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It never ends... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/mar/25/social-networking-sites-monitored)

"Prime Minister! Mr. Smith just broke up with Ms. Green!"
"What a shame... They made such a nice couple."

ever seen V For Vendetta?

"Prime Minister! Mr. Smith just broke up with Ms. Green!"
"What a shame... They made such a nice couple."

To be honest, I agree; it's petty to call this fascism.

Besides, social networks are beginning to hegemonize on what was once a much freer order, and generally one more reliant on actually, y'know, going outside and talking to people?

Yeah, so if anything, it's a positive step in disincentivising the use of social networking sites, which are, if anything, fascist in themselves. (This especially applies to Murdoch's MySpace)

Also, they're boringly trivial.

ever seen V For Vendetta?

I'll happily accept a fascist UK if it means we get to blow up parliament.

I'll happily accept a fascist UK if it means we get to blow up parliament.

lol

Do you live in the UK? Do you work in the UK? If not just don't move their and don't worry about it.

I think the Home Office has lost touch. Also, if Brown wants to have any chance of getting re-elected, this is the worst thing for him.

What kind of terrorists are using Facebook or Myspace chats to pass information anyway? Are they terrorizing the pubs on weekends with alcohol-fueled violence? Are they striking fear into the hearts of those who harbor some optimism for humanity's future with their inanity and immaturity?

Frankly, Brown will not get re-elected. Not after all this.

But to call this fascism... Seems a bit knee-jerk.

Although it is somewhat authoritarian.

To be honest, I agree; it's petty to call this fascism.

Besides, social networks are beginning to hegemonize on what was once a much freer order, and generally one more reliant on actually, y'know, going outside and talking to people?

Yeah, so if anything, it's a positive step in disincentivising the use of social networking sites, which are, if anything, fascist in themselves. (This especially applies to Murdoch's MySpace)

Also, they're boringly trivial.

Is it petty to call this fascism? Yes. Is it a needless, inefficient, and completely idiotic act, as well as arguably being a privacy violation? Yes. Are these sites stupid? To me, yes. To many people, no. Ours are not the only opinions. And how are those sites fascist themselves?

ever seen V For Vendetta?
Yeah it was pish. And also a far more extreme version of what we have going on today -_-

Yeah it was pish. And also a far more extreme version of what we have going on today -_-

I rather liked the Comic. Sorry, 'Graphic Novel'.:D

I rather liked the Comic. Sorry, 'Graphic Novel'.:D
Meh.

Is it petty to call this fascism? Yes. Is it a needless, inefficient, and completely idiotic act, as well as arguably being a privacy violation? Yes. Are these sites stupid? To me, yes. To many people, no. Ours are not the only opinions. And how are those sites fascist themselves?

By reinforcing the acceptance of an increasing social disconnection in society; on the one hand you meet other 'people', but 'people' become far more limited in their expression to those profiles.

I like how the Home office says they don't know if Bin Laden is talking on Facebook.

I wonder how many friends he has on his facebook profile?

Do you think his status says something like "Osama Bin Laden is planning an attack on the 2012 London Olympics"? :p

But yeah I'm not really a big fan on governments checking up on their citizens all the time.

I like how the Home office says they don't know if Bin Laden is talking on Facebook.

I wonder how many friends he has on his facebook profile?
It's how we know where to send the Predators in Pakistan :D
Do you think his status says something like "Osama Bin Laden is planning an attack on the 2012 London Olympics"? :p
Global Event - Random Party

:D

By reinforcing the acceptance of an increasing social disconnection in society; on the one hand you meet other 'people', but 'people' become far more limited in their expression to those profiles.

This from a man posting on an internet forum.

It's how we know where to send the Predators in Pakistan :D

Global Event - Random Party

:D

LOL

or

Bin Laden became a fan of Suicide bombing

Bin Laden joined the group "I bet I can find 1 million people who hate US Imperialism."

:D

And they call us fascist.....

This from a man posting on an internet forum.

Internet forum =/= social networking site.

And they call us fascist.....
FEMA camps versus Facebook conversations, CLASH OF THE TITANS.

This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Like the internet filter our amazingly stupid government wants to put on all Australians.

FEMA camps versus Facebook conversations, CLASH OF THE TITANS.

Lmao :)

But, seriously, I wanna know what thats all about, Ive heard the term before, yet, we had ALOT of FEMA involvement down here, and we didnt have anything like that, unless you count the little trailer parks that were for people without homes...

Actually, those people are fighting desperately to hold on to them, which, for the record Im in support of, I think its pretty shitty to take their homes from them, AGAIN...

Frankly, Brown will not get re-elected. Not after all this.

But to call this fascism... Seems a bit knee-jerk.

Although it is somewhat authoritarian.

