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there have bin many people in this world
but only a small hand full can be called truly evil. who do you think are the worst four humans ever conceived.

mine are
~4 Vlad III also known as Dracula or Vlad the Impaler for his cruel and unforgiving punishments for the slightest bit of injustice.

~3 Joseph Mangele for his brutal lab experiments on Jewish citizens and twins for fun.

~2 Joseph Stalin for the millions died in the death camps, then forced to fight for him in WWII and then killed.

~1 Jack the ripper for random killing spree in the streets of London.

cool story bro

cool story bro

Wut?

As far as the OP:

Wut?

Wut?

As far as the OP:

Wut?

tis my new thing

The four worst people in history are all named 'Joe'. Coincidence? I think not!

The four worst people in history are all named 'Joe'. Coincidence? I think not!

Perhaps....a joe-incidence?

*puts index finger to mouth*

Perhaps....a joe-incidence?

*puts index finger to mouth*

Pull over.

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inb4 bush

inb4 bush
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/27Patti/Shrub.jpg

But not before shrub...

cool story bro
People who use the word "bro" are the worst kind of people.

People who fail to appropriately capitalize are the second.

People who use the word "bro" are the worst kind of people.

People who fail to appropriately capitalize are the second.

That's the way the meme is, I didn't make it.

That's the way the meme is, I didn't make it.
And all evil Nazis working at evil Nazi Concentration Camps didn't evilly make Nazism, but they are still evil Nazis, you evil Nazi.

Nazi. Evil.

there have bin many people in this world
but only a small hand full can be called truly evil. who do you think are the worst four humans ever conceived.

mine are
~4 Vlad III also known as Dracula or Vlad the Impaler for his cruel and unforgiving punishments for the slightest bit of injustice.

~3 Joseph Mangele for his brutal lab experiments on Jewish citizens and twins for fun.

~2 Joseph Stalin for the millions died in the death camps, then forced to fight for him in WWII and then killed.

~1 Jack the ripper for random killing spree in the streets of London.

What, no Hitler? This is one of the places it's okay to mention him.

Osama would also make the list, I bet.

What about Stalin?

Osama would also make the list, I bet.

oh please, Osama is, at best, indirectly responsible for the death of, if we are creative, maybe 10,000 people.

A pipsqueak in the realm of tyrants.

The four worst people in history are all named 'Joe'. Coincidence? I think not!
obligatory 'Joe the Plumber' reference here.
Yet another reason why not to vote for him.

tis my new thing

cool story bro

These guys...

http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/1111/1111_woodland_critters.jpg

What about Stalin?

Is it just me or is NSG getting lazier?

To OP:

I love how Jack the ripper is worse than Stalin, Hitler and every other bastard who pointlessly murder millions.

I'll say Mao...it is telling that as soon he died, the new Chinese leadership quickly decided to undo practically everything he ever did.

oh please, Osama is, at best, indirectly responsible for the death of, if we are creative, maybe 10,000 people.

A pipsqueak in the realm of tyrants.

And yet he's the most wanted person in the world...

LG because he pied everyone on the internet.

And yet he's the most wanted person in the world...

Most tyrants are dead and Omar al-Bashir notwithstanding they're generally unarrestable anyway, so being 'most wanted' isn't all that meaningful.

LG because he pied everyone on the internet.

You know you liked it.

You know you liked it.

thank you sir May I have another ?

thank you sir May I have another ?

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yummm pie

Pol Pot.

Pol Pot.

Sounds like a side dish. ;)

Pol Pot.

most definitely, that guy was an evil bastard.

As to Vlad the Impaler, he was one of the most important figures in European history, if it wasn't for him, all of Europe would be part of the ottoman empire, and the ottomans were bastards. He definitely does not deserve to be on this list.

Stalin wasn't evil, he just had a tumor in his brain which made him insane. He actually did a lot of good for Russia. Although because he made Russia powerful, he also made them the enemy of the US and started the cold war.

Jack the ripper killed prostitutes, and only prostitutes, he wasn't evil, he was conservative.

Mao wasn't evil he was just kind of dumb. He did something right (the long march) but then wanted something else to be remembered by, so he pushed a ton of new ideas, a lot of which were bad in the hope that one would be brilliant. The Chinese government says he was 60% right 40% wrong. Because I live in Hong Kong, I know that this isn't what the people think. In some parts he is seen as a genius who was 100% right, but most people think he was 30% right 70% wrong, which still doesn't qualify for a tyrant.

Osama was just a pawn, and the Taliban probably killed him already. Or asked him to kill himself.

there have bin many people in this world
but only a small hand full can be called truly evil. who do you think are the worst four humans ever conceived.

mine are
~4 Vlad III also known as Dracula or Vlad the Impaler for his cruel and unforgiving punishments for the slightest bit of injustice.

~3 Joseph Mangele for his brutal lab experiments on Jewish citizens and twins for fun.

~2 Joseph Stalin for the millions died in the death camps, then forced to fight for him in WWII and then killed.

