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http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/03/16/imus.prostate.cancer/index.html

Sympathy is rapidly beginning to form because nobody deserves prostate cancer, but I thought under the circumstances that it would be deeply fitting to open with an inappropriate remark. Imus would understand. :tongue:

I hope everything works out in the end.

Ugh, cancer. That's not something I'd want anyone to suffer through.

Sympathy is rapidly beginning to form because nobody deserves prostate cancer,

I don't get this.

I know I'm supposed to express sympathy for the poor guy, but really...I don't believe in an afterlife, I don't believe there is any supernatural force that will mete out justice in the Hereafter, and I believe that what happens here on Earth is all there is for us. This means that a great deal of the time I have to watch good things happen for bad people, and I just have to suck it up because that's how the world is. If, every once in a while, a genuinely horrible person has something bad happen to them, I don't see why I should pretend that I feel sad about it. :P

I don't get this.

I know I'm supposed to express sympathy for the poor guy, but really...I don't believe in an afterlife, I don't believe there is any supernatural force that will mete out justice in the Hereafter, and I believe that what happens here on Earth is all there is for us. This means that a great deal of the time I have to watch good things happen for bad people, and I just have to suck it up because that's how the world is. If, every once in a while, a genuinely horrible person has something bad happen to them, I don't see why I should pretend that I feel sad about it. :P

Well, I don't think he's horrible enough to deserve cancer. Few people are. If one believes in Karma, I would say he got slammed pretty hard by it.

Well, I don't think he's horrible enough to deserve cancer. Few people are. If one believes in Karma, I would say he got slammed pretty hard by it.

So he got fucked in the ass by karma?

So he got fucked in the ass by karma?

Without lubricant. *nod*

If, every once in a while, a genuinely horrible person has something bad happen to them, I don't see why I should pretend that I feel sad about it. :P
I wouldn't say that Imus is a genuinely horrible person. He's an unfunny dickhead, yeah. Racist and sexist too, and he is several times wealthier and more famous than he deserves to be.
However, no one has ever died, gotten a serious disease, lost their house, been arrested, beaten or raped because of Imus's actions (not even as an indirect result). He even does some charity work (cancer kids, I think).
On the whole, I give him a C- and recommend reincarnation as a great ape of some sort.

I wouldn't say that Imus is a genuinely horrible person. He's an unfunny dickhead, yeah. Racist and sexist too, and he is several times wealthier and more famous than he deserves to be.
However, no one has ever died, gotten a serious disease, lost their house, been arrested, beaten or raped because of Imus's actions (not even as an indirect result). He even does some charity work (cancer kids, I think).
On the whole, I give him a C- and recommend reincarnation as a great ape of some sort.

Maybe a lemur.

Well, I don't think he's horrible enough to deserve cancer. Few people are.
I guess I disagree on that.

Imus is rich. He is going to enjoy the best possible care. I'm not saying cancer is fun, but frankly he's going to have a much better time of it than the overwhelming majority of humans on the planet.

I don't get this.

I know I'm supposed to express sympathy for the poor guy, but really...I don't believe in an afterlife, I don't believe there is any supernatural force that will mete out justice in the Hereafter, and I believe that what happens here on Earth is all there is for us. This means that a great deal of the time I have to watch good things happen for bad people, and I just have to suck it up because that's how the world is. If, every once in a while, a genuinely horrible person has something bad happen to them, I don't see why I should pretend that I feel sad about it. :P

because human suffering is human suffering, regardless of how we feel about that particular person.

because human suffering is human suffering, regardless of how we feel about that particular person.
Um...so?

Yeah, suffering is suffering. I believe it's a "bad thing" if an innocent man is sent to prison and endures all the associated suffering therein, yet it's not a "bad thing" if a guilty man experiences the same fate. Indeed, I believe that part of the POINT of prison is to be a non-joyful experience for the incarcerated; if going to prison didn't involve some degree of "suffering" then it wouldn't really work.

I'm totally okay with admitting that I believe some people deserve to suffer and other people don't.

Um...so?

Yeah, suffering is suffering. I believe it's a "bad thing" if an innocent man is sent to prison and endures all the associated suffering therein, yet it's not a "bad thing" if a guilty man experiences the same fate. Indeed, I believe that part of the POINT of prison is to be a non-joyful experience for the incarcerated; if going to prison didn't involve some degree of "suffering" then it wouldn't really work.

I'm totally okay with admitting that I believe some people deserve to suffer and other people don't.

I often take great joy in the pain and suffering inflicted on those that patently deserve it. If he had say, fallen down a flight of stairs and fractured his jaw, I would giggle for hours at the delicious poetry of it. But I must admit that I have difficulty enjoying cancer.

Um...so?

Yeah, suffering is suffering. I believe it's a "bad thing" if an innocent man is sent to prison and endures all the associated suffering therein, yet it's not a "bad thing" if a guilty man experiences the same fate. Indeed, I believe that part of the POINT of prison is to be a non-joyful experience for the incarcerated; if going to prison didn't involve some degree of "suffering" then it wouldn't really work.

I'm totally okay with admitting that I believe some people deserve to suffer and other people don't.

But what does it accomplish for a bad person to suffer, in and of itself? Nothing I can see, except to apparently give people like you a vindictive pleasure in their pain. Pointless sadism.

Anyways, given my ignorance of the man, I'd like to know what Mr. Imas has done to make him so deserving of suffering in your eyes, as opposed to the rest of the human race.

But what does it accomplish for a bad person to suffer, in and of itself? Nothing I can see, except to apparently give people like you a vindictive pleasure in their pain. Pointless sadism.
Oh come off it.

When I was a kid and I was naughty, I got put in Time Out. Time Out was a chair in the corner. I suffered in that damn chair. I couldn't talk, or move around, or play with my toys.

And I learned that being naughty meant that there were unhappy consequences.

It wasn't "pointless sadism" for my parents to make me suffer in that manner. It had a very specific point: to get me to knock it the hell off.

I view prison as the same fundamental concept. If going to prison were just as fun as not going to prison, then there'd be no point in trying to use it as a penalty.

Punishments serve a function. Whether or not you AGREE with that function, and whether or not you think the particular punishment in question is EFFECTIVE, is a whole other subject. But to claim that any and all suffering is pointless would be simply dishonest (or stupid, take your pick).

I don't get off on watching anybody suffer. I wouldn't want to watch footage of Imus in pain or something. I simply don't feel SAD about Don Imus having cancer. I think he's a lousy person and I think that, in the end, he's going to enjoy a much better life than he deserves. I don't feel remotely sorry for him and I don't have any sympathy for his situation.


Anyways, given my ignorance of the man, I'd like to know what Mr. Imas has done to make him so deserving of suffering in your eyes, as opposed to the rest of the human race.
That's okay, I'll let you keep talking to your strawmen. Y'all seem to be having a great time. :D

He is a radio DJ and used to have a pretty good morning show but every now then he says the wrong thing about someone and gets taken to task. He made an unfortunate comment about a women's basketball team. Which gave Rev. Al Sharpton much need publicity. I belive the comment was "nappy headed hoe". Anyway the stuff hit the fan and he lost his job for a few weeks and then he got it back.

I don't think anyone deserves cancer. I wish him well. Very sad.

I hope everything works out in the end.

Heh :p