population could trace their blood back to royalty at some point.

That said, I'm related to PT Barnum, of Barnum and Bailey's circus fame
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 01:31
What are your royal relations?

Prussian
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:32
Prussian

Any relation to Kaiser Wilhelm II?
Lapse
01-04-2009, 01:33
I am the descendant of a bunch of convicts...

so no royal relations...
Yootopia
01-04-2009, 01:34
I am the descendant of a bunch of convicts...

so no royal relations...
I'd replace 'so no' with 'despite this' :D
Neo-Erusea
01-04-2009, 01:35
I have nobility that traces back to Tuscany, Italy.

No idea about royalty though.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:35
:soap: ¿Porqué no te callas? :mad:

Don't worry it will be a peaceful exchange of power. There are these military guys in Spain waiting to back you. They promise not to Kill Carlos or his family and are planning to send him in Exile to Mexico, where I will make him king there. Now go to your new wife and take up the throne so rightfully yours.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:36
I have nobility that traces back to Tuscany, Italy.

No idea about royalty though.

What time period are we talking?
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:36
Don't worry it will be a peaceful exchange of power. There are these military guys in Spain waiting to back you. They promise not to Kill Carlos or his family and are planning to send him in Exile to Mexico, where I will make him king there. Now go to your new wife and take up the throne so rightfully yours.

You don't know Spanish, do you?
Ledgersia
01-04-2009, 01:36
No royal relations here, but I am (very distantly) related to Mary Todd Lincoln.
Yootopia
01-04-2009, 01:37
You don't know Spanish, do you?
I'm sure he knows exactly what you're on about, although I'm pretty sure in the original it was 'por no' rather than 'porqué no'.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:38
No royal relations here, but I am (very distantly) related to Mary Todd Lincoln.

Her predecessor as First Lady was my second cousin 5 times removed, and the niece of my first cousin 6 times removed.
Rhursbourg
01-04-2009, 01:38
William the Lion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Lion)
Eleanor of Acquitaine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Acquitaine)
Isabella of Castile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_Castile,_Duchess_of_York)
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:38
I'm sure he knows exactly what you're on about, although I'm pretty sure in the original it was 'por no' rather than 'porqué no'.

Don't tell that to the King of Spain! :D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
01-04-2009, 01:39
Since I married you to milks empire your now queen of Spain.

What what? Married to Milks Empire? How did this happened? Are you Queen Isabel II and I am Infanta Maria Eulalia for this to happen? No me jodas.:eek2:
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 01:40
What what? Married to Milks Empire? How did this happened? Are you Queen Isabel II and I am Infanta Maria Eulalia for this to happen? No me jodas.:eek2:

Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't like you like that! :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
01-04-2009, 01:41
Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't like you like that! :p

Oh my, neither do I. I have a Keeper and I am happy that way. :D
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:41
You don't know Spanish, do you?

basically you told me to shut up. But I am the son of god and brush it aside because your small human mind cant understand what i have planned for you.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:42
Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't like you like that! :p

Oh my, neither do I. I have a Keeper and I am happy that way. :D

Husband and wife should not talk like that. Now get to getting it on.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
01-04-2009, 01:42
basically you told me to shut up. But I am the son of god and brush it aside because your small human mind cant understand what i have planned for you.

Ah, I see. You've been drinking the bong water again. Heh! I told you not to do that, Greedy.:fluffle:
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 01:43
Any relation to Kaiser Wilhelm II?

Last king of Prussia I am sure.


On a side note the wife is a card carrying member of the Moroccan royal family. She actually has a card that says so. Whenever there is trouble she whips the card out. It's basically a free pass. She is related to Moulay Idriss.


Edit:

Moulay Idriss is a direct descendant of The Prophet Muhammed.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:43
Ah, I see. You've been drinking the bong water again. Heh! I told you not to do that, Greedy.:fluffle:

Just the first time i've had alcohol in about 2 weeks.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:44
On a serious note i am related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B8rgen_J%C3%BCrgensen who was king of Iceland for 100 days.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
01-04-2009, 01:44
Just the first time i've had alcohol in about 2 weeks.

What is that alcohol spiked with, ecstasy? :eek:
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:46
What is that alcohol spiked with, ecstasy? :eek:

no no no. Last time I took X i asked to see a certain part of you. And you got very angry with me over it.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
01-04-2009, 01:50
no no no. Last time I took X i asked to see a certain part of you. And you got very angry with me over it.

Ay, pero vamos de Guatemala a Guatapeor.:$

I think you're hallucinating again, Greed. And badly at that.
Anti-Social Darwinism
01-04-2009, 01:57
Let's see ...

My ex-husband is a royal pain in the ass,
My preferred tea company has an appointment to Her Majesty the Queen,
My father had royal ambitions.

