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So I have noticed that their are a lot of cat lovers on this forum, so it leads me to make this thread about you and those who don't like cats.

Other people are dog lovers, while others like both.

I am not a cat lover, I dislike cats quite a bit. I find them very needy and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place. Another reason why I hate cats is because they kill native wildlife (birds, small animals) some of these are endangered and when the cats go after them it does get me quite mad. One of the reasons why I would join a friend and go out into the outback and shoot feral cats. Those cats weren't your average domestic cats these cats were massive and very vicious which would wreck the native environment. I dislike domestic cats doing this as well, but then that may be some owners who allow their cats to do this.

Is this a problem in other parts of the world?

So tell us NSG why you like or dislike cats or dogs.

So I have noticed that their are a lot of cat lovers on this forum, so it leads me to make this thread about you and those who don't like cats.

Other people are dog lovers, while others like both.

I am not a cat lover, I dislike cats quite a bit. I find them very needy and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place. Another reason why I hate cats is because they kill native wildlife (birds, small animals) some of these are endangered and when the cats go after them it does get me quite mad. One of the reasons why I would join a friend and go out into the outback and shoot feral cats. Those cats weren't your average domestic cats these cats were massive and very viscous which would wreck the native environment. I dislike domestic cats doing this as well, but then that may be some owners who allow their cats to do this.

Is this a problem in other parts of the world?

So tell us NSG why you like or dislike cats or dogs.

I like cats because they are a whole lot less needy than dogs.
Also, no, they don't endanger any wildlife here. The wildlife here grew up with predators.

I don't dislike dogs, but a cat suits my lifestyle. For one thing, I live in a third storey walk-up and would have little patience for taking a dog up and down those stairs four (or more) times a day to pee. Litterboxes ftw.

I also know I can leave my cat alone overnight, or a weekend if need be, and she can look after herself so long as there's food and water out, and clean litter.

I prefer dogs, and not the little ones.

I prefer medium to large breed dogs (60 to 100 pounds).

I don't find them to be "needy".

If someone breaks into my apartment, my dog will eat them. Cats are useless in that regard, unless you fling them at the intruder.

I like cats because they are a whole lot less needy than dogs.
Also, no, they don't endanger any wildlife here. The wildlife here grew up with predators.

Except for snakes:p

I actually forgot to post why I like dogs over cats, mainly because I find them a lot more loyal and appreciative of you whereas cats seem to expect that you should be feeding them dogs in their own way at least say thank you. I find a dog will defend you where as a cat will say see you later, you can fix that on your own.

Yes I am a strange and twisted person why do you ask?

I don't like pets, period. I don't think that it's because of any half-assed "it's cruel to the animals" or "it's not natural" schtick, like some other objections I've seen in the past (although I have a strange aversion to the idea of birds kept in cages), but I just don't like them. I'm sure that a lot of people find having pet cats or dogs to be comforting, or enjoyable or interesting in some way, but it just doesn't float my boat.

I have a specific dislike of pet dogs, simply because of the sheer volume of dogshit that some of their owners allow their pets to leave lying around in the street or in the park. Around where I live I've noticed it getting a lot worse over the last couple of years for some reason, and it pisses me off no end.

i like both but i like cats more. dogs are fine as long as they are not big and barky.

Except for snakes:p

I actually forgot to post why I like dogs over cats, mainly because I find them a lot more loyal and appreciative of you whereas cats seem to expect that you should be feeding them dogs in their own way at least say thank you. I find a dog will defend you where as a cat will say see you later, you can fix that on your own.

Yes I am a strange and twisted person why do you ask?

I find cats more... normal that way. I don't like the sort of loyalty dogs display. But that's just me.
With cats, I feel like there's an agreement : I feed them, I get to cuddle with them. Nothing more required than that. And I tend to defend myself, thanks. ;)

cats are somewhat boring. I want a pet that actually enjoys being around me as much as I enjoy being around it. None of this "Oh, I want to pet you!" *gets eye clawed out* or "zzzzzzzzzzzzz" *gets head butted because the damn thing finally decided it needs me for 5 minutes because it lacks opposible thumbs*

I don't get people who say cats have more personality either. Being bitchy and independent isn't personality.

cats are somewhat boring. I want a pet that actually enjoys being around me as much as I enjoy being around it. None of this "Oh, I want to pet you!" *gets eye clawed out* or "zzzzzzzzzzzzz" *gets head butted because the damn thing finally decided it needs me for 5 minutes because it lacks opposible thumbs*

I don't get people who say cats have more personality either. Being bitchy and independent isn't personality.

Hey, that's all my personality, so :p

Dogs are dumbed down wolves. Literally dumbed down wolves - over the course of domestication, their brains shrunk, relatively to total weight.

I cannot get myself to respect or like such, well... Down-syndrome'd animals whose reliance on human assistance is, by now, hard-coded into them. I may as well keep a robot. The robot wont even shit around.

I find cats more... normal that way. I don't like the sort of loyalty dogs display. But that's just me.
With cats, I feel like there's an agreement : I feed them, I get to cuddle with them. Nothing more required than that.

Yeah I know this is all down to lies/dislikes and opinion. No real right or wrong answer.

And I tend to defend myself, thanks. ;)

Yeah, but I am a weak and feeble man who needs a big strong dog to protect me from the evils outside. :D

I don't dislike dogs, but a cat suits my lifestyle. For one thing, I live in a third storey walk-up and would have little patience for taking a dog up and down those stairs four (or more) times a day to pee. Litterboxes ftw.

I also know I can leave my cat alone overnight, or a weekend if need be, and she can look after herself so long as there's food and water out, and clean litter.

I love both animals, but I'm more of a cat person. I only had one typical cat, Amelia is not your typical cat. She doesn't act like she owns the house, she's actually very skittish, and she is just a sweetheart and loves your company. I love it when she jumps up on the bed at night, and sleep on top of me.

As for protection, I'm sorry but I don't need protection, that what I got house alarm and guns for.

