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[NWS sexual content] Am I subconsciously racist?

Kahless Khan
06-03-2009, 20:13
I believe that I am quite open about races, having no prejudices against any one race. I am also post pubescent, exhibiting a natural sexual attraction toward other people, which sex education assured me is healthy.

Today, I had a revelation about my preferences, which has never occurred to me: I am not sexually attracted to black women.


I was watching an episode of Star Trek TOS, where Lt. Uhura was being pleasant as ever. The actor (still) is stunning, as are many other black people, each of whom I would not hesitate to use as an example of the beauty of humans. I just cannot find any of them "sexually" enticing.

Is there anything wrong with this? Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people? There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.

edit: I just noticed I spelled subconscious in the title wrong.
Megaloria
06-03-2009, 20:17
It's no big deal. What might be a bigger deal would be if someone you found emotionally, mentally, socially attractive became incompatible with you because of their skin tone.
Neesika
06-03-2009, 20:17
No idea what your issue is. I didn't grow up around black women either, but I've seen any number walking down the street that made me want to bite their apple bottoms.
Hydesland
06-03-2009, 20:17
I am not sexually attracted to black women.


You don't know this, you may one day see a black woman you do find sexually attractive.
VirginiaCooper
06-03-2009, 20:21
Everyone is subconsciously racist.
Neesika
06-03-2009, 20:22
Everyone is subconsciously racist.
Shut up, whitey.
Kahless Khan
06-03-2009, 20:22
You don't know this, you may one day see a black woman you do find sexually attractive.

That's what I thought, but then again I've seen so many American movies with beautiful black people.
Dinaverg
06-03-2009, 20:22
*shrug* It's just a sexual preference. Struth, I don't see the appeal either. :p
Hydesland
06-03-2009, 20:23
That's what I thought, but then again I've seen so many American movies with beautiful black people.

Well, if you're genuinely not attracted to black people, there's nothing wrong with that. You can't choose who you're attracted to, so there was no more moral alternative you could have chosen.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 20:23
is this a picture thread?

everyone has their kinks I guess maybe your just repressed and refuse to have a kinky jungle slave
Galloism
06-03-2009, 20:24
is this a picture thread?

everyone has their kinks I guess maybe your just repressed and refuse to have a kinky jungle slave

I want a kinky jungle slave. She's got to be white or hispanic, though. I'm just not attracted to black women.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 20:26
I want a kinky jungle slave.

go to Africa with money...to add to the fun you could make her do my laundry
Hydesland
06-03-2009, 20:28
is this a picture thread?


http://myplay.com/files/imagecache/photo_345_square/files/artist_images/beyonce.jpg
Galloism
06-03-2009, 20:28
go to Africa with money...to add to the fun you could make her do my laundry

I edited to make my statement more... clear.

It's not so much the race, but having the woman I like wearing nothing but a few leaves strung together with some twine, climbing trees, totally enslaved, but slightly out of control.

It would be like my first marriage all over again.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 20:40
SNIP

you' know beyonce is pretty much all I can think of :(

It's not so much the race, but having the woman I like wearing nothing but a few leaves strung together with some twine, climbing trees, totally enslaved, but slightly out of control.

nu-uh your totally can't have a white girl in such a scene Asians pushing it
The Atlantian islands
06-03-2009, 20:41
Neither you nor George Bush cares for or about Black people.
Galloism
06-03-2009, 20:45
nu-uh your totally can't have a white girl in such a scene Asians pushing it

Asian works for me.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 20:50
Neither you nor George Bush cares for or about Black people.

P Diddy hates OP :(

Asian works for me.

job done then time to find you a Chinese bride (has to be Chinese because it would be like dating a Polish bird in terms of house chores)
VirginiaCooper
06-03-2009, 20:51
Shut up, whitey.

That's conscious racism. Be a little more subtle if you want to be considered subconscious.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 20:53
That's conscious racism. Be a little more subtle if you want to be considered subconscious.

shut up, Boss? :tongue:
VirginiaCooper
06-03-2009, 20:55
shut up, Boss? :tongue:

I view you with inherent distrust, but its not because you're black, its because you seem more hostile.
Kahless Khan
06-03-2009, 20:57
Haha that's just fine. I asked the NSG psychiatrist because this a question I wouldn't want to be seen asking in public.

