NationStates Jolt Archive

This occurred to me as a result of the One World Government thread, as a more viable and probably prefereable alternative. To quote my own post:

"I think a better alternative would be for groups of nations to join in blocks based on mutual interests and ideals. These would basically be extended alliances, which would cooperate on global issues, common defense, and human rights, but in which the individual members would still retain significant independence. Perhaps a more decentralized version of the EU, or a more comprehensive and less purely military version of NATO. Ideally, their should be at least three such blocks, to act as checks and balances on each other.

I could see, for example, The US, Japan, Canada, Mexico, and the current EU joining into one such block. Russia and some of its old allies might be a second. China, and some of the corrupt African governments its currently supporting/trading with might comprise a third. Though I'm sure one could come up with alternative arrangements."

I find it an interesting alternative, but since its starting to go off topic in the other thread, I thought I'd repost it here and see what others thought.

yeah, shouldntve nominated a clown to run it, tends to make things a little anarchic, lol...


I could see it happening, although, at least the US-etc. one seems to be based around economics more than anything else...Maybe Obama can get us more in line with the EU but till then itd be difficult on that front....

I want less governmental centralization, not more.

The US one is based around politics and ideology. Mexico, America, and Canada forming a "North American Union" is a concept any right wing paranoiac should already be familiar with, and from there I extend it to Europe based on ties such as NATO, the British Commonwealth, and a generally liberal democratic society. I include Japan because it is likewise a modern, first world democracy.

I want less governmental centralization, not more.

^ This.

I want less governmental centralization, not more.

^ This.

I could live with that if less went with it. My roving band of maniacs needs freedom to wander. :)

Hmm, its a dificult call to make. I think that we probably need more centralization in some areas, and less in others, but less overall.

My ideal would be for an alliance that cooperates on certain key global issues, but otherwise respects the independence of its individual members.

Anarchy.

Isn't this reminiscent of 1984?

Isn't this reminiscent of 1984?

Only insofar as their are three major world governments. The rest of it, not really.

I could live with that if less went with it. My roving band of maniacs needs freedom to wander. :)

I support ANY government system that is run by LG. :D

That fails to repair the countries with major problems because you just place them with China. I want reform!

That fails to repair the countries with major problems because you just place them with China. I want reform!

It was more what I considered a plausible alinement, than the most beneficial one.

It was more what I considered a plausible alinement, than the most beneficial one.

I do not see how Russia and its old allies plus China and corrupt African governments could be "checks and balances".

I do not see how Russia and its old allies plus China and corrupt African governments could be "checks and balances".

What I mean is this: if we must have superpowers, it is best to have at least three. With one, it can dictate to the world. With two, they can enter into a Cold War style struggle, which could turn into a hot, even nuclear war. If, however, their are three, then even if two are in conflict, the third will have a vested interest in mediating to prevent a global nuclear conflict, if nothing else.

this (the original proposal) sounds rather too much like the existing situation, with all its problems, limitations and shortcomings. one that seems unstable and unlikely to lead to, let alone maintain, the kind of peaceful world where everyone can pursue the real gratifications of creating and exploring in harmony with nature's cycles of renewal, without having to constantly watch over their shoulders for egotistical bastards becoming heads of states and beating each other's civilian populations over the head for fun and profit.