Do those count?

I'm sure that, somewhere in the past, there's a royal bastard or two. If you go back far enough, we'll all find a jumped up peasant who called himself a king and made it stick. If we go in the future far enough, there'll be another jumped up peasant who'll call himself a king and make it stick.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 01:57
Ay, pero vamos de Guatemala a Guatapeor.:$

I think you're hallucinating again, Greed. And badly at that.

no no I remember asking to see your breast and you getting very upset with me very clearly. Thats why i swore off the X for at least 6 months.
Lord Tothe
01-04-2009, 02:03
None known. of course, teh interwebz provide quite a supply of coats of arms for my surname, but that means nothing.
Pope Lando II
01-04-2009, 02:06
As a direct descendent of Pope Lando I (913-914), heir to the throne of St. Peter, I'm also a direct descendent of St. Peter and therefore of God. Pretty cool, huh?
Trve
01-04-2009, 02:10
As a direct descendent of Pope Lando I (913-914), heir to the throne of St. Peter, I'm also a direct descendent of St. Peter and therefore of God. Pretty cool, huh?

Why am I skeptical of a Pope having a "direct descendent"? :p
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 02:10
As a direct descendent of Pope Lando I (913-914), heir to the throne of St. Peter, I'm also a direct descendent of St. Peter and therefore of God. Pretty cool, huh?

Use your magical powers and fix the economy then.
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 02:11
Why am I skeptical of a Pope having a "direct descendent"? :p

Read up on the history of the early popes. They had relations.... :tongue:
greed and death
01-04-2009, 02:12
Use your magical powers and fix the economy then.

not until the US bans abortion.
Trve
01-04-2009, 02:12
Read up on the history of the early popes. They had relations.... :tongue:

Ah yes, I just noticed the time period he mentioned. My mistake.
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 02:15
not until the US bans abortion.

What? I didn't realize you were appointed the spokesman for GOD?! :eek:
greed and death
01-04-2009, 02:18
What? I didn't realize you were appointed the spokesman for GOD?! :eek:

Yes I am. Haven't I mentioned in other threads that I am the son of God.
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 02:18
Yes I am. Haven't I mentioned in other threads that I am the son of God.

Hmmm... I thought we were all God's children.
Yootopia
01-04-2009, 02:19
Oh aye in actuality I just remembered a vaguely royal collection - way back in my family's history, Sir William Brereton managed to get himself killed basically because Henry VIII wanted Ann Boleyn out of the way - she dropped her handkerchief at a jousting tournament where he was present, and good old Will got off his horse and gave it back to her. He (and then she) then got charged with High Treason. Ah well.
Poliwanacraca
01-04-2009, 02:19
None, as far as I know. I don't know anything about my ancestry beyond a few generations back.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 02:20
Hmmm... I thought we were all God's children.

descendants.... and yes that means I am your real daddy.
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 02:21
descendants.... and yes that means I am your real daddy.

You owe my mama back child support you bastard!
Chumblywumbly
01-04-2009, 02:25
My 16th-great-grandfather was King James I of Scotland.
You and half of the US, mate.

Genealogists are making a killing.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 02:33
Last king of Prussia I am sure.


On a side note the wife is a card carrying member of the Moroccan royal family. She actually has a card that says so. Whenever there is trouble she whips the card out. It's basically a free pass. She is related to Moulay Idriss.


Edit:

Moulay Idriss is a direct descendant of The Prophet Muhammed.

From what I've read, some Moorish princess descended from the Prophet (pbuh) converted to Catholicism and married into a family whose descendants married into some European royal family (I forget exactly which) and wound up being an ancestress of Joan Beaufort, Queen Consort of Scotland. If this is true, I'm distantly related to Mrs. Marrakech II. :D
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 02:57
From what I've read, some Moorish princess descended from the Prophet (pbuh) converted to Catholicism and married into a family whose descendants married into some European royal family (I forget exactly which) and wound up being an ancestress of Joan Beaufort, Queen Consort of Scotland. If this is true, I'm distantly related to Mrs. Marrakech II. :D

Interesting. Just goes to prove we are all related in some form.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:05
Yes I am. Haven't I mentioned in other threads that I am the son of God.

Das ist nicht toll, mein Herr.
Tiesa
01-04-2009, 03:16
I'm not from any royalty that I know of, but I am some sort of decendent of 2nd President John Adams.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:20
I'm not from any royalty that I know of, but I am some sort of decendent of 2nd President John Adams.

We're related! His wife Abigail, and by extension his descendants, were descendants of the eternally horny John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster. So yes, you are royal! :)
Kanabia
01-04-2009, 03:28
I suspect my ancestors were all peasants.
Ledgersia
01-04-2009, 03:30
I suspect my ancestors were all peasants.

