NationStates Jolt Archive


Bride Sale

Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 05:18
The girls here look like they're actually enjoying themselves.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1160669/On-market-Teenage-Gypsy-girls-glam-annual-bride-sale.html
Ashmoria
15-03-2009, 05:21
who doesnt like dressing up and showing off?

although some of those girls look like 5 year olds who got into mommy's makeup kit.
Pope Lando II
15-03-2009, 05:28
My grandparents on one side met through a matchmaker hired by both families to ensure genetic "purity" and, more importantly I'm sure, financial security for them both. It's not the way I'd do things, and it's not what I'd want for my (hypothetical) son or daughter, but it's not the worst thing that can happen, I guess. Couples meet sort of haphazardly anyway, from what I've seen, though I've never tried meeting anyone myself, so maybe it's more systematized than it looks.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 05:47
Those are women?
greed and death
15-03-2009, 05:49
are the gold teeth just for style ? or do they have a lack of toothpaste there?

and for teens those girls are kinda chubby. I thought Americans were fat.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 05:50
My grandparents on one side met through a matchmaker hired by both families to ensure genetic "purity" and, more importantly I'm sure, financial security for them both. It's not the way I'd do things, and it's not what I'd want for my (hypothetical) son or daughter, but it's not the worst thing that can happen, I guess. Couples meet sort of haphazardly anyway, from what I've seen, though I've never tried meeting anyone myself, so maybe it's more systematized than it looks.

You can hire a matchmaker? Hmmm...

*Goes to Google*
Vault 10
15-03-2009, 05:52
TBH, they'd have to pay me if I was to consider marrying any of them.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 05:56
You can hire a matchmaker? Hmmm...

*Goes to Google*

funny story about that in Korea. While i was visiting Korea last time one of my female friend's parents had hired a match maker for her daughter. (she is almost 30 so they want her to get married). Of course they didn't tell her she just thought they were setting her up on dates. It came out when she told one of the guys she wasn't looking for marriage yet. And he complained to his mom, who then complained to the match maker who then complained to my friend's mom.

That was a fun argument to be sitting in the kitchen eating breakfast for. Wish I knew more of the swear words they used. Damn Daegu Dialect of Korean and its swear words.
Chumblywumbly
15-03-2009, 06:00
Real gold teeth, too.

Can't be that good for munching on stuff.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:01
Real gold teeth, too.

Can't be that good for munching on stuff.

hopefully they were put in my a dentist. amateur installed gold teeth can give you a nasty nick when you get a blow job.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:03
funny story about that in Korea. While i was visiting Korea last time one of my female friend's parents had hired a match maker for her daughter. (she is almost 30 so they want her to get married). Of course they didn't tell her she just thought they were setting her up on dates. It came out when she told one of the guys she wasn't looking for marriage yet. And he complained to his mom, who then complained to the match maker who then complained to my friend's mom.

That was a fun argument to be sitting in the kitchen eating breakfast for. Wish I knew more of the swear words they used. Damn Daegu Dialect of Korean and its swear words.

lol, I bet that was fun. I think my parents has given up on me ever finding anyone. Ah well.
Chumblywumbly
15-03-2009, 06:04
Those are women?
Hush, you.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:05
Hush, you.

1. Waaayyy too much make up, I mean Jeezus...

2. Hooray for Mass Prostitution! "You buy my daughter for how much?"

3. I could probably find someone there.

4. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way?
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 06:08
1. Waaayyy too much make up, I mean Jeezus...

2. Hooray for Mass Prostitution! "You buy my daughter for how much?"

3. I could probably find someone there.

4. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way?

Are you rich? You're American, you're rich (even with the bad economy), you'll find someone there. She'll have gold teeth and breasts hanging to her knees by the time she's 36 (you did see the picture of her mom, didn't you?).
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:10
Are you rich? You're American, you're rich (even with the bad economy), you'll find someone there. She'll have gold teeth and breasts hanging to her knees by the time she's 36 (you did see the picture of her mom, didn't you?).

