NationStates Jolt Archive


women and pedophilia

The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 15:22
Inspired by a few recent threads, I have a question for you.

Some say all women are pedophiles. I know no "all X are Y" statement about people is completely true, but how much sense is there in this particular one?

Also, I expect not many people will think odd things about women who REALLY like to hug children, whereas men who behave that way are at a high risk of being seen as potential rapists. So as long as they don't do any "bad touching", women could easily get away with it...

Thoughts?

[tongue in cheek]How many guys want to become chicks for this reason?[/tongue in cheek]
Ashmoria
07-03-2009, 15:25
who are these "some people"?

ive never read anything so silly with a reason so stupid.

do they (and you) even know what pedophilia is?
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 15:40
who are these "some people"?

It's a "joke" I have heard many times, usually by men referring to women almost drooling about how cute a baby or toddler is.

ive never read anything so silly with a reason so stupid.

Well, it is something men say... :p
I wasn't aware of a reason being included BTW.

do they (and you) even know what pedophilia is?

I can't speak for others, but I do know. I also know how to use a dictionary to check if my definition is right. A pedophile is someone who has sex with children, or wants to have it, or enjoys fantasies about it.

I know that hugging an attractive person of appropriate age and gender while thinking about sex is quite enjoyable. I expect a female pedophile could easily get away with the exact same behavior (towards someone of inappropriate age) whereas a male couldn't. Worse, a male who doesn't have sexual feelings towards children but who just likes to hug and play is quite likely to be accused of being a pedophile.
Ashmoria
07-03-2009, 15:45
It's a "joke" I have heard many times, usually by men referring to women almost drooling about how cute a baby or toddler is.



Well, it is something men say... :p
I wasn't aware of a reason being included BTW.



I can't speak for others, but I do know. I also know how to use a dictionary to check if my definition is right. A pedophile is someone who has sex with children, or wants to have it, or enjoys fantasies about it.

I know that hugging an attractive person of appropriate age and gender while thinking about sex is quite enjoyable. I expect a female pedophile could easily get away with the exact same behavior (towards someone of inappropriate age) whereas a male couldn't. Worse, a male who doesn't have sexual feelings towards children but who just likes to hug and play is quite likely to be accused of being a pedophile.
there are femal pedophiles. and yes, its easier for them to get away with it because no ones thinks "why is that woman hanging around small children?"

you probably shouldnt take "things that men say to each other" seriously. i doubt that they do.
Call to power
07-03-2009, 15:54
this explains emo kids and women liking older (read: bald) men :p

*points at male school girl weirdness*
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 15:54
you probably shouldnt take "things that men say to each other" seriously. i doubt that they do.

Isn't the same thing true for this type of questions when posted on NSG?

But seriously, the jokes people make do tell a lot about what they really think. I, in turn, would like to know what people think about all this, and to what extent they agree or disagree with stereotypes.
Call to power
07-03-2009, 15:58
the jokes people make do tell a lot about what they really think.

this puts a whole new spin on my domestic violence gags *puts your hand in the freezer*
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 16:00
this explains emo kids and women liking older (read: bald) men :p

*points at male school girl weirdness*

I get that bald men look like babies (other people would say they look like... something that causes babies... never mind), but I don't know enough about emo to understand that part. Does it explain the existence of emo kids, or do emo kids like older men?
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 16:03
*puts your hand in the freezer*

*runs off with a bag of frozen peas*
Call to power
07-03-2009, 16:08
or do emo kids like older men?

prolly but I'm more pointing out how women can like effeminate men (aka skinny guys with stupid hair)

*runs off with a bag of frozen peas*

yeah you had better make sure I have a balanced diet bitch!
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 16:17
*snip*

skinny - check
stupid hair - well it is long and feminine and all that
effeminate - check
guy - errrr... by the definitions of some people, check

liked by women - nope

So... I dunno how things are where you live, but...
Call to power
07-03-2009, 16:20
SNIP

are we still talking about having sex with children :confused:
Ashmoria
07-03-2009, 16:20
Isn't the same thing true for this type of questions when posted on NSG?

But seriously, the jokes people make do tell a lot about what they really think. I, in turn, would like to know what people think about all this, and to what extent they agree or disagree with stereotypes.
its not a stereotype. its a silly thing that men sometimes say to each other for amusement.
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 16:40
are we still talking about having sex with children :confused:

No, that was just me whining about not getting dates even though I'm apparently emo. Sorry, back to topic.
Neo Art
07-03-2009, 16:44
women are disgusting sick perverts. Do you know how many women I've known that have tried to get children, newborns even, to suck on their breasts?

Disgusting.
The Alma Mater
07-03-2009, 16:47
women are disgusting sick perverts. Do you know how many women I've known that have tried to get children, newborns even, to suck on their breasts?

I have heard rumours that many of them even "wash" the genitals of their babies. Why are the cops not stopping this ?
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 16:57
women are disgusting sick perverts. Do you know how many women I've known that have tried to get children, newborns even, to suck on their breasts?

Disgusting.

I have heard a woman claim that breastfeeding gave her erotic feelings, and that this confused her a lot.

I guess things always get confusing when they have multiple and very different purposes. *thinks about human anatomy* okay maybe not.

It is true that the hormone oxytocin is involved both in breastfeeding and in sex...
Intangelon
07-03-2009, 18:51
I have heard a woman claim that breastfeeding gave her erotic feelings, and that this confused her a lot.

I guess things always get confusing when they have multiple and very different purposes. *thinks about human anatomy* okay maybe not.

It is true that the hormone oxytocin is involved both in breastfeeding and in sex...

