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So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan, but I don't think I could date someone who didn't have respect for what I believe in or was against it and tried to talk me out of it. Although, I guess the image of me dating a Christian woman and she'd celebrate Easter while I celebrate Beltaine would be a funny image.

What about you guys?

I have no religion. Long story.

I have no religion. Long story.

Well, could you date someone who was religious?

Well, could you date someone who was religious?

As long as they didn't try to drag me into a church or try to fix me or anything like that, it wouldn't really bother me.

EDIT: I also hate all religious holidays, and would resent any effort to attempt to get me to celebrate them.

I am open to it but I don't know if the fam is. I could probably get away with jewish people but not the other religions. In fact most of it is racial not religious.

Well, could you date someone who was religious?

So long as they don't try to convert me, or their religion doesn't become a major obstacle to continued dating.

I dated, and eventually married, a Jewish girl and I was at the time Christian. I'm now an atheist so maybe even back then Christianity had no real hold on me.

Neither of us were terribly religious and that's why I suppose it worked. I could be wrong but I doubt two religious people of different faiths, or a religious individual and a non-religious one, would be likely to make a success of it.

I think my only requirement is a breathing female with some brains. Religion doesn't matter to me.

I think my only requirement is a breathing female with some brains. Religion doesn't matter to me.

Would Miss South Carolina suffice? Oh, you said some brains, my apologies.

Had to be done. :p

I've dated people who were Jewish, Christian and Catholic--I am none of these. It was not a problem in any relationship except one, because I was dating a Catholic girl who was in denial about being a lesbian (while in a relationship with a girl).

Would Miss South Carolina suffice? Oh, you said some brains, my apologies.

Had to be done. :p

As the president of an international group dedicated to bringing maps to poor children everywhere, I'm upset that so many mocked the young lady's real concern about the map gap. It is this snarkiness that has made our group, Maps Without Borders, so unsuccessful in getting grant money.

I've dated people who were Jewish, Christian and Catholic--I am none of these. It was not a problem in any relationship except one, because I was dating a Catholic girl who was in denial about being a lesbian (while in a relationship with a girl).

isn't that doublethink?

I have yet to date anyone whose religious beliefs are particularly similar to my own. So long as they don't believe anything patently crazy or actively harmful to others, it really isn't an issue.

Yes, unless they were of a really backwards religion or talked their arse off about their views.

I could be wrong but I doubt two religious people of different faiths, or a religious individual and a non-religious one, would be likely to make a success of it.

Well, I think that rather depends on how one defines both "religious" and "success."

wow look at all the cool people who could actually date somebody *goes off to cry self to sleep*.

Would Miss South Carolina suffice? Oh, you said some brains, my apologies.

Had to be done. :p

But are her teeth purdy?

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan, but I don't think I could date someone who didn't have respect for what I believe in or was against it and tried to talk me out of it. Although, I guess the image of me dating a Christian woman and she'd celebrate Easter while I celebrate Beltaine would be a funny image.

What about you guys?
This always seems like a very, very specifically US American thing to me.
Not sure about, say, rural Bavaria, but pretty much in the entire rest of Germany nobody could possibly care less. It's just a complete non-topic. The only time a partner's religion comes up is when it's time to choose which church to get married in (if you get married in a church at all).

But are her teeth purdy?

is that a veiled insult?

This always seems like a very, very specifically US American thing to me.
Not sure about, say, rural Bavaria, but pretty much in the entire rest of Germany nobody could possibly care less. It's just a complete non-topic. The only time a partner's religion comes up is when it's time to choose which church to get married in (if you get married in a church at all).

Is there less religious diversity? Or is religion in general just a less important part of life?

I could probably date a non-mainstream religion...But any of the Big Three would eventually have a falling out with me, they would eventually hear of my disdain for their chosen religion...

I could probably date a non-mainstream religion...But any of the Big Three would eventually have a falling out with me, they would eventually hear of my disdain for their chosen religion...

You mean Fordism, GMism, and Chryslerology?

is that a veiled insult?