*laughs* Ahh that is bad...Eh maybe I'll just stay single and leave it to the Universe. If someone comes into my life, great, if not, then that's ok too.
Pope Lando II
15-03-2009, 06:10
You can hire a matchmaker? Hmmm...

*Goes to Google*

It's not exactly an obscure topic. :tongue: Matchmaking is the norm in a lot of cultures around the world. It was common in the U.S. up until the 1960s or thereabouts, especially among immigrants, and is still done now and then. The number of professional matchmakers has probably dropped sharply since the '60s, and with the disintegration of homogenous neighborhoods, but you could probably find one fairly easily.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:11
It's not exactly an obscure topic. :tongue: Matchmaking is the norm in a lot of cultures around the world. It was common in the U.S. up until the 1960s or thereabouts, especially among immigrants, and is still done now and then. The number of professional matchmakers has probably dropped sharply since the '60s, and with the disintegration of homogenous neighborhoods, but you could probably find one fairly easily.

Eh I just want to find a woman who's as reclusive and as Misanthropic as I am. :D
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:12
Eh I just want to find a woman who's as reclusive and as Misanthropic as I am. :D

the internet is the place for you then.
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 06:13
Eh I just want to find a woman who's as reclusive and as Misanthropic as I am. :D

Sorry, I'm 40 years older than you. And I'm so misanthropic and reclusive that I'm not sure I want to find someone as reclusive and misanthropic as I am.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:14
Nice to see the EU at its finest.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:15
Are you rich? You're American, you're rich (even with the bad economy), you'll find someone there. She'll have gold teeth and breasts hanging to her knees by the time she's 36 (you did see the picture of her mom, didn't you?).

i have a feeling the boob dropage can be prevented by introducing her to a bra, and not making her have 8 kids.
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 06:17
i have a feeling the boob dropage can be prevented by introducing her to a bra, and not making her have 8 kids.

And the gold teeth could be prevented by introducing her to American dentists and dental hygiene.

And don't forget Jennie Craig.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:18
And the gold teeth could be prevented by introducing her to American dentists and dental hygiene.

And don't forget Jennie Craig.

so basically all problems are solved by bringing her back to the US. Of course with in two months she will expect you to take turns cooking and split the house chores with her.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:19
Hmm....I'm not seeing a downside to the Gypsies thing. But she may actually be people friendly and out going. *shudders*
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 06:21
so basically all problems are solved by bringing her back to the US. Of course with in two months she will expect you to take turns cooking and split the house chores with her.

And this is bad exactly why?
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:23
And this is bad exactly why?

Well (and I know this from personal experience), most guys go overseas to find women who are more "traditional". You know, they do all the cleaning, and house work and live and die by their husband. Also, they should open up their vagina anytime the husband want to fuck.

Personally I'm just trying to find a culture that is less shallow.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:27
And this is bad exactly why?

Well (and I know this from personal experience), most guys go overseas to find women who are more "traditional". You know, they do all the cleaning, and house work and live and die by their husband. Also, they should open up their vagina anytime the husband want to fuck.

Personally I'm just trying to find a culture that is less shallow.

not really bad just amusing. Guys tend to think that overseas women means more docile. From what i've seen it just means more Docile until marriage then the bitchiness comes. Modern women have learned tricking someone like that ends in divorce. So just be open about their demands form the git go.
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 06:27
Well (and I know this from personal experience), most guys go overseas to find women who are more "traditional". You know, they do all the cleaning, and house work and live and die by their husband. Also, they should open up their vagina anytime the husband want to fuck.

Personally I'm just trying to find a culture that is less shallow.

Could be you've been looking in all the wrong places. I may be wrong, but men spend a lot of time looking at pretty, vain, shallow girls and then bemoaning the fact that they are pretty, vain and shallow to other girls who are intelligent, pretty without vanity, and have thoughts more interesting than what color lipstick enhances their eyes. Then they wonder why the intelligent, interesting girls get tired of listening to them complain and go elsewhere.
Chumblywumbly
15-03-2009, 06:28
1. Waaayyy too much make up, I mean Jeezus...