Hey, that's all my personality, so :p
It's my sisters too ;)
Dogs are dumbed down wolves. Literally dumbed down wolves - over the course of domestication, their brains shrunk, relatively to total weightAnd yet, dogs still rank as one of the most intelligent creatures...

I cannot get myself to respect or like such, well... Down-syndrome'd animals whose reliance on human assistance is, by now, hard-coded into them. I may as well keep a robot. The robot wont even shit around.
Dogs don't need humans to survive. Feral dogs exist...look to the dingo which is thought to have come from domestic stock.

Lover would be crossing the line. I like cats.

Dogs are dumbed down wolves. Literally dumbed down wolves - over the course of domestication, their brains shrunk, relatively to total weight.

I cannot get myself to respect or like such, well... Down-syndrome'd animals whose reliance on human assistance is, by now, hard-coded into them. I may as well keep a robot. The robot wont even shit around.
juvenile wolves. i saw that in a book. they look like young wolves. floppy ears and blunt noses are on some domestic dogs life-long, as well as baby wolves. they also act wolf puppies, bark and wag tails

Dogs don't need humans to survive. Feral dogs exist...look to the dingo which is thought to have come from domestic stock.

SOME dogs, yes. If I look at my moms Pekinese furry rat, I doubt it would get very far in the wilderness....

One of the things I like about cats is that they are independent oriented. You can ignore them for most of the day, which is good for my kind of personality. I can't pay constant attention to something, my mind is always wandering.

SOME dogs, yes. If I look at my moms Pekinese furry rat, I doubt it would get very far in the wilderness....

A hawk would probably pick it up and eat it. :D

As for protection, I'm sorry but I don't need protection, that what I got house alarm and guns for.

Yeah, I don't know what other people's neighbourhoods are like, but where I come from I'm more likely to need a mouser than an attack dog.

SOME dogs, yes. If I look at my moms Pekinese furry rat, I doubt it would get very far in the wilderness....

There are quite a few cats that couldn't as well...that cat that looks like its face was smashed into a wall for example

There are quite a few cats that couldn't as well...that cat that looks like its face was smashed into a wall for example

True.... ugly bastards. I don't like those very much, to be honest. A common moggey will do me fine, thanks.

So I have noticed that their are a lot of cat lovers on this forum, so it leads me to make this thread about you and those who don't like cats.

Other people are dog lovers, while others like both.

I am not a cat lover, I dislike cats quite a bit. I find them very needy and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place.

I love how people hold cats in contempt because they consider them arrogant. And I would love to here how exactly a cat strolls to convey the attitude that "they own the place."

Of course, many people would dismiss the very notion as foolish anthropomorphism, but I have my own theory. I think a lot of those people who find cats arrogant prefer dogs because they like an animal that slobbers on you and does tricks, and detest the notion of a more independent creature as a pet. Though in actual fact, cats and dogs can both have a wide range of personalities. I've known cats that are rather aloof, and others that will gladly curl up in your lap while you rub their belly. When their not tearing around clawing at things.

Another reason why I hate cats is because they kill native wildlife (birds, small animals) some of these are endangered and when the cats go after them it does get me quite mad.

Its called instinct. Cats hunt because that's how they've managed to survive. But I suppose they should be expected to know which species are endangered and refrain from hunting them.:rolleyes:

One of the reasons why I would join a friend and go out into the outback and shoot feral cats. Those cats weren't your average domestic cats these cats were massive and very viscous which would wreck the native environment.

Ok, stop right their.

1. You go out shooting cats because they might harm the ecosystem? What gives you more right to shoot those cats than the cats have to hunt birds?

2. I'm willing to bet you were violating animal cruelty laws in doing so, though it probably depends on the jurisdiction.

You don't know how much I wanted to flame you to a degree that would risk permanent banning.:mad:

-snip-

*Puts a fluffy kitty in TRR lap*

Cats rule.....dogs drool

I have 3 cats and we have a mutually rewarding relationship. I feed them and in return they claw at my furniture and leave cat hair on the pillows.

Walking dogs is exercise for people who enjoy picking up warm excrement

Seriously though, I would love a dog but don't have the time to look after one properly.

Does anyone else suspect that Conservatives prefer dogs to cats and Coke to Pepsi? Also, if any of y'all like cats come and take one or more of the hundreds that roam the streets of my town causing noise and mayhem.

Slight preference for dogs, as I had one.

So I have noticed that their are a lot of cat lovers on this forum, so it leads me to make this thread about you and those who don't like cats.

Other people are dog lovers, while others like both.

I am not a cat lover, I dislike cats quite a bit. I find them very needy and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place. Another reason why I hate cats is because they kill native wildlife (birds, small animals) some of these are endangered and when the cats go after them it does get me quite mad. One of the reasons why I would join a friend and go out into the outback and shoot feral cats. Those cats weren't your average domestic cats these cats were massive and very viscous which would wreck the native environment. I dislike domestic cats doing this as well, but then that may be some owners who allow their cats to do this.

Is this a problem in other parts of the world?

So tell us NSG why you like or dislike cats or dogs.

Cats have destroyed our local rabbit population.

Does anyone else suspect that Conservatives prefer dogs to cats and Coke to Pepsi? Also, if any of y'all like cats come and take one or more of the hundreds that roam the streets of my town causing noise and mayhem.

Possibly... I know there's been some psychological studies in that direction.

And I took one cat from the animal shelter here, can't accomodate more I'm afraid, otherwise I would.

Cats have destroyed our local rabbit population.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/unknown_exception/gaf/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

Cats rule.....dogs drool

I have 3 cats and we have a mutually rewarding relationship. I feed them and in return they claw at my furniture and leave cat hair on the pillows.

Walking dogs is exercise for people who enjoy picking up warm excrement

Seriously though, I would love a dog but don't have the time to look after one properly.

That's a fair point. I think a lot of people find cats off-putting because of their independence, but they are probably easier to take care of, in general, than a dog (at least a big dog).

Also, if a cat gets pissed at you, it can't do much more than a few scratches. If a big dog gets pissed at you, it can tear your throat out.

