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BNP Political, Britain needs change

Dingle nation
27-03-2009, 20:10
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government. They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person. It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour, this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:13
Bugger off.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:14
Bugger off.
Blunt and to the point as always.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:14
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government. They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person. It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour, this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.

Sources?
Heikoku 2
27-03-2009, 20:14
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government. They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person. It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour, this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.

The BNP is a toy party that does not deserve to exist, let alone to be respected, even less to have any degree of power beyond their delusional mumblings about "They took our jerbz!".

It's sad that Britain, that helped defeat a Nazi regime, has a Nazi party all of its own. Good thing said accursed, idiotic, demonic party has no power and will not get any.

That's all.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:16
The BNP is a toy party that does not deserve to exist, let alone to be respected, even less to have any degree of power beyond their delusional mumblings about "They took our jerbz!".

It's sad that Britain, that helped defeat a Nazi regime, has a Nazi party all of its own. Good thing said accursed, idiotic, demonic party has no power and will not get any.

That's all.

Actually the do have some power, they have seats in this country and the EP.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:17
Good thing said accursed, idiotic, demonic party has no power and will not get any.

Sadly, they control Berking county Council, as well as Dagenham, and are on the rise in Stoke and London.
Neo Art
27-03-2009, 20:18
Yes, BNP being in power would certainly bring change to Britain. Unfortunately that change would be to turn the UK into a third world hellhole.
Getbrett
27-03-2009, 20:18
The BNP is a toy party that does not deserve to exist, let alone to be respected, even less to have any degree of power beyond their delusional mumblings about "They took our jerbz!".

It's sad that Britain, that helped defeat a Nazi regime, has a Nazi party all of its own. Good thing said accursed, idiotic, demonic party has no power and will not get any.

That's all.

Dey derka derrrrrrr.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:18
Actually the do have some power, they have seats in this country

But they don't have any seats in the House of Commons, which is what matters.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:19
Yes, BNP being in power would certainly bring change to Britain. Unfortunately that change would be to turn the UK into a third world hellhole.

I think it would be a 2nd world country actually.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:20
But they don't have any seats in the House of Commons, which is what matters.

I was merely pointing out that the BNP do have some power.
Heikoku 2
27-03-2009, 20:20
Actually the do have some power, they have seats in this country and the EP.

They only have real powers in places that don't matter.

Chicken or the egg.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:21
I was merely pointing out that the BNP do have some power.

And you're absolutely right, I was just clarifying for Heikoku, who may or may not know that.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:22
I think it would be a 2nd world country actually.

Yeah, somewhere along the lines of Russia.
Heikoku 2
27-03-2009, 20:23
And you're absolutely right, I was just clarifying for Heikoku, who may or may not know that.

I didn't. But still, the BNP will get weaker and weaker, and fade into deserved oblivion.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:24
And you're absolutely right, I was just clarifying for Heikoku, who may or may not know that.
Oh, soz Heikoku, I forget you were foreign.
Yeah, somewhere along the lines of Russia.
Better than being somewhere like Ethiopia.
Newer Burmecia
27-03-2009, 20:24
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government. They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person. It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour, this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.
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No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:25
I didn't. But still, the BNP will get weaker and weaker, and fade into deserved oblivion.

I think they'll grew in power during the recession, before collapsing into a failfest of nothingness when the economy gets going again.
Dingle nation
27-03-2009, 20:26
has a Nazi party all of its own.

.

their not nazi's their nationlists. they dont want to erase a particullar race of the face of the earth. they are here to aid all immagrants turned crimenal, illegal immagrants, and help any other immagrant leave the country if they wish to leave not gas them and starve the healthy of them in concentraation camps.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:26
Better than being somewhere like Ethiopia.

But worse than being somewhere like we are now.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:26
I think they'll grew in power during the recession, before collapsing into a failfest of nothingness when the economy gets going again.

If the economy gets better.
Newer Burmecia
27-03-2009, 20:27
I didn't. But still, the BNP will get weaker and weaker, and fade into deserved oblivion.
I genuinely wish I could be as optimistic as you are. Unfortunately for us, the BNP's vote share has been increasing year on year.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:28
their not nazi's their nationlists. they dont want to erase a particullar race of the face of the earth. they are here to aid all immagrants turned crimenal, illegal immagrants, and help any other immagrant leave the country if they wish to leave not gas them and starve the healthy of them in concentraation camps.

Please learn to spell, then I'll take you seriously. Actually, they want forced removal of all immigrants, legal or not, who turned up after 1948.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:29
their not nazi's their nationlists. they dont want to erase a particullar race of the face of the earth. they are here to aid all immagrants turned crimenal, illegal immagrants, and help any other immagrant leave the country if they wish to leave not gas them and starve the healthy of them in concentraation camps.