2. Hooray for Mass Prostitution! "You buy my daughter for how much?"

3. I could probably find someone there.

4. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way?
I don't see how an of the above amounts to not-women.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:30
Could be you've been looking in all the wrong places. I may be wrong, but men spend a lot of time looking at pretty, vain, shallow girls and then bemoaning the fact that they are pretty, vain and shallow to other girls who are intelligent, pretty without vanity, and have thoughts more interesting than what color lipstick enhances their eyes. Then they wonder why the intelligent, interesting girls get tired of listening to them complain and go elsewhere.

i got to admit i prefer girls who don't wear makeup.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:31
Could be you've been looking in all the wrong places. I may be wrong, but men spend a lot of time looking at pretty, vain, shallow girls and then bemoaning the fact that they are pretty, vain and shallow to other girls who are intelligent, pretty without vanity, and have thoughts more interesting than what color lipstick enhances their eyes. Then they wonder why the intelligent, interesting girls get tired of listening to them complain and go elsewhere.

Eh, I think the main problem for me is 1. I've been looking on the internet, 2. I'm reclusive, which means I don't get out that much. I doubt the perfect woman for me is going to show up at my door step anytime soon. But I don't like to go to clubs or bars to be honest.

I avoid the pretty, vain, shallow girls because I know I have no chance with them.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 06:32
i got to admit i prefer girls who don't wear makeup.

Ditto for me.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 06:32
Eh, I think the main problem for me is 1. I've been looking on the internet, 2. I'm reclusive, which means I don't get out that much. I doubt the perfect woman for me is going to show up at my door step anytime soon. But I don't like to go to clubs or bars to be honest.

I avoid the pretty, vain, shallow girls because I know I have no chance with them.

try mountain hiking. where i met my current GF.
Dakini
15-03-2009, 06:37
i have a feeling the boob dropage can be prevented by introducing her to a bra, and not making her have 8 kids.

Actually, I recall reading about studies which indicated that bras don't prevent boob droopage, they just mask it. Maybe sports bras are useful for this, but not the everyday sort.
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 06:39
Actually, I recall reading about studies which indicated that bras don't prevent boob droopage, they just mask it. Maybe sports bras are useful for this, but not the everyday sort.

I should, perhaps, change my post from -

American dentists and dental hygiene

And Jenny Craig

and add - a good gym membership.
Pope Lando II
15-03-2009, 06:43
Could be you've been looking in all the wrong places. I may be wrong, but men spend a lot of time looking at pretty, vain, shallow girls and then bemoaning the fact that they are pretty, vain and shallow to other girls who are intelligent, pretty without vanity, and have thoughts more interesting than what color lipstick enhances their eyes. Then they wonder why the intelligent, interesting girls get tired of listening to them complain and go elsewhere.

Exactly. I don't understand the whining at all. I've never dated anyone or even made conversation with women, but I see intelligent, thoughtful women all the time, whether at work or when I was in school or any number of places. Women are invariably petty, overbearing, shallow and/or frigid... on television: I'm guessing that's where that bitterness comes from. Sit home all day feeling sorry for yourself and watching Flavor of Love on the preview channel, and next thing you know, you're Andrew Dice Clay (if anyone remembers him). :tongue:
Heinleinites
15-03-2009, 07:10
The girl in that first picture didn't look bad at all, but some of the rest were scary. Although if the girl with the gold teeth washed off all that makeup, she'd do alright.

As for the rest, it seems to be a fairly harmless tradition that the girls themselves look forward to, they do say variety is the spice of life, and we all know that 'the spice must flow...'
Pope Lando II
15-03-2009, 07:39
and we all know that 'the spice must flow...'

*groan*
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 07:52
*groan*

I don't get it.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 07:55
*groan*

I don't get it.

dune references make him groan.
Pope Lando II
15-03-2009, 07:58
dune references make him groan.