Cats have destroyed our local rabbit population.

Lucky you... here, rabbits destroy natural habitat.

Lucky you... here, rabbits destroy natural habitat.

Yep, they're nasty little bastards. Haven't you read Watership Down?:)

Also, if any of y'all like cats come and take one or more of the hundreds that roam the streets of my town causing noise and mayhem.

That's how I got Pushkin (well, probably not from your town). I don't really have room for another, though.

I love how people... ...at things.

Did you miss the post where I said I was strange.

Its called instinct. Cats hunt because that's how they've managed to survive. But I suppose they should be expected to know which species are endangered and refrain from hunting them.:rolleyes:

Yep that is exactly what I was saying too. I was giving you a reason why I don't like cats since the Australian ecosystem is a delicate ecosystem and I want it to be protected and not allowed to be wrecked by Imperialists who come into a new country and decide to unleash what they bring with them and destroying this beautiful land in the first place. As for the domestic cats, I did say that is more of a blight on their owners rather than the cats themselves. The owners should know better.

Ok, stop right their.

1. You go out shooting cats because they might harm the ecosystem? What gives you more right to shoot those cats than the cats have to hunt birds?

2. I'm willing to bet you were violating animal cruelty laws in doing so, though it probably depends on the jurisdiction.

You don't know how much I wanted to flame you to a degree that would risk permanent banning.:mad:

1. They are feral cats, they are pests in the ecosystem and cause more destruction on the ecosystem and native wildlife then me killing a few cats in an attempt to protect the environment from external sources destroying our unique ecosystem.

2. Actually since feral cats are pests I am allowed by the government to shoot them just as I am allowed to kill rabbits (also pests in Australia) and cane toads also an introduced species. So yes I will kill feral cats because they bring large damage on the local environment and I want to protect that. I do believe it is illegal to kill a cat that is a pet to someone.

Those cats weren't your average domestic cats these cats were massive and very viscous

Oily cats!


Btw, I deeply dislike two kinds of dogs:
-the "attack breeds" like the Rottweiler, the Pitbull etc.
-those I call "cansorcio" (that is rat-dog), like the Chihuahua etc. Annoying little hysterical bastards.

Lucky you... here, rabbits destroy natural habitat.

Ha! Amateurs!
Here in Milan, we destroyed the natural habitat ourselves before some pest could destroy it... sort of Russian retreat tactics.

:(

Oily cats!

lol that's how they managed to slip away.

Depends on how they are cooked.

Did you miss the post where I said I was strange.

I guess so.

Yep that is exactly what I was saying too. I was giving you a reason why I don't like cats since the Australian ecosystem is a delicate ecosystem and I want it to be protected and not allowed to be wrecked by Imperialists who come into a new country and decide to unleash what they bring with them and destroying this beautiful land in the first place.

Yeah, Australia has a bit of an unusual situation in that respect. And I know their laws are hyper strict about foreign pest species. But its not really the cat's fault. Just blasting away at feral cats hardly seems like an ideal solution. And I know it sounds corny, but if you have a cat, the thought of blasting one away just seems wrong.

As for the domestic cats, I did say that is more of a blight on their owners rather than the cats themselves. The owners should know better.

Yes, I suppose they should. But that's nothing to blame the cats for. Indeed, one of the things I like about cats is their hunting skill. They're probably the only domestic animal that bring to mind the word "competant."

1. They are feral cats, they are pests in the ecosystem and cause more destruction on the ecosystem and native wildlife then me killing a few cats in an attempt to protect the environment from external sources destroying our unique ecosystem.

Well I don't want the Australian ecosystem being wrecked. But I don't want cats getting shot for being cats, either.

2. Actually since feral cats are pests I am allowed by the government to shoot them just as I am allowed to kill rabbits (also pests in Australia) and cane toads also an introduced species. So yes I will kill feral cats because they bring large damage on the local environment and I want to protect that. I do believe it is illegal to kill a cat that is a pet to someone.

Legal, fine. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Yeah, Australia has a bit of an unusual situation in that respect. And I know their laws are hyper strict about foreign pest species. But its not really the cat's fault. Just blasting away at feral cats hardly seems like an ideal solution. And I know it sounds corny, but if you have a cat, the thought of blasting one away just seems wrong.

Finding the females so they are unable to continue to breed does certainly help it. I know that some do lay poisons for both feral cats and dogs in the wild which they will eat (amazingly native wildlife doesn't actually go for it) where they will die later on. It maybe less painful then shooting them.

Yes, I suppose they should. But that's nothing to blame the cats for. Indeed, one of the things I like about cats is their hunting skill. They're probably the only domestic animal that bring to mind the word "competant."

Well I don't want the Australian ecosystem being wrecked. But I don't want cats getting shot for being cats, either.

Legal, fine. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Indeed they won't be killed simply because they are cats and I just don't like them but rather because they are pests and the reasons why they along with rabbits and cane toads must be exterminated.

I know you don't have to like it and I do apologise if I have upset you over these actions, I didn't intend to cause distress. But it is because they do kill native wildlife that does also happen to be endangered I feel they must be dealt with. Sorry about being graphic and bringing emotions up but yes I do feel that way because I have a more emotional attachment to the native wildlife than an introduced animal.

I love cats. Adore cats. Am well on my way to becoming a crazy cat lady ...

Finding the females so they are unable to continue to breed does certainly help it. I know that some do lay poisons for both feral cats and dogs in the wild which they will eat (amazingly native wildlife doesn't actually go for it) where they will die later on. It maybe less painful then shooting them.



Indeed they won't be killed simply because they are cats and I just don't like them but rather because they are pests and the reasons why they along with rabbits and cane toads must be exterminated.

Well, if I misinterpreted or misrepresented any of your statements, I apologise.

I know you don't have to like it and I do apologise if I have upset you over these actions, I didn't intend to cause distress. But it is because they do kill native wildlife that does also happen to be endangered I feel they must be dealt with. Sorry about being graphic and bringing emotions up but yes I do feel that way because I have a more emotional attachment to the native wildlife than an introduced animal.