Could be a movie reference.

Then again do you have purdy teeth?

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion?...What about you guys?

I'm a gay atheist living in the second(ish) American awakening needless to say I think I have to date guys who believes in "supernatural forces"(note I'm being kind here). I only require they accept Darwinian evolution as a valid theroy...*sigh* But even that is hard.

But are her teeth purdy?

Only if theyre not from Vancleve, lol :rolleyes:





*nobody else on here gets it*

This always seems like a very, very specifically US American thing to me.
Not sure about, say, rural Bavaria, but pretty much in the entire rest of Germany nobody could possibly care less. It's just a complete non-topic. The only time a partner's religion comes up is when it's time to choose which church to get married in (if you get married in a church at all).

Well the US was settled by Puritans around 1602.

Well the US was settled by Puritans around 1602.
... what the hell does this matter.
This always seems like a very, very specifically US American thing to me.
Aye.

I'm a gay atheist living in the second(ish) American awakening needless to say I think I have to date guys who believes in "supernatural forces"(note I'm being kind here). I only require they accept Darwinian evolution as a valid theroy...*sigh* But even that is hard.

Wasn't that in the early 19th century? How did you get access to this computer, and why have you come to our present?

Wasn't that in the early 19th century? How did you get access to this computer, and why have you come to our present?

Simple, I'm a Time Colonist and I just got confused. This is the tenth American awakening, right?

You mean Fordism, GMism, and Chryslerology?

Rofflmfao, yes exactly, More of a Volkswagen man myself, :p

Is there less religious diversity? Or is religion in general just a less important part of life?
Both. So the latter makes the former inconsequential anyway.

We have traditionally mainly two different churches, both Christian: Catholic and Protestant. Protestant isn't split up in a thousand different denominations (is that the right word?), it's just "Protestant", period.

Religion is MUCH less important here, like much of Europe we're way more secular than the US. The vast majority of people (well, at least in former Western Germany) are still nominally Christian, i.e. officially church members (i.e. paying taxes because yeah, we actually have to pay church taxes, don't make me try and defend this in the view of separation of church and state because I can't). Quite a few have left the church because of exactly those taxes but would still consider themselves Christians.
But a really small number of people are religious to the extent that Americans are. Like, there's not that many people anymore who'll go to church every Sunday. Most people will go just once in a while and for Christmas, maybe Easter, too.

The only reason I even knew what religion my friends were as a kid is because we have religious education in the schools in my home state, with separate classes for Catholics and Protestants. So for that one period per week the kids in the class would be split up into two different classrooms. (Kids of other religions either had the period off, those lucky bastards, or, in the higher grades, had to take Ethics instead, which every Catholic or Protestant kid could also take instead of religious education if they wanted. Ethics was easier so many did. :p)

Simple, I'm a Time Colonist and I just got cofused. This is the tenth American awakening, right?
You would know better than me. And also, tell me, time wanderer, is it true the future will be run by robots? If it is, what must I do to ingratiate myself with our mechanical overlords?

... what the hell does this matter.
Pretty much everything.

*snip*
Okay, that all makes sense. Religion in modern Europe always confuses me, because in practice it's so secular and yet there's still a state church in England, church taxes in Germany, etc.

Okay, that all makes sense. Religion in modern Europe always confuses me, because in practice it's so secular and yet there's still a state church in England, church taxes in Germany, etc.

I know! It confuses me too - we have the church tax and Catholic & Protestant education in public schools, I have no idea how they're passing that off as separation of church and state (I should probably educate myself on that, shuddup).
Yet of course de facto separation of church and state is much more alive here than in the US, where politicians regularly invoke God in their speeches (have to, even, in order not to seem "Godless" and unpatriotic and whatnot) and politics in general are very much influenced by religious interests and there's always some Southern courthouse trying to put up the Ten Commandments in the entry hall...

Southern courthouse trying to put up the Ten Commandments in the entry hall...

