NationStates Jolt Archive


Let's say I made a mosaic..

IL Ruffino
15-03-2009, 02:31
.. out of marijuana and tried to sell it..

Would I get in trouble, even though it wouldn't be smoked, or even used as a drug?
Antilon
15-03-2009, 02:33
Hypothetically speaking, of course?
Gift-of-god
15-03-2009, 02:34
I think you would hear some very interesting arguments in court if they charged you with trafficking, but you're definitely busted for possession.
greed and death
15-03-2009, 02:35
if you rendered it unsmokeable it might fly... we need a drug lawyer.
IL Ruffino
15-03-2009, 02:37
I think you would hear some very interesting arguments in court if they charged you with trafficking, but you're definitely busted for possession.

"It was weed, but now it's art!"

It's like a hemp suit.


Or not..
Wilgrove
15-03-2009, 02:50
Yea, you'd get busted for possession.
Kryozerkia
15-03-2009, 02:57
Are we to assume it's THC-rich Cannabis or devoid of it, in the sense that it's a fertislised female Cannabis plant or a male Cannabis plant? In the case of the latter, we'd be looking at a plant that is used as a hemp product. If it was a hemp product, you wouldn't be able to smoke it, nor would it be "pot" in the narcotic sense.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
15-03-2009, 03:00
Ruffy, you can call me what you will and do who you want, but you'll have the last dance with me over my cold, dead body.

On topic, probably not. At least, the ACLU would certainly try to defend you.
Neesika
15-03-2009, 03:04
Short answer is yes. Yes you would get into trouble.

Long answer?

Let's say you were in Canada. YOU would argue that you were exercising your 2(b) Charter right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_Two_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms), which is your freedom of expression. Expression is defined as any activity that conveys, or attempts to convey, meaning, unless that activity includes violence. The court wouldn't look at the content of that expression (the controlled substance) until it did a section 1 analysis.

Section 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_One_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms) of the Charter allows a violation of other Charter rights only if said violation is justified in a free and democratic society. THIS is where they look at the content of the expression, and this is where they would also pull in the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-38.8/index.html). Marijuana is a schedule II controlled substance(Not including non-viable Cannabis seed, excepting its derivatives and not including mature stalks without leaves, flowers, seeds or branches, and fibers derived from such stalks (Hemp) ) , so not as serious as say, cocaine or heroine. You can have 1g of hash or 30g of cannabis and only get popped for possession, no big deal. Over that, you're looking at max 5 years unless you're actively trafficking huge amounts (think grow op).

So if your art is using over the personal amount, then restriction of you having more than that would likely, in these days of an anti-marijuana Harper agenda, land you with a section 1 exception to your right of expression.
Naturality
15-03-2009, 04:01
.. out of marijuana and tried to sell it..

Would I get in trouble, even though it wouldn't be smoked, or even used as a drug?


Yes, yes you would. Don't smoke the beautiful masterpiece. Smoke at it..
Chumblywumbly
15-03-2009, 04:04
I'd imagine that in most legal systems, sale of illicit substances is illegal no matter the intention of the buyer or seller.

That's why folk still get convicted for selling pot to those with glaucoma, etc.
Naturality
15-03-2009, 04:04
.. and hide.


sad that we have to hide pot.
Naturality
15-03-2009, 04:08
I'd imagine that in most legal systems, sale of illicit substances is illegal no matter the intention of the buyer or seller.

That's why folk still get convicted for selling pot to those with glaucoma, etc.

imo it's disgusting.


I drink booze, smoke cigs ... I'm an addict. I know that.. I don't expect YOU to do anything.


Doesn't matter if I'm a lush . so long as you don't smoke pot! her her


Last time I stopped smoking cigs and drinking .. I smoked pot. About a bowl a day. Best I've felt in my life.


Even Willie Nelson knew if he hadn't started smoking pot (and stopped boozing), he would've died soon enough.
Chumblywumbly
15-03-2009, 04:11
imo it's disgusting.
It's not a great state of affairs, no.
Naturality
15-03-2009, 04:20
I find the thoughts on pot, by majority amusing (and of course infuriating) .. it's somehow ok to kill yourself by drink .. it's ok to slowly kill yourself with tobacco. Why?

I'm not saying booze nor tobacco should be outlawd. It's the attitutde that interests me.

Just because it's 'LEGAL' it's .. 'well so and so smokes , and they know it's poisoning them, but we over look that cause it's legal'.

Where as .. 'so and so smokes pot.. they are lost and need help. We can never really accept them until they give up smoking pot'.

I was saying those things as if I were a pastor or a regular member of (the average) a church. I'm not far off.
Truly Blessed
15-03-2009, 04:23
In California you can. Mendocino, CA. There was a documentary on CNN Marijuana Inc. Huge plants 8 and 9 feet tall. Amazing and it is legal, even taxed both federal and state.
Katganistan
15-03-2009, 04:48
In California you can. Mendocino, CA. There was a documentary on CNN Marijuana Inc. Huge plants 8 and 9 feet tall. Amazing and it is legal, even taxed both federal and state.
See, that's what we should do. Tax it like tobacco and let people do what they please. Treat it the same as drinking.
Boonytopia
15-03-2009, 04:50
You should get in trouble for wasting it in a mosaic.
Naturality
15-03-2009, 04:59
you're the dude that takes fantastic pictures right?


My old question was what camera you used ... but now I know .. it's not just the camera .. it's your technique.

Your eye, your skill in doing whatever it is you do ..

A fie camera just captures it better.