NationStates Jolt Archive

Has anybody written a constitution for their nation or region?

I'm writing one for my nation (Sovereign Unity), it's half way done, and I'm planning one for my region (No Mans Land). I know the region Sarasota already has a constitution.

Here's my preamble,

"The Servants of the States, united in our shared institutions, state our sovereignty and organize the unity of the States and Servants as the United States of Sovereign Unity in order to insure life, liberty, and the opportunities to strive for the wants of life."

I have one.

We, the people of Galloism, give our president Jack Gallo all rights and powers of this nation. We trust and give ourselves, our children, and all our possessions to the idea of a great state headed by our great leader, Jack Gallo. Long live Jack Gallo!

I'm working on one.

One of my other nations is in a region that has one, but unfortunately activity there has dropped below the level at which it's relevant.

I'm working on one for this nation, I know basically how it's supposed to wok but still need to sort out some of the details and get the wording right.

why not just follow the British example and not have one ;)

I had one once... Before I quit II.

My nation is dictated by the Total Logic machine so we don't need a constitution.

Do you guys want to post your constitutions or what you have of them so that we can critique and debate them?

why not just follow the British example and not have one ;)

We do have one, in an odd sort of way.

why not just follow the British example and not have one ;)Because if one's nation is involved in the World Assembly then being able to point at why its government couldn't support certain proposed resolutions -- even if it wanted to do so -- is nice.

No Names Left Damn It

^Love it

Why don't you guys, Britain, have your head of state be elected? It's very weird to me, an American, that you still have kings and queens in government.

No Names Left Damn It

^Love it

Why don't you guys, Britain, have your head of state be elected? It's very weird to me, an American, that you still have kings and queens in government.
...

Do you guys want to post your constitutions or what you have of them so that we can critique and debate them?

the "nations" we have are supposed to represent our views?

nah your really in the wrong forum for it

We do have one, in an odd sort of way.

yes but its always nice to save the effort of making one :tongue:

Because if one's nation is involved in the World Assembly then being able to point at why its government couldn't support certain proposed resolutions -- even if it wanted to do so -- is nice.

surely you could just point at the gross violations of national sovereignty?

Why don't you guys, Britain, have your head of state be elected? It's very weird to me, an American, that you still have kings and queens in government.

works, makes us a ton of cash and they for all intents and purposes are nothing but a figure head

It's very weird to me, an American, that you still have kings and queens in government.

It's very weird to me, too, but the monarchy has no real power, and brings in a lot of money from foreign tourists.

I know that the British monarch is a figurehead.

Our USA Flag code shows the American view of monarchs. It's why I don't understand why you put up with yours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing, unless it is the ensign responding to a salute from a ship of a foreign nation. This tradition comes from the 1908 Summer Olympics in London, where countries were asked to dip their flag to King Edward VII: the American team flag bearer, Ralph Rose, refused, teammate Martin Sheridan famously proclaiming that "this flag dips to no earthly king."[1] This tradition was codified as early as the 1911 U.S. Army drill regulations.

I posted my drafted constitution here (http://ussu.wikidot.com/), its not written like a normal constitution yet. At the bottom is an explanation; it's not that good though. An easier to understand version of my constitution is here (http://ussu.wikidot.com/simple).

Comments Please.

Although there's no constitution, the first section would resemble the UDHR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDHR) and the second would resemble the american constitution. They wouldn't be identical, of course, but...

My nation is dictated by the Total Logic machine so we don't need a constitution.
Same here, though our logic machine has its very own definition of "logic".

Ours is actually the polar opposite of the US Constitution. Ie, Congress shall make no law -> Congress shall only make laws

Definately a work in progress, but here's the working draft of the first article:
The Constitution Of Daistallia 2104

Preamble:
Knowing that only those who both actively exercise and actively defend their freedom remain free, we resolve to strengthen our liberties and democracy, in order to establish and promote freedom and democracy for both ourselves and our posterity. We, the various peoples of the Confederated Cantons of Daistallia 2104, in order to secure and provide for ourselves and our posterity said liberty and democracy all over this land, by promoting the domestic peace and the common defense, by securing the blessings of justice, and by protecting the rights of individual citizens, for both ourselves and our posterity, do hearby establish and promulgate this Constitution.

Article I: General Provisions
Provision 1: Purpose
(1) The Confederation protects the liberty and rights of the people and safeguards the independence and security of the Confederated Cantons.
(2) The Confederation promotes common welfare and prevents unwarrented intrusion, or use of force.
(3) The Confederation ensures equal opportunities for all citizens to the extent possible.

