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So School cuts began

The Black Forrest
11-03-2009, 17:08
My kids school had 6 pink slips. Anybody else (US that is) seen this happen?

Normally; I would speak ill of the Repubs for all their we love school because children are the future BS but the demos are working hand in hand on this one.

Education always seems to be the first thing to cut.

*sighs*
Shadowbat
11-03-2009, 17:16
throw pies at politicians, works 4 meh.
Korarchaeota
11-03-2009, 17:25
Yes, across our district they are getting rid of a number of programs and staff, reducing some staff to part-time, and letting positions open to attrition and retirement go unfilled. It's $5 million in budget cuts, but I don't if any of the stimulus funding will ease that. The cuts range across athletics, the arts, and academics, some ancillary activities, and some curriculum programs that they are cutting or going to be doing differently. I don’t know all the specifics yet – I’m on the district curriculum committee and we have a meeting with the superintendent and the Board of Ed next week to go through the budget in more detail. My kids are losing an enrichment program they enjoy; they are looking to some of us as parents to fill in the gaps and step to volunteer to faciliate that program instead, which I'm likely to do – even if that falls through, I’m not so much worried about it, because I know that as parents we encourage their self-directed learning anyway, but not all parents are either equipped or inclined to do that.
Call to power
11-03-2009, 17:51
don't you use pink slips in illegal street racing to bet your car:confused:
Korarchaeota
11-03-2009, 17:57
don't you use pink slips in illegal street racing to bet your car:confused:

In the US, the term "pink slip" refers to unemployment as a result of getting laid off, or fired.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-03-2009, 18:00
don't you use pink slips in illegal street racing to bet your car:confused:
In the United States, when someone is fired they are expected to wear an article of women's underwear (traditionally pink, although white and blue are becoming increasingly common on the East and West coasts respectively) on their head for the next month. This insures that the entire community is aware of the fired individual status as an honorless dog who needs hand-outs and pity to survive.
Most companies distribute this underwear for free to their employees upon dismissal, and some even go the extra mile of supergluing it to the fired employees scalp while they sleep.

EDIT: Korarchaeota is lying to your face. Or to your panda bear avatar, anyway.
Call to power
11-03-2009, 18:19
In the US, the term "pink slip" refers to unemployment as a result of getting laid off, or fired.

you people are weird.

*begins mass mailing pink pieces of paper*

In the United States, when someone is fired they are expected to wear an article of women's underwear (traditionally pink, although white and blue are becoming increasingly common on the East and West coasts respectively) on their head for the next month. This insures that the entire community is aware of the fired individual status as an honorless dog who needs hand-outs and pity to survive.
Most companies distribute this underwear for free to their employees upon dismissal, and some even go the extra mile of supergluing it to the fired employees scalp while they sleep.

I thought it was because of the promise of trailer trash *puts away my pink tickets*

EDIT: Korarchaeota is lying to your face. Or to your panda bear avatar, anyway.

why would you lie to me like that for Korarchaeota :(
Knights of Liberty
11-03-2009, 18:24
My mom said all the non-tenured teachers at her school got one of those letters that says they may have to let you go in two months (I dont know what its called...its not a pink slip, but like a just in case thing).

The principal recommended my mom for rehiring to the district and schoolboard, and shes the librarian, so she probably wont be cut. But a lot of other teachers will.

It really sucks. And Im not really seeing Obama's educational reform he keeps talking about happening.
Korarchaeota
11-03-2009, 18:29
In the United States, when someone is fired they are expected to wear an article of women's underwear (traditionally pink, although white and blue are becoming increasingly common on the East and West coasts respectively) on their head for the next month. This insures that the entire community is aware of the fired individual status as an honorless dog who needs hand-outs and pity to survive.
Most companies distribute this underwear for free to their employees upon dismissal, and some even go the extra mile of supergluing it to the fired employees scalp while they sleep.

EDIT: Korarchaeota is lying to your face. Or to your panda bear avatar, anyway.