Kanabia! :eek:
Kanabia
01-04-2009, 03:31
Kanabia! :eek:

Who are you and what have you done with my hat?!?
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:31
I suspect my ancestors were all peasants.

Congratulations! You work for me now! :p
(I'm about as serious about that as I am about just having seen a winged cat outside my window.)
Ledgersia
01-04-2009, 03:33
Who are you and what have you done with my hat?!?

I ate it. Check TGs.
Kanabia
01-04-2009, 03:35
Congratulations! You work for me now! :p
(I'm about as serious about that as I am about just having seen a winged cat outside my window.)

Lawl. Well, I have no way of verifying it, since my ancestors are from all over the place - Ireland, England, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Prussia, etc, etc. So, you could deserve to bow down to me. :)
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 03:41
I am descended from humanity's one true king.
New Manvir
01-04-2009, 03:43
Since I married you to milks empire your now queen of Spain.

Can I be Pope, and hold the awesome power of excommunication?
greed and death
01-04-2009, 03:44
Can I be Pope, and hold the awesome power of excommunication?

So long as you agree to legalize abortion, Gay marriage and let priest marry Done.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:45
I am descended from humanity's one true king.

And that would be? :confused:
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 03:45
Lawl. Well, I have no way of verifying it, since my ancestors are from all over the place - Ireland, England, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Prussia, etc, etc. So, you could deserve to bow down to me. :)Since my ancestors legally owned some serfs, I suspect they were some sort of Baltic Scandinavian who lived in the Russian Empire where serfs where actual property, perhaps I have a joke.:p But, serfs have no rights so no jokes for you peasant.:wink:
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:50
Lawl. Well, I have no way of verifying it, since my ancestors are from all over the place - Ireland, England, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Prussia, etc, etc. So, you could deserve to bow down to me. :)

For me: Germany, England, Ireland, France by way of Canada, Scotland by way of Ireland, Italy, present-day eastern New York, Wales, Cornwall, France, Navarre, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Hungary, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Greece, Armenia, Morocco, Syria, Iraq, Korea, China, Palestine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, India, Iran, Mongolia, and Egypt, as far as I know.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:52
Since my ancestors legally owned some serfs, I suspect they were some sort of Baltic Scandinavian who lived in the Russian Empire where serfs where actual property, perhaps I have a joke.:p But, serfs have no rights so no jokes for you peasant.:wink:

Here's the sucky part for you: Going by that, I outrank you as a descendant of Rurik. No jokes for you! :p
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 03:53
And that would be? :confused:You know who it is? Or are you a heretic to his, and my, eternal glory?
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 03:53
You know who it is? Or are you a heretic to his, and my, eternal glory?

If I knew, would I have asked?
New Manvir
01-04-2009, 03:57
So long as you agree to legalize abortion, Gay marriage and let priest marry Done.

Absolutely.

*waits to get drunk on power*
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 03:58
Here's the sucky part for you: Going by that, I outrank you as a descendant of Rurik. No jokes for you! :pMy family is related to Harald III of Norway (Harald Hardrada) and a number of other old kings of Norway.
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 03:59
If I knew, would I have asked?The answer to both questions is that you are a heretic who must be burned.

*Releases the Spanish Inquisition*
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:02
The answer to both questions is that you are a heretic who must be burned.

*Releases the Spanish Inquisition*

*directs the Spanish Inquisition back at The Scandinavians*
Sorry, but you're dealing with someone who is also a Spanish royal himself. Can't torch the King's cousin! :D
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:03
My family is related to Harald III of Norway (Harald Hardrada) and a number of other old kings of Norway.

My ancestor Harold Godwinson kicked your ancestor's ass at Stamford Bridge! And the got his ass kicked by my other ancestor William the Conqueror at Hastings. History is weird. Massively intriguing, but weird.
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:04
*directs the Spanish Inquisition back at The Scandinavians*
Sorry, but you're dealing with someone who is also a Spanish royal himself. Can't torch the King's cousin! :DReally you are a member of the House of Bourbon?

*Summons a Viking horde.*
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:06
My ancestor Harold Godwinson kicked your ancestor's ass at Stamford Bridge! And the got his ass kicked by my other ancestor William the Conqueror at Hastings. History is weird. Massively intriguing, but weird.Specially because my family claims descent from Erik the Red, who was a purported ancestor of William the Conqueror.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:07
Really you are a member of the House of Bourbon?

*Summons a Viking horde.*

House of Capet. The parent house of the House of Bourbon. Technically not in the male line, but they're back there.
*prays to James, Joan of Arc, St. Louis IX, and St. Remigus to deliver Spain and France from the Viking hordes*
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:10
Specially because my family claims descent from Erik the Red, who was a purported ancestor of William the Conqueror.

