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Which is your favorite super hero film, if any?

Poll coming.

How did Hancock get missed?

My apologies.

My apologies.

Seriously. There isn't a single entry in the list as cool as Hancock.

Seriously. There isn't a single entry in the list as cool as Hancock.

Idk, I like Iron Man more than Hancock.

Idk, I like Iron Man more than Hancock.

Iron Man was pretty good, but there's nothing like watching a black superhero flying while holding a fifth.

The Dark Knight. Though closely followed by Begins, with X-men 1 and 3 and the first Hellboy not too far behind.

Speaking of which, why is Hellboy not on here?;)

with X-men 1 and 3

X-men one and three but not x-men two, which was the only good* one? Surely you jest.

Anyway, I only really like the new batman films from the films listed. I haven't seen Watchmen, found Iron-man a bit too long and a bit too mediocre, thought X-men and Superman films were dire, and the third spidey film managed to retroactivly ruin the first two, which was a pity coz I actually liked them when they came out.

All in my subjective opinion, of course.

*by comparision

I've never seen what people like about the second X-men film. It wasn't as bad the second time I saw it, but among my other complaints, the ending just felt so contrived. It also had Magneto (my second favorite supervillan after the Joker) cross over from sympathetic and well-intentioned bad guy to complete scum by trying to genocide the human race.

As far as number 3, it was a good movie in its own right. It had good action scenes with interesting tactics and use of the mutant's powers, and I liked how they had the balls to kill off 3 major characters (which really drives home the point that this is a war, and in wars, people die). However, I'll concede that it fits poorly with the second film, as everything's basically back to normal, or even improved, in terms of human-mutant relationships. Really, I doubt their would have been any such peace after Magneto's nearly successful attempted genocide.

Batman the movie, 1966. Adam West and Burt Ward as the caped crusaders. Lee Meriwether as Catwoman, Burgess Meredith as the Penguin, Cesar Romero as the Joker, and Frank Gorshin as the Riddler. It has the best line ever, about the difficulties in ditching a bomb.

I haven't seen Watchmen yet, so I can't really answer -- though of the others, while I enjoyed the X-Men (at least 1 and 2) immensely, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were probably the best of the bunch.

I'll abstain till I see Watchmen.

I might have arranged the poll by franchise and allowed people to specify their faves within them: X-Men Franchise, New Batman Franchise, New Superman Franchise, Spiderman Franchise, Hellboy Franchise, Fantastic Four Franchise, Watchmen, Hancock, etc.

Call me old school if you must, but I still enjoy the original Superman and Tim Burton's Batman.

Though I admit nothing is as funny as Batman The Movie.

I've never seen what people like about the second X-men film. It wasn't as bad the second time I saw it, but among my other complaints, the ending just felt so contrived. It also had Magneto (my second favorite supervillan after the Joker) cross over from sympathetic and well-intentioned bad guy to complete scum by trying to genocide the human race.
Now now. Maggie's tried that before. It was taunting a child about her hair that I thought was lousy characterization.

Magneto is all about the end justifies the means: so killing humans to stop the persecution of mutants is a worthy goal. "I like what you've done with your hair," is sixth grade bullying.

I liked the first two Spider-man movies (well, not the first (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=6149045)two, but the first of the recent 3).
They started up with a faithful premise and allowed the story to resolve under its own momentum.

There's the boy, the girl, the rival, the obstacles to their union, the villains that represent those hurdles, and finally they get together.

That left all of Spider-man 3 feeling like it had been pulled out of someone's ass. It was just a premise in search of a plot that it tragically never found.

I actually preferred the Tim Burton conception of Batman to the Christopher Nolan. But I guess I just like my Comic Book adaptations to look like a comic book come to life rather than a movie based on a comic book.

I'll abstain till I see Watchmen.

Yeah this. But for the ones on the poll I have seen, probably Dark Knight.

Call me old school if you must, but I still enjoy the original Superman and Tim Burton's Batman.

They both have some of the most awesome scores ever. John Williams and Danny Elfman FTW.