That's basicly what Nazi means. National Socialist.
Newer Burmecia
27-03-2009, 20:30
If the economy gets better.
Which it will. We've had plenty of recessions before, and this won't be the last. I know it's fashionable of late to predict that everything will be worse than anything that's happened before, the great depression, etc, etc, but I don't believe a word of it.
Heikoku 2
27-03-2009, 20:30
I genuinely wish I could be as optimistic as you are. Unfortunately for us, the BNP's vote share has been increasing year on year.

It will either change with the economy or reach a fairly small peak.

If those morons ever seem to be about to become a threat, you guys should deal with them. Until then, relegate them to their due insignificance.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:30
Please learn to spell, then I'll take you seriously. Actually, they want forced removal of all immigrants, legal or not, who turned up after 1948.

You could atleast quote me when you take the words out of my mouth.
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 20:31
It will either change with the economy or reach a fairly small peak.

If those morons ever seem to be about to become a threat, you guys should deal with them. Until then, relegate them to their due insignificance.

How will we tackle them?
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:31
If the economy gets better.

Of course it will. In a few years, obviously, but it won't be a never-ending depression.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:31
You could atleast quote me when you take the words out of my mouth.

I took it from their website, actually.
Lacadaemon
27-03-2009, 20:33
Nah. The BNP will never get into power. If it ever looked like it was getting popular enough to do that Labour would steal all its policies first.
Newer Burmecia
27-03-2009, 20:34
It will either change with the economy or reach a fairly small peak.

If those morons ever seem to be about to become a threat, you guys should deal with them. Until then, relegate them to their due insignificance.
Given that the poor, disaffected white working class make up the bulk (although by no means all) of the BNP's constituency and that their vote share was increasing in the good years, I don't see why their vote share will fall in an era of rising poverty and unemployment. I guess the European Parliamentary elections in June will be a good litmus test.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:34
Nah. The BNP will never get into power. If it ever looked like it was getting popular enough to do that Labour would steal all its policies first.

See the MRLP and votes for 18 year-olds.
Dingle nation
27-03-2009, 20:39
Actually, they want forced removal of all immigrants, legal or not, who turned up after 1948.

Why if they wanted forced removal of all immigrants why would they need their other policies i.e. giving British people the priority of housing and of jobs it wouldn’t make any sense.
DrunkenDove
27-03-2009, 20:41
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Heikoku 2
27-03-2009, 20:42
http://sondrak.com/images/uploads/pope_face_palm.jpg

"Ich sehen mit meine kleine augen..."
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:42
Why if they wanted forced removal of all immigrants why would they need their other policies i.e. giving British people the priority of housing and of jobs it wouldn’t make any sense.

Because they're stupid dicks who don't know what they're talking about. How can you give housing priorities? Whoever puts in the best offer gets the house, and whoever is most qualified gets the job. They aren't prizes to be handed out by the government.
Dingle nation
27-03-2009, 20:44
‘A majority of people back the British National Party's policies, according to a poll released today.
But the YouGov survey found that many people disown the policies once they are associated with the BNP
It found that 59 per cent of people supported a halt to all further immigration to the UK - one of the BNP's main pledges - when they were not told of the far-right group's association with the policy.’


This shows that the views upon the BNP are on the party itself and not on thier policies.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:44
"Ich sehen mit meine kleine augen..."

Ich sprachen zer gut Deutsch.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:46
This shows that the views upon the BNP are on the party itself and not on thier policies.

That poll was taken in East London, so will obviously be more skewed against immigrants. Anyhoo, their policies either don't make sense, are stupid, or will just destroy the country.
Psychotic Mongooses
27-03-2009, 20:46
*sigh*

So much potential for a kick ass thread... so much potential. :(
Lacadaemon
27-03-2009, 20:47
I can see the rationale behind limiting further immigration at the moment tho'. Unemployment is likely to continue to skyrocket, so you all don't want more bodies in the boat.


To deal with the whole culture clash thingy, I would recommend the government embark on a program of encouraging inter-racial marriages. I swear, had these asshats been in charge 1,000 years ago, we'd still be self-identifying as Normans, Saxons and Danes.
Dingle nation
27-03-2009, 20:55
. How can you give housing priorities? Whoever puts in the best offer gets the house, and whoever is most qualified gets the job. They aren't prizes to be handed out by the government.

On council houses where people cannot afford to buy or rent a regular houses so many British people cannot get access to these because there are two few, these are taken by immigrants

For example Abu Hamza who got given £45,000 a year on top of an extra £8,000 disabilities. He got a council house valued at £800,000
Rambhutan
27-03-2009, 20:58
On council houses where people cannot afford to buy or rent a regular houses so many British people cannot get access to these because there are two few, these are taken by immigrants

For example Abu Hamza who got given £45,000 a year on top of an extra £8,000 disabilities. He got a council house valued at £800,000

There are too few council houses because the Conservatives decided to sell them all off for a sort term profit.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 20:59
On council houses where people cannot afford to buy or rent a regular houses so many British people cannot get access to these because there are two few, these are taken by immigrants.