~1 Jack the ripper for random killing spree in the streets of London.

:rolleyes:
This, coupled with you trying to blame the Nazi atrocities on Mengele (not Mangele!) instead of Hitler, makes me think that you're quite knowledge-challenged (and also grammar-challenged).

Mine are, in no particular order: Pol Pot, Francisco Macías Nguema, Adolf Hitler, and Rachel Carson.

The Dark Lord Sauron. No, not Obama, the real Sauron. He was so mean to the orcs.

Jack the Ripper wasn't even a very impressive serial killer (5 prostitutes? that's the best he could do?! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer))), how did he manage to beat out such high calibre contestants, as Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot to the top spot? Is there no justice in this world?

there have bin many people in this world
but only a small hand full can be called truly evil. who do you think are the worst four humans ever conceived.

mine are
~4 Vlad III also known as Dracula or Vlad the Impaler for his cruel and unforgiving punishments for the slightest bit of injustice.

~3 Joseph Mangele for his brutal lab experiments on Jewish citizens and twins for fun.

~2 Joseph Stalin for the millions died in the death camps, then forced to fight for him in WWII and then killed.

~1 Jack the ripper for random killing spree in the streets of London.


1 - Hitler
2 - Stalin
3 - Pol Pot
4 - Mao Tse Tung

What about Stalin?

Joseph Stalin is there, number 2 because i also respect him and almost admire his brilliance.

Strangely, when I go to think about the evilest of the evil I don't think in raw numbers. At some point the magnitude of killing millions is numbing and one must wonder if individuals like Stalin and Hitler truly grasped what they were doing. Certainly they were responsible for some of the world's greatest evils, but were they the most evil people? Who can know?

I think the greatest evil doesn't result in body counts. I think it results in damage to humanity on a deeper level. Human death, while tragic, is nothing out of the ordinary. People die all the time at human hands. The truly evil are those who cause a form of harm to human kind and KNOW they're doing it.

And that's why I don't think we can know who they are, usually. The truly evil remain in the shadows and the likes of us will never know they were there but by the damage they leave in their wake, and we won't know the source.

:rolleyes:
This, coupled with you trying to blame the Nazi atrocities on Mengele (not Mangele!) instead of Hitler, makes me think that you're quite knowledge-challenged (and also grammar-challenged).

yes, im grammar challenged, but i do not blame the holocaust on Mengele. yes Adolph was a great horrible man. but he was also a fucked up retard pussy. i feel Mangele out shines him because his experiments (if thats what they could be called) were so horrible that he deserves the spot. if i gave five id give it to Adolph. jack the ripper was in because i didn't know anything really about him and wanted to see how people would react in hopes of learning something about him.

if you know anything about him you know he was both the "angel of death" and "Mengele the protector"

:rolleyes:
This, coupled with you trying to blame the Nazi atrocities on Mengele (not Mangele!) instead of Hitler, makes me think that you're quite knowledge-challenged (and also grammar-challenged).

With the exception of Stalin, there don't seem to be any real major players on that list...

:rolleyes:
This, coupled with you trying to blame the Nazi atrocities on Mengele (not Mangele!) instead of Hitler, makes me think that you're quite knowledge-challenged (and also grammar-challenged).

To be fair, Risottia, Hitler may have ordered Nazi atrocities, but people like Mengele actually carried them out (and highly enjoyed doing so, I might add). This is not to minimize Hitler's evil or to say that Mengele is more evil than Hitler - but when you're talking about Nazis, the degree of evil is so great that who is more evil than who is irrelevant, because that's a level almost no one can stoop to, no matter how hard they try.

Jack the ripper killed prostitutes, and only prostitutes, he wasn't evil, he was conservative.

"Hey, man, I killed some people, but that's cool, 'cuz I'm conservative and they were prostitutes."

Okay. Right then. Carry on. :rolleyes:

yes, im grammar challenged, but i do not blame the holocaust on Mengele. yes Adolph was a great horrible man. but he was also a fucked up retard pussy. i feel Mangele out shines him because his experiments (if thats what they could be called) were so horrible that he deserves the spot. if i gave five id give it to Adolph. jack the ripper was in because i didn't know anything really about him and wanted to see how people would react in hopes of learning something about him.

if you know anything about him you know he was both the "angel of death" and "Mengele the protector"

1.So you're basically saying that the Holocaust was Hitler's responsibility, but the Holocaust as a whole isn't a greater evil than a part of it (Mengele's experiments)? Meh.
2.Stalin, while he had an awful lot of people killed, didn't "force people to fight in WW2" more than Churchill did. Hitler forced the Soviets to fight WW2: it was Hitler who started a war of annihilation (not just a war of conquest: annihilation and extermination) against the Soviet Union (breaking the non-aggression pact), and not the other way around. So, actually, Stalin forced the Soviets to fight less than the British government did with Britons (it was Britain who declared war on Germany after the invasion of Poland). Stalin pwned the Nazis, and that's the only positive thing he did in all his life. No wait, I think that once he said "spassibo" to a butler, and he actually meant it.