Then there's also the omnipresent security cameras, the coming national I.D. cards, the draconian "anti-terror" laws, and this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4987415/All-travel-plans-to-be-tracked-by-Government.html).

I think the Home Office has lost touch. Also, if Brown wants to have any chance of getting re-elected, this is the worst thing for him.

I think getting re-elected could well be the least of his worries.

Then there's also the omnipresent security cameras, the coming national I.D. cards, the draconian "anti-terror" laws, and this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4987415/All-travel-plans-to-be-tracked-by-Government.html).

Yep, The UK is fast becoming a shit hole next the government will want us to provide them with what we plan on eating for the day.

Yep, The UK is fast becoming a shit hole next the government will want us to provide them with what we plan on eating for the day.

I wouldn't go that far. :eek2:

This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Like the internet filter our amazingly stupid government wants to put on all Australians.

It's for your own good. You might use the internet to look up stuff they don't want you to see, and that could cause panic.

News should only come from sanctioned quasi-governmental sources.

It's for your own good. You might use the internet to look up stuff they don't want you to see, and that could cause panic.

News should only come from sanctioned quasi-governmental sources.

You know, I usually think i can trust the BBC...


This can throw off my whole perception of reality....seriously, it throws my admiration of Britain on its head, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FASCISTS!!!

How about Britain under the complete domination of the OMRLP? That would make for an interesting graphic novel.

ever seen V For Vendetta?

Ever read it?

You know, I usually think i can trust the BBC...


The BBC is full of people with axes to grind. Just the way it is.

Still what can you expect from something that really got its start in a big way as a propaganda arm.

What kind of terrorists are using Facebook or Myspace chats to pass information anyway? Are they terrorizing the pubs on weekends with alcohol-fueled violence? Are they striking fear into the hearts of those who harbor some optimism for humanity's future with their inanity and immaturity?

Glasgow city police have already been monitoring such sites to cut down on gang violence, etc

Edit : Link to similar (http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Police-target-200-children-in.4143722.jp)

I think the Home Office has lost touch. Also, if Brown wants to have any chance of getting re-elected, this is the worst thing for him.

Perhaps he has realised that and so is preparing to not have any elections. I for one don't welcome our new Brown overlord.


Who is that at the door.....

We are the most surveillanced state in the world.

In the Houses of Parliament, there is no longer a choice, only different shades of Right-Wing, all playing at attacking each other for the management of essentially the same policy as each other before adjourning to scoff and drink in the same old pal's clubs and to jaunt about multi-billionaire's yachts.

Society is dead, as people will knife each other for a fiver, and people can die alone in their flats and not be discovered dead for a year and a half.


People don't have time to care for their neighbour, not even knowing their name, or not even caring.

Too busy stepping on other people's necks, and worshipping vapid, narcisstic celebrities, wanting the new car, wanting the new big television, now, now, now.


Keeping up with the Jones', have two cars, dog, kids, they're the ultimate fashion accessory.


Feral kids run riot on the streets while feral politicians take us on illegal global trips of war on the coat tails on a mad bunch of neo-cons in The White House, setting a wonderful example.

People spotting trains or those that survived the holocaust and then tell a government minister he is talking rubbish at a party conference can be arrested on anti-terrorism laws, and manhandled away, out of sight.

The swindlers, pillagers and murderers are on the streets and in the seats of power, and more and more civil and political freedoms are being curtailed.


Soon, everything about you will be on record. Everything. You will not be able to escape the machine, you will not be able to escape big brother.


But I have nothing to hide, you miserably whine, I have nothing to fear.


Let yourselves be under the observance of the murderers, swindlers and pillagers then, those that take you on illegal wars, those that feed from the golden troughs and who will ruthlessly deal with anyone in their way, anyone who opposes them.


I won't stand in their way, I'll get on with my life, you cowardly slobber, but to them you are just a cog in the machine, they will do with you as they see fit.


They know everything about you after all. You can not escape. Your hide is theirs. Pawn. Pawned. Pwned.

I'm curious to know if anyone thinks this is worse than the phone monitoring, that we know has been going on in most countries for years?

I'm curious to know if anyone thinks this is worse than the phone monitoring, that we know has been going on in most countries for years?

Essentially no form of communication is treated as private. All forms of electronic communication are monitored. How effective a method this actually is would be something I would like to know - I suspect it costs an enormous amount to very little effect. This Ben Goldacre article seems to suggest this would be the case

http://www.badscience.net/2009/02/datamining-would-be-lovely-if-it-worked/

This sort of thing doesn't bother me at all. I really don't care if anyone reads my Facebook pages. All the Govt will find out is what films I like and what I had for tea. I've also heard they are using it to track benefit cheats (people claiming single benefit but actually married) - I'm all for this if it stops some of societies leeches.
I really don't think the Govt expects to stop terrorism through Facebook, but is sending the message out that they are using ALL methods available to make their communication difficult.