Had the answer been "yes there is something wrong with you," then the discussion would've turned out more interesting.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
06-03-2009, 21:00
I kind of always felt bad that I don't really like Asian girls...until I saw this Asian lady pool champ who makes me turgid.

But I notice that she has a stick and balls, so it might just mean I'm gay.
Hydesland
06-03-2009, 21:00
I view you with inherent distrust, but its not because you're black, its because you seem more hostile.

lol wut
Edwards Street
06-03-2009, 21:01
I believe that I am quite open about races, having no prejudices against any one race. I am also post pubescent, exhibiting a natural sexual attraction toward other people, which sex education assured me is healthy.

Today, I had a revelation about my preferences, which has never occurred to me: I am not sexually attracted to black women.


I was watching an episode of Star Trek TOS, where Lt. Uhura was being pleasant as ever. The actor (still) is stunning, as are many other black people, each of whom I would not hesitate to use as an example of the beauty of humans. I just cannot find any of them "sexually" enticing.

Is there anything wrong with this? Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people? There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.

No, I don't think it's a sign of racism, people of different races have different physical features/skin tones, and if you don't find those physical qualities sexual attractive, that's not racist. Myself, I find white and Hispanic women to be the most attractive.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 21:06
Had the answer been "yes there is something wrong with you," then the discussion would've turned out more interesting.

yes there is something wrong with you.
Galloism
06-03-2009, 21:09
job done then time to find you a Chinese bride (has to be Chinese because it would be like dating a Polish bird in terms of house chores)

How much is this going to cost me?
The Alma Mater
06-03-2009, 21:14
Is there anything wrong with this?

No. Just like there is nothing wrong with people who are not attracted to blondes, to fat women, women with blue eyes and so on. We do not choose who we are attracted to - which is why love is often so full of drama :p
Call to power
06-03-2009, 21:19
How much is this going to cost me?

iirc Chinese parents will pay you ;)

We do not choose who we are attracted to - which is why love is often so full of drama :p

but who would you choose if you could?
Galloism
06-03-2009, 21:20
iirc Chinese parents will pay you ;)

SWEET! I need some money.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 21:23
SWEET! I need some money.

http://chinese-brides.com/

*wonders if your gonna get a surprise with your bride*

edit: HS look at the 18-19 section
The Alma Mater
06-03-2009, 21:28
but who would you choose if you could?

Possibly someone I know I can live with ;) As far as looks are concerned the question is irrelevant - if I can choose what I am attracted to I could choose to be attracted to anything.
Galloism
06-03-2009, 21:30
http://chinese-brides.com/

*wonders if your gonna get a surprise with your bride*

edit: HS look at the 18-19 section

Only problem is she would probably make me lots of chinese food.

I hate chinese food.
Call to power
06-03-2009, 21:32
Possibly someone I know I can live with ;) As far as looks are concerned the question is irrelevant - if I can choose what I am attracted to I could choose to be attracted to anything.

*wonders how many people will say their partners*

stoopid love clouding my judgment but maybe being attracted to money could be good for you

SNIP

just ask for a 69
The Alma Mater
06-03-2009, 21:32
Only problem is she would probably make me lots of chinese food.

I hate chinese food.

China is a big place. Food varies alot ;) Not to mention that the stuff sold in Chinese restaurants is.. how shall I put it.. not really Chinese :p
Vault 10
06-03-2009, 21:33
Is there anything wrong with this? Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people? There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.
It is a symptom. You're subconsciously racist.

No, there's nothing wrong with this. Quite the contrary, it proves you're trustworthy and virtuous to your peoples' genes.
The Alma Mater
06-03-2009, 21:33
*wonders how many people will say their partners*

*wonders how many would really mean it*
Glorious Freedonia
06-03-2009, 21:33
Neither you nor George Bush cares for or about Black people.

George Bush loved the blacks
Galloism
06-03-2009, 21:34
just ask for a 69

<.<
>.>
Call to power
06-03-2009, 21:35
*wonders how many would really mean it*

*wonders how many will be sleeping on the couch regardless of what they say because all men are jerks etc etc*

<.<
>.>

well if your not into that there is plenty of other impoverished nations...and Russia is just crawling with them :confused:
The Free Priesthood
06-03-2009, 21:