Contiguous cliches make me groan, not Dune in particular.
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 08:00
I still don't get what he meant by "the spice must flow"....
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-03-2009, 08:06
I still don't get what he meant by "the spice must flow"....

It would take too long to explain, and then it would no longer be funny (if it ever was). Have you read Frank Herbert's Dune? If not, you should.
Pope Lando II
15-03-2009, 08:07
I still don't get what he meant by "the spice must flow"....

Greed and death told you. It's an often-repeated phrase from a cult-favorite book.
Heinleinites
15-03-2009, 08:09
I still don't get what he meant by "the spice must flow"....

In the novel 'Dune' a substance known as 'spice' is found on only one planet in the universe. This 'spice' is what enables FTL travel and is also the cornerstone of the universal religion. Therefore, no disruption of the spice's production is tolerated by the Powers That Be. A common refrain throughout the novel is the phrase 'the spice must flow.'

When I used it, it was as a joke related to the immediately previous statement about variety being the spice of life.
Ryadn
15-03-2009, 09:08
Exactly. I don't understand the whining at all. I've never dated anyone or even made conversation with women,

...you've never had a conversation with a woman? We are still slightly over 50% of the population, right?
Pissarro
15-03-2009, 09:12
Contiguous cliches make me groan, not Dune in particular.

Yeah that was nauseating...
Blouman Empire
15-03-2009, 10:00
lol, I bet that was fun. I think my parents has given up on me ever finding anyone. Ah well.

Dude, you're only 24.

2. Hooray for Mass Prostitution! "You buy my daughter for how much?"

http://www.truffleshuffle.co.uk/store/images/thumb_cache/Blues_Btothers_How_Much_For_The_Women-T_220x180_220_180_76.jpg
greed and death
15-03-2009, 10:07
lol, I bet that was fun. I think my parents has given up on me ever finding anyone. Ah well.

your 24.
In Korea they rarely look for some to marry until they are 28 or 29ish.
And trust me even hint at your mom you would accept her help and she will start bringing girls by. You'd be surprised how good of a match the girls your mom picks out for you are.

shoot when i was in the army visiting Texas(home) from Maryland my mom tried to introduce me to a girl. I was like mom i barely have time to get to know her before i go back to the army.
Kyronea
15-03-2009, 10:57
The girls here look like they're actually enjoying themselves.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1160669/On-market-Teenage-Gypsy-girls-glam-annual-bride-sale.html

Too much makeup, but otherwise, many look quite beautiful. I always did like Roma ladies...:)

Of course, I find the idea of more or less essentially selling daughters like this to be extremely distasteful, offensive, and oppressive, but that's my view, not theirs.
SaintB
15-03-2009, 12:56
Could be you've been looking in all the wrong places. I may be wrong, but men spend a lot of time looking at pretty, vain, shallow girls and then bemoaning the fact that they are pretty, vain and shallow to other girls who are intelligent, pretty without vanity, and have thoughts more interesting than what color lipstick enhances their eyes. Then they wonder why the intelligent, interesting girls get tired of listening to them complain and go elsewhere.

I spend time complaining to my friends about how shallow those women are too. I chase them more often than the pretty ones and guess what? Still single. I'm not even bad looking.
SaintB
15-03-2009, 12:58
Of course, I find the idea of more or less essentially selling daughters like this to be extremely distasteful, offensive, and oppressive, but that's my view, not theirs.

I do too; I thought it was worse though it sort of sounds to me like they actually have a choice to say yes or no.
Dakini
15-03-2009, 14:23
I spend time complaining to my friends about how shallow those women are too. I chase them more often than the pretty ones and guess what? Still single. I'm not even bad looking.

Looks aren't everything. Indeed, they constitute a very small portion of what's important in a relationship.

Often the men I've dated have become more attractive (to me) as I got to know them. So not being bad looking does not mean that you'll get a date.
SaintB
15-03-2009, 14:30
Looks aren't everything. Indeed, they constitute a very small portion of what's important in a relationship.