But these immigrants are British citizens, so they should be treated as equals to native British people.

For example Abu Hamza who got given £45,000 a year on top of an extra £8,000 disabilities.

Yeah well, that was fucking ridiculous wasn't it?

He got a council house valued at £800,000

Fuck off he did.
Yootopia
27-03-2009, 20:59
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government.
Not really.
They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person.
How so?
It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour
Wut?
this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.
No, the BNP and its entire membership needs to try to get cheeky so we they can get the fuck smashed out of them as happened to the equally disgusting BUF.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:01
No, the BNP and its entire membership needs to try to get cheeky so we they can get the fuck smashed out of them as happened to the equally disgusting BUF.

The BUF were worse, IMO.
Edwards Street
27-03-2009, 21:07
From what I seem to understand, the BNP seems to be a neo-Nazi party, am I correct?
Yootopia
27-03-2009, 21:07
The BUF were worse, IMO.
How so?

Leadership that loved Hitler - Check
Not openly anti-Semitic, but most members probably are - Chek
Isolationist - Check
No idea about economics - Check
Has a group of retards to back it up in a fight - Check (Combat 88 for the BNP)
Yootopia
27-03-2009, 21:08
From what I seem to understand, the BNP seems to be a neo-Nazi party, am I correct?
Pretty much, aye, although their more open hatred is aimed at Muslims rather than Jews.
Edwards Street
27-03-2009, 21:10
Pretty much, aye, although their more open hatred is aimed at Muslims rather than Jews.
Interesting, what percentage of support do they have among British citizens?
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:10
From what I seem to understand, the BNP seems to be a neo-Nazi party, am I correct?

Not quite. The National Front, who are one step up from the BNP, and have close ties with them are, but the BNP are just incredibly far right, anti immigrant and Islamophobic.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:11
Leadership that loved Hitler - Check

Ah, but the BNP have denounced Hitler, and also claimed that fighting against him in the war was a Good Thing.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:12
Interesting, what percentage of support do they have among British citizens?

A small one, and only in England. I'm not even sure if they contest seats in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. However their support is growing, and they control 2 councils.
Skallvia
27-03-2009, 21:14
How does this help the Anglo Union at all?...Honestly...
Dingle nation
27-03-2009, 21:15
How so?
Wut?

.

It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:16
How does this help the Anglo Union at all?...Honestly...

If TAI's proposed trade agreement/alliance thingy did take off, the BNP wouldn't join it. They seem to think we can cope without foreign trade. They want to take us out of the EU FFS.
Skallvia
27-03-2009, 21:17
It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan

Youre Glenn Beck, arent you? Admit it!
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:17
It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan

None of those things have happened, try again.
No Names Left Damn It
27-03-2009, 21:19
Youre Glenn Beck, arent you? Admit it!

Is that the bloke who want on a failbag rant about Canada?
Skallvia
27-03-2009, 21:21
Is that the bloke who want on a failbag rant about Canada?

Yeah, he also makes that same rant Dingle nation made, only about the US, all the time, like, Word for Word, lol...
Psychotic Mongooses
27-03-2009, 21:26
It being banned to fly an English national flag in England
Source?

but they can fly their national flags here.
And?

Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays
Source?

they can call Ramadan, Ramadan
So, it's Muslims you have problem with then.
Vetalia
27-03-2009, 21:28
Well, it has been a while since we had a good world war...
Lacadaemon
27-03-2009, 21:54
Well, it has been a while since we had a good world war...

I've already told people this is going to happen.

This time though, the US gets to play the 1,000 year empire, and the UK stands in as its little bitch (Italy mk II). Canada will be anschlussed, and Mexico - because of it's persistent infringements on our southern border and harassment of US citizens within its territory - will be occupied.

Everything will be swimming until we invade france.

Of course, the perfidious UKians will switch sides half way through the war and claim they were misled about the whole thing.

Already got my popcorn for the battle of DC.
Ledgersia
27-03-2009, 22:18
Does the UK need change? Absolutely.

Does it need the kind of "change" advocated by the BNP? Fuck no.
Ledgersia
27-03-2009, 22:20
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You win the thread.
Nodinia
27-03-2009, 22:36
It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan

Not true.

Why so attached to the Butchers apron anyhoo?
Ring of Isengard
27-03-2009, 22:36
Yeah well, that was fucking ridiculous wasn't it?
Uh huh.


Fuck off he did.
He did.

