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I have been looking around and doing some investigating on stocks to buy. I am going to start pumping money into the stock market. Buy low and hold is the plan until things turn around. There is so much damn information out there. Lots of contradictions too. So where to go? I am looking at energy stocks however there are some blue chips that look good too. Has anyone else been left scratching their heads at what direction to go?

Alcohol sales always go up in a recession :P

Are you sure you want to invest at this stage? This recession is only just beginning, and surely the market will go further down before it goes up? Almost any investment is very risky at the moment. No, wire me the monies and I'll invest it in a high definition TV...sorry, I mean a number of new emerging business with high potential for expansion.

I'm honestly thinking about the American car companies after the summer to see if they will in fact make it to 2010.

Are you sure you want to invest at this stage? This recession is only just beginning, and surely the market will go further down before it goes up? Almost any investment is very risky at the moment. No, wire me the monies and I'll invest it in a high definition TV...sorry, I mean a number of new emerging business with high potential for expansion.

Well this is the time to actually get in. The stock market seems to be the only investment where people sell when its a bargain. If it goes down more I will just be dollar/cost averaging. So not a big deal. Plus I am not going to jump on risky stocks if I can help it. Going to go for established companies that are just being dragged down by the overall market. Otherwise these companies would be doing decent with their stock prices.

I'm honestly thinking about the American car companies after the summer to see if they will in fact make it to 2010.

With that same token you could probably look at Bank of America. However its such a big gamble it may be just too foolish. However the other approach is you could buy 500 shares for next to nothing. If it works then you will be in the money. So a little I guess would be ok. However large investments in the thousands doesn't sound to smart for these companies near collapse.

if your investing right now. you got to invest for the long term.

you may well lose your money at first and then wait for it to slowly raise back up.

Automakers are a no. Too much change and even those a head on the change (German, Japanese) could lose out by not getting on the right technology.

Anything that has to do with Co2 emissions is a bad investment at current.


Good investment if you can find one is a firm in nuclear energy.

personal electronics. computers,cellphones, TVs. these should all rebound after the recession. you may lose money initially but in 5 years they should rebound to 2005 levels.

If you got the money and you can invest in ways that Obama's policies are pushing things you can make good money. fortunes are made in recessions.

With that same token you could probably look at Bank of America. However its such a big gamble it may be just too foolish. However the other approach is you could buy 500 shares for next to nothing. If it works then you will be in the money. So a little I guess would be ok. However large investments in the thousands doesn't sound to smart for these companies near collapse.

Bank of America has a chance if you are willing to gamble. Since it hasn't already failed, eventually the government won't be able to prop it up any longer and will have to take ownership at which point the stock will go up.

There is going to be a legendary buying opportunity coming up. But not yet.

I really think you have to wait until the yield on the S&P is north of 5%.

Maybe some of the miners. Take a look at TC, I'm flirting with that. But not in chunks. TXT maybe - maybe! - a buy at these levels.

If you want a punt, front month calls on C are trading in the pennies. You'll be a zero or a hero with that.

With that same token you could probably look at Bank of America. However its such a big gamble it may be just too foolish. However the other approach is you could buy 500 shares for next to nothing. If it works then you will be in the money. So a little I guess would be ok. However large investments in the thousands doesn't sound to smart for these companies near collapse.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm not looking to make loads of cash, but if I had $1k to throw around, I'd go with GM.

Wal-Mart, its probably here to stay, lol...And after that probably Alcohol and Movie Theater companies if the Great Depression is anything to go by, lol...

There is going to be a legendary buying opportunity coming up. But not yet.

I really think you have to wait until the yield on the S&P is north of 5%.

Maybe some of the miners. Take a look at TC, I'm flirting with that. But not in chunks. TXT maybe - maybe! - a buy at these levels.

If you want a punt, front month calls on C are trading in the pennies. You'll be a zero or a hero with that.

TC looks interesting. TXT maybe in later down the road. I dont see there products in high demand anytime soon. However they could really benefit on the upside. you are right about citi. Didn't look at that before you said something. That is truly cheap.

Wal-Mart, its probably here to stay, lol...And after that probably Alcohol and Movie Theater companies if the Great Depression is anything to go by, lol...

Well there stock is priced to high for me. I am looking for real bargains. Something that is down because of the economy and will rebound on the upside. Walmart is actually doing well and their stock is priced accordingly.

TC looks interesting. TXT maybe in later down the road. I dont see there products in high demand anytime soon. However they could really benefit on the upside. you are right about citi. Didn't look at that before you said something. That is truly cheap.

Yah, big OI on C too. So you don't have to worry about paying gas to move it.

Total lottery tho'. You'll either be in Barbados sipping Mai-tais two weeks from now or wondering where the fuck the money went.

You can't go too far wrong if you go value and check out the classic measures, P/E Ratio, Quick Ratio, etc. The bad are dragging down the good, so there are some bargains out there...