Often the men I've dated have become more attractive (to me) as I got to know them. So not being bad looking does not mean that you'll get a date.

I know looks aren't everything, I'm making a statement about how shallow people are in general my dear Dakini. I used looks as an example because to many people thats become the most important thing; even to the people who don't find it important for themselves they oftene expect thier partner to look good.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 14:32
I do too; I thought it was worse though it sort of sounds to me like they actually have a choice to say yes or no.

needs to be investigated more. i am starting to wondering if the EU will take anyone in though.

what really concerns me is the lack of meeting non relatives they all deal with until marriage looking day. they have no clue of the difference between nice guy and asshole.
SaintB
15-03-2009, 14:37
needs to be investigated more. i am starting to wondering if the EU will take anyone in though.

what really concerns me is the lack of meeting non relatives they all deal with until marriage looking day. they have no clue of the difference between nice guy and asshole.

Most assuredly a con. The only real pro is they get to meet people... if these people weren't so insular they wouldn't have to do things like this, screw tradition thats just a euphimism for broken but never fixed.
Western Mercenary Unio
15-03-2009, 14:40
Most assuredly a con. The only real pro is they get to meet people... if these people weren't so insular they wouldn't have to do things like this, screw tradition thats just a euphimism for broken but never fixed.

I think Barringtonia once said that ''Tradition is just an another way of saying 'It's broken but we ain't fixing it.' ''.
SaintB
15-03-2009, 14:43
I think Barringtonia once said that ''Tradition is just an another way of saying 'It's broken but we ain't fixing it.' ''.

He did, but it was said by someone before him, and before then to. I've heard it from various sources. It doesn't change the fact that its true.
Blouman Empire
15-03-2009, 14:44
screw tradition thats just a euphimism for broken but never fixed.

if you say so. explain later it takes to long to type using a ps3 controller this alone took 4 minutes
Western Mercenary Unio
15-03-2009, 14:47
if you say so. explain later it takes to long to type using a ps3 controller this alone took 4 minutes

Why doesn't the 360 have a web browser? Was it that hard to implement it?
SaintB
15-03-2009, 14:54
Why doesn't the 360 have a web browser? Was it that hard to implement it?

You're talking about a multibillion earning corperation who has an entertainment division which continually drops thier best earning developers.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 14:56
the solution to this tradition is simple. the roma should give their teen daughters to me for a night so that i may educate them about the world.
Blouman Empire
15-03-2009, 15:11
Why doesn't the 360 have a web browser? Was it that hard to implement it?

I told you to get the PS3. Did I not say it was the better console? I wasn't aware of that but now that is another reason.
JuNii
15-03-2009, 17:16
i got to admit i prefer girls who don't wear makeup.

agreed.
Marrakech II
15-03-2009, 17:21
are the gold teeth just for style ? or do they have a lack of toothpaste there?

and for teens those girls are kinda chubby. I thought Americans were fat.

Maybe they are from the UK?

As for all the fatties. Where do you think the fat Americans originate from?
JuNii
15-03-2009, 17:25
As for all the fatties. Where do you think the fat Americans originate from?

Ireland. they all originate from McDonald's! :tongue: :D
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 17:50
your 24.
In Korea they rarely look for some to marry until they are 28 or 29ish.
And trust me even hint at your mom you would accept her help and she will start bringing girls by. You'd be surprised how good of a match the girls your mom picks out for you are.

shoot when i was in the army visiting Texas(home) from Maryland my mom tried to introduce me to a girl. I was like mom i barely have time to get to know her before i go back to the army.

Eh I doubt she would. My mom would pick girls that SHE likes, that wouldn't exactly be compatible with me. Now my dad on the other hand...
Katganistan
15-03-2009, 18:45
Those are women?
Yes. You can tell because they have boobies.

Seriously, you're going to criticize looks?
The_pantless_hero
15-03-2009, 18:53
1. Waaayyy too much make up, I mean Jeezus...