Interesting, what percentage of support do they have among British citizens?
Very little.
It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan
Dude, please stop recycling old arguments I made. They don't work on this forum.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585094
Newer Burmecia
27-03-2009, 22:51
You win the thread.
Thank you. I initially thought lolcats were a little dated, but what the heck! :p
Ledgersia
27-03-2009, 22:53
Thank you. I initially thought lolcats were a little dated, but what the heck! :p

Lolcats are never dated! :tongue:

*hands you a Victory Cookie*
Newer Burmecia
27-03-2009, 22:56
Lolcats are never dated! :tongue:

*hands you a Victory Cookie*
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/11/lolcat-high-5.jpg
Ledgersia
27-03-2009, 23:03
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/11/lolcat-high-5.jpg

:D

Oh, and as bad as the BNP is, they are saints compared to these guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_People%27s_Party_(2005))...
The Atlantian islands
27-03-2009, 23:12
How does this help the Anglo Union at all?...Honestly...
It doesn't, at all. The BNP wouldn't be down for the 'lack of sovereignty'.
If TAI's proposed trade agreement/alliance thingy did take off, the BNP wouldn't join it. They seem to think we can cope without foreign trade. They want to take us out of the EU FFS.
Yeah, the BNP, while not a neo-nazi party (let's not make them worse than they are by lying, guys), does suck. They stand in the way of my Anglo Alliance. :p
Frozen River
27-03-2009, 23:19
Wasn't this the party whose chairman Nick Griffin was involved in some butt love business with handsome blond males? Or am I confusing him with other right-wingers?
Skallvia
27-03-2009, 23:20
Wasn't this the party whose chairman Nick Griffin was involved in some butt love business with handsome blond males? Or am I confusing him with other right-wingers?

Right-Wingers always are, *shakes head*...
The Atlantian islands
27-03-2009, 23:23
Wasn't this the party whose chairman Nick Griffin was involved in some butt love business with handsome blond males? Or am I confusing him with other right-wingers?
Don't you mean Haider from Austria who people said was gay (even though from what I remember he wasn't) ? ? ?
The Atlantian islands
27-03-2009, 23:24
Right-Wingers always are, *shakes head*...
. . . we are what? :p
Frozen River
27-03-2009, 23:27
Don't you mean Haider from Austria who people said was gay (even though from what I remember he wasn't) ? ? ?

Well, this one was. Big time. You should have seen the behavior of his widow, er, "life man" Stefan Petzner after his death.
New Manvir
27-03-2009, 23:49
The BNP is a toy party that does not deserve to exist, let alone to be respected, even less to have any degree of power beyond their delusional mumblings about "They took our jerbz!".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fGl9587X8&feature=related

It's sad that Britain, that helped defeat a Nazi regime, has a Nazi party all of its own. Good thing said accursed, idiotic, demonic party has no power and will not get any.

That's all.

Unlike you lazy Brazilians who just sat on the sidelines. :p
Ledgersia
27-03-2009, 23:55
Unlike you lazy Brazilians who just sat on the sidelines. :p

Ever heard of the Brazilian Expeditionary Force?
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 00:00
Ever heard of the Brazilian Expeditionary Force?

So, on the sidelines till we called em up, lol..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Expeditionary_Force

Brazil's participation alongside the Allied powers in World War II was by no means a foregone conclusion. Initially Brazil maintained a position of neutrality, trading with both the Allies and the Axis Powers, while Brazilian president Getúlio Vargas's quasi-Fascist policies indicated a leaning toward the Axis powers. However, as the war progressed, trade with the Axis countries became almost impossible and the US began forceful diplomatic and economic efforts to bring Brazil onto the Allied side.
Ledgersia
28-03-2009, 00:03
I know, but they still participated. They were the only Latin American country besides Mexico that sent military forces in support of the Allies. All the others supplied bases, material aid, or just moral support.
New Chalcedon
28-03-2009, 01:46
Wasn't this the party whose chairman Nick Griffin was involved in some butt love business with handsome blond males? Or am I confusing him with other right-wingers?

Mmm. Hot blond guys getting it on....

*drools*

*Remembers he's in public*.

Sorry about that, guys. One good thing about right-wing homophobic jerks - they usually have good taste in men. :D
The Atlantian islands
28-03-2009, 01:52
Mmm. Hot blond guys getting it on....

*drools*

*Remembers he's in public*.

Sorry about that, guys. One good thing about right-wing homophobic jerks - they usually have good taste in men. :D

I love your quote from Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
New Chalcedon
28-03-2009, 02:00
I love your quote from Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Thank you. I think. My sarcasm detector's broken at the moment (massive overload from a cookout earlier tonight), so I'm not sure how sincere your compliment is.
The Atlantian islands
28-03-2009, 02:07
Thank you. I think. My sarcasm detector's broken at the moment (massive overload from a cookout earlier tonight), so I'm not sure how sincere your compliment is.
I'm a big fan of hers! Totally sincere.
Ifreann
28-03-2009, 02:52
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government.