Activision-Blizzard. *nods*

I have been looking around and doing some investigating on stocks to buy. I am going to start pumping money into the stock market. Buy low and hold is the plan until things turn around. There is so much damn information out there. Lots of contradictions too. So where to go? I am looking at energy stocks however there are some blue chips that look good too. Has anyone else been left scratching their heads at what direction to go?

Wal*Mart has been staying fairly high, but sales are increasing as people realize that paying more for the same product with the Target brand label is foolish, especially during a recession. I imagine that Wal*Mart stocks will only increase once (or if) the recession starts to fade.

Activision-Blizzard. *nods*

Lol, skyrocklet projections for SC2?

Lol, skyrocklet projections for SC2?
No, more "Blizzard is going to release something soon and will be more popular than Jesus"

No, more "Blizzard is going to release something soon and will be more popular than Jesus"

Ooh, they are taking the blasphemic route eh? :tongue:

The Beatles: The Game?

Ooh, they are taking the blasphemic route eh? :tongue:

The Beatles: The Game?
Eh SC2, Diablo III and all that jazz, supposedly a new MMORPG on a new IP is in the works and you can bet that the level cap in WoW is going to reach 100 given time.

Activision-Blizzard. *nods*
Surely Squaresoft, now that they've got both the FF and Tomb Raider franchises?

Eh SC2, Diablo III and all that jazz, supposedly a new MMORPG on a new IP is in the works and you can bet that the level cap in WoW is going to reach 100 given time.

Never been a huge fan of WoW personally... a bit too cartoonish... I like my RPGs serious.

I haven't heard as much about Diablo III (I've heard a bit, but only because I specifically follow it, being a big fan of II) not like SC2.

Plus SC2 is gonna cost $180 (after all three installments). That kind of cost in this kind of economy may not work so well.

Surely Squaresoft, now that they've got both the FF and Tomb Raider franchises?

TR isn't worth too much, is it?

Surely Squaresoft, now that they've got both the FF and Tomb Raider franchises?
No, since Tomb Raider is dead.
Never been a huge fan of WoW personally... a bit too cartoonish... I like my RPGs serious.
Personal taste doesn't come into it. I quite enjoy WoW as a social experience, I don't like the game itself all that much, but 10+ million subscribers are a massive, constant revenue stream and all.
I haven't heard as much about Diablo III (I've heard a bit, but only because I specifically follow it, being a big fan of II) not like SC2.
It's going to be TitanQuest with the actual Diablo title. Expect masses of lewt for Blizz out of this.
Plus SC2 is gonna cost $180 (after all three installments). That kind of cost in this kind of economy may not work so well.
Not bloody likely. PC games are like £30 new here, so eh $45 or so tops in the US, and you're not getting all 3 at once, so people are going to pay for it all. Plus licensing it out to Korean internet cafés = oh mans the money.

Not bloody likely. PC games are like £30 new here, so eh $45 or so tops in the US, and you're not getting all 3 at once, so people are going to pay for it all. Plus licensing it out to Korean internet cafés = oh mans the money.

I've seen the costs for SC2, the first installment is $60 American. New games are almost, almsot always at least $50.

And, yeah, I know everyone I plays WoW, if I were to play an MMO, I would choose WoW over a better one merely because everyone, everyone (hyperbole) plays WoW.

No, more "Blizzard is going to release something soon and will be more popular than Jesus"

that worked out really well for the Beatles

that worked out really well for the Beatles

I was gonna make a divine intervention/corporate failure joke, but I couldn't think of a good one... then I thought of The Beatles: The Game, and it was a win.

Proctor & Gamble, Best Buy

buy stock in greed and death Co, contact me i will set you up. We are an investment firm we promise 10% returns a year

...This reminds me that we have to do the "Stock Market Game" in Economics this quarter. :(

Don't buy stocks, buy land.

I have been looking around and doing some investigating on stocks to buy. I am going to start pumping money into the stock market. Buy low and hold is the plan until things turn around. There is so much damn information out there. Lots of contradictions too. So where to go? I am looking at energy stocks however there are some blue chips that look good too. Has anyone else been left scratching their heads at what direction to go?

"in volitle market, the only stable investment is Porn!"

"in volitle market, the only stable investment is Porn!"

Have we moved from a bull market to a cock market then?

...This reminds me that we have to do the "Stock Market Game" in Economics this quarter. :(

You are unhappy about this? That was a good laugh when I did it back in school.

Don't buy stocks, buy land.

I already own a bit and still buy more. The stock thing is my version of going to the "Casino".

I keep telling you Greed and Death investing will ear you 10% per year just email me about an investment.

I have been looking around and doing some investigating on stocks to buy. I am going to start pumping money into the stock market. Buy low and hold is the plan until things turn around. There is so much damn information out there. Lots of contradictions too. So where to go? I am looking at energy stocks however there are some blue chips that look good too. Has anyone else been left scratching their heads at what direction to go?