To be fair, Risottia, Hitler may have ordered Nazi atrocities, but people like Mengele actually carried them out (and highly enjoyed doing so, I might add).

Same goes for Stalin. He may have ordered the purges and the deportations, but other people carried them out. And no, I don't think that Berja personally commanded firing squads.

Is "evil" about ultimate responsibility or about direct actions? This is an interesting issue.
One could use the "Nuremberg defence" and roll the buck up and up the gerarchy till it stops on Hitler's, or Stalin's, desk. Or one could say "you should refuse immoral/illegal orders anyway, no matter what" (and you knew that something unpleasant was going to happen to you if you refused Hitler's or Stalin's orders).

most definitely, that guy was an evil bastard.

As to Vlad the Impaler, he was one of the most important figures in European history, if it wasn't for him, all of Europe would be part of the ottoman empire, and the ottomans were bastards. He definitely does not deserve to be on this list.

Stalin wasn't evil, he just had a tumor in his brain which made him insane. He actually did a lot of good for Russia. Although because he made Russia powerful, he also made them the enemy of the US and started the cold war.

Jack the ripper killed prostitutes, and only prostitutes, he wasn't evil, he was conservative.

Mao wasn't evil he was just kind of dumb. He did something right (the long march) but then wanted something else to be remembered by, so he pushed a ton of new ideas, a lot of which were bad in the hope that one would be brilliant. The Chinese government says he was 60% right 40% wrong. Because I live in Hong Kong, I know that this isn't what the people think. In some parts he is seen as a genius who was 100% right, but most people think he was 30% right 70% wrong, which still doesn't qualify for a tyrant.

Osama was just a pawn, and the Taliban probably killed him already. Or asked him to kill himself.

this just proves perception is not the only thing thats needed to decide anything. Stalin did raise russia to a power, but it also brought poland despair along with some other small countries.

1. Rick Astley, or however you spell his last name.

2. Uwe Boll

3. Josef Stalin

4. Adolf Hitler

5. The collective hive mind of NSG.

Jack the Ripper wasn't even a very impressive serial killer (5 prostitutes? that's the best he could do?! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer)))
Some would argue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_Ripper:_The_Final_Solution), and some would run with (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Hell), that there only needed to be five killings.

Same goes for Stalin. He may have ordered the purges and the deportations, but other people carried them out. And no, I don't think that Berja personally commanded firing squads.

Yeah, that's true.

Is "evil" about ultimate responsibility or about direct actions? This is an interesting issue.

I think both.

~2 Joseph Stalin for the millions died in the death camps, then forced to fight for him in WWII and then killed.
They were zombies?!
O
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:eek:

How about Pinochet? His body count may not have been as high as some of the others, but he called in his security chief every morning to ask him how many trade unionists he'd murdered.

How about Pinochet? His body count may not have been as high as some of the others, but he called in his security chief every morning to ask him how many trade unionists he'd murdered.

Yay, definitely evil.

Also, the torturers during Chilean and Argentinian dictatorships clearly deserve a mention.

By the way, I'd like to nominate Rodolfo Graziani (various atrocities bordering on genocides in the italian african colonies).

would be evil overlords are pikers compared to the statistical consensus of poorly thought out, supposedly, good intentions.

Yay, definitely evil.

Also, the torturers during Argentinian dictatorship clearly deserve a mention.

Corrected it for you :p

Perhaps....a joe-incidence?

*puts index finger to mouth*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/NS%20forum%20macros/katsseal-1.jpg

there have bin many people in this world
but only a small hand full can be called truly evil. who do you think are the worst four humans ever conceived.

mine are
~4 Vlad III also known as Dracula or Vlad the Impaler for his cruel and unforgiving punishments for the slightest bit of injustice.

~3 Joseph Mangele for his brutal lab experiments on Jewish citizens and twins for fun.

~2 Joseph Stalin for the millions died in the death camps, then forced to fight for him in WWII and then killed.

~1 Jack the ripper for random killing spree in the streets of London.

Jack the Ripper? Come on man...there've been far worse people than him. Pol Pot, Pinochet, Leopoldo Galtieri, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Willi Stoph, Walter Ulbricht, Mao Tse-Tung, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam Hussein, Gamal Abdel Nasser, Osama Bin Laden, Muqtada al-Sadr, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Ghengis Khan, Pope Urban II, General Assad, Francisco Franco, King Louis the XVI, and INNUMERABLE others. And you pick those guys? Stalin, yes absolutely I agree. But the others??!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/NS%20forum%20macros/katsseal-1.jpg

Way to steal my schtick man :tongue:

I did that about two years ago for awhile. Ifreanne won an extraordinary amount of them lol

I'd like to nominate Dong Zhuo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_zhuo) for the "sepcial mention" part. He's probably not quite enough to reach the top four, but he's certainly ahead of Jack the Ripper.