Batman the movie, 1966. Adam West and Burt Ward as the caped crusaders. Lee Meriwether as Catwoman, Burgess Meredith as the Penguin, Cesar Romero as the Joker, and Frank Gorshin as the Riddler. It has the best line ever, about the difficulties in ditching a bomb.
This, definitely.
Although I'd say the best exchange was either this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_igqZWsNgwg) or:
Batman: If I could just reverse the polarity... send out waves of super-energy...
<the scene cuts to the Penguin who is in a submarine>
Penguin: He must be using his Super-Energy Reverse Polarizer!

I like Unbreakable and the film about The Flash. Hype around movies is a definite turnoff for me.

Seriously. There isn't a single entry in the list as cool as Hancock.
If we are judging coolness by attention deficiency and inane plot twists some one pulled out of their ass.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

srsly

How did Hancock get missed?

Well, how did Meteor Man get missed, or The Shadow, Toxic Advenger, Spawn, The Crow, Swamp Thing, The Guyver, Darkman, Black Scorpion, and The Power Rangers for that matter.

I'm just gonna go with Hellboy.

If we are judging coolness by attention deficiency and inane plot twists some one pulled out of their ass.

Not hugged enough as a kid?

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

srsly

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HOW HAVE I FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT MOVIE?? Like wow, my god, it has fallen completely off my radar of films. I'm going to watch it tomorrow, for sure.

I had a serious answer lined up here, something about The Dark Knight minus all the batman bits, but I kinda got distracted by the agile colour co-ordinated reptiles.

Batman the movie, 1966. Adam West and Burt Ward as the caped crusaders. Lee Meriwether as Catwoman, Burgess Meredith as the Penguin, Cesar Romero as the Joker, and Frank Gorshin as the Riddler. It has the best line ever, about the difficulties in ditching a bomb.

I have that movie on PSP UMD :D

And how dare you ignore The Phantom??? :p

I have that movie on PSP UMD :D

And how dare you ignore The Phantom??? :p

You are correct. Much like the holocaust, it is a sin against nature and humanity to forget The Phantom.

Of the ones I've seen, X-Men. There's still quite a lot of superhero movies I haven't seen yet, though, including Watchmen and the second half of The Dark Knight.

Oh, and to weigh in on the X-Men debate, 1 was good, 2 was mostly good, and 3 was terrible. :tongue:

Oh, and to weigh in on the X-Men debate, 1 was good, 2 was mostly good, and 3 was terrible. :tongue:

Three gave us good action scenes and had the guts to kill major characters. Those are the main reasons I like it.

Not hugged enough as a kid?

Hancock sucked. The end. My Super Ex-Girlfriend was better if only because it was more coherent.

Hancock sucked. The end. My Super Ex-Girlfriend was better if only because it was more coherent.

Ok, you must take that back. My Super Ex-Girlfriend belongs in the dumpster with The Fly.

Hancock, however, was a brilliant idea. A superhero who's kind of a drunk and an asshole (but don't call him that) is something no one has ever tried.

Have to go Dark Knight on this one...It pains me not to say Ironman or Watchmen, cause I loved those movies...

But with the excellent performances of...prettymuch everyone involved, and the excellent writing that has been missing in the previous decade of Superhero films....

Its like all the stars aligned to make the perfect movie, lol...

Ok, you must take that back. My Super Ex-Girlfriend belongs in the dumpster with The Fly.

Hancock, however, was a brilliant idea. A superhero who's kind of a drunk and an asshole (but don't call him that) is something no one has ever tried.

Except that it's been done a million times with disgruntled army colonels...


*hasn't seen Hancock*

Three gave us good action scenes and had the guts to kill major characters. Those are the main reasons I like it.

Action scenes are all well and good, but I zone out during them if the plot is kinda stupid and the characters are behaving woefully out of character.

And once again, Darkman doesn't get it's recognition. :(

Ok, you must take that back. My Super Ex-Girlfriend belongs in the dumpster with The Fly.
Dude, don't put me on the same side of an argument as The Pantless Hero...

Hancock, however, was a brilliant idea. A superhero who's kind of a drunk and an asshole (but don't call him that) is something no one has ever tried.
First: Yes it has. Just off the top of my head, Tony Stark was an alcoholic and there's a term for heroes that are dicks, anti-heroes. (not all anti-heroes are 'assholes' per se, but it is a trope).