It was an honest mistake, but fully explains the mystery of the undergarments that have been left on my desk for days running now. Here I was thinking that the cleaning people have been going at it like bunnies in my office when I leave at night, when in fact I should be packing up my things. Little wonder my staff looks so annoyed on a daily basis. I just can't take a hint.
Korarchaeota
11-03-2009, 18:31
you people are weird.(
Yes, well, you expected otherwise?
Wilgrove
11-03-2009, 19:37
Charlotte Mecklenburg and Concord School Districts are also laying off. :(
BuenAyre
11-03-2009, 20:15
Greater Albany Public Schools in Oregon put employees with less than 2 years of service on notice that they will be the first to go if the budget outlook does not improve, with classified employees being the first to go and teachers being second in line. The school district I'm student teaching for is looking at budget cuts of 20% or higher, and personnel is 84% of the budget, so there is no way they can make it through this without cutting jobs as well, and I assume the newer teachers will be first to go in this case also. It's a scary time for people like me who will be entering the job market in education this summer.

Shadowbat, I'll gladly join in on any pie-throwing. Perhaps you are planning a visit to the US, and Oregon in particular, sometime soon?
Knights of Liberty
11-03-2009, 20:20
Greater Albany Public Schools in Oregon put employees with less than 2 years of service on notice that they will be the first to go if the budget outlook does not improve, with classified employees being the first to go and teachers being second in line. The school district I'm student teaching for is looking at budget cuts of 20% or higher, and personnel is 84% of the budget, so there is no way they can make it through this without cutting jobs as well, and I assume the newer teachers will be first to go in this case also. It's a scary time for people like me who will be entering the job market in education this summer.

Become qualified to teach American Government or Economics. There is a shortage of teachers qualified to teach those subjects. If youre teaching High School, such qualifications will give you a lot better odds.
Kryozerkia
11-03-2009, 20:33
The fat needs to be trimmed at the administrative level. Get rid of the trustees who are taking up room. Get rid of people working at the board of education who aren't teachers or educators. Anyone who is just taking up room should be the first to go. Teachers should not be foremost on the chopping board.
Pope Joan
11-03-2009, 22:06
our local home economics teacher gets $60,000 for teaching sewing.

i think we can do without that luxury.

spend my tax money on reducing the deficit or something.
Ledgersia
11-03-2009, 22:09
I hate public education, but I'd rather have money going to that instead of bombs. The "defense" budget should be cut by at least 75%, IMO.
NERVUN
11-03-2009, 23:58
It's starting to happen all over the US. Nevada is looking at massive cuts to education and our idiotic governor wants to slash the universities' budget by 50% (While raising the sports budget), and then people loudly wonder why Nevada doesn't attract many non-service related businesses.

The fat needs to be trimmed at the administrative level. Get rid of the trustees who are taking up room. Get rid of people working at the board of education who aren't teachers or educators. Anyone who is just taking up room should be the first to go. Teachers should not be foremost on the chopping board.
Ya know, I keep hearing this, I have to ask though, Kryo, do you know which ones are just taking up space and not doing anything?
Yootopia
12-03-2009, 00:04
I hate public education, but I'd rather have money going to that instead of bombs. The "defense" budget should be cut by at least 75%, IMO.
Worked really well in East Timor.
Ryadn
12-03-2009, 02:19
I got my pink slip last Friday. I don't know how many my school had... at least 5.
Sarkhaan
12-03-2009, 03:08
Boston Public pink slipped all provisional teachers (BP no longer does a standard "tenure" system, but considers teachers "provisional" for 4 years, then "permanent" after that)

They plan to reduce the number of teachers by as many as 700 this year.


Looks like Sarky will be working the Tucc a bit longer... :(
The Black Forrest
12-03-2009, 03:22
I got my pink slip last Friday. I don't know how many my school had... at least 5.