"Distress" wouldn't be quite the right word. Its not like I'm going to spend the day crying about it. "Indignation" and "anger" sound more accurate.

I understand the reason. I just don't like it, and don't feel its right to be shooting cats for basically following their natural instincts.

Well, if I misinterpreted or misrepresented any of your statements, I apologise.

Nah that's alright, mate I don't always express myself that clearly.

"Distress" wouldn't be quite the right word. Its not like I'm going to spend the day crying about it. "Indignation" and "anger" sound more accurate.

I understand the reason. I just don't like it, and don't feel its right to be shooting cats for basically following their natural instincts.

Well accept my apologies anyway, if you choose to.

I understand your reasons against it too, but as I say I wouldn't shoot them smply for following instincts but because tey are an introduced species that do damage te enviroment. If they were apart of the ecosystem then I wouldn't be typing about how I have shot them.

Tarantulas.

They're quiet, they don't stink, they don't require shots or licensing, you don't have to have them spayed/neutered, they take up no space, they're harmless (unless you're allergic) and they're inexpensive.

What's not to like?

Cats by far.

While I have refrained from voting on the grounds that each cat and dog has their own personality and that it would be foolish to say that I like all dogs or all cats, I am pleased to see that cats are getting their due.:)

I like both, and have had both as pets, but I'm definitely more of a dog person. My dear mutt is the best companion anyone could wish for - sweet, loving, smart, and absolutely hilarious.

Dogs. Biased because my family owns a dog and I've been surrounded by dogs all my life as Aunts and Uncles have had dogs.

My family has it's first ever dog, An Irish Staff called Lucky! My sister chose the name and she's only 11... He is 10 months old, playful but also independent. Most of the time he will explore around the house or the garden for hours and when he has had enough he will come up to one of us and either sit with us or try to play.

He is friendly to strangers, so will probably suck as a guard dog well unless the burglar tries to attack a member of the family. He is protective like that.

I'm not against cats but having never had one as a pet I can't really comment on them.

Tarantulas.

They're quiet, they don't stink, they don't require shots or licensing, you don't have to have them spayed/neutered, they take up no space, they're harmless (unless you're allergic) and they're inexpensive.

What's not to like?

Beside the fact that they're spiders?

Yes I have a fear of Spiders...esp. hairy ones...

I like cats and dogs, but the tiny yippy dogs can get annoying. I have two cats at home and they are so lovable. But they don't play as much as dogs do. They only hang when they want to. But I still love them. :)

So I have noticed that their are a lot of cat lovers on this forum, so it leads me to make this thread about you and those who don't like cats.

Other people are dog lovers, while others like both.

I am not a cat lover, I dislike cats quite a bit. I find them very needy and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place. Another reason why I hate cats is because they kill native wildlife (birds, small animals) some of these are endangered and when the cats go after them it does get me quite mad. One of the reasons why I would join a friend and go out into the outback and shoot feral cats. Those cats weren't your average domestic cats these cats were massive and very vicious which would wreck the native environment. I dislike domestic cats doing this as well, but then that may be some owners who allow their cats to do this.

Is this a problem in other parts of the world?

So tell us NSG why you like or dislike cats or dogs.

I like both, I love neither.

Yep, they're nasty little bastards. Haven't you read Watership Down?:)

I read Watership Down. The only thing I recall about it was that the author used the word warren a lot. I never knew that rabbits lived in warrens. I always thought they were pretty homeless. Our local rabbits seem to not really have a lair of any sort. The again our rabbits are mighty few and far between thanks to all of the darn strays or as my wife and I refer to them, "garbage cats".

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/unknown_exception/gaf/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

I loved the Futurama picture but I just dont get it.

Possibly... I know there's been some psychological studies in that direction.


I had no idea that others shared my possibly warped and twisted view that Conservatives prefer Coke to Pepsi and Dogs to cats. Perhaps my release from the loony bin is imminent! Yeah I am a Coke drinking, dog loving white socks conservative.

Voted neither; I find animals to be annoying as all hell.

Tarantulas.

They're quiet, they don't stink, they don't require shots or licensing, you don't have to have them spayed/neutered, they take up no space, they're harmless (unless you're allergic) and they're inexpensive.

What's not to like?

Spiders are kinda neat, though. Scorpions too.

I find them very needy
i find them less needy than dogs. they don't pretend to love you, like dogs; the don't need walks, like dogs; they don't need to be washed, like dogs; they don't need to be cleaned up after, like dogs. to me, they are independent, intelligent animals, and i like to respect that. i liked to see our (ex-) cat as a part of the family, with the same independence and respect as the rest of us, not just some dumb, slobbering pet.

and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place.
what's wrong with that?
I dislike domestic cats doing this as well, but then that may be some owners who allow their cats to do this.

we did. our cat would often bring back dead rabbits, birds and other assorted wildlife when we lived in the country. when we moved to this city, he'd still do it if he could, even up until he was old (16 years). to me, letting him do that was part of his independence. not many endangered species living round here anyway.


in short, i love cats. apart from all of the above, i also think they're way cuter than dogs, even puppies. and they're quieter. i happen to also be allergic to dogs.

Tarantulas.

They're quiet, they don't stink, they don't require shots or licensing, you don't have to have them spayed/neutered, they take up no space, they're harmless (unless you're allergic) and they're inexpensive.

What's not to like?

And if you keep a tarantula and a ball python in terrariums above your safe, their mere presence may scare more would-be thieves than a pit bull. :D

I prefer cats over dogs. I detest the small "toy" breeds in general, and only a few individual dogs of that type escape my disgust. I tolerate larger breeds, but they also view the entire planet as their toilet and they leave larger piles when they do their business. They also tend to drool. I don't buy the argument that some dog breeds are naturally vicious - my observations indicate that it is the owner, not the dog itself, that is at fault in most attacks, and I've seen enough bad-tempered retrievers and labs to verify that.

