NationStates Jolt Archive

It seems like the theme of a secret Oligarchy is coming up alot lately, a New World Order, a government within a government, etc. However, is there really a secret Oligarchy in today's society? I think back in history, the KKK could be considered an Oligarchy back when it was powerful enough to have large influence on policy within the US Government, or state government in the South.

But that was the past. Could there be a secret Oligarchy today? I could see one for national government, like the US, UK, etc. However, I don't really see one for the entire world. I mean we're fighting among ourselves all the time, and whoever would be in this one world government would have conflicting interest.

So, shadow government, or lay off the Kool-Aid?

the question is if such an oligarchy would exist wouldn't it be pointless to fight it and much more good for you if you just played along? :wink:

The KKK wasn't secret, nor was it an oligarchy. It was a bunch of braindead terrorists parading around in ridiculous costumes.

The KKK wasn't secret, nor was it an oligarchy. It was a bunch of braindead terrorists parading around in ridiculous costumes.

True, point conceded. However, it is an example of one group influencing another.

True, point conceded. However, it is an example of one group influencing another.

That's true.

Is it the Stone Cutters?

There is an oligarchy, but it's no secret. All those rich, powerful people, the ones who don't run for office, are the real power behind government. They bought it, paid for it and they run it.

World Bank, Trilateral Commission - red herrings.

It was a bunch of braindead terrorists parading around in ridiculous costumes.

sounds like Halloween

World Bank, Trilateral Commission - red herrings.

oh noez not the organization aimed at aiding the free movement of goods!

There is an oligarchy, but it's no secret. All those rich, powerful people, the ones who don't run for office, are the real power behind government. They bought it, paid for it and they run it.

World Bank, Trilateral Commission - red herrings.

Would they have the power to make Carter go back on his campaign promise to release what the US government know about UFOs?

sounds like Halloween

But more sinister.

Would they have the power to make Carter go back on his campaign promise to release what the US government know about UFOs?

Money talks quite loudly, even to Jimmy Carter.

But more sinister.

"yippee I got mahself a blackjack!"

I'm so dressing up as a scary ghost this year

Money talks quite loudly, even to Jimmy Carter.

But what would they gain from suppressing UFO documents?

But what would they gain from suppressing UFO documents?

I don't know, you'd have to ask them.

Though, frankly, I think the UFO docs probably prove nothing except that most people are fatuous, gullible fools ready to believe everything but the truth - maybe the money people feel that it's more important for the people to believe in a UFO conspiracy rather than to take too close a look at what the money people are doing.

I don't know, you'd have to ask them.

Though, frankly, I think the UFO docs probably prove nothing except that most people are fatuous, gullible fools ready to believe everything but the truth - maybe the money people feel that it's more important for the people to believe in a UFO conspiracy rather than to take too close a look at what the money people are doing.

So, its like "Look at the shiny object instead of the man behind the curtain" deal?

But what would they gain from suppressing UFO documents?

a sense of security from the government.

*cue mass panic as people are abducted from their homes with no way way to stop it*

But what would they gain from suppressing UFO documents?

Well, there's not much you can do about a UFO, whereas creating the possibility that those objects were advanced enemy aircraft makes it that much easier to get funds for developing new weapons and aircraft of your own. Personally, I doubt that UFOs exist in the traditional sense, although it's not impossible that there were potential extraterrestrial events that ultimately influenced our own technology.

although it's not impossible that there were potential extraterrestrial events that ultimately influenced our own technology.

I don't know about that it all seems pretty straight forward to me (and its not like we could back engineer the technology without changing pretty much everything we have such as power)

You just discovered InfoWars or something then?

well there is, sort of, but it isn't really all that well hidden if you know what to look for. little things like colonels who give orders to generals and so on.

the problem is with what its subservient to, and that is concentration of symbolic value, which ultimately, while greatly inconveniencing and even threatening everything else, gratifys absolutely nothing.