Sorry to hear that. Which district are you in?
East Glacia
12-03-2009, 03:48
Give the kids their books!
greed and death
12-03-2009, 03:48
glad i graduate after summer session. wont affect me at all.
Death to threat posers
12-03-2009, 04:21
You might have known what i was going to say by my name but i say:
Kill them... They're trying to destroy your country by stupidity...

pm me if you know but are we supposed to say what we think or made our country to be?
Sarkhaan
12-03-2009, 04:23
You might have known what i was going to say by my name but i say:
Kill them... They're trying to destroy your country by stupidity...

pm me if you know but are we supposed to say what we think or made our country to be?

this forum is out of character. Say what you think, not your imaginary leader or whatever it is those weirdos in the role playing forums do...
Ryadn
12-03-2009, 07:18
this forum is out of character. Say what you think, not your imaginary leader or whatever it is those weirdos in the role playing forums do...

*makes obligatory "there's a game connected to this forum?" joke*

Okay, now I'm going to pass out.
Post Liminality
12-03-2009, 07:27
The fat needs to be trimmed at the administrative level. Get rid of the trustees who are taking up room. Get rid of people working at the board of education who aren't teachers or educators. Anyone who is just taking up room should be the first to go. Teachers should not be foremost on the chopping board.

...Wha? How will teachers teach without multiple people telling them to do multiple, and often contradictory, things?! We can always have teachers consolidate subjects and look after larger classrooms, administrators, on the other hand, are already stretched so thin!

I will never understand why it is always education that is the first thing to get the ax when a economies take a swing. This seems counter-intuitive to me at an incredible deep level.
The One Eyed Weasel
12-03-2009, 08:46
...Wha? How will teachers teach without multiple people telling them to do multiple, and often contradictory, things?! We can always have teachers consolidate subjects and look after larger classrooms, administrators, on the other hand, are already stretched so thin!

I will never understand why it is always education that is the first thing to get the ax when a economies take a swing. This seems counter-intuitive to me at an incredible deep level.

It's easier for the people in power to control a dumber population.

Duh.
Ledgersia
12-03-2009, 19:37
Worked really well in East Timor.

A) The U.S. spends more on its military than all other countries combined.
B) The U.S. has over 700 bases around the world and military personnel in 130 countries.

Ending our empire would already cut costs by a lot.
Forglar
12-03-2009, 21:52
If most school districts are run in the same manner as the one I grew up in (and I see no reason why they wouldn't be), administrative and program-level people (i.e. ones who don't actually interact with children) are the first hires in good times and the last cuts in bad times. Why? If district officials cut the dead weight, no one cares except the dead weight. But if the district cuts teachers, class sizes swell and parents get angry, which may result in more funding the following year. Districts always prefer more funding over less funding, even if it means they have to waste the additional amount on something useless.
East Tofu
13-03-2009, 14:28
My kids school had 6 pink slips. Anybody else (US that is) seen this happen?

Normally; I would speak ill of the Repubs for all their we love school because children are the future BS but the demos are working hand in hand on this one.

Education always seems to be the first thing to cut.

*sighs*

Wait.

The President is a Democrat.
The Senate is Democractically controlled
The House is even more Democratically controlled

It's all Democrat, all the time now. If you have a complaint about funding being cut, make sure you complain about the people who actually are in control.
greed and death
13-03-2009, 14:50
Wait.

The President is a Democrat.
The Senate is Democractically controlled
The House is even more Democratically controlled

It's all Democrat, all the time now. If you have a complaint about funding being cut, make sure you complain about the people who actually are in control.

schools are in the hands of the states so don't forget to blame those governments too.
East Tofu
13-03-2009, 14:52
schools are in the hands of the states so don't forget to blame those governments too.

My state has a Democratic governor.

I suppose school funding is also a county level thing. And our county is Democrat...
greed and death
13-03-2009, 14:55
My state has a Democratic governor.

I suppose school funding is also a county level thing. And our county is Democrat...

my understanding is it is state aid and local funding being cut.
the states depend more sales tax.
and local districts depend on property tax.
both have a tendency to drop in recession.