Cats, on the other hand, are small, generally quiet, and productive. They keep the gophers out of the garden and keep the rats out of the henhouse. They can bury their scat. And a lap cat and a good book are the two best possible companions during a cold winter evening.

Cats have destroyed our local rabbit population.

How would you know? Do you run around counting rabbits in your neighborhood and chart their death rates over the years and autopsy them to determine cause of death was cats and not dogs or disease?

The fact that cats are doing better in the poll seems to show that NSG has a liberal bias. Y'all are a bunch of Pepsi drinkers aintcha?

The fact that cats are doing better in the poll seems to show that NSG has a liberal bias. Y'all are a bunch of Pepsi drinkers aintcha?

I hate both Coke and Pepsi, and prefer Dr. Pepper. What does that make me? :tongue:

I hate both Coke and Pepsi, and prefer Dr. Pepper. What does that make me? :tongue:

It makes you thirsty if only Coke and Pepsi are available.

I'm very allergic to cats, so I have hypoallergenic dogs instead. I think that makes me a dog person.

And if you keep a tarantula and a ball python in terrariums above your safe, their mere presence may scare more would-be thieves than a pit bull. :D

I prefer cats over dogs. I detest the small "toy" breeds in general, and only a few individual dogs of that type escape my disgust. I tolerate larger breeds, but they also view the entire planet as their toilet and they leave larger piles when they do their business. They also tend to drool. I don't buy the argument that some dog breeds are naturally vicious - my observations indicate that it is the owner, not the dog itself, that is at fault in most attacks, and I've seen enough bad-tempered retrievers and labs to verify that.

Cats, on the other hand, are small, generally quiet, and productive. They keep the gophers out of the garden and keep the rats out of the henhouse. They can bury their scat. And a lap cat and a good book are the two best possible companions during a cold winter evening.

Especially if you keep two terrariums: One labeled 'Tarantula' with a tarantula in it and a broken empty terrarium labeled '18 foot burmese python'. :D

The fact that cats are doing better in the poll seems to show that NSG has a liberal bias. Y'all are a bunch of Pepsi drinkers aintcha?

I drink Dr Pepper. :)

The fact that cats are doing better in the poll seems to show that NSG has a liberal bias. Y'all are a bunch of Pepsi drinkers aintcha?

I prefer root beer.

Cats definitely. Dogs are ok, but they're high-maintenance. Cats aren't needy, they're actually fairly self-sufficient. When I had the flu recently, I was damned glad I had cats. I put a huge bowl of dry food out and some water, poured extra sand in the litter boxes and did nothing else for three days. They actually figured out that I was sick and left me pretty much alone - except when I had chills, then they came and cuddled with me.

I've had dogs. Even when you're sick and puking your guts out, you have to walk them two or three times a day, if you don't, they leave gifts which you have to clean up (yes, I know, litterboxes have to be cleaned, but that's all in one place, not strewn over the house). If you put three days worth of dry food out, they'll eat it all at once, making themselves sick, giving you something else to clean up).

Don't misunderstand, I like dogs, I just like cats better.

The fact that cats are doing better in the poll seems to show that NSG has a liberal bias. Y'all are a bunch of Pepsi drinkers aintcha?

Well I do like Cats and Pepsi, but I'm a Libertarian.

I also like the way that cats that I've own over the years, somehow figured out that I take my hearing aid off at night, so they find a way to wake me up without meowing.

Sara would lick my hair, Amelia somehow gets me petting her in my sleep and I wake up from that, she also playfully nibbles me to get me up.

Well, I've never had either one. But, I prefer cats due to the fact a friend of mine has two cats.

The fact that cats are doing better in the poll seems to show that NSG has a liberal bias. Y'all are a bunch of Pepsi drinkers aintcha?

I prefer coke. And, not to offend any people who like Dr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper sucks.

Cats definitely. Dogs are ok, but they're high-maintenance. Cats aren't needy, they're actually fairly self-sufficient. When I had the flu recently, I was damned glad I had cats. I put a huge bowl of dry food out and some water, poured extra sand in the litter boxes and did nothing else for three days. They actually figured out that I was sick and left me pretty much alone - except when I had chills, then they came and cuddled with me.

awww, my cat used to do that. he'd come keep me company whenever i was ill, but leave me alone when i needed to sleep.

yes, I know, litterboxes have to be cleaned, but that's all in one place, not strewn over the house

we have a garden and a catflap, so no litterboxes for us. he'd dig a hole, do his business, and cover it back up again. helped the flowers grow, lol :P

i'd actually not get a cat unless i had a garden for it to go out in. doesn't seem right for a cat to be stuck indoors, to me

Yeah. With my family cat, we didn't just want him roaming the streets because it was dangerous (we lived on the second floor in an apartment when we got him), so we got a cat leash (yes, their is such a thing) and took him for walks, but he never really seemed to like it and would try to escape whenever he could. A few years later we got a house with a nice fenced yard, so we let him go out their a lot. But yes, definitely better to have a nice place for the cat to go outside.

I prefer my cat/dog hybrid.

OK, in reality, I prefer cats.

Well I do like Cats and Pepsi, but I'm a Libertarian.

I like Dogs and Coke, and I'm a Libertarian. Both sides of the spectrum, eh?

I dislike both. I see them as wastes of time and money for the owner. Of course that's simply because I don't generally enjoy their company, but if I had to choose, definitely cats, they are far less annoying and seem less likely to fatally attack anyone.

I like Dogs and Coke, and I'm a Libertarian. Both sides of the spectrum, eh?

Yep, which is what makes Libertarians so awesome. :D

So I have noticed that their are a lot of cat lovers on this forum, so it leads me to make this thread about you and those who don't like cats.

Other people are dog lovers, while others like both.

I am not a cat lover, I dislike cats quite a bit. I find them very needy and seem to stroll around the place like they own the place. Another reason why I hate cats is because they kill native wildlife (birds, small animals) some of these are endangered and when the cats go after them it does get me quite mad.