Done the research on King William. The numbers don't fit for that to be possible.
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:10
House of Capet. The parent house of the House of Bourbon. Technically not in the male line, but they're there.Yet, according to succession lines you have no claims to any Bourbon titles and a Capet never sat on the throne of Spain. So you is not a close relative to the King of Spain.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:13
Yet, according to succession lines you have no claims to any Bourbon titles and a Capet never sat on the throne of Spain. So you is not a close relative to the King of Spain.

A Capet is sitting on the Spanish throne right now! His name is Juan Carlos. And besides, Salic Law is just what the nobles in the south of France pulled to keep Edward III of England off the throne.

And of course I have no Capetian/Valois/Bourbon titles. I would likely have been stripped of any I could have had during the Hundred Years' War. Something about descent from Edward III, you know?
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:13
Done the research on King William. The numbers don't fit for that to be possible.You are right, but I never did say the claim was true did I?

I only stated that my family liked to claim it. Because know that we lost our tittles and land, some of the reasons why we came to America, we place a huge amount of pride on blood.:hail: Yet, that is all we really have, that and a prosperous family enterprise that ensures a good life for me.:p
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:16
You are right, but I never did say the claim was true did I?

I only stated that my family liked to claim it. Because know that we lost our tittles and land, some of the reasons why we came to America, we place a huge amount of pride on blood.:hail: Yet, that is all we really have, that and a prosperous family enterprise that ensures a good life for me.:p

I mean the descent from Erik the Red to William the Conqueror.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 04:16
Specially because my family claims descent from Erik the Red, who was a purported ancestor of William the Conqueror.

wasn't he banished and disowned for killing people ?
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:17
A Capet is sitting on the Spanish throne right now! His name is Juan Carlos. And besides, Salic Law is just what the nobles in the south of France pulled to keep Edward III of England off the throne.He is a member of the House of Bourbon.

Though of course depending on what inheritance laws your family follows things vary. As Juan Carlos I does have Capet blood in him.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Arbol-borbon.gif
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:17
wasn't he banished and disowned for killing people ?

That's what I read.
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:18
wasn't he banished and disowned for killing people ?Yep, it is suspected he was even guilty of kin slaying.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:19
He is a member of the House of Bourbon.

Though of course depending on what inheritance laws your family follows things vary. As Juan Carlos I does have Capet blood in him.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Arbol-borbon.gif

The only difference between the House of Bourbon and the House of Capet is which one of Louis IX's sons they came from in the male line.
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:20
I mean the descent from Erik the Red to William the Conqueror.Sorry, my statement was not clear, I mean my family claims William the Conqueror was indeed a descendant of Erik the Red. Despite there being absolutely no respectable historical record to prove the claim.
The Scandinvans
01-04-2009, 04:22
The only difference between the House of Bourbon and the House of Capet is which one of Louis IX's sons they came from in the male line.Still they are separate houses entirely due to the many generations that divide them, though of course with the old European tradition of marrying their own cousins that can be disputed.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 04:24
Yep, it is suspected he was even guilty of kin slaying.

so even if he was from William the conquer's line he was disowned.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:25
Sorry, my statement was not clear, I mean my family claims William the Conqueror was indeed a descendant of Erik the Red. Despite there being absolutely no respectable historical record to prove the claim.

I suppose it could work if Erik had a daughter who married the tanner Herbert whose daughter William's father slept with. But the only child I know of that he had was Leif.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:26
so even if he was from William the conquer's line he was disowned.

You do know that Erik the Red did his thing about 65 years before William the Conqueror, right?
greed and death
01-04-2009, 04:27
You do know that Erik the Red did his thing about 65 years before William the Conqueror, right?

didn't read his clarification.
Skallvia
01-04-2009, 04:58
As far as I can tell, we've always been dirt poor, :(
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 04:59
As far as I can tell, we've always been dirt poor, :(

If there was any money left from the royal treasury, my grandfather drank it all away.
Marrakech II
01-04-2009, 05:30
If there was any money left from the royal treasury, my grandfather drank it all away.

Let me guess he was drinking "Crown Royal"?
greed and death
01-04-2009, 05:31
If there was any money left from the royal treasury, my grandfather drank it all away.

The trick is to raid another more frugal countries treasury, that you have a slight birthright too. I suggest Spain.
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 05:53
So long as you agree to legalize abortion, Gay marriage and let priest marry Done.

What make it legal in Vatican City? Yeah that is going to do much.
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 05:56
A Capet is sitting on the Spanish throne right now! His name is Juan Carlos. And besides, Salic Law is just what the nobles in the south of France pulled to keep Edward III of England off the throne.