Second, a 'brilliant idea' is not the end all. In fact, the idea is really the easiest part. Face it, even you come up with ideas now and then, and they're probably not all bad. Ideas are nothing. Good ideas, only slightly more than nothing. Art is not ideas. This is a fascination that people need to ween themselves of. Romeo and Juliet is not remembered because the 'idea' of forbidden love was 'brilliant.'

It's the execution that makes the work, work. It's what separates some guy who won't let you just drink your hot chocolate at the coffee shop without blathering on about his half formed brilliant idea and the person who actually is able to successfully execute that idea.

Hancock, really, did not do that. The 'brilliant' idea of Hancock was done in the first forty five minutes of the film. It did not spend any time interrogating the idea of the obligation of a super powered being in society beyond what was available in the trailer. He has powers, he doesn't want to use them, his society has a troubled relationship with it. They want him to use them but responsibly.

It was explored briefly, solved in tv episode thrift, and then moved on to a troubled and poorly realized mythology of the character. (why is the 'bad guys' plan to simply try again when he didn't have a way to realize that Hancock was losing his powers? This, and many other contrivences spoiled the last half of the movie). It had Stripes syndrome, but without the first half of the movie being even half as enjoyable as Stripes, so the WTF second half was that much more tedious. There was nothing about who Hancock happened to be that informed the character we knew at the beginning of the movie save the existence of his powers.

In a nutshell it takes what might be an interesting idea (what if powers went to someone not fit or willing to use them or able to handle the responsibility) and did not explore that idea in anything resembling an interesting way.

And once again, Darkman doesn't get it's recognition. :(

I love Darkman. Turns out that Raimi did it because he lost a bid to do The Shadow, which he now has the chance to do. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Oh, and to weigh in on the X-Men debate, I was good, II was mostly good, and III was terrible. :tongue:
we are in full agreement.

III phails cause they tried doing too much which made it convoluted, the expected action scenes never materialised (colossus vs jugernaut would've been nice but all we got was Pyro vs Iceman which ended up being nothing more than two emo kids glaring at each other for 5 minutes with a bunch of special effects between them)and it was little more than a Wolverine asskiss-fest.

I wished they'd signed up for a 4th movie, and split the plot into 2 separate entities. This was my vision for them:
X-Men III would have been Dark Phoenix, with everyone - Magneto included, once he realises how powerful and dangerous she is - teaming up to kill her, causing untold death and destruction.
X-Men IV is the aftermath of this battle. Magneto takes over Prof X's role at the school. Cyclops is still alive and eventually found, near death. Understandably bitter that no-one bothered to look for him, he's shocked to find how much has changed: Prof X (apparently) dead, Magneto in charge, Wolverine the X-men leader and the man who killed his love. He leaves and joins Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil (Mystique also having quite the grudge against Magneto over his betrayal of her in X-Men III) along with Jugernaut, Blob, Pyro etc. Battles take place. Meanwhile public sentiment has turned against mutants after the destruction the Dark Phoenix battle caused, and the Sentinels are created to combat them, leading us into a glorious finale.

*X-men geek and fanboy*

And once again, Darkman doesn't get it's recognition. :(

I liked it a lot, I just liked TMNT more. *shrugs*

HOW HAVE I FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT MOVIE?? Like wow, my god, it has fallen completely off my radar of films. I'm going to watch it tomorrow, for sure.

I had a serious answer lined up here, something about The Dark Knight minus all the batman bits, but I kinda got distracted by the agile colour co-ordinated reptiles.

...just avoid the sequels. They don't exist. *wisenod*

Hancock, however, was a brilliant idea. A superhero who's kind of a drunk and an asshole (but don't call him that) is something no one has ever tried.

An interesting idea that was executed in such an astoundingly predictable way that I may as well have not bothered watching the film at all.

...seriously, there was not one "twist" in the plot of that movie that I did not see coming at lest 30 minutes prior.

we are in full agreement.