I hate those guys so much, to the point that its effected my regard for Christianity in general...

they make us look bad, and worse, backward even...:mad:

I've never dated a Jewish girl, but I'm not very religious. However, this strikes me as fairly normal. Those shiksas, they hold a voodoo power over me. :(

I've never dated a Jewish girl, but I'm not very religious. However, this strikes me as fairly normal. Those shiksas, they hold a voodoo power over me. :(

We're evil like that. :wink:

I've never dated a Jewish girl, but I'm not very religious. However, this strikes me as fairly normal. Those shiksas, they hold a voodoo power over me. :(

Ive never heard the term before this post...but I looked it up on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiksa

The word shiksa is derived from the Hebrew term sheketz, which means "abomination", "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.


Interesting, it also turns me on lol :p

The word shiksa is derived from the Hebrew term sheketz, which means "abomination", "impure," or "object of loathing", depending on the translator.


Yup, that sounds pretty much like how my ex's mother used it when discussing me.

Huh, weird....makes sense, though. I've never heard it really used in a pejorative sense. I always figured it was about as offensive as using "goy" to refer to gentiles. *shrug*

This ruins my plan to use, "What's up sexy shiksa," as my new sweet pickup line! :(

Huh, weird....makes sense, though. I've never heard it really used in a pejorative sense. I always figured it was about as offensive as using "goy" to refer to gentiles. *shrug*

This ruins my plan to use, "What's up sexy shiksa," as my new sweet pickup line! :(

Hehe, I think you can probably still get away with it provided you're trying to pick up a girl who already knows that you don't actually think she's an abomination. :p

No , I haven't.. but not by way of no.. cause they diff .. but simply cause i haven't been around many available men that wasn't already near to or familiar with the faith I have. I'm not against it. I actually think it would make a good pair.

If the girl didn't have any problems with me being an athiest, then yes.

I've dated Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, and atheists. I usually have not realized it until well into the relationship -- if it ever comes up at all. I'd say I am unsure of the religious beliefs of the majority of the guys I've dated in my life.

Until very recently, I had no religious litmus test for dates at all.

However, due to the recent rise of pain-in-the-ass religiosity, I have had to make a new rule that I will not date a guy who is very religious. Which religion does not matter. If he makes it an issue, brings it up, etc, then I need to break up with him because in the past 10 years, I've dated a few guys who self-identified as very religious and they always ended up (very soon in the relationship) having some problem that was somehow all my fault because I didn't do whatever it was their religion said a woman should be doing. I don't have time for that shit.

I could easily date: Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jew, your Mom, etc.

I could easily date: Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jew, your Mom, etc.
Orly? That's not what she said.

I could date anyone of any religous stripe provided they didnt try and convert me.

Coincidentally, this was on TV just last night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0thRUS1wUw).

I'm an atheist who once pursued a relationship with a Catholic, but things fell apart when she found out I was atheist.

isn't that doublethink?

Never underestimate the power of denial.

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan?

My fiancee is Catholic and I'm atheist. No major problems so far.

As long as they're not extremist and accept me for who I am, I'd date someone with a different religion (or none at all).

Personally I would only date other Christians like myself

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan, but I don't think I could date someone who didn't have respect for what I believe in or was against it and tried to talk me out of it. Although, I guess the image of me dating a Christian woman and she'd celebrate Easter while I celebrate Beltaine would be a funny image.

What about you guys?

I'm gonna say no. Though, perhaps ironically, my wife was, when we were dating, a pagan.

She is now a Christian, as I have been throughout... though I will admit that it was a strain on my end of our relationship before she became a Christian.

It would be difficult for me to date someone with exactly the same religion as myself, since I might very well be the only one.

People who are supposed to have a "similar" religion might be bad choices for me, if they're of the kind that think paganism means standing in circles and holding hands. It's fun every once in a while, but do it too often and it will make my skin crawl. Another step down in similarity, Unitarian Universalists in general (not just the pagans)... quite of those are very good dating material. Moving on to totally different religion, I think I would have no real trouble with dating anyone who isn't a bigot. But one could argue UU is the opposite of bigotry, so I couldn't date someone with a religion opposite to mine.