Provision 2: Rule of Law
(1) The law is the basis and limitation for all activities of the state.
(2) State activity must be in the public interest and proportional.
(3) State institutions and private persons must act in good faith.

Provision 3: Individual and Social Responsibility
(1) Every being is responsible for themselves.
(2) No responsible adult being shall be held responsible for the acts of another responsible adult being.

Provision 4: Soverenty and Confederation
(1) The Cantons shall be a sovereign state to be known as The Conederatated Cantons of Daistallia 2104.
(2) Each Canton shall retain its sovereignty, freedom, and independence.
(3) Every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not expressly delegated to this Confederation, shall either be delegated to the people or to the cantons.
(4)The several Cantons hereby enter into a league with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them.

Provision 5:
(1) The Confederation shall be voluntary.
(2) Any Canton wishing to server it's ties may do so according to the provisions of this constitution.

Provision 6: Supremacy of the Constitution
(1) This Constitution is the supreme law of the land and any law enacted by the Legislature after the commencement of this Constitution which is inconsistent with this Constitution shall. to the extent of the inconsistency, be void.
(2) This constitution shall be the fundamental law and the basis and limitation for all activities of the state.
(3) All state activity shall be carried out be in the public interest and shall be proportional.
(4) All state institutions and private persons shall act in good faith in carrying the provisions set forth in this constituition.

Provision 7: No Surrender of Sovereignty
(1) There shall be no surrender or transfer, either wholly or in part, of the sovereignty of this republic as an independent nation.
(2) Furthermore, there shall be no relinquishment of control over the armed forces or police forces.
(3) The government shall respect international law.
(4) The government shall not enter any treaty which contradicts this constitution.

Provision 8: Participation in Co-operative International Schemes
(1) Nothing in the precceeding Provisions shall be construed as precluding the government from participating or co-operating in international enterprises or undertakings.
(2) Enterprises of various nature with other sovereign states, international bodies, or organizations, whether economic, financial, industrial, social, cultural, educational or other, whose object or purpose is, or appears to be, beneficial or advantageous to the Federation of Daistallia 2104 in any way, shall be permissible.
(3) Enterprises of various nature with other sovereign states, international bodies, or organizations which contradict this constitution, are impremissible.

Article I
Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted declare that there shall be no constitution for the democratic dictatorship of Hydesland, for it is agreed that they are fucking pointless.

We tried to write one, but we kept eating the crayons. :)

I've written constitutions for other fictional countries I've invented, but never for Soheran.

why not just follow the British example and not have one
Uncodified!

*explodes*

We tried to write one, but we kept eating the crayons. :)

:::gives more crayons:::

It isn't so much a constitution, but this is the single document from which all rules and government authority in H N Fiddlebottoms VIII is derived:

I, Paul P. "The Paul" Paulson, current President of Sicherheitburg, have this day lost a poker match to H N Fiddlebottoms VIII, and in order to satisfy the debts incurred, I do hereby grant him full kingship and legal ownership of the country over which I was formerly president. Ownership of this country, formerly known as Sicherheitburg and now to be renamed H N Fiddlebottoms VIII, is to include not only all public and private land within the borders but also rulership over the people inhabiting said area.

Here is the Preamble and First Article of the Sovereign Unity Constitution:

The Statements of the Servants of the United States of Sovereign Unity

The Servants of the States, united in our shared institutions, state our sovereignty and organize the unity of the States and Servants as the United States of Sovereign Unity, the USSU, in order to insure life, liberty, and the opportunities to strive for the wants of life.

The Servants’ Statement of the Organization of the United States of Sovereign Unity

The USSU’s sovereignty is stated by the Servants and is separated between the Servants, Sovereigns, and Sovereign Officials.

The USSU

The USSU is one localized and unitary state. One Sovereign serves as a substitute of the Servants of the USSU. One Sovereign Official serves as the substitute of the Servants and the Sovereigns of the USSU in the institution of the limited offices that standardize the society according to standards set by the Servants and the Sovereigns of the USSU.

The USSU-States of the USSU

The USSU is organized into ten USSU-States. Ten Sovereign Officials independently serve as the substitute of the Servants and the Sovereigns of the USSU-States in the institution of the limited offices that standardize the society according to standards set by the Servants and the Sovereigns of the USSU-States.