Cats are only dangerous to wildlife if you're a completely irresponsible pet owner who lets your cat outside without supervision.

Edit: Dogs are equally dangerous to wild life in the same situation.

Cats are only dangerous to wildlife if you're a completely irresponsible pet owner who lets your cat outside without supervision.

Edit: Dogs are equally dangerous to wild life in the same situation.

Well in all fairness, cats are fast. They can be on top of anything almost before you notice. Though they'll often stalk for a while, so you'll have a chance to stop them.

I prefer dogs. I do like cats, but I'm mildly allergic to them.

1. You go out shooting cats because they might harm the ecosystem? What gives you more right to shoot those cats than the cats have to hunt birds?

Less right actually, unlike the cats and the birds I doubt the OP is eating the cats. There are really only two things I ask of a hunter, be sporting about it and either eat your kill or give it to someone who will.

I like cats and dogs, but the tiny yippy dogs can get annoying.

I have a theory that those are actually small rodents in disguise. Or that the owners are buying their dog on an installment plan and can't afford the rest of the animal yet.

I dislike both. I see them as wastes of time and money for the owner. Of course that's simply because I don't generally enjoy their company, but if I had to choose, definitely cats, they are far less annoying and seem less likely to fatally attack anyone.

Im glad you feel qualified to tell others what a waste of time and money is for them.

I much prefer cats, but I do have a soft spot in my heart for huskies.

I prefer my cat/dog hybrid.

Does it have the loyalty of a cat and the cleanliness of a dog?

Well in all fairness, cats are fast. They can be on top of anything almost before you notice. Though they'll often stalk for a while, so you'll have a chance to stop them.

Ours goes out on a leash actually, so she doesn't get a chance. Our other cat was a stray and more afraid of the room with no ceiling and that big glowing ball than a WOW player who lives in his moms basement.

Im glad you feel qualified to tell others what a waste of time and money is for them.

Actually I don't you'll notice I never told anyone to get rid of their dog or cat. I was just voicing my view, of the effect of a cat or dog. I don't value the animals therefore they are a waste. Amazingly enough, people can have differing opinions and I don't give a shit what others do with their own time and money.

Amazingly enough, people can have differing opinions and I don't give a shit what others do with their own time and money.

:eek: Heresy! :eek:

Definitely dogs.

It's a well-known fact that all cats are evil. Of course, all dogs are good in order to compensate the Great Universal Balance.

Its called instinct. Cats hunt because that's how they've managed to survive. But I suppose they should be expected to know which species are endangered and refrain from hunting them.:rolleyes:it's no different than any other introduced pet species. In areas that lack native cats, cats are a huge burden on the ecosystem. Same with dogs, but for some reason, dogs tend to have less of an impact, from what I've seen (cats take out native birds very quickly). It isn't the fault of the animal, but it is something that needs to be addressed.



Ok, stop right their.

1. You go out shooting cats because they might harm the ecosystem? What gives you more right to shoot those cats than the cats have to hunt birds?The fact that they are not native. Same as how it is okay for me to kill green crabs on the beaches of Connecticut because they are invasive and killing off native crabs that are important to the environment.

Of course, the flip side to this argument is that every animal was invasive at some point, and given enough time, they will become naturalized.

2. I'm willing to bet you were violating animal cruelty laws in doing so, though it probably depends on the jurisdiction.how would hunting feral cats be any different than hunting any other animal? Just because it is something standardly thought of as a pet?

i find them less needy than dogs. they don't pretend to love you, like dogs; the don't need walks, like dogs; they don't need to be washed, like dogs; they don't need to be cleaned up after, like dogs. to me, they are independent, intelligent animals, and i like to respect that. i liked to see our (ex-) cat as a part of the family, with the same independence and respect as the rest of us, not just some dumb, slobbering pet.I don't know that dogs pretend to love anyone...it is part of their pack mentality. They aren't faking it to impress us...it's just part of their nature. Dogs also tend to be highly intelligent, as do cats. Just because dogs slobber doesn't make them stupid ;)

we did. our cat would often bring back dead rabbits, birds and other assorted wildlife when we lived in the country. when we moved to this city, he'd still do it if he could, even up until he was old (16 years). to me, letting him do that was part of his independence. not many endangered species living round here anyway. Our cats regularly bring back animals. But they've started a fun new game where they just stun the animal, then let it free in the house. There was appearently a recent incident with a baby squirrel the other day.


in short, i love cats. apart from all of the above, i also think they're way cuter than dogs, even puppies. and they're quieter. i happen to also be allergic to dogs.
Yeah, sneezing every time the animal is near may have an impact upon its cuteness score...haha
For me, my cats were loud, woke up insanely early and headbutted me untill I woke up. One learned to meow "hello". At 3 AM. They were pretty much like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ffwDYo00Q). Don't get me wrong...I love my cats, but at the same time hate them. I had nothing but love for my dog, and can't wait to get one up here.

I'm generally more fond of dogs. But I voted I like them the same. I've had a cat for years now.. don't plan on getting another dog til I move probably.

I like them about the same as I like children: fine if they are quiet and well behaved and don't have to stay, better from a distance.

Furry pets aren't for me, I've found. They require too much. Especially dogs. Cats are too hard to read. I can't stand that 90% of the cats I've been in contact with are fully willing to curl up against you, let you pet them and then without wraning reduce your arm to ground beef and dart off. What is so hard about simply getting up and walking away? And dogs have 0 respect for personal space. I have yet to meet a dog that wasn't ancient that didn't try to flying leap me to the ground in over exuberance.

I prefer reptiles. Or tarantulas. I'm still upset that I had to give up my snake and my spider, but when moving into a specifically no pets house, I could manage to convince the landlord to allow two small, no noise, no smell lizards, but I wasn't about to temp things by mentioning a snake and a spider too X3

If I had to choose it would be cat....I love my kitties

I like both, but I like dogs more. I prefer large dogs, but there are actually quite a few small dogs that are awesome.