I'm Christian, my wife's Buddhist. So far, no real issues, excepting where to spend holidays sometimes; but then again, all married couples have that issue. ;)

I'm Atheist, so is my husband. But, it wasn't always like this. He was a fence sitter for a while, and tried to be a good Jewish boy and make mommy happy. Then I came alone and upset that apple cart. (Just kidding on the last bit).

I have dated a Muslim, a Jew and an Orthodox Christian (who had the bloody audacity to take out his bible in order to try and convince me I was wrong about the Romans, and he was right in that it was the Romans not the Jews who killed Christ...)

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan,
What about you guys?


:mad:

Anyway, as long as she wasn't KKKristian or Zionist I'm fine with whatever she is.

The only reason I even knew what religion my friends were as a kid is because we have religious education in the schools in my home state, with separate classes for Catholics and Protestants. So for that one period per week the kids in the class would be split up into two different classrooms. (Kids of other religions either had the period off, those lucky bastards, or, in the higher grades, had to take Ethics instead, which every Catholic or Protestant kid could also take instead of religious education if they wanted. Ethics was easier so many did. :p)

We had that in Belgian schools too, though you could take Ethics pretty much throughout school and the vaste majority did, even if their families were religious (because it was easier). Being a Catholic country, the protestant class was tiny however, just 4 of us, and was probably the easiest going (you could also get Islamic and Jewish lessons, although these were usually even smaller than the Protestant classes).

But back on topic - I wouldn't really care, as long as they didn't try and convert me.

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan, but I don't think I could date someone who didn't have respect for what I believe in or was against it and tried to talk me out of it. Although, I guess the image of me dating a Christian woman and she'd celebrate Easter while I celebrate Beltaine would be a funny image.

What about you guys?

I could date anyone of any religion, as long as there were other important things in their life (and maybe I'd be one of them).

I'm Atheist, so is my husband. But, it wasn't always like this. He was a fence sitter for a while, and tried to be a good Jewish boy and make mommy happy. Then I came alone and upset that apple cart. (Just kidding on the last bit).

I have dated a Muslim, a Jew and an Orthodox Christian (who had the bloody audacity to take out his bible in order to try and convince me I was wrong about the Romans, and he was right in that it was the Romans not the Jews who killed Christ...)

But, it was the Jews...

Wait a minute. This is a point of contest?

I'm Christian, my wife's Buddhist. So far, no real issues, excepting where to spend holidays sometimes; but then again, all married couples have that issue. ;)

Heh. That was the exact opposite of my last serious relationship. One unfortunate contributing factor to the break up was her mother's telling me that I'd have to get properly baptized... (I was "dedicated" (http://archive.uua.org/pamphlet/3559.html) as a UU...)

Funny thing was that the potential MIL had married a Buddhist.... (>.<)

I am theoretically jewish, my girlfriend is nominally catholic...hasn't really been an issue.

But, it was the Jews...

Wait a minute. This is a point of contest?

Yes, because he didn't like it when I was right, nor when I contradicted him. It took up 2 hours of my cellphone time because my ex-boyfriend was an obstinate pig-headed twat of a chauvinist who hated to admit when I was right,

Yes, because he didn't like it when I was right, nor when I contradicted him. It took up 2 hours of my cellphone time because my ex-boyfriend was an obstinate pig-headed twat of a chauvinist who hated to admit when I was right,

That totally made me look for extra white text when I saw the comma at the end.

Also, I believe it says quite clearly something on the order of "handed Jesus over to the Jews to be executed" somewhere in there. It's been a long time since I read the Bible, but I think it's in there in plain English just like that.

I have dated several Jewish girls, as well as a Buddhist girl when I was working on a long-term project in Korea. Other than that, mostly Catholics and other Christians. I once dated a girl who turned out to be a pagan (I didn't know that beforehand)--an experience I will not repeat.