III phails cause they tried doing too much which made it convoluted, the expected action scenes never materialised (colossus vs jugernaut would've been nice but all we got was Pyro vs Iceman which ended up being nothing more than two emo kids glaring at each other for 5 minutes with a bunch of special effects between them)and it was little more than a Wolverine asskiss-fest.

I wished they'd signed up for a 4th movie, and split the plot into 2 separate entities. This was my vision for them:
X-Men III would have been Dark Phoenix, with everyone - Magneto included, once he realises how powerful and dangerous she is - teaming up to kill her, causing untold death and destruction.
X-Men IV is the aftermath of this battle. Magneto takes over Prof X's role at the school. Cyclops is still alive and eventually found, near death. Understandably bitter that no-one bothered to look for him, he's shocked to find how much has changed: Prof X (apparently) dead, Magneto in charge, Wolverine the X-men leader and the man who killed his love. He leaves and joins Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil (Mystique also having quite the grudge against Magneto over his betrayal of her in X-Men III) along with Jugernaut, Blob, Pyro etc. Battles take place. Meanwhile public sentiment has turned against mutants after the destruction the Dark Phoenix battle caused, and the Sentinels are created to combat them, leading us into a glorious finale.

*X-men geek and fanboy*

This plot just made me...well...You know :$


Why dont they listen to the interwebs? lol

Hancock, however, was a brilliant idea. A superhero who's kind of a drunk and an asshole (but don't call him that) is something no one has ever tried.

Tony Stark.

But I agree, it was a good movie. Good thing it ended after the bank heist though, I don't know what they would ha--What? Oh right.

It kept going. And that's where the problems started.

I liked it a lot, I just liked TMNT more. *shrugs*




Man the '89 Movie is like the greatest movie ever, I loved it when I was 4, and I still love it now, Man, I miss the Turtles...

But I agree, it was a good movie. Good thing it ended after the bank heist though, I don't know what they would ha--What? Oh right.

It kept going. And that's where the problems started.
yet another poster whose views I'm in entire accord with.
Like X-Men III, I felt it was a case of trying to fit too much into one movie. It felt so much like they wanted to make a movie with Hancock the asshole becoming Hancock the hero + a sequel to explain who he was and why he's got these powers. But they decided they wouldn't make enough from the 1st movie to pay Will Smith's exhorbitant fee for a 2nd.
So they just mashed the two movies into one.

Tony Stark.

But I agree, it was a good movie. Good thing it ended after the bank heist though, I don't know what they would ha--What? Oh right.

It kept going. And that's where the problems started.

I think it couldve been improved if they had actually HAD a real villain, like, there was the chick, but being that both were impervious to anything, she wasnt exactly a threat...

and then everyone else never stood a chance...

But, yeah, the First 30 minutes or so were pretty awesome, but after that it just got boring...Although the Wolverine line at the end was pretty funny...

Although the Wolverine line at the end was pretty funny...
pls remind me...I can't recall this bit.

Man the '89 Movie is like the greatest movie ever, I loved it when I was 4, and I still love it now, Man, I miss the Turtles...

It holds up surprisingly well for a film marketed at kids made 20 years ago.

pls remind me...I can't recall this bit.

After the first few credits, there is a last scene where he is helping police capture this guy, and Hancock asks the criminal to put the gun down, and he basically tells him to fuck off, he points the gun at him, and goes "Who do you think you are, with the tight ass Wolverine outfit on!? Now lets make it happen, Asshole" and of course that pisses him off and the movie ends...

The reference was just unexpected so I chuckled...

hmmm.... Hero at Large (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080863/) at nice story that shows one doesn't need to have super powers to be a hero.

Mystery Men was another good film. it shows that any power can be used for either good or evil.

After the first few credits, there is a last scene where he is helping police capture this guy, and Hancock asks the criminal to put the gun down, and he basically tells him to fuck off, he points the gun at him, and goes "Who do you think you are, with the tight ass Wolverine outfit on!? Now lets make it happen, Asshole" and of course that pisses him off and the movie ends...

The reference was just unexpected so I chuckled...
now you've said it, I do remember that bit and I chuckled too.
Cheers. If you hadn't replied I would have spent the rest of the day frustrated about not remembering!