2. Hooray for Mass Prostitution! "You buy my daughter for how much?"

3. I could probably find someone there.

4. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way?

Gypsies are weird.
Gauthier
15-03-2009, 18:56
I shudder to think of what the Reduced Price bins must be like.
Antilon
15-03-2009, 19:08
I'm surprised no one mentioned Filipino mail-order brides yet....
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 19:11
Yes. You can tell because they have boobies.

Seriously, you're going to criticize looks?

1. Anyone can get boobies nowadays, cheapest place is Thailand, why do you think they have the highest population of trannies?

2. It was a joke, but comon, just because I'm not physically attractive, doesn't mean I can't criticize looks? I mean to be honest, I do think they applied waaayy too much make-up. I mean you have to admit, physical attraction is part of the whole package. It's just to what degree of emphasis we put on physical attraction that matters.

For me personally, they don't have to be drop dead gorgeous for me to be physically attracted to them, but in my experience, physical attraction does play a part of getting with someone. I have met women who seem to be perfect for me on paper, but there was no spark, no lust, no passion, she wasn't physically attracted to me and vice versa.

However, with that being said. I do believe in Western Society, we put too much emphasis on what's on the outside. If you don't look like a super model, or Johnny Depp, or whoever the girls are creaming over nowddays, then you shouldn't be worth anyone's time. This puts some people expectation waayy too high for anyone to meet, except for the super models and the Johnny Depps of the world.

I shudder to think of what the Reduced Price bins must be like.

Damn you, now I have to clean the tea off of my keyboard and screen.
Knights of Liberty
15-03-2009, 20:04
Give me your tears, gypsy.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 23:36
Eh I doubt she would. My mom would pick girls that SHE likes, that wouldn't exactly be compatible with me. Now my dad on the other hand...

your dad picking out a hot stripper for you is not good relationship material.


seriously give your mom's intuition a chance. once you get away from your mom she will drop the of Mrs. so and so attitude, and burp.
Marrakech II
15-03-2009, 23:38
Yes. You can tell because they have boobies.

Seriously, you're going to criticize looks?

OK, I almost spit my soda but instead let it go down the wrong pipe. Thanks! :)
Marrakech II
15-03-2009, 23:39
I'm surprised no one mentioned Filipino mail-order brides yet....

You just did. So tell us how that goes.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 23:42
You just did. So tell us how that goes.

the stories i hear are 1. they bring their entire extended family over after 2 years. 2. they steal all your money and run back home. or 3 they steal your money and start a business.


or a combo of the 3 above.
Marrakech II
15-03-2009, 23:43
the stories i hear are 1. they bring their entire extended family over after 2 years. 2. they steal all your money and run back home. or 3 they steal your money and start a business.


or a combo of the 3 above.

Why do I find this completely believable.
JuNii
15-03-2009, 23:45
the stories i hear are 1. they bring their entire extended family over after 2 years. 2. they steal all your money and run back home. or 3 they steal your money and start a business.


or a combo of the 3 above.

which is why I wouldn't mind a nice traditional Japanese girl.
One who I can then Americanize!
greed and death
15-03-2009, 23:45
Why do I find this completely believable.

because it is true. funny as hell to watch someone you don't care for do it and predict it.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 23:46
which is why I wouldn't mind a nice traditional Japanese girl.
One who I can then Americanize!

to my knowledge you don't order them in the mail.
JuNii
15-03-2009, 23:50
to my knowledge you don't order them in the mail.

...

that would explain the lack of responses I've been getting...
greed and death
15-03-2009, 23:55
...

that would explain the lack of responses I've been getting...

lol, that and unless your Japanese a "traditional" Japanese girl likely wont marry you.
I find tradition just to be an excuse for yeah, I am not going to explain why i do certain things to you anyways.
Pope Lando II
16-03-2009, 04:07
...you've never had a conversation with a woman? We are still slightly over 50% of the population, right?

Slightly less near me, but yes, pretty close. :tongue:

Give me your tears, gypsy.

Gold. :D