I like both, but I like dogs more. I prefer large dogs, but there are actually quite a few small dogs that are awesome.

I've had terriers, and they are awesome. They're bred to hunt vermin and other small animals, and they're good at it. Domina (my generic terrier) kept my yard free of gophers and mice until the day she died - she was almost as good a mouser as my cats.

Cats generally smell better, are smarter and more independent. As for security - I have far better deterrents then either guns or attack dogs in my house. Burglars run away screaming for their mommy.

I like cats for their independence and dogs for how loving they can be.

I voted cat. I like dogs but I live alone in a flat and a dog is inappropriate. My cat copes quite well (so far as I can tell).

Cats generally smell better, are smarter and more independent. As for security - I have far better deterrents then either guns or attack dogs in my house. Burglars run away screaming for their mommy.
I'll give you the smell and the independence, but as far as intelligence goes, both species are very intelligent, with alot depending upon specific breed.

I've had dogs. Even when you're sick and puking your guts out, you have to walk them two or three times a day, if you don't, they leave gifts which you have to clean up (yes, I know, litterboxes have to be cleaned, but that's all in one place, not strewn over the house). If you put three days worth of dry food out, they'll eat it all at once, making themselves sick, giving you something else to clean up).

I suppose my bias must come in with regards to this. My dog actually does all his business in the same place, at the back of the garden under a low lying shrub. Never had to clean up his mess as it is where will never go anyway, never any on the lawn. We didn't even have to teach him to do this, it was something he did automatically.

If I remember correctly isn't the cat problem in australia due to cats being brought in to control the rabbit population which was destroying the delicate ecosystem?

And dingos are not simply lately come feral dogs.

The Dingo (Canis lupus dingo) also known as Warrigal, Maliki, Mirigung, Decker Dog, Boololomo, Repeti, or Australian Native Dog, is a feral dog which mostly lives independently from humans. It is generally thought to originate from a population of domesticated dogs, possibly at a single occasion during the Austronesian expansion into Southeast Asia.[3] Though commonly described as an Australian wild dog, it is not restricted to Australia, nor did it originate there and is in fact a feral domestic dog rather than a separate species.[4] Modern dingoes are found throughout Southeast Asia, mostly in small pockets of remaining natural forest, and in mainland Australia, particularly in the north. They have features in common with both wolves and modern dogs, and are regarded as more or less unchanged descendants of an early ancestor of modern dogs

Feral dogs are a huge danger in that they have no fear of man. But a first generation feral dogs- a dog dumped / abandoned by its owners, run away lives a very short life due to the fact that neither domestic dogs - or cats- natively know how to hunt. They have hunting instincts, BUT instinct does not come anyehere near the learning to hunt at their mothers side (or with a pack in the case of dogs ).

I have done animal rescue for years, and I know where of I speak.

On the myth of cats and birds - birding, the hunting of birds is a specialized skill that is hard learned and almost always taught one generation to the next.

I have know only one feral cat that was consistantly able to survive on his prowess as a birder. And he had developed the moves to take a bird on a wing. 99.99% of all birds will wing away whenever potentially encountering any predator. None others of the colony could manage his skills, and lived on rodents and dumpster diving.

If I remember correctly isn't the cat problem in australia due to cats being brought in to control the rabbit population which was destroying the delicate ecosystem?

And dingos are not simply lately come feral dogs.

Wouldn't surprise me if they were brought in for that reason. The cane toad was brought in to control the cane beetle population. The cane toad has now also turned into a pest and wrecking havoc on the Queensland environment and is spreading into New South wales and the Northern Territory.

As for the dingo, while it may be a feral dog it is not an intorduced species but rather has been on Australian soil for many hundreds of years.

oh far more than hundreds of years. Some of the information I have puts them back at 2,000 to 3,000 plus years ago - based on Austronesian expansion into Southeast Asia dates.

I sincerely think that qualifies them as a 'native species'

oh far more than hundreds of years. Some of the information I have puts them back at 2,000 to 3,000 plus years ago - based on Austronesian expansion into Southeast Asia dates.

I sincerely think that qualifies them as a 'native species'

Well that was my point the Dingo is a native animal to Australia.

I also plan to get a bird in the future. They are cool pets. My grandma use to have parakeets .. my mom had one too when I was little. But I will probably get some sort of small parrot or this other bird I use to like dealing with when I worked in a pet shop.. I can't remember what kind it was now, but I'd know it when I see it.

Birds need a lot of attention though.. but so do dogs. I will have to be ready for that when I get either.

I've had terriers, and they are awesome. They're bred to hunt vermin and other small animals, and they're good at it. Domina (my generic terrier) kept my yard free of gophers and mice until the day she died - she was almost as good a mouser as my cats.

I had an awesome Australian Terrier for 17 years (from age 1 to 18) who was an adept rabbit hunter. I miss that dog.

About intelligence between cats and dogs...

I heard, dunno where, that dogs were equivelent to...2-3 year old human kids and cats were only equivelent to about a year and half year old, or something like that.

I love cats. I love that they can come and go as they please. I love that they are so affectionate. I love that they are so aloof.

awww, my cat used to do that. he'd come keep me company whenever i was ill, but leave me alone when i needed to sleep.



Yeah, my cat does that too. Quoth my ex-gf: "Maybe she's waiting for you to die so she can eat your body".

How would you know? Do you run around counting rabbits in your neighborhood and chart their death rates over the years and autopsy them to determine cause of death was cats and not dogs or disease?

My former neighbor used to trap stray cats and take them out of town and kill them (dont worry he was humane about it). Back then there were plenty of rabbits sighted in my yard and about town. Then he left and three years later we have a lot of stray cats and no bunnies sighted. I even have a vegetable garden in my backyard that I set up to share my veggies with the poor little cute bunnies. I used to get rabbits there frequently back when the cats were hunted. Now I haven't seen one at all. :(

I hate both Coke and Pepsi, and prefer Dr. Pepper. What does that make me? :tongue:

I don't know. Ahhh I got it! You are a Dr. Pepper drinker.