The Dark Knight, seems a more realistic approach at a true hero and his/her plights, tribulations and the like.

Ok, you must take that back. My Super Ex-Girlfriend belongs in the dumpster with The Fly.

Hancock, however, was a brilliant idea. A superhero who's kind of a drunk and an asshole (but don't call him that) is something no one has ever tried.

So you only watched the first half of the movie?

So you only watched the first half of the movie?

The first half was the better half, I'll admit. However, I enjoyed the "asshole" and "crazy" bit. The part with the hospital was pure unadulterated crap, for sure, but all in all, it was one of the best superhero movies I've seen recently.

The first half was the better half, I'll admit. However, I enjoyed the "asshole" and "crazy" bit. The part with the hospital was pure unadulterated crap, for sure, but all in all, it was one of the best superhero movies I've seen recently.

Then you are certifiable. The first half was good - it was unique and interesting. Half-way through it goes dramaqueen and everything sucks ass. At least My Super Ex-Girlfriend was consistent. And there are way too many passable superhero movies for that scatterbrained inanity to be one of the best.

Then you are certifiable. The first half was good - it was unique and interesting. Half-way through it goes dramaqueen and everything sucks ass. At least My Super Ex-Girlfriend was consistent. And there are way too many passable superhero movies for that scatterbrained inanity to be one of the best.

Come on, only a person lacking any semblance of a sense of humor didn't find that part where she hits him with a truck completely hilarious.

If there had been a movie version of The Tick (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112196/), it would pwn all other superhero franchises combined :p

Come on, only a person lacking any semblance of a sense of humor didn't find that part where she hits him with a truck completely hilarious.

Which is beside the god damn point.

Which is beside the god damn point.

Well, that was in the last half of the movie after which everything sucks assso I just thought you didn't find that funny.

The Dark Knight, seems a more realistic approach at a true hero and his/her plights, tribulations and the like.

This is always touted as the strength of Batman Begins/The Dark Knight, but it's not what I like about it. I find it kind of thin, really. Honestly, if I wanted 'realism' I wouldn't be watching a movie about a guy in a costume fighting crime. I don't need my superhero movies to be 'realistic' since the concede that ground by simply being a superhero movie. It's like praising a wizard movie for having realistic wizards.

Well, that was in the last half of the movie after which so I just thought you didn't find that funny.

No, that was during the transition period where in it goes from unique and humorous to attention deficient, melodramatic crap. It is the symbol of what was wrong with the movie.

The Indian Superman

Watchmen.

I like the current Batman Series
Spiderman rates highly on my list
Watchmen will probably effect the movie genre the same way it did the comic genre

My favorite all time superhero movie though... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

I got to go with Dark Knight. Batman is by far my favorite. No super power just kicks butt.

A very close second Iron Man. Extremely good movie. There are very few of the superhero movies that I didn't like. Spider man was pretty good.

'The Return of Captain Invincible' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Captain_Invincible) :D

(with Christopher Lee as the villain, 'Mr Midnight'... come on, how many other films have Christopher Lee singing? ;))

hmmm.... Hero at Large (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080863/) at nice story that shows one doesn't need to have super powers to be a hero.Yes, I remember enjoying that film.

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Hey, how on Earth did I temporarily forget 'Misfits of Science' ?!?

(checks on the 'net) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misfits_of_Science)

It was a TV series? Ah, that video that I rented (years ago) must have been the [double-length] pilot...

This is always touted as the strength of Batman Begins/The Dark Knight, but it's not what I like about it. I find it kind of thin, really. Honestly, if I wanted 'realism' I wouldn't be watching a movie about a guy in a costume fighting crime.

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. I'm not much of a fan of super hero films, never have been, that's why Batman's normality, Batman's everyman quality appeals to me.

I don't need my superhero movies to be 'realistic' since the concede that ground by simply being a superhero movie. It's like praising a wizard movie for having realistic wizards.

Which is all well and good, but as I stated before, I don't care much for super heroes and super powers. Bruce Wayne's realism appeals to me.