The States of the USSU

The ten USSU-States are organized into one hundred States. One hundred Sovereigns independently serve as a substitute of the Servants of the States. One hundred Sovereign Officials independently serve as the substitute of the Servants and the Sovereigns of the States in the institution of the limited offices that standardize the society according to standards set by the Servants and the Sovereigns of the States.

The State-State Localities of the USSU

The one hundred States are organized into one thousand State-State Localities. One thousand Sovereign Officials independently serve as the substitute of the Servants and the Sovereigns of the States in the institution of the limited offices that standardize the society according to standards set by the Servants and the Sovereigns of the States.

The State Localities of the USSU

The thousand State-State Localities are organized into ten thousand State Localities. Ten thousand Sovereigns independently serve as a substitute of the Servants of the State Localities. Ten thousand Sovereign Officials independently serve as the substitute of the Servants and the Sovereigns of the State Localities in the institution of the limited offices that standardize the society according to standards set by the Servants and the Sovereigns of the States Localities.

The State Locality-Localities of the USSU

The ten thousand State Localities are organized into one hundred thousand State Locality-Localities. One hundred thousand Sovereign Officials independently serve as the substitute of the Servants and the Sovereigns of the State Locality-Localities in the institution of the limited offices that standardize the society according to standards set by the Servants and the Sovereigns of the States Locality-Localities.

The Localities of the USSU

The one hundred thousand State Locality-Localities are organized into one million Localities. One million Sovereigns independently serve as a substitute of the Servants of the Localities.

Because if one's nation is involved in the World Assembly then being able to point at why its government couldn't support certain proposed resolutions -- even if it wanted to do so -- is nice.surely you could just point at the gross violations of national sovereignty?
Do that very often and people just start pointing out that nobody's forcing you to join the WA and that it's easy enough to quit: Having a more concrete rationale for one's objections is harder for them to argue with...

Do that very often and people just start pointing out that nobody's forcing you to join the WA and that it's easy enough to quit: Having a more concrete rationale for one's objections is harder for them to argue with...

Quite true.

Constitution of Cameroi
(current draft)

1) no person, place or thing, exists solely at the pleasure of any soverign nation, but rather soverign nations are justified in thier existence only to the extent that they willingly serve the bennifit and well being of real persons, places and things, to the fullest extent of their capacities to do so. nor may, under the constitution and statutes of cameroi, any economic interest nor enterprise.

2) this nation's highest priority shall be the health, happiness and well being of every awareness dwelling, residing, or passing through, within its boundries. its second priority shall be the creating and maintaining of such tangable, physical, infrastructure as is directly usefull and bennificial to real people, places and things, and making and keeping such infrastructure as compatable and harmonious as is within its capacity and that of the most current objective knowlenge, with nature's cycles of renewal and the mystery and diversity of its natural environments.

any and all concern with its own perpetuation of this nation as an entity, nor that of any consideration of symbolic value and its circulation, shall be subservient and tertiary to those prior, higher, and primary principals, purposes and intrests. every resource within its command or capacity to which it is able, shall be didicated FIRST to those first two principals. the first of which to encompass but not be limited to, the prevention of death, serious injury or disease, resaulting from malnutrition, death; serious injury, or disease, resaulting from hypothermia; and death, serious injury or disease resaulting from violent contention and dissaggreement or any other sort of belligerance, between and amongst its citizens.

3a) this nation shall make no law restricting the crossing of its boarders by any unarmed civilian, with the sole exception of persons convicted with its own boarders only, of major crimes, and whose punishment for their crime or crimes, is exile.

b) this nation shall make no law restricting the possession of any article or substance, in personal only quantities.
b1) this shall in no way prevent the enactment of statutes restricting (or outright banning) the trade for valuable consideration, mass production, nor large scale importation of any article nor substance deemed undesirably by a majority vote of its citizens

c) this nation shall make no law, nor combination of laws whose resault in combination is, restricting the forms nor construction methods of shelter a person my claim as their residence.
c1)further restriction and requirement MAY however be imposed upon the TRANSFER of
possession and occupation of such structures when valuable consideration is envolved.

d) this nation shall subsidise no economic interest nor industry, whether directly nor inkind, at the expense of any real person, place or other entity, including the diversity of less sentient life forms and natural cycles of renewal.

e) laws and statutes shall be enacted and enforced however, such as to prevent any individual or group of persons, even should they be a majority, from impinging upon the basic rights and liberties of other individual persons and living and or self awaire entities. this shall be the sole purpose of any and all restrictions imposed upon individual awairnessess.