Well I do like Cats and Pepsi, but I'm a Libertarian.

I am a Libertarian oriented Republican and I spit on Pepsi pyuhh pyuhh pyuhh (pyuhh is supposed to be the sound of my spitting).

My former neighbor used to trap stray cats and take them out of town and kill them (dont worry he was humane about it). Back then there were plenty of rabbits sighted in my yard and about town.

*shudder* Rabbits are horrid creatures.

*shudder* Rabbits are horrid creatures.

*faints in horror at the thought that someone is anti wittle bunny wabbit*

*faints in horror at the thought that someone is anti wittle bunny wabbit*

Sorry, but they're basically long-eared rats. They're filthy, they breed uncontrollably, they're horrible animals.

*shudder* Rabbits are horrid creatures.

Me and me dad raised rabbits for years when I was younger.

Started off with my first rabbit from my brother .. I named him Snuggles. When he got older he use to chase my moms poodle, and other dogs that came visiting around the yard. He was tough! We of course got a female for him to mate. I remember bringing a batch of bunnies in the house once and I put them all on my smurf sleeping bag .. they were all just hopping everywhere around me. I was so happy lol. I will never forget that.

Also saw a rough rabbit pregnancy, but I will refrain.

Rabbits? the wild ones are fun to watch, and so are the hawks that prey on them - we have both in my neighborhood.

I like cats.

They're independent, they don't smell and you have to earn their love. They also play in ways which don't involve dealing with drool and are funny around catnip.

Plus they do adorable things like hide in boxes and paper bags.

Mine is currently hiding in a box. I keep it there because he likes it. :)

I like cats.

They're independent, they don't smell and you have to earn their love. They also play in ways which don't involve dealing with drool and are funny around catnip.

Plus they do adorable things like hide in boxes and paper bags.

Mine is currently hiding in a box. I keep it there because he likes it. :)


haha yeah no matter what kind of 'cool cat toy' you try to push on them.. they still prefer regular ole stuff.

I use to think they just preferd stuff we mess with , like when we bring home groceries (bags).. or we get stuff out of a box (pop tarts .. crackers).

But my cat does still like balls with bells in them. I'll hear her at least once a week playing in the kitchen all by herself. So far they're the only 'cat toy' she will continue to play with.

*shudder* Rabbits are horrid creatures.

No, no rabbits are tasty creatures.

No, no rabbits are tasty creatures.

I have yet to eat one. I would try it tho. My dad use to tell me of him and his brothers catching and skinning em for his mom when they were young. I'd probably like rabbit.

I have yet to eat one. I would try it tho. My dad use to tell me of him and his brothers catching and skinning em for his mom when they were young. I'd probably like rabbit.

It tastes good, but runs right through you. Yes, I did.

I had an awesome Australian Terrier for 17 years (from age 1 to 18) who was an adept rabbit hunter. I miss that dog.

About intelligence between cats and dogs...

I heard, dunno where, that dogs were equivelent to...2-3 year old human kids and cats were only equivelent to about a year and half year old, or something like that.

I don't know where you heard that, but I'd question it. I'd say they're about equally intelligent, just with different types of intelligence. I'd say the biggest difference has to do with trainability. Dogs can be easily trained because they're pack animals and so, have an inherent desire to cooperate(there are, of course, exceptions). Cats aren't pack animals, they're solitary hunters, cooperation isn't in their makeup, they can learn on their own, though.

I don't like pets, period. I don't think that it's because of any half-assed "it's cruel to the animals" or "it's not natural" schtick, like some other objections I've seen in the past (although I have a strange aversion to the idea of birds kept in cages), but I just don't like them. I'm sure that a lot of people find having pet cats or dogs to be comforting, or enjoyable or interesting in some way, but it just doesn't float my boat.

I have a specific dislike of pet dogs, simply because of the sheer volume of dogshit that some of their owners allow their pets to leave lying around in the street or in the park. Around where I live I've noticed it getting a lot worse over the last couple of years for some reason, and it pisses me off no end.

Dogs are dumbed down wolves. Literally dumbed down wolves - over the course of domestication, their brains shrunk, relatively to total weight.

I cannot get myself to respect or like such, well... Down-syndrome'd animals whose reliance on human assistance is, by now, hard-coded into them. I may as well keep a robot. The robot wont even shit around.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj181/Anndrayabelle/Macro/funny-dog-pictures-caring-dog-is-he.jpg

*shudder* Rabbits are horrid creatures.

http://www.collegebeing.com/uploads/2007/08/you-make-bunny-cry.jpg

As for me, I greatly prefer cats...they take up less space, make less noise, need less care, smell better, are easier to clean up after, can be left alone without worry, and most importantly, are independent minded.

No, no rabbits are tasty creatures.

Meh. We had a rabbit feature one night back in my kitchen days. I tried a bit...tasted like chicken.

I grew up in a household with cats, so I'm comfortable with them in general, but I can never get past the feeling that cats have a low opinion of me.

I've never had a dog and regard them as "high-maintenance" animals. I don't know if that's accurate or not. I like dogs but wouldn't feel confident about owning one.

I loved my hedgehog. I also want a pet rabbit.

I grew up in a household with cats, so I'm comfortable with them in general, but I can never get past the feeling that cats have a low opinion of me.

I've never had a dog and regard them as "high-maintenance" animals. I don't know if that's accurate or not. I like dogs but wouldn't feel confident about owning one.

I loved my hedgehog. I also want a pet rabbit.

I won't argue that. Dogs are high maintenance animals. They're clever creatures and will learn what to do etc.

For example my dog has now learnt that when he needs to go to the toilet he will sit by the patio door with his paw on it until someone lets him out to go.

However dogs are massive risk takers and will do anything so constant supervision is needed to stop them from injuring themselves.

I prefer dogs, and not the little ones.

I prefer medium to large breed dogs (60 to 100 pounds).

I don't find them to be "needy"....

Exactly. I was raised around dogs and have always had a dog and big ones too. (labs, boxers and sheppards)