I thought he was a Bourbon?
Saige Dragon
01-04-2009, 06:19
I'm actually a King. Fo' realz.
Ledgersia
01-04-2009, 06:49
And that would be? :confused:

You! :eek::eek2:
Ledgersia
01-04-2009, 06:51
I thought he was a Bourbon?

The House of Bourbon is a cadet branch of the Capetian dynasty.
Risottia
01-04-2009, 07:25
What are your royal relations?

Absolute zero.
Brutland and Norden
01-04-2009, 09:45
What royalty? We don't have royalty in my country. :)
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 09:46
The House of Bourbon is a cadet branch of the Capetian dynasty.

Yes I am aware of that but you wouldn't say he is a Capet but rather a Bourbon.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:12
Still they are separate houses entirely due to the many generations that divide them, though of course with the old European tradition of marrying their own cousins that can be disputed.

No. They are two branches of one house, just like Valois and Orléans are two more branches of the House of Capet. They all trace their male-line ancestry back to the same person - Hugh Capet.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:13
I thought he was a Bourbon?

Bourbon and Capet are one and the same. See above.
greed and death
01-04-2009, 14:13
What make it legal in Vatican City? Yeah that is going to do much.

What Vatican city does all the catholic countries shall follow behind.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:14
Let me guess he was drinking "Crown Royal"?

Probably moonshine. Which, because of its illegality, would probably have been very expensive.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:15
I'm actually a King. Fo' realz.

King of what, if I may ask?
Bottle
01-04-2009, 14:19
Not royalty, but I am pretty directly related to Jefferson Davis, who was president of the Confederacy during the American Civil War.
Wanderjar
01-04-2009, 14:19
What are your royal relations?

Well, I'm a part of the Scottish Blair Clan, and I've always been told that Queen Elizabeth is my 12th Cousin. I'm also somehow related to the Hohenzollerns. Supposedly I'm also part of the Belgian royal family, but I'm not sure how.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:19
Yes I am aware of that but you wouldn't say he is a Capet but rather a Bourbon.

Louis XVI was called Louis Capet, not Louis Bourbon, when he was executed during the Reign of Terror. His son (Louis XVII) was similarly named while they attempted to brutally re-educate the poor kid.
Wanderjar
01-04-2009, 14:20
King of what, if I may ask?

King of His Own Castle. Duh.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:24
King of His Own Castle. Duh.

:gas:
Errinundera
01-04-2009, 14:29
In my case?

A right, royal fuck up.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:51
In my case?

A right, royal fuck up.

Surely it's not that bad.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 14:52
Well, I'm a part of the Scottish Blair Clan, and I've always been told that Queen Elizabeth is my 12th Cousin. I'm also somehow related to the Hohenzollerns. Supposedly I'm also part of the Belgian royal family, but I'm not sure how.

Are the Blairs connected to the Stewarts?
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 14:56
Louis XVI was called Louis Capet, not Louis Bourbon, when he was executed during the Reign of Terror. His son (Louis XVII) was similarly named while they attempted to brutally re-educate the poor kid.

So you are saying that it was the House of Capet not the House of Bourbon that was the ruling family of France during this time?

Did not the Capet line with the name Capet die out because the sons of Phillip III did not produce sons? (Well sons that failed to live). Now I know that Bourbon ad Valois and Orleans are all descendants of the Capets but Bourbon wi=ould still be the proper term.

It would be like saying that I am a von Klitzing because that is my grand mothers maiden name (answer to the OP) when I am in reality a well heh I'm not going to mention that on a public forum now am I.

And IIRC they called him Louis Capet so as to further legitimise their revolution by implying that the Bourbons are not the true ruling family of France.
Wanderjar
01-04-2009, 15:00
Are the Blairs connected to the Stewarts?


With all the interbreeding that is always a possibility. I don't know for certain though.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 15:04
So you are saying that it was the House of Capet not the House of Bourbon that was the ruling family of France during this time?

Did not the Capet line with the name Capet die out because the sons of Phillip III did not produce sons? (Well sons that failed to live). Now I know that Bourbon ad Valois and Orleans are all descendants of the Capets but Bourbon wi=ould still be the proper term.

It would be like saying that I am a von Klitzing because that is my grand mothers maiden name (answer to the OP) when I am in reality a well heh I'm not going to mention that on a public forum now am I.

And IIRC they called him Louis Capet so as to further legitimise their revolution by implying that the Bourbons are not the true ruling family of France.

The Capets were in charge of France nonstop from 987 to 1793, and again from 1815 to 1848. If they had last names like we do, they all would have borne the last name Capet because they were (and still are, if you count the pretenders) all MALE-LINE descendants of Hugh Capet.