Well, it's the pair-bonding hormone, and as a chemical, it does it's job indiscriminately. In those whose sense of societal propriety is...underdeveloped...this can be problematic.
Extreme Ironing
07-03-2009, 18:55
Perhaps there is a serious side to this thread in that women are almost never considered suspicious when with children, whereas men are much more readily. I don't know what the statistics are for genders in paedophilia, though child protection measures in this country seem to suggest that no-one can be trusted with a child.
Call to power
07-03-2009, 19:01
Perhaps there is a serious side to this thread in that women are almost never considered suspicious when with children, whereas men are much more readily. I don't know what the statistics are for genders in paedophilia, though child protection measures in this country seem to suggest that no-one can be trusted with a child.

only a pedophile would say that! *lynches* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvsoVdvtZC4)
Dakini
07-03-2009, 19:52
I know that hugging an attractive person of appropriate age and gender while thinking about sex is quite enjoyable. I expect a female pedophile could easily get away with the exact same behavior (towards someone of inappropriate age) whereas a male couldn't. Worse, a male who doesn't have sexual feelings towards children but who just likes to hug and play is quite likely to be accused of being a pedophile.

I have hugged people I find attractive and not thought about sex.

...also... how does a female pedophile possibly hugging a child and thinking about sex related to any woman being a pedophile for hugging a child?
Saint Clair Island
07-03-2009, 19:59
Perhaps there is a serious side to this thread in that women are almost never considered suspicious when with children, whereas men are much more readily.

That's 'cause men aren't supposed to like children, because real men are masculine and manly and testosterone-ish, and automatically must disdain all of these feminine "feelings" and "emotions" in favour of blowing things up with rocket-propelled chainsaws running on beer-based fuel. If they are with children whom they are talking to or touching or something, they obviously can't be actually feeling friendly or fatherly or affectionate towards the child, because they are male. Therefore, they must be paedophiles.

Next in this topic: We discuss how men cannot be raped by women, because women do not have dicks and men always enjoy sex even if they're forced into it. Followed by a panel discussion of how abortion is necessary, to keep the population of idiots who were too stupid to use contraception under control.
Galloism
07-03-2009, 20:02
That's 'cause men aren't supposed to like children, because real men are masculine and manly and testosterone-ish, and automatically must disdain all of these feminine "feelings" and "emotions" in favour of blowing things up with rocket-propelled chainsaws running on beer-based fuel. If they are with children whom they are talking to or touching or something, they obviously can't be actually feeling friendly or fatherly or affectionate towards the child, because they are male. Therefore, they must be paedophiles.

Next in this topic: We discuss how men cannot be raped by women, because women do not have dicks and men always enjoy sex even if they're forced into it. Followed by a panel discussion of how abortion is necessary, to keep the population of idiots who were too stupid to use contraception under control.

First of all, we would never choose to burn beer for fuel. That's wasteful. However, the rocket-propelled chainsaw sounds really cool.
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 20:24
I have hugged people I find attractive and not thought about sex.

Really???? Freak!!!! :p

I don't think there is anyone who has given more than one hug to an attractive person and thought about sex every single time.

...also... how does a female pedophile possibly hugging a child and thinking about sex related to any woman being a pedophile for hugging a child?

It doesn't. In my opinion, anyway. But I'm asking for you to give your opinion, not to listen to mine.
Saint Clair Island
07-03-2009, 20:26
First of all, we would never choose to burn beer for fuel. That's wasteful. However, the rocket-propelled chainsaw sounds really cool.

You might, if you were drunk enough. (Especially if the reaction process produced something else men like, such as porn.)
Ryadn
07-03-2009, 20:57
Worse, a male who doesn't have sexual feelings towards children but who just likes to hug and play is quite likely to be accused of being a pedophile.

"Quite likely"? I don't know where you live, but on my planet, fathers hug their kids, uncles hug their nieces and nephews, grandfathers hug their grandkids, and a simple hug does not bring about an accusation of pedophilia. I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, inflammatory or both.
The Free Priesthood
07-03-2009, 22:27
I'll just make the observation that all the acceptable hugging males you mention are relatives of the child. Of course it isn't acceptable for random female strangers to hug a kid out of the blue either, however... A somewhat odd looking male who just *talks* to kids (just like many women would), or a random male passer-by who tries to help/comfort a kid with a skinned knee, does have to fear the "OMG PEDO!" response from other adults. Friends of parents, teachers, and ministers all are examples of people that would be judged differently based on their gender.

I dunno how justified that tendency to accuse males is, perhaps it is. FWIW, I don't remember any women saying or doing any inappropriate things to me when I was a kid, but I do remember men... All of them strangers, too, which IIRC doesn't match statistics. (Don't worry, nothing traumatizing. One guy offered mutual masturbation, another touched my rear (and got punched by me in response))

Anyway, this was about women, not men.
Indecline
07-03-2009, 22:58
silly.
The Rich Port
07-03-2009, 23:16
People have a misunderstanding of the civil rights movements for minorities and for gender and sexual orientation. Apparently, they seem to think this: "women, gays, blacks, etc., fought for these rights. Therefore, they are better than the people who restricted them." This eventually leads to a compoundingly misunderstood definition of "equality". People don't seem to realize that equality means "the same as others", not "better than the oppressors." Women are as capable as men to have sexual feelings for children, not more so, not less so. Therefore, it's unfair to male sex offenders that women can get off so easily whenever they are caught having sex with minors.

I don't really get why so many of those teachers got off so easy...
Blouman Empire
08-03-2009, 00:39
...also... how does a female pedophile possibly hugging a child and thinking about sex related to any woman being a pedophile for hugging a child?

I don't think that was what he was trying to say. He was saying that while a woman who may be a pedophile could hug a child and get away with it, where as a male who isn't a pedophile could simple hug a child and some people could think he is a pedophile if they see him doing it continuously.