So:
Christian--OK
Jewish--OK
Buddhist--OK
pagan--no way
Moslem--no f***ing way
agnostic--never
atheist--never
other--depends

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan, but I don't think I could date someone who didn't have respect for what I believe in or was against it and tried to talk me out of it. Although, I guess the image of me dating a Christian woman and she'd celebrate Easter while I celebrate Beltaine would be a funny image.

What about you guys?

as long as she doesn't try to 'convert' me to her religion, (and I won't try to convert her to mine.) I see nothing wrong with it.

Don't give a crap. If the relationship doesn't work out there are probably bigger issues than what religion the participants subscribe to, anyway.

I'm not religious. If someone was moderately religious, no problem. Someone who believed in literal interpretation of holy book x etc, definitely not. But then again, they wouldn't be wanting to go out with me anyway, so meh.

Well I don't 'date' that often but as for hooked up with:

I've hooked up with and have had no problems with:

Protestants
Catholics
Athiests

Odd, I've never so much as kissed a Jewish girl, if I recall correctly.

I was once rather close with a (European, as in non-arab) Muslim girl and although she and her family were much more advanced and progressive than Arab-muslims, the religion was 100% a problem and prevented anything from happening that may have happend otherwise.

I'm not too religious and I suppose I couldn't date someone who was super religious, simply because I believe we would clash too much in outlook. As for non-religious or normal-religious, I don't care. There are way more important things that I care about.

such as breast-size j/k ;)

Coincidentally, this was on TV just last night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0thRUS1wUw).

I haven't laughed so hard for ages.

I have dated a Muslim, a Jew and an Orthodox Christian (who had the bloody audacity to take out his bible in order to try and convince me I was wrong about the Romans, and he was right in that it was the Romans not the Jews who killed Christ...)

Did you give him reading comprehension lessons?

Yes, because he didn't like it when I was right, nor when I contradicted him. It took up 2 hours of my cellphone time because my ex-boyfriend was an obstinate pig-headed twat of a chauvinist who hated to admit when I was right,

But you women are always wrong, learn to respect men and what we say is always right. :p

And as for the OP question. I have dated people of different faiths although one atheist was a bit of a bitch. She tried telling me how bad I was for believing in god and how my faith was full of shit and that I shouldn't believe in god, she went so far as to teach me why I should have the same beliefs as well. It was a short relationship, I don't really care that people ave different beliefs to me but don't try and change my religious beliefs, I will do that myself thank you very much.

I would have much more difficulty dating someone who has very big differences in political beliefs.

Heh. That was the exact opposite of my last serious relationship. One unfortunate contributing factor to the break up was her mother's telling me that I'd have to get properly baptized... (I was "dedicated" (http://archive.uua.org/pamphlet/3559.html) as a UU...)

Funny thing was that the potential MIL had married a Buddhist.... (>.<)
I've been lucky in that, like most Japanese Buddhists, my wife isn't too particularly serious about it, and neither is her family. So mainly I just bow my head before the family alter during Oshougatsu and Obon and offer a silent prayer to God. I'm sure He doesn't mind, my wife doesn't mind, can't speak about my wife's grandfather's spirit though. He apparently hated Americans so I'm not too sure he would have liked the idea of one praying at his alter. :p

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

As for me, I could date someone who wasn't a Pagan, but I don't think I could date someone who didn't have respect for what I believe in or was against it and tried to talk me out of it. Although, I guess the image of me dating a Christian woman and she'd celebrate Easter while I celebrate Beltaine would be a funny image.

What about you guys?

It depends upon how much money she has. :)

But, it was the Jews...

Wait a minute. This is a point of contest?

Several Jews put pressure on the Romans to execute him because he could start a revolution that would end in genocide. Though, in point of fact, the Bible mentions more Jews protesting the execution than supporting it.

Well my dad is Christian, and he has been dating a Pagan woman.

I myself am also Christian, brought up as a Catholic, and this girl I like is an atheist but that doesn't mean I don't want to go out with her.