They called him Louis Capet as a way to insult him. Monarchs regnant do not have surnames.

Philip III had four sons that survived to adulthood. One of them was my 21st-great-grandfather, Philip IV. The direct Capetians died out with Charles IV, and were succeeded by Philip III's MALE-LINE grandson, Philip VI.
Tmutarakhan
01-04-2009, 15:18
While playing golf in Palm Beach, my grandfather once got to piss in the urinal next to the Duke of Windsor (formerly king Edward VIII).
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 15:43
The Capets were in charge of France nonstop from 987 to 1793, and again from 1815 to 1848. If they had last names like we do, they all would have borne the last name Capet because they were (and still are, if you count the pretenders) all MALE-LINE descendants of Hugh Capet.

They called him Louis Capet as a way to insult him. Monarchs regnant do not have surnames.

Philip III had four sons that survived to adulthood. One of them was my 21st-great-grandfather, Philip IV. The direct Capetians died out with Charles IV, and were succeeded by Philip III's MALE-LINE grandson, Philip VI.

Now the first King of France of the House of Bourbon Henry IV his mother was Joan III of Navarre and his father was Antoine de Bourbon where they got the House of Bourbon, now was Antoine de Bourbon a direct male
descendant of Hugh Capet?

Also check your TG's
Aelosia
01-04-2009, 15:45
To royalty, I don't think so, but my family has obtained several noble titles. So I am descended from the nobility, even if right now we are not. I have plenty of proof in the complete genealogy of my House.

http://www.euskalnet.net/maherran/genealogia_larrea.htm

Of course, it is in spanish and makes no sense but to Nanatsu, maybe. My family name is "Fernández de Larrea y Urbina", descended from a noble house of Knights and nobles, that is it...Given the fact that we are basques, (the same basques that gave a lesson of humility to Roland), we don't have ties to spanish royalty.

Of course, nowadays, I don't give a...about it, as one thing I hate is birthrights and privileges.
Tarantum
01-04-2009, 15:53
I have a common ancestor with Eva Braun from the late 1700s. Not even kidding...
Tantranesi
01-04-2009, 16:01
Probably none. I haven't checked.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 16:05
Now the first King of France of the House of Bourbon Henry IV his mother was Joan III of Navarre and his father was Antoine de Bourbon where they got the House of Bourbon, now was Antoine de Bourbon a direct male descendant of Hugh Capet?

Also check your TG's

Hugh Capet
Robert II of France
Henry I of France
Philip I of France
Louis VI of France
Louis VII of France
Philip II of France
Louis VIII of France
Louis IX of France
Robert, Count of Clermont (his brother - Philip III of France - is an ancestor of mine)
Louis I, Duke of Bourbon
James I, Count of La Marche
John I, Count of La Marche
Louis, Count of Vendôme
John VIII, Count of Vendôme
Francis, Count of Vendôme
Charles, Duke of Vendôme
Antoine, Duke of Vendôme and jure uxoris King of Navarre
Henry III of Navarre/IV of France

Yes, he was.

Source: Robert Knecht's Renaissance France, via Wikipedia
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 16:15
*snip*

EDIT: Disregard you edited while I was typing.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 16:16
I have a common ancestor with Eva Braun from the late 1700s. Not even kidding...

I share an ancestor with Marlon Brando from the late 1600s.
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 16:17
Royalty is something that does interest me and the interaction between the different families as well as how they became rulers and the power struggles involved as well as their relations. I will say France is a short coming of my knowledge on this issue as I have more focused on England/Britain as well as those in Central Europe. Now my question is where did you get this list from? My books have some but not enough knowledge on it, so if you could let me know more than grateful.

You snipped out my source. If that doesn't suffice, I have a few (very distant) cousins who can back me up who are much more closely related to these people than I am (one of them could have been in line to become Duke of Teschen if Austria-Hungary hadn't fallen).

Paying attention to France would help you with a lot of those royal genealogies. Edward III of England's mother was a French princess, the current Spanish royal family is in large part of French extraction when you trace the male lines of several of Juan Carlos's recent ancestors, and the Italian House of Savoy intermarried a lot with the French.
Ring of Isengard
01-04-2009, 16:28
There was a study a few years back that said about 90% of the world population could trace their blood back to royalty at some point.

That said, I'm related to PT Barnum, of Barnum and Bailey's circus fame
8% of people living of men where the Ghengis Khan ruled are related to him. That's 16million men.
Any relation to Kaiser Wilhelm II?
He could have been our king.
Saige Dragon
01-04-2009, 16:29
King of what, if I may ask?

It's 2009 so being a King of anything really has no meaning or implications, at least in North America. But if you must know, yes my drivers license does in fact say 'King' on it. As do all my other forms of ID, tax forms, etc...
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 16:33
8% of people living of men where the Ghengis Khan ruled are related to him. That's 16million men.