f) LAND LAW:

all land shall be considered possessed in and of itself, by nature itself, and the needs and uses of environment in its natural state upon it, other then that immediately surrounding spaces constructed to serve sentient need or gratification, in such manor as to be consistent, compatable and harmonious with the need to protect such natural cycles of renewal as life itself utterly depends upon.

f1) this nation may appropriate neccessary land to secure rights of way for infrastructure, consistent with articles 1 and 2 above.

f2) all land not within 500 feet of any structure, any part of with is used as a dwelling place, nor 250 feet of any other structure, save such enclosures neccesitated by the husbandry of domestic livestock, shall remain public and unfenced. such "private use zones" shall not abutt, but shall be required to leave public corridors of passage between them, passable to all sentient persons and all other terrestrial life forms, except within urbanized areas, where multiple occupancy and multiple function sturctures may themselves abutt and be contiguous, at the pleasure of local regulation.

f3) all restrictions upon the placement of structures shall be consistent with and for the purpose of, environmental stability and compatability.

4) form of government:

a) the highest and only authority that may impose legal restrictions directly on individual citizens is the most local. this shall consist of a council consisting of an odd number of persons, no less then three, nor greater then 11, proportional to the population of the geographic area it administers, whose members are choosen anually by plurality vote, from among the residents of the area defining its jurisdiction.

b) each federated level exists to serve and coordinate the intersts of more local units collected within its jurisdiction (consistent with the principals outlined in articles 1,2, and 3, deliniated above), down to and including the national level, and it is the recomendation of this nation that such a system continue beyond it to encompass the planet and possibly to a federation of solar systems and their worlds beyond.

c) each local level my enact and enable such subsidiary bodies as it deems useful and neccessary the happiness, health, and well being of its citizens, these may include but are not restricted to, all manor of agencies providing public services at the local level. (examples would include parks, libraries, local public transportation, schools and medical facilities)

d) regeonal and national levels my create special districts, crossing local boundries, principally to administer physical, tangable, national and regeonal infrastructure, principally those of transportation, energy and communication. these are the sole exception to the otherwise absolute primacy of localness, and MUST be held consistent with the needs of the natural environment and its cycles of renewal, upon which all life utterly depends.

I am working on one for Rejistania. Here is what I have so far:

KANAHAME'tan

Tani'he'ny Rejistaniha xen'vahid tani'xen mi'linux ve mi'likhat,
xen'estavili kir'het rivarenda'sy 29/09/13'ra yke:

LEKAX'het'ny JAVE REJISTANIHA TANI

§1. Hej'ny hakim min'linux 'sanja kansu.

§2. Hej'ny hakim min'yva tore'ta'hen timki.

§3a. Hej'ny hakim min'linux asav'tan'ny ve hadada'tan'ny ve demna'tan'ny ve visko'tan'ny.
§3b. Hej'ny hakim min'ma 'seve linux'het'ny jilih 'ameri'sy ve niva'sy ve jada'sy ve sy'het'ny luru, min'hasver'ta kansu'het luru nka.
§3c. Ekeki'het ve exko'het min'linux.
§3d. Linux'het'ny jilih min'ma 'rala'kaxva, min'vasu xkyhij'het'han aru'tan tani rejistaniha nka.

§4. Hej'ny hakim min'alte lekax'tan'ra. Lekax'het'ta mi'nisne jataru'tan'ra ji memy'tan'ra ji demna'tan'ra. Hej'ny hakim min'yva disdelekax'het valumu'ra ve kansu'ra, makahekusu temen mi'lil aji nka.

§5. Tani'he'ny rejistaniha hakim min'linux 'isa tani'ra kaxva'veri kalesa ve rekijo ve nanti. Linux'het jilih mi'rala'kaxva sexina'sy disdelekax.

§6a. Hej'ny hakim min'linux visko'tan jolu ve jolu'ta nitam'reja ve hasver'ta'reja.
§6b. Linux'het jilih mi'ma 'rala'kaxva, min'vasu xkyhij'het'han aru'tan tani rejistaniha nka.

§7. Kovomin rejistaniha heven'ny'ra hakim mi'ma'ta 'estavilir lekax'het, mi'estavilir ji mi'kaska relikijo'het hite ji relikijo'tan.