Yes, because he didn't like it when I was right, nor when I contradicted him. It took up 2 hours of my cellphone time because my ex-boyfriend was an obstinate pig-headed twat of a chauvinist who hated to admit when I was right,

This is why relationships often fail to make sense to me: many persons claim their previous lovers are extremely unpleasent humans--why is there a relationship, then? Even more puzzling are the marriages that foment same complaints.

I'm a Christian married to an atheist. Yeah, I think I could do it. =)

Several Jews put pressure on the Romans to execute him because he could start a revolution that would end in genocide. Though, in point of fact, the Bible mentions more Jews protesting the execution than supporting it.

IIRC, if I recall correctly, the Bible says that Pilate brought Jesus out before the Jews and tried to get them to have pity on him (after being whipped, crown of thorns, etc). Then, he offered to release Jesus according to a certain holiday they had, but the Jews opted to have Barrabas, a murderer, released instead. Then, Pilate washed his hands of the whole thing and delivered him up for execution.

I would not date a non-Jewish girl, simply because I intend to marry Jewish, and I plan to avoid the issue of falling in love with a non-Jew.

The simple matter is, I want my kids to be Jewish. For that, they need a Jewish mother. If I was female, I might reconsider (I was born to an interfaith marriage, and my parents are as happy together as can be), but I have a Y chromosome.

I won't put up with them trying to convert me, but I have dated women from different religious spectrums than my own and things worked just fine as long as we respected each other's rights and beleifs. I've been with an atheist, pagan, psuedo conservative christian, and a jew (no I didn't give up bacon). Between us this never caused a problem, the Jewish woman's parents were a big problem though.

I would not date a non-Jewish girl, simply because I intend to marry Jewish, and I plan to avoid the issue of falling in love with a non-Jew.

The simple matter is, I want my kids to be Jewish. For that, they need a Jewish mother. If I was female, I might reconsider (I was born to an interfaith marriage, and my parents are as happy together as can be), but I have a Y chromosome.
. . . or she could convert to Judaism? That's the old way of thinking. You don't need a 'Jewish mother' to be Jewish anymore, really. I know people who have a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother and are Jewish and I also know people who's mother wasn't Jewish but then converted to Judaism and they are Jewish.

Limiting yourself based on an anachronistic tradition doesn't seem like the most rational thing to do to me. We live in the age of individual choice, after all. Choice of religion is included in that.

. . . or she could convert to Judaism? That's the old way of thinking. You don't need a 'Jewish mother' to be Jewish anymore, really. I know people who have a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother and are Jewish and I also know people who's mother wasn't Jewish but then converted to Judaism and they are Jewish.

Limiting yourself based on an anachronistic tradition doesn't seem like the most rational thing to do to me. We live in the age of individual choice, after all. Choice of religion is included in that.

It isn't an anachronistic tradition to me.

. . . or she could convert to Judaism? That's the old way of thinking. You don't need a 'Jewish mother' to be Jewish anymore, really. I know people who have a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother and are Jewish and I also know people who's mother wasn't Jewish but then converted to Judaism and they are Jewish.

Limiting yourself based on an anachronistic tradition doesn't seem like the most rational thing to do to me. We live in the age of individual choice, after all. Choice of religion is included in that.

As a Catholic, I was taught in grade school that mixed marriages weren't a good thing. I've loosened up on that issue over time, but I still wouldn't date anyone whose beliefs would cause a conflict with me over how to raise the kids (they'd have to be raised in the Church).

So I don't see a problem with M's approach. When it comes to issues of faith and family, you have to act in accordance with your own beliefs and not according to what someone else thinks is modern, rational or individualistic.

This is why relationships often fail to make sense to me: many persons claim their previous lovers are extremely unpleasent humans--why is there a relationship, then? Even more puzzling are the marriages that foment same complaints.
Usually, the person is hot.

However, once you get used to the hot sex -- or it turns out the delivered product is not as hot as the package it came in -- all their outside-the-bedroom faults start to grate on one's nerves.