He could have been our king.

I'm aware of that. Seeing as his maternal grandmother was Queen Victoria and all.

Thank you, Act of Settlement 1701, for locking me out of the line of succession...
Blouman Empire
01-04-2009, 16:37
You snipped out my source. If that doesn't suffice, I have a few (very distant) cousins who can back me up who are much more closely related to these people than I am (one of them could have been in line to become Duke of Teschen if Austria-Hungary hadn't fallen).

See above.

Paying attention to France would help you with a lot of those royal genealogies. Edward III of England's mother was a French princess, the current Spanish royal family is in large part of French extraction when you trace the male lines of several of Juan Carlos's recent ancestors, and the Italian House of Savoy intermarried a lot with the French.

Yes true I was aware that Edward III could have laid claim to the French throne I am also aware that his mother was the daughter of Philip IV of France
Ring of Isengard
01-04-2009, 16:52
I'm aware of that. Seeing as his maternal grandmother was Queen Victoria and all.

Thank you, Act of Settlement 1701, for locking me out of the line of succession...

He might of been a good king.
Hestania
01-04-2009, 17:00
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is my great-great uncle
Milks Empire
01-04-2009, 17:46
He might of been a good king.

I might have been a good king too. But, as with Wilhelm, we'll never know.
No Names Left Damn It
01-04-2009, 18:12
Henry VIII, and therefore Henry VII as well as Lady Jane Grey.
Ring of Isengard
01-04-2009, 18:56
Henry VIII, and therefore Henry VII as well as Lady Jane Grey.

So you're related to the King who built the economy to great levels, the man who destroyed said economy and had six wives, and a girl who ruled for a week and shares her name with tea.

Have you done anything similar?
Western Mercenary Unio
01-04-2009, 19:03
None.
No Names Left Damn It
01-04-2009, 19:05
So you're related to the King who built the economy to great levels, the man who destroyed said economy and had six wives, and a girl who ruled for a week and shares her name with tea.

Have you done anything similar?

Which one built the economy to great levels? Henry VII stockpiled loads of money but didn't do anything with it.
Vetalia
01-04-2009, 19:11
My family is from Poland. It probably doesn't even matter...
greed and death
01-04-2009, 19:23
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is my great-great uncle

So do you want to be king of Saudi Arabia?
Me and the CIA got a deal for you.
Anti-Social Darwinism
01-04-2009, 19:58
Which one built the economy to great levels? Henry VII stockpiled loads of money but didn't do anything with it.

Yes, Henry VIII spent all the money and pretty much left England broke. It was left to his heirs to rebuild - Edward didn't have a chance, nor did Jane Grey. Mary was too busy trying to get her Spanish husband's attention and restore Catholicism to worry about such trivialities as a broken economy. That was left for Elizabeth.

Anent my earlier post, an abortive attempt at humor, like all people living today, I probably have royal relatives somewhere in the distant past. There is a remote, very remote, connection with the current British royal family, but I'm convinced that everyone has a remote, very remote, connection with some royal family somewhere.
Flammable Ice
01-04-2009, 20:52
I have primarily germanic blood; so does the Queen.
Cameroi
01-04-2009, 21:30
my mom's natural father's name was konigsberg. and no i don't know the exact spelling.

i doubt if that is of any REAL pertinence.

my dad's side of the family, back before there was a u.s., came over as Hessian mercenaries.
(although his mother's fathers people were andrews. clan ross as i understand it. and his mother's mother was Onondaga)

i suppose it MIGHT be interesting to know, but i don't see as how it would mean much.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
02-04-2009, 01:51
To royalty, I don't think so, but my family has obtained several noble titles. So I am descended from the nobility, even if right now we are not. I have plenty of proof in the complete genealogy of my House.

http://www.euskalnet.net/maherran/genealogia_larrea.htm

Of course, it is in spanish and makes no sense but to Nanatsu, maybe. My family name is "Fernández de Larrea y Urbina", descended from a noble house of Knights and nobles, that is it...Given the fact that we are basques, (the same basques that gave a lesson of humility to Roland), we don't have ties to spanish royalty.

Of course, nowadays, I don't give a...about it, as one thing I hate is birthrights and privileges.

You're related to the Larrea line? Oh heavens. :eek2:
Heikoku 2
02-04-2009, 01:57
I have Royal Flush relations.

I'm related to the Ten, Jack, Queen and King of Spades! :D
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 01:58
Depends. Does the Gambino Crime Family count as royalty?:D
New Limacon
02-04-2009, 03:23
What are your royal relations?