They ride through the streets on unicorns and wielding swords forged from purest Foreignium, destroying Britishness and establishing the Caliphate of Airstrip One. Also, the Illuminati! are involved somehow.
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 03:00
They ride through the streets on unicorns and wielding swords forged from purest Foreignium, destroying Britishness and establishing the Caliphate of Airstrip One. Also, the Illuminati! are involved somehow.

Youre not supposed to tell them!!! GAWD!!!

Now the whole things ruined *shakes head*..
Muravyets
28-03-2009, 03:06
Dear OP:

When you post shit like this:
their not nazi's their nationlists. they dont want to erase a particullar race of the face of the earth. they are here to aid all immagrants turned crimenal, illegal immagrants, and help any other immagrant leave the country if they wish to leave not gas them and starve the healthy of them in concentraation camps.

It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan

Exactly what is your objective? What are you hoping to achieve?
Londim
28-03-2009, 03:24
The BNP can fuck right off. That is all I have to say on this matter.
Balawaristan
28-03-2009, 08:39
The BNP is a rotten gang of fascists and boisterous illiterate underclass skinheads who can't understand that socialism is in their best interest.

As a Jew, as the descendant of immigrants, and as a Marxist, I will do everything in my power to oppose the BNP and their analogs around the world. Your ideology, your whole thought process, is regressive and obsolete, and if you ever take to the street where I'm around, I'll scream in your face as loudly as you'll scream in mine. And if you ever become violent where I'm around, I promise you that I will respond in kind.

Your party should be legally outlawed, your leaders thrown in prison, and BNP voters should be forcefully educated in the values of a progressive, multicultural society.
Ledgersia
28-03-2009, 08:48
The BNP is a rotten gang of fascists and boisterous illiterate underclass skinheads who can't understand that socialism is in their best interest.

As a Jew, as the descendant of immigrants, and as a Marxist, I will do everything in my power to oppose the BNP and their analogs around the world. Your ideology, your whole thought process, is regressive and obsolete, and if you ever take to the street where I'm around, I'll scream in your face as loudly as you'll scream in mine. And if you ever become violent where I'm around, I promise you that I will respond in kind.

Your party should be legally outlawed, your leaders thrown in prison, and BNP voters should be forcefully educated in the values of a progressive, multicultural society.

BNP leaders should not be thrown in prison. Yes, their ideas are extremely reprehensible, but as long as they are law-abiding, who cares? They deserve to be ostracized and driven into obscurity.
Lacadaemon
28-03-2009, 08:59
Your party should be legally outlawed, your leaders thrown in prison, and BNP voters should be forcefully educated in the values of a progressive, multicultural society.

I demand you see the irony.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 09:30
Wasn't this the party whose chairman Nick Griffin was involved in some butt love business with handsome blond males? Or am I confusing him with other right-wingers?
I think you're confusing him with Peter Griffin. It's an easy mistake to make.:p
They ride through the streets on unicorns and wielding swords forged from purest Foreignium, destroying Britishness and establishing the Caliphate of Airstrip One. Also, the Illuminati! are involved somehow.

The Illuminati are involved with everything somehow, just don't tell them I said that.:$
Eofaerwic
28-03-2009, 11:39
To deal with the whole culture clash thingy, I would recommend the government embark on a program of encouraging inter-racial marriages. I swear, had these asshats been in charge 1,000 years ago, we'd still be self-identifying as Normans, Saxons and Danes.

Well currently the fastest growing ethnic group in the UK is 'mixed-race'. So the process is on it's way...

It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan

Lol Wut?

BNP leaders should not be thrown in prison. Yes, their ideas are extremely reprehensible, but as long as they are law-abiding, who cares? They deserve to be ostracized and driven into obscurity.

^ This - as long as they're not doing anything illegal the best thing we can do with them is just ignore them or point and laugh - combined with pointing out all the many many reasons they're wrong.
Yootopia
28-03-2009, 11:41
BNP leaders should not be thrown in prison. Yes, their ideas are extremely reprehensible, but as long as they are law-abiding, who cares? They deserve to be ostracized and driven into obscurity.
Nope. Stick them in jail and laugh in their faces.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 12:27
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government. They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person. It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour, this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1164714/Unemployment-good-peoples-health-according-Government-minister.html
Risottia
28-03-2009, 13:06
Britain has hit a stage where immigrants are starting to control the government. They have a bigger say in what happens than the average British person. It is simple we need change form the idiotic ‘unemployment leads to more men going to their GP’s, yay’ labour, this change needs to be the BNP getting in power.