Nobody else liked TMNT? :(

Nobody else liked TMNT? :(

I love all four of the TMNT movies, but I don't really think of them as "superheroes."

Hey, how on Earth did I temporarily forget 'Misfits of Science' ?!?

(checks on the 'net) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misfits_of_Science)

It was a TV series? Ah, that video that I rented (years ago) must have been the [double-length] pilot...

I remember watching that series...

Which is your favorite super hero film, if any?

Poll coming.

Iron Man, definitely.

...with Christopher Lee as the villain, 'Mr Midnight'... come on, how many other films have Christopher Lee singing?
'Where is Rowan Morrison? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FdV-O8o7ok)'

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. I'm not much of a fan of super hero films, never have been, that's why Batman's normality, Batman's everyman quality appeals to me.

It must tell us something about the superhero genre when a billionaire master martial artist is praised for his "everyman quality.":D

But, I agree that their's something interesting about Batman and characters like him, in that they were given special powers, or caught in some freak accident involving a spider or radiation. Batman had to work for it, every day, for years.

Of course their's also the "wild west" style story of vigilanti justice from a guy out for revenge. Putting two and two together, I'd say that Batman in some respects really embodies much of the self-reliance, independent side of American culture. For better or for worse.

I just watched "My Super Ex-Girlfriend" does that count as a super hero movie?

I don't like super heros...regular heros are annoying enough...

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. I'm not much of a fan of super hero films, never have been, that's why Batman's normality, Batman's everyman quality appeals to me.

you want an everyman hero? Hero at Large (if you can find it.) ;)

I love all four of the TMNT movies, but I don't really think of them as "superheroes."

Why not? Because they don't have superpowers or because they don't have secret identities? What exactly disqualifies them?

Ninja reptile mutants are 10x cooler than generic human mutants. Take that, X-Men!

If there had been a movie version of The Tick (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112196/), it would pwn all other superhero franchises combined :p

I don't think it would sell for some reason. I liked the TV show both animated and real person but it is missing something. Very funny but not all people get it.

Even the bad guys in Batman rock. They are normal powered but each is unique.

Even the bad guys in Batman rock. They are normal powered but each is unique.

Not normal, but at least in the last two movies, without any superpowers. For example, the Joker is at his most terrifying in perhaps his most realistic portrayal (The Dark Knight), not because of extraordinary powers, but rather because he knows how to manipulate the weak points in human psychology, and that he can tear a city apart by killing a few people. He basically points this out by saying "look what I've done to this city with a few drums of gasoline and a couple of bullets," among other lines.

Plus he's terrifying in person because he's completely ruthless, shameless, fearless, and upredictable. Or to put it bluntly, he's fucking nuts.;)

i heard Iron Man was really good, but i missed it.

the X Men had good pace and pleased the eye.

Dark Knight was ok but i liked the graphic novels better.

Nobody else liked TMNT? :(

SaintB didn't read the thread! Hah!

:tongue:

Why not? Because they don't have superpowers or because they don't have secret identities? What exactly disqualifies them?

Nothing disqualifies them per se; I just don't think of them as superheroes.

my favorite films are rail fan videos, eco-travelogs, and anime that are NOT about 'super heroes'.

a bunch of wierd guys pretending to posses some supermoral authority, flying through the air in funny looking capes and tights outfits in eye burning colors, are generally as tedius to me as a concept as most of the rest of dramatic entertainment.

i think the super powers are cool and all that, but they are much more impressive when possessed by individuals who look like the last person in hell you would ever expect them to.

'Where is Rowan Morrison? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FdV-O8o7ok)'Okay, I temporarily forgot that one...

Not normal, but at least in the last two movies, without any superpowers. For example, the Joker is at his most terrifying in perhaps his most realistic portrayal (The Dark Knight), not because of extraordinary powers, but rather because he knows how to manipulate the weak points in human psychology, and that he can tear a city apart by killing a few people. He basically points this out by saying "look what I've done to this city with a few drums of gasoline and a couple of bullets," among other lines.

Plus he's terrifying in person because he's completely ruthless, shameless, fearless, and upredictable. Or to put it bluntly, he's fucking nuts.;)

Yeah I also like Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul. It is nice to see Batman get a run for his money now and then. Ra's al Ghul was at least as good at martial arts.