This is how you end up talking about how repulsive the people you used to fuck are. It all comes from finally seeing through the hot-haze.

Nope wouldn't throw me off. Then again I am not to religious...

IIRC, if I recall correctly, the Bible says that Pilate brought Jesus out before the Jews and tried to get them to have pity on him (after being whipped, crown of thorns, etc). Then, he offered to release Jesus according to a certain holiday they had, but the Jews opted to have Barrabas, a murderer, released instead. Then, Pilate washed his hands of the whole thing and delivered him up for execution.

When he brought Jesus before "the Jews" he brought him before a Jewish consul. The Bible later mentions crowds of Jews openly protesting the crucifixion.

Usually, the person is hot.

However, once you get used to the hot sex -- or it turns out the delivered product is not as hot as the package it came in -- all their outside-the-bedroom faults start to grate on one's nerves.

This is how you end up talking about how repulsive the people you used to fuck are. It all comes from finally seeing through the hot-haze.

How humorous, all these poets speaking about "love",when animal instincts can force us to marry persons we rant about to our friends. I was stupid enough to think anyone over 17 is not bothered by a "hot-haze".

When he brought Jesus before "the Jews" he brought him before a Jewish consul. The Bible later mentions crowds of Jews openly protesting the crucifixion.

Where is the crowd of protesters mentioned? I don't remember that.

It isn't an anachronistic tradition to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

Though you might be surprised by the number of persons willing to convert for marriage purposes.

Exactly. You don't magically become more mature and capable of understanding things.

I'd fool around with someone of another religion.

I'm open to dating someone of another religion but considering my next point - what's the point?

I wouldn't marry someone of another religion.

Where is the crowd of protesters mentioned? I don't remember that.

Luke, XXIII, 27.

Luke, XXIII, 27.

I'll be damned.

However, just a few verses up (13-24) it says he called the people together and attempted to sway the crowd into having Jesus released.

It isn't an anachronistic tradition to me.

Isn't it? I was under the impression that converts to Judaism are supposed to be just as much "real" Jews as people born Jewish, unless the point is not religion but race - and I don't see racism as a particularly reasonable, forward-thinking attitude regardless of whom it comes from. I can totally understand and respect a wish to raise one's children within one's own faith, but there's no doubt a converted mother could do that, which leaves very little other explanation than a desire to make sure one's children are ethnically "pure." I have a hard time comprehending that way of thought from anyone, but it's especially baffling when the people seeking racial purity have such glaringly obvious reasons to oppose that sort of ideology.

I'll be damned.

However, just a few verses up (13-24) it says he called the people together and attempted to sway the crowd into having Jesus released.

The "they" in 18 likely refers to the priests, with whom Jesus was most unpopular. In that situation, "the people" did not decide things; their opinion is only surely mentioned once, which is to free Jesus. You have to realize that books often failed to make things like that clear back then.

Isn't it? I was under the impression that converts to Judaism are supposed to be just as much "real" Jews as people born Jewish,

This is totally accurate, and I am sure Mirkana feels that way.

The "they" in 18 likely refers to the priests, with whom Jesus was most unpopular. In that situation, "the people" did not decide things; their opinion is only surely mentioned once, which is to free Jesus. You have to realize that books often failed to make things like that clear back then.

Well, verse 13 specifically says "the chief priests, and the rulers, and the people" were brought together. It seems to be talking about three different groups.

In addition, it seems to indicate in those verses a mob mentality among the people there, which would probably not be likely if it was half a dozen or a dozen people that he had brought.

EDIT: besides that, in 18, it refers to "their whole multitude"

Sure, I could date a religious woman without too much trouble. In fact, as long as it was done respectfully and intelligently, I wouldn't even object to discussion/debate about our differing viewpoints. In fact, I would love it, because I find that sort of thing enjoyable. It might feel a little weird at times if the person was the sort of person who is currently in the mainstream style of Christianity in the US, what with her belief that I'm going to burn in Hell for all eternity, but really, I doubt a person of that sort of religion would be likely to want to date me anyway, so I doubt it would come up.