Click here for the change (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_coins) the UK needs.
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 14:38
Click here for the change (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_coins) the UK needs.

No.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 14:42
Click here for the change (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_coins) the UK needs.

Fuck no.
Risottia
28-03-2009, 14:43
No.

Why not? It's change after all, in both meanings. ;)
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 14:47
Why not? It's change after all, in both meanings. ;)

Because it's what the French use. If the French still used Francs, I probably would be more pro joining the Euro.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 14:48
Why not? It's change after all, in both meanings. ;)

Because the pound is part of our heritage.

And that's a terrible pun.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 14:52
Because it's what the French use. If the French still used Francs, I probably would be more pro joining the Euro.

And you call me a xenophobe?
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 14:55
And you call me a xenophobe?

Yes. I'm Francophobic, but who in England isn't. I've got no problem with anybody else, though, whereas you do.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 15:02
Yes. I'm Francophobic, but who in England isn't. I've got no problem with anybody else, though, whereas you do.

The Frogs are the least of my worries, what's your problem with them?
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 15:05
The Frogs are the least of my worries, what's your problem with them?

I'm not worried by them, it's just the fact they use the EU to make money out of, and the CAP basically rewards backward French farmers, at the expense of decent Danish, British and Dutch ones.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 15:07
I'm not worried by them, it's just the fact they use the EU to make money out of, and the CAP basically rewards backward French farmers, at the expense of decent Danish, British and Dutch ones.

So your not a Francophobe then? You just don't like them?


Beside I thought you were an Islamophobe.
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 15:09
So your not a Francophobe then? You just don't like them?

Phobia doesn't necessarily mean fear, it can also mean dislike.

Beside I thought you were an Islamophobe.

Yeah, but Islam isn't a country.
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 16:59
Phobia doesn't necessarily mean fear, it can also mean dislike.



Yeah, but Islam isn't a country.
But xenophobia doesn't only relate to countries. It's "the dislike or fear of group of people different to one's own."
Cypresaria
28-03-2009, 17:29
The reason for increasing support for the british nazi party is the fact that politicians are ignoring completely the working class voter.
Why they are doing this because power in the UK resides in about 100 key marginal seats, the other 560 seats always return a tory or a labour person(or occasionally a liberal)
So their policies are tailored to those marginals.

The other reason is percieved discrimination against the natives by those with the stupid 'multi-cultural' agenda, the idea that the majority culture has to adapt to the needs of the immigrants rather than immigrants adapt to the majority culture. which gives rise to 'lets change the name of christmas so as not to offend ' ideas

Add in a sprinkling of 'immigrants get priority housing' and you have the rescipe for the rise in bnp support.


The BNP is a rotten gang of fascists and boisterous illiterate underclass skinheads who can't understand that socialism is in their best interest.

As a Jew, as the descendant of immigrants, and as a Marxist, I will do everything in my power to oppose the BNP and their analogs around the world. Your ideology, your whole thought process, is regressive and obsolete, and if you ever take to the street where I'm around, I'll scream in your face as loudly as you'll scream in mine. And if you ever become violent where I'm around, I promise you that I will respond in kind.

Your party should be legally outlawed, your leaders thrown in prison, and BNP voters should be forcefully educated in the values of a progressive, multicultural society.

Why dont you just throw them in gas chambers and burn the bodies instead... then claim they were 'shot while escaping'

The best way to combat the bnp is to drag their policies out in the open and show them for the stupid racist things they are rather than banning them, because banning them only makes people think "Hey these guys are being oppressed for their ideas... maybe we should support them"
Cocidium
28-03-2009, 17:41
Durkaaaduuurrrrrrr
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 17:46
Durkaaaduuurrrrrrr

We already had that, try again.
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 17:47
The best way to combat the bnp is to drag their policies out in the open and show them for the stupid racist things they are rather than banning them, because banning them only makes people think "Hey these guys are being oppressed for their ideas... maybe we should support them"

Actually, I'd say the best way to deal with them is to shoot them.

Click here for the change the UK needs.
As ever, I'm opposed to the European Union, for no real reason really. I s'pose its comparable to the old American "THEY'LL EAT YOUR BABIES" attitude to communism. I could get behind something like the United States of Europe, that made a supercountry, but not a union. I just don't like buerocracy (spelling?) I guess.
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 17:55
I'm not worried by them, it's just the fact they use the EU to make money out of, and the CAP basically rewards backward French farmers, at the expense of decent Danish, British and Dutch ones.

And they keep having us bail them out of their losing Wars :p...
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 17:57
And they keep having us bail them out of their losing Wars :p...