With regard to Iron Man I looking forward to see what they do in the next movie.

Watchmen was awesome. My fav. character was Rorschach :D

Yeah I also like Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul. It is nice to see Batman get a run for his money now and then. Ra's al Ghul was at least as good at martial arts.

With regard to Iron Man I looking forward to see what they do in the next movie.

I didn't like how they portrayed Ra's in Batman Begins. To me, Ra's (Comic) had more honor than the one in the movie.

you want an everyman hero? Hero at Large (if you can find it.) ;)

I'll stick with non-super hero films. Thanks for the suggestion though.:)

I'll stick with non-super hero films. Thanks for the suggestion though.:)

I suggest that film then.

Synopsis
An idealistic but struggling actor finds his life unexpectedly complicated when he stops a robbery while wearing the costume of Captain Avenger, a superhero character of a film he is hired to to promote. He decides to dabble at being a superhero only to find that it is more difficult and dangerous than he ever imagined.

my favorite films are rail fan videos, eco-travelogs, and anime that are NOT about 'super heroes'.

a bunch of wierd guys pretending to posses some supermoral authority, flying through the air in funny looking capes and tights outfits in eye burning colors, are generally as tedius to me as a concept as most of the rest of dramatic entertainment.

i think the super powers are cool and all that, but they are much more impressive when possessed by individuals who look like the last person in hell you would ever expect them to.

I think you'd enjoy the first season of Heroes.

With regard to Iron Man I looking forward to see what they do in the next movie.
Get a new Warmachine.

I think you'd enjoy the first season of Heroes.
If you can get past all the asinine in media res character development, shady story line, and generally confusing bullshit.

If you can get past all the asinine in media res character development, shady story line, and generally confusing bullshit.

That's why I said first season.

Batman Returns.

Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman rules. Plain and simple.

I personally prefer Batman Begins over The Dark Knight. Don't get me wrong, the Joker as portrayed by Ledger was irrefutably one of the best comic-cum-movie villain depictions of all time, but... I don't know, I preferred the pacing of the first I suppose. Those two are closely followed by Spiderman 1 & 2. Hancock was awesome too, or at least the first half of it was anyway.

I have always liked Batman the best because he could be real under the right circumstances

Putting Watchmen on this list is a bit unfair. It's not really a superhero movie so much as a moral drama which happens to involve superheroes.

If you can get past all the asinine in media res character development, shady story line, and generally confusing bullshit.

Please teach me how to hate everything so I can be as cool as you.

I would like to say that Wanted was one of the worst superpowered people comics-to-movies exploit ever done.

I have always liked Batman the best because he could be real under the right circumstances

Well, depending on the version, maybe. Some Batman stories are outright fantasy.

But the basics of the character (the death of his parents, putting their fortune to use to become a crime fighter, the obsessive vigilanti who refuses to kill, the hero who relies on training and equipment rather than any magical power) are all quite possible.

That's why I said first season.

I've only seen the first three episodes of the first season. I couldn't watch any more because it was retarded.

I've only seen the first three episodes of the first season. I couldn't watch any more because it was retarded.

Then you clearly have no taste and/or didn't even make it to the flashback episode, which explains a lot.

entertainment is for people with short attention spans, or a deficit of their own creativity.

(not to disparage the relative few of creative people who are able to make an honest living off the couch potatoe butts of those who'd rather spectate then be creative themselves)

Does Hellboy count as a superhero movie? Not a fan but I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been mentioned.

I quite like X-Men 2. The 1st was quite good as well. The 3rd was a good attempt, I suppose, seeing as it came from a different director, but was only average in terms of superhero movies.

But what about The Incredibles? That had a very slick plot, character development, was humorous but also had an air of seriousness about it, and could appeal to both children and adults. But are you only counting live action films?