I tried it... and I'm not likely to try it again.
I didn't appreciated being preached to, and not being able to have normal conversations without religion popping into it all the time... It's just too awkward and not really worth the effort.

The "they" in 18 likely refers to the priests, with whom Jesus was most unpopular. In that situation, "the people" did not decide things; their opinion is only surely mentioned once, which is to free Jesus. You have to realize that books often failed to make things like that clear back then.

Yes it was primarily the Jewish priests who wanted Jesus to be killed, and in order to do that they whipped the populace in a frenzy to help pressure Pilate to turn Jesus over to the Jews to be killed. Pilate needed to keep the Pax Romana and with the priests getting people riled up and telling Pilate that they will riot if he was not to kill Jesus. So yes it was primarily the priests but they would not have been able to get their objective if the people were not on their side.

It would all depend on the person. I, a Satanist, am married to Carrick Anam, A Christian, and we have no religious issues that our mutual respect doesn't cover.

Well, I'm a shamanistic New Ager Hindu.

My girlfriend is a Pagan New Ager.

I honestly have no problem with interreligious dating, as long as my significant other doesn't try to push their religion on me.

This is totally accurate, and I am sure Mirkana feels that way.

It depends on which Jews you talk to, my grandmother would disagree IIRC.

Sure, I could date a religious woman without too much trouble. In fact, as long as it was done respectfully and intelligently, I wouldn't even object to discussion/debate about our differing viewpoints. In fact, I would love it, because I find that sort of thing enjoyable. It might feel a little weird at times if the person was the sort of person who is currently in the mainstream style of Christianity in the US, what with her belief that I'm going to burn in Hell for all eternity, but really, I doubt a person of that sort of religion would be likely to want to date me anyway, so I doubt it would come up.

Some of my most interesting religious conversations have been with my husband (an atheist). While it often may not seem like it, it is possible to have civil discussion about religion even when people don't agree.

I dunno. We'll see how it comes along.

I was pretty into an atheist my last go 'round, and we had a lot of fun arguments about evolution, so as long as we can have some kind of intelligent and calm conversation about it, I'd probably be fine.

Some of my most interesting religious conversations have been with my husband (an atheist). While it often may not seem like it, it is possible to have civil discussion about religion even when people don't agree.

Blasphemy! When discussing religion, you are to spew hate upon every person who is stupid enough to disagree with you! Neither rational discourse nor civil discussion have any room anywhere.

It's dreadful. I mean, I avoid discussing things with people who disagree with me because they might bring up a point that I hadn't thought of before and may even show me (the horror!) that I am wrong. Then I might actually learn something. Horrible, I know.

If she was willing to convert, then that changes everything. However, I'm not going to bank on her doing that, particularly since I would NEVER pressure ANYONE into doing so - pushing my beliefs on others is anathema to me.

If she was willing to convert, then that changes everything. However, I'm not going to bank on her doing that, particularly since I would NEVER pressure ANYONE into doing so - pushing my beliefs on others is anathema to me.

Fair 'nuff. It's worth noting that that's one of those things it's totally okay just to ask before a relationship gets serious - and "I'd only date girls who are cool with potentially making Jewish babies someday" is less open to nasty interpretations than "I'd only date Jewish girls." :p

So, could you ever date someone of a different religion? If you were a Christian, could you date a Muslim, or a Buddhist? If you were Jewish, could you date a Christian or a Pagan? etc. Well, could you?!

I could date a person who was religious, but I could not have a religious person for a "life-partner" or whatever term you want to use for that. I simply don't think there's any way for me to build a life with somebody if we have such a fundamental disagreement as that.

My wife wasn't a member of my Church when we started dating. It never caused us any problems, and she later chose to join the Church anyway. That was never a condition of our dating, of course, but I live that it worked out that way.

In my previous marriage it was sort of the opposite, and my religion is one of the few good things I got out of that marriage.