That's another thing. They show no thanks towards us for saving them twice.
Loria Aesir
28-03-2009, 18:06
Yes Britain needs many changes i agree. Labour have turned this country into a shambles, however the BNP will never get voted into power because they are too extreme for their own good. I wouldn't go as far as calling them a 'Nazi' party as i don't believe they have intentions of ethnic cleansing and mass genocide throughout the world. The word 'Nazi' gets tossed around far too easily now days. I also DONT support the BNP.

I will vote for the party i vote for every election in the hope that Labour get voted out. After the war and a rescission surely their time is up!
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 18:08
That's another thing. They show no thanks towards us for saving them twice.

To be fair, the English and the French have pretty much always hated each other. Hell, even when England was ruled by the French Normans they hated each other. Britain played a part in saving them in two world wars, but we've had far more wars with them then we've helped them in.
Fnordgasm 5
28-03-2009, 18:39
I think it's only fair to kick out all the immigrants in this country.. though obviously we'd have to take back all the brits living abroad but I'm sure that wouldn't fuck us, right?
James Bonder
28-03-2009, 18:41
I don't know, who else is there.. Conservatives?
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 18:43
I think it's only fair to kick out all the immigrants in this country.. though obviously we'd have to take back all the brits living abroad but I'm sure that wouldn't fuck us, right?

I wonder what the ratio between Immigrants in this county and Britons that have left it.

Did you know that more poles left this country last month than entered it...

Is that good or bad?
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 18:46
I wonder what the ratio between Immigrants in this county and Britons that have left it.

Did you know that more poles left this country last month than entered it...

Is that good or bad?

It's bad! Now who will build my greenhouse for tuppence?! D:
Fnordgasm 5
28-03-2009, 18:55
I wonder what the ratio between Immigrants in this county and Britons that have left it.

Did you know that more poles left this country last month than entered it...

Is that good or bad?

Aproxximately 4 million forn people in the UK. About 5 and a half million Brits abroad.
Taboksol
28-03-2009, 19:02
Aproxximately 4 million forn people in the UK. About 5 and a half million Brits abroad.

Source? No daily mail-esque crap please...
Londim
28-03-2009, 19:11
Source? No daily mail-esque crap please...

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=260

Source (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=260)

Just need to add the figures up and then we'll get a clear number.
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 19:12
I think it's only fair to kick out all the immigrants in this country.. though obviously we'd have to take back all the brits living abroad but I'm sure that wouldn't fuck us, right?

That depends on whether the Brits in question would actually call themselves British or not. For example, me and my brother have had a long running debate on our ethnicity. I say we're British English, even though I hate the term, because we were born in England. My brother says that we're Irish/Italian/English because of our parents and because we're born in England. Which of us is correct? And if all immigrants were to deported, how far back would you go? Last 10, 20 years? After the war? Before the war? Then theres the thing of actually coming back to Britain. Given the choice, I would probably bugger off somewhere else. Maybe Australia or Ireland, but I digress. What makes someone British?
Fnordgasm 5
28-03-2009, 19:15
Source? No daily mail-esque crap please...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/brits_abroad/html/

That's for the brits living abroad but finding an objective source for the numbers of forn people is a bit harder.. It's said to be about one ninth of the population..
Ring of Isengard
28-03-2009, 19:17
It's bad! Now who will build my greenhouse for tuppence?! D:

Make it a sixpence and you've got a deal.
Nodinia
28-03-2009, 19:17
Wasn't this the party whose chairman Nick Griffin was involved in some butt love business with handsome blond males? Or am I confusing him with other right-wingers?


That was Jorg Halder, who - having reproduced and done his duty for Austria - reverted back to his first love. In fairness he was never anti-gay in public, as far as I know.
Fnordgasm 5
28-03-2009, 19:19
That depends on whether the Brits in question would actually call themselves British or not. For example, me and my brother have had a long running debate on our ethnicity. I say we're British English, even though I hate the term, because we were born in England. My brother says that we're Irish/Italian/English because of our parents and because we're born in England. Which of us is correct? And if all immigrants were to deported, how far back would you go? Last 10, 20 years? After the war? Before the war? Then theres the thing of actually coming back to Britain. Given the choice, I would probably bugger off somewhere else. Maybe Australia or Ireland, but I digress. What makes someone British?

Irrational hatred of the french and a love of sweet tea and chocolate hobnobs.
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 19:25
Irrational hatred of the french and a love of sweet tea and chocolate hobnobs.

That is possibly the best answer I have ever recieved to that question. Although, you missed a liking for tweed and queens. On the other hand, you also missed a love of burberry, cheap larger from Tescos and knives.
No Names Left Damn It
28-03-2009, 19:25
And if all immigrants were to deported, how far back would you go?

The BNP wants all immigrants who turned up after 1948 to return home.
Taboksol
28-03-2009, 19:30
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=260

Source (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=260)

Just need to add the figures up and then we'll get a clear number.