§8. Tani'he'ny rejistaniha hakim min'linux 'naiken kate'het'veri. Naiken'het hadi liu mi'rala'kaxka ena'het'ny'sy hej'ny luru.

§9. Tani'he'ny rejistaniha hakim min'linux 'ines jasika'het'ny ve liside'het'ny jeneseve ve asene'het'ny luru, min'va'han'ta 'isa lekax'het'sis ji 'vasu xkyhij'het'han aru'tan tani rejistaniha nka.

§10a. Tani'he'ny rejistaniha hakim min'linux 'xetsu oyki'het ve exko'het oyki'han.
§10b. Oyki'het shensa mi'ma 'rala'estavilir disdelekax'het valumu'ra aji.
§10c. Erid'het asene'het'han divensi shensa min'aru'ta.

§11a. Enju'het mi'ma'ta 'rala'njinji.
§11b. Eke'het'ny vexivalumu min'ma disde'het minjialari'he kalesa'ra luru'ta ve oyki'het'mi mi'asu'ra altena kalesa'ra. Eke'het'ny vexivalumu min'ena makahekusu salan. Het'ny ki'rala'eke min'aru la'liside ama.

§12a. Hej'ny hakim min'linux lil'tan ve lilkir'tan.
§12b. Linux'het'ny min'rala'dimensije lekax'het'ny'reja tera'het'han hej'tan ve tani'het. Min'rala'dimensije lekax'het exkira tani.

§13. Tani'he'ny rejistaniha hakim min'ma'ta 'han'veri iti'het 'aru tani'he'ny rejistaniha.

§14. Hej'ny hakim min'ma 'viikamsa ve 'elak saovi'reja ve kene'reja kovomin'het'him'ny'han kivsi ve kovomin'het'him'han'ny ineslekax.

§15. Hej'ny hakim min'linux shensa-ati invorimatije.

§16. Lama'he'ny 'enju rejistaniha hakim min'yva exkola'tan. Kovomin'ny tani ve nanti ve rekijo min'ma 'estavilir ji 'dimensije kurikulum'ny.

§17a. Tani'het rejistaniha mi'aru demokiratije rekijo.
§17b. Tani'he'ny min'aru tes'het shensa tani. Min'rala'seve mi xetsukovomin'ny ve rivarenda'ny ve utviikamsa'ny.
§17c. Hakim'he mi'linux 'seve reja'ny 'ut hej'ny mi'xan ve mi'va'han 'ykasi lekax'het'ny jave jilih ji Rejistaniha tani linux ve demokiratije.

What language is that?^

I made you a constitution. But I eated it :(

I havent written one...but if I did it would likely simply mirror the US Constitution with some bits from the Westminster System thrown in...

What language is that?^

I think he made it up himself.

Hey I go an Idea.... who wants to throw a Constitution writing contest ?


we have neo art and two of the other lawyers on the forums pick the top 3 then each of the top 3 gets a constitution thread where NSG ask questions and debates the merits and flaws. of each. then we finish with a NSG poll voting for the best one.

What language is that?^

Rejistanian. The language of my NS nation.

Hey I go an Idea.... who wants to throw a Constitution writing contest ?


we have neo art and two of the other lawyers on the forums pick the top 3 then each of the top 3 gets a constitution thread where NSG ask questions and debates the merits and flaws. of each. then we finish with a NSG poll voting for the best one.

I can set up a wiki so you guys can post it on there and edit it when ever you work on it.

Rejistanian. The language of my NS nation.

I thought that, but it is somewhat organized so I didn't want to offend you if that was your language.

I can set up a wiki so you guys can post it on there and edit it when ever you work on it.



See if more people are interested. I have a set scenario in mind. otherwise too much variety would make judging difficult.

I can set up a wiki so you guys can post it on there and edit it when ever you work on it.

Heh. I may be up for polishing off my constitution for a contest, but by Dog, I AIN'T gonna submit it to wiki tinkering at the hands of the likes of NSG...

Heh. I may be up for polishing off my constitution for a contest, but by Dog, I AIN'T gonna submit it to wiki tinkering at the hands of the likes of NSG...

You can set it so only mods, admins, and the member that made the page can edit the post. You don't have to worry about mods and admins.

I made it here (http://constitutions.wikidot.com/). If you want to post your constitution, type in your nations name to the left in the "Add a New Page" box, then make the page and post it there. Only you can edit the page. It wont be in the navbar until I put it there so just be patient and it will get there within a day.

*BUMP*