I am sick of hearing about The Dark Knight. Good superhero movie I suppose but really not deserved of the immense hype around it - especially when it's being compared to classic films outside its genre. The Joker was amazing, I'll give you that, but then when he was off the screen the film wasn't anywhere near as good. Gary Oldman was, again, underused, Christian Bale was nothing special in the role, Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine had pitifully small roles, and the whole bit with the 2 boats at the end was plain ridiculous on some level. Oh, and how on earth did The Joker get out of that jail cell? Just my opinion, though, I'm sure that the millions of fan boys would probably tear me apart for saying it.

Does Hellboy count as a superhero movie? Not a fan but I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been mentioned.

I brought it up. I did not like the second one, but the first one was good.

I quite like X-Men 2. The 1st was quite good as well. The 3rd was a good attempt, I suppose, seeing as it came from a different director, but was only average in terms of superhero movies.

Again, I was just impressed by the willingness to kill off major characters. It really created a sense of danger I think, that anyone, however important, could die.

I am sick of hearing about The Dark Knight. Good superhero movie I suppose but really not deserved of the immense hype around it - especially when it's being compared to classic films outside its genre. The Joker was amazing, I'll give you that, but then when he was off the screen the film wasn't anywhere near as good. Gary Oldman was, again, underused,

He got a lot of screen time, and his decisions played a significant role in Two Face's development. They used him pretty well considering that Commissioner Gordon is a supporting character (in Begins, he was virtually Batman's side kick).

Christian Bale was nothing special in the role,

Agreed, though I liked him in the Joker interrogation scene, where he's almost on the verge of going over the edge.

Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine had pitifully small roles,

Their characters had specific roles in the story that they adequately fulfilled. Both also added a bit of (very classy) humor, and acted as a guiding influence on Batman (though in opposite ways. Alfred pushes him to be more ruthless and relentless, while Fox pushes him to be more restrained).

and the whole bit with the 2 boats at the end was plain ridiculous on some level.

Well, their is the question of how they got the stuff on the boats. I still kind of feel they never played up the corruption in Gotham enough to make Batman's vigilantyism very sympathetic or the story really credible.

For true absurdity, try Batman taking out pretty much the entire police force storming the building, and a bunch of goons, apparently without a single hostage getting harmed.

Oh, and how on earth did The Joker get out of that jail cell? Just my opinion, though, I'm sure that the millions of fan boys would probably tear me apart for saying it.

Remember when Batman tosses him against the glass during the interogation? Well, after he provokes his guard into attacking him, he holds a piece of glass to the guy's neck. Though until someone pointed that out, I thought he just smuggled a knife in somehow. My lousy eyesight and inattentiveness I suppose.;)

Though how he set off a bomb in the station that took out all the cops without harming him? I guess he's just a lucky bastard.:D

Then you clearly have no taste and/or didn't even make it to the flashback episode, which explains a lot.

You obviously missed my original complaint.

I just saw this again tonight and wondered why nobody'd done a film of my all time fave as a kid: Sgt. Rock. Turns out there's a film in the works. Hope they do Rock, Bulldozer, and the rest of Easy Co. right... I'll be mighty pissed if they screw it up.

How about Ash in Army of Darkness? I guess it could be more of horror movie I suppose or comedy depending on your taste.

I just saw this again tonight and wondered why nobody'd done a film of my all time fave as a kid: Sgt. Rock. Turns out there's a film in the works. Hope they do Rock, Bulldozer, and the rest of Easy Co. right... I'll be mighty pissed if they screw it up.

Oh yeah, I read some of that from the Finnish equivalent of Commando.

From X-men I really liked Magneto especially when he yanks all the iron out of the guys blood. That is the kind of bad guy you need. In the comic Doom was far better. Silver Surfer was just so bland. Fantastic Four had to be the biggest disappointment so far. Possibly Ghost Rider was the really bad. As a kid I was obsessed with Ghost Rider.

Oh yeah, I read some of that from the Finnish equivalent of Commando.

:D I wonder though.. actually, I'll put my question in another thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=587153)...

You obviously missed my original complaint.

I read it, I just disagree with it. Especially the "shady" plot since it hadn't even fully set up the exposition yet.

The Dark Knight definately

Batman (1989).

Joker to Viki Vale: "As though we were made for each other... Beauty and the Beast. Of course, if anyone else calls you beast, I'll rip their lungs out. "