I'll happily accept a fascist UK if it means we get to blow up parliament.


I'm sigging this hahahaha

*confusing and retarded rant*
Aye aye feral children and such. Seen a few around Hull, actually, stabbing people for rabies tablets and such.

OH NO WAIT I HAVEN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE CHATTING SHIT.

Glasgow city police have already been monitoring such sites to cut down on gang violence, etc

Edit : Link to similar (http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Police-target-200-children-in.4143722.jp)

Right. That's the sort of thing you might actually find on such sites.

Full-blown plots to incinerate several city blocks are rather less likely to be found. Those sorts of terrorists cells are generally far more discrete.

Aye aye feral children and such. Seen a few around Hull, actually, stabbing people for rabies tablets and such.

OH NO WAIT I HAVEN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE CHATTING SHIT.


Live in a nice area then don't you? That or you carry a white stick and have a guide dog.

No kids where you are to terrify elderly people at night in their homes, or threatening people with knifes, being piss and coke heads or attacking people for no reason.


Not that adults set a good example, or politicians.


Oh, and here's some advice: typing in capitals does not distract from the fact you don't know what you are talking about.


If anyone's chatting shit......well look in the mirror for a starter.

Condescending, Daily Mirror-style snip

You're talking bollocks. Whilst I admit that some young people are totally out of control, and many more than in recent years, it's not like they're on every street corner in gangs of hundreds, beating to death everyone that walks past.

Aye aye feral children and such. Seen a few around Hull, actually, stabbing people for rabies tablets and such.

OH NO WAIT I HAVEN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE CHATTING SHIT.

*knifes Yootopia for a fiver*

Live in a nice area then don't you? That or you carry a white stick and have a guide dog.

No kids where you are to terrify elderly people at night in their homes, or threatening people with knifes, being piss and coke heads or attacking people for no reason.


Not that adults set a good example, or politicians.


Oh, and here's some advice: typing in capitals does not distract from the fact you don't know what you are talking about.


If anyone's chatting shit......well look in the mirror for a starter.

I'm tempted to cry 'troll'; this blatantly attacks my age demographic and if I didn't know any better, I'd quite rightly vilely verbally retaliate.

And no, I live in one of the shittiest areas in Scotland; it's still relatively quiet to the vile you spew. That's probably the most violent and ferality-inspired bile I've seen all day; it had to come from a person who attacks the youth based on the same claims of their behavior. Hypocritical much?

What kind of terrorists are using Facebook or Myspace chats to pass information anyway? Are they terrorizing the pubs on weekends with alcohol-fueled violence? Are they striking fear into the hearts of those who harbor some optimism for humanity's future with their inanity and immaturity?
"hey bro. want 2 meet at qigleys tonite and plan sum suicid bombings?"
It could happen.

ever seen V For Vendetta?
That's a great movie :D Seriously, though, it may come to that in some Western nations if governments keep taking away more rights of their citizens.

Live in a nice area then don't you?
No, I live on a street which is famous for being nasty in Hull.

*knifes Yootopia for a fiver*
You're Jewish, so that's to be expected regardless of the state of society :tongue:

You're Jewish, so that's to be expected regardless of the state of society :tongue:

Hydesland's Jewish? Well that certainly would explain a lot.

No, I live on a street which is famous for being nasty in Hull.

Ouch... that's gotta be bad.

This said I'm living next to a bail hostel... though really it's York so you can't really get bad areas.

Ouch... that's gotta be bad.
It's Not As Bad As All That.
This said I'm living next to a bail hostel... though really it's York so you can't really get bad areas.
You in Tang Hall then?

I feel sorry for the cops that had to actually wade through that flith.

It's Not As Bad As All That.

You in Tang Hall then?

Nope, along Walmgate - the Yacro centre is right by the Early Music Learning Centre (and not a lot of people know that). TBH they're all on their best behaviour so near to the hostel, so never really have any problems.

Never lived in Tang Hall, never really want to - or Acomb for that matter, where all the Tang Hall kiddies go when they grow up and get real criminal records.

Nope, along Walmgate - the Yacro centre is right by the Early Music Learning Centre (and not a lot of people know that). TBH they're all on their best behaviour so near to the hostel, so never really have any problems.
Aye the bail hostel types are usually alright.
Never lived in Tang Hall, never really want to - or Acomb for that matter, where all the Tang Hall kiddies go when they grow up and get real criminal records.
That or Clifton.

That or Clifton.

I did some work for York probation service a while back - I now know all the places in York I don't want to live :D