I'd say that the present recession is about to turn upwards. I think we're entering the trough stage within the next month or so...so hang back and watch bloomberg and MSNBC regularly, keep up with elitetrader forums and live market graphs on the web. When things appear like they're gonna go up since everythings bottomed out as much as it will, then buy, because the market will, I promise SKYROCKET, and you'll make a verrrrry nice chunk of change. Just a lil advice from someone who's family has been very successful trading on the market ;)

I keep telling you Greed and Death investing will ear you 10% per year just email me about an investment.

When it doesn't work out are you going to be asking for government money?

When it doesn't work out are you going to be asking for government money?

well i have a connection with several government types to insure a fast track of government bailout money. So its a no risk investment I swear.

well i have a connection with several government types to insure a fast track of government bailout money. So its a no risk investment I swear.

Well as long as you're Jewish I'm comfortable with handing you my life savings because Jews make the best money managers and are the cleverest with money. Case in point: the Rothschilds.

...who the fuck is Madoff??

OP: Perhaps you should wait until DJIA hits 1,500, then start buying some stocks after DJIA is able sustain a multi-year rally to 2,500. Don't jump in too soon though, you gotta make sure the rally to 2,500 has staying power.

Well as long as you're Jewish I'm comfortable with handing you my life savings because Jews make the best money managers and are the cleverest with money. Case in point: the Rothschilds.



I just converted. I am emailing you where to send the check.

My tip is CITIC, their stocks tanked due to a scandal last year but they'll be great beneficiaries in terms of helping disperse the enormous amounts of cash China is going to spend on infrastructure.

My tip is CITIC, their stocks tanked due to a scandal last year but they'll be great beneficiaries in terms of helping disperse the enormous amounts of cash China is going to spend on infrastructure.


Caveat for the OP: if you want to try your hand at Keynesian investing you'll have to be extremely cautious/lucky with your timing and/or know someone inside the government who controls the spigots where the "stimulus cash" flows out of, so you can know when to pull out to avoid losses (and even do a bit of shorting). The moment the stimulus funds dry up or even come down by a little bit, the contractor companies' stocks will tank, just like GE or US Steel in '37.

I just converted. I am emailing you where to send the check.

Darn, I thought I got a money manager there. I don't accept converts, only genuine hook-nosed Shylocks. Only the authentic Jew, the eternal foreigner with his strange oriental airs, not bred of the earthy native agrarian soil, is handy with money. Everyone else sucks at money.

(Disclaimer against the Southern poverty Law Center... I jest of course. I love Jews.)

Have we moved from a bull market to a cock market then?

well... the graphic to show when the market is up or down would definately be... interesting...

Banks, tech/telecom and biotech. The first group will rally massively once this recession blows over and lending resumes in earnest, the middle group will soon be in the middle of a massive upgrade cycle as companies replace their old IT equipment and buy new products to meet their needs (the technology infrastructure overhang from 2001 is pretty much gone and now companies are starting to invest in new products, new fiber-optic lines and other stuff) and biotech is going to be lifted by a combination of expanded research opportunities and the commercialization of new products developed over the past decade.

Overall, now is the time to buy if you're patient and willing to wait a little while for things to pick up.

I have been looking around and doing some investigating on stocks to buy. I am going to start pumping money into the stock market. Buy low and hold is the plan until things turn around. There is so much damn information out there. Lots of contradictions too. So where to go? I am looking at energy stocks however there are some blue chips that look good too. Has anyone else been left scratching their heads at what direction to go?
I'm betting on severe inflation. Maybe a TIPS ETF or REIT? JNJ is a stock I buy for dividends and so far they haven't cut back much. Plus, they're a real bargain now. SO is my favorite energy stock and they are also paying pretty good dividends. Telecom is sort of above the stock market woes and I know GD Satcom is doing pretty well. I don't think you can invest in just Vertex, though.

Well this is the time to actually get in.

Consider these:
Casket making companies, funeral homes and cemeteries.
Nursing homes and assisted care facilities.
Toilet paper manufacturers.

Why has noone mentioned a company in the health care industry... IDK much about it but i do no that its something noone can live without.
Also, green energy companies sound like they will be very strong in the next couple of years.
And what about commodities trading in precious metals like platinum, nickel, and gold.
Gold at least should continue to ries through the recession, then tank when we get out.

Why has noone mentioned a company in the health care industry... IDK much about it but i do no that its something noone can live without.
Also, green energy companies sound like they will be very strong in the next couple of years.
And what about commodities trading in precious metals like platinum, nickel, and gold.
Gold at least should continue to ries through the recession, then tank when we get out.
Health care isn't something to invest in when they are likely to be 1) competing against the government, or 2) put out of business by the government.