I assume some sort of king or queen; a duke, possibly.
Anti-Social Darwinism
02-04-2009, 04:29
I've read, or tried to read, this thread. It leads me to wonder why people are so concerned with their lineage. Aside from the fact that it gives one a connection to history, which I think is important, it serves little. It's who and what you are now, not who your ancestors were, that's important.

I am interested in genealogy because it gives me roots and a concept of where I stand in history, not because of some reflected glory of some purported ancestor. Does it matter if great grand uncle Henry was a king if you are flunking out of school and are looking at a future of collecting trash for a living?
Conserative Morality
02-04-2009, 04:30
I've read, or tried to read, this thread. It leads me to wonder why people are so concerned with their lineage. Aside from the fact that it gives one a connection to history, which I think is important, it serves little. It's who and what you are now, not who your ancestors were, that's important.

I am interested in genealogy because it gives me roots and a concept of where I stand in history, not because of some reflected glory of some purported ancestor. Does it matter if great grand uncle Henry was a king if you are flunking out of school and are looking at a future of collecting trash for a living?

Well, if you move back and start a revolution against the foolish beaurocrats and restore the monarchy...
greed and death
02-04-2009, 04:33
I've read, or tried to read, this thread. It leads me to wonder why people are so concerned with their lineage. Aside from the fact that it gives one a connection to history, which I think is important, it serves little. It's who and what you are now, not who your ancestors were, that's important.

I am interested in genealogy because it gives me roots and a concept of where I stand in history, not because of some reflected glory of some purported ancestor. Does it matter if great grand uncle Henry was a king if you are flunking out of school and are looking at a future of collecting trash for a living?

Now it does, governments just collapsed, and feudalism is back. If you have blue blood you can use that to get an army of vassals. Me and my hoards are going to kill scientist.
Anti-Social Darwinism
02-04-2009, 04:36
Now it does, governments just collapsed, and feudalism is back. If you have blue blood you can use that to get an army of vassals. Me and my hoards are going to kill scientist.

Nah, I'll be a warlord (warlady?). It will have nothing to do with my "blue blood," but with my ability to inspire, lead people and crush my enemies. How do you think kings got started in the first place?
Skallvia
02-04-2009, 04:39
Nah, I'll be a warlord (warlady?). It will have nothing to do with my "blue blood," but with my ability to inspire, lead people and crush my enemies. How do you think kings got started in the first place?

God told them to rape and pillage things?
greed and death
02-04-2009, 04:40
Nah, I'll be a warlord (warlady?). It will have nothing to do with my "blue blood," but with my ability to inspire, lead people and crush my enemies. How do you think kings got started in the first place?

Vikings kill them they are coming to be a scourge upon our civilization
Anti-Social Darwinism
02-04-2009, 04:42
God told them to rape and pillage things?

More like they told God they were going to rape and pillage and that God better be on their side, because that's how things roll.
greed and death
02-04-2009, 04:43
More like they told God they were going to rape and pillage and that God better be on their side, because that's how things roll.

God sides with the victors.
Anti-Social Darwinism
02-04-2009, 04:47
God sides with the victors.

Damn straight. And victors become kings because they're victors, not because of some "divine" right.

When you look back at your royal ancestors, you might consider that he became a king because he was a raping, pillaging, monstrous asshole, not because he was a worthy, nice, god-fearing person.
Skallvia
02-04-2009, 04:49
Damn straight. And victors become kings because they're victors, not because of some "divine" right.

When you look back at your royal ancestors, you might consider that he became a king because he was a raping, pillaging, monstrous asshole, not because he was a worthy, nice, god-fearing person.

Wait.......


Thats not the same thing?
greed and death
02-04-2009, 05:56
Wait.......


Thats not the same thing?

*points gun at your head*
Who's the King now ??
Skallvia
02-04-2009, 06:06
*points gun at your head*
Who's the King now ??

Um...Um.......I plead the FIFTH!!!:p
The Parkus Empire
02-04-2009, 06:25
God sides with the victors.

God fights on the side with the best artillery.
greed and death
02-04-2009, 06:25
God fights on the side with the best artillery.

And missiles and planes. and above all else training.
Hestania
02-04-2009, 14:19
So do you want to be king of Saudi Arabia?
Me and the CIA got a deal for you.

Haha no thanks, I am just fine living my westernised, non-religious life and I look retarded in Saudi clothes as well.
Dumb Ideologies
02-04-2009, 14:29
I'm a direct descendent of Queen Jesus I of Somewhere-Near-That-Sandy-Place-Where-the-Terrorists-Come-From.
greed and death
02-04-2009, 15:28
Haha no thanks, I am just fine living my westernised, non-religious life and I look retarded in Saudi clothes as well.

You only have to wear those during Haj season to greet the tourist.