At any rate, it's clear that immigration was greater than emigration, leading the 1.5 million net negative difference whatshisface gave probably questionable.

EDIT: It didn't make sense in the first instance; we've less than a 2-per-bearer rate of replacement so we'd need greater immigration than emigration to sustain population growth -- which has been occurring throughout this decade, so far as statistics that I remember tell. I just didn't have any solid sources.
Fnordgasm 5
28-03-2009, 19:34
At any rate, it's clear that immigration was greater than emigration, leading the 1.5 million net negative difference whatshisface gave probably questionable.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/brits_abroad/html/
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 19:35
The BNP wants all immigrants who turned up after 1948 to return home.

Okay, in which case *thinks* about 2 generations of my family would have to be deported. That raises the question from my other post, what makes someone British? Is being born in a country enough to make your ethnicity that question, or do you have to have a 'pure-blooded' ancestry which, chances are, doesn't exist anywhere in the world nowadays. Are the children of immigrants immigrants or are they British? Nationality is such a funny thing. :rolleyes:
Taboksol
28-03-2009, 19:36
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/brits_abroad/html/

No. I don't know about others, but news agencies are generally no basis for sourcing in my book.
Fnordgasm 5
28-03-2009, 19:50
No. I don't know about others, but news agencies are generally no basis for sourcing in my book.

And yet you'll base your opinion on stats that only go back as far as 1997 as if migration didn't happen before then?
Taboksol
28-03-2009, 19:53
And yet you'll base your opinion on stats that only go back as far as 1997 as if migration didn't happen before then?

Poland (and the rest of Eastern Europe and beyond) was still spinning on its head from it's state-run economy collapsing so I don't think they'd have time to emigrate; besides, a bunch of pensioners who are capitalising on their superiority complexes based on British Empire supremacy who are living in India now can hardly count, seeing as they can no longer be economically contributable at any rate?

Besides, journalistic credibility is of a lower standard, generally, than statistical credibility.
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 20:12
Okay, in which case *thinks* about 2 generations of my family would have to be deported. That raises the question from my other post, what makes someone British? Is being born in a country enough to make your ethnicity that question, or do you have to have a 'pure-blooded' ancestry which, chances are, doesn't exist anywhere in the world nowadays. Are the children of immigrants immigrants or are they British? Nationality is such a funny thing. :rolleyes:

Um, lolwut?

http://www.fabbricantidiuniversi.it/harrypotter/immagini/voldemort1.jpg
Knights of Liberty
28-03-2009, 20:39
We could always conquer the UK and bring them the Change of Obama.
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 20:53
We could always conquer the UK and bring them the Change of Obama.

Yeah, Ill have to change my picture though...

http://www.gransito.com/ilsignoredeglianelli/RitornodelRe/sauron.jpg
Void Templar
28-03-2009, 21:17
Um, lolwut?

Shit, you know my true identity! Avada Banana!
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 21:23
Shit, you know my true identity! Avada Banana!

Wha-AARRRGHA!!!

http://images.wikia.com/illogicopedia/images/thumb/3/31/Dancing_Banana.gif/120px-Dancing_Banana.gif
Rhursbourg
28-03-2009, 22:02
It being banned to fly an English national flag in England but they can fly their national flags here. Err not being allowed to call the Christmas holidays the Christmas holidays having to call it the festive period while they can call Ramadan, Ramadan

it flays on certain days in my town and it will do st georges day so its not banned dont think there is any law banning the flying of it i know there is certian regulatuions and due to day it can be where it flown
Skallvia
28-03-2009, 22:09
it flays on certain days in my town and it will do st georges day so its not banned dont think there is any law banning the flying of it i know there is certian regulatuions and due to day it can be where it flown

Look at the bright side, you dont have just everyone leaving it out there, ALL THE TIME, rain sleet or snow...

then you walk down the street with a bunch of rotting flags, cause the rednecks are too lazy to take em down...

Thats disgusting to me...
Sirmomo1
29-03-2009, 01:53
Almost 1 in 10 people born in Britain are estimated to live abroad whereas about 1 in 9 so in the answer to the debate about which side is higher, immigrants slightly outway emigrants.

It's amusing to see the papers that hate immigration the most are the ones who most passionately encourage us to emigrate.

http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/e1680751.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1d/DailyMailFrontPage.jpg

I heard it suggested that maybe they hate immigrants so much because they have the temerity to actually want to live here.

And, while we're at it, I hate the term expat. I always feel like it's used with the connotations of, for example, an American in Hungary who is looking after the Hungarian arm of the company he works for. He's there for the job, probably with large perks and the plan is to return home once the job is done. The people who call themselves expats living in Australia have far more in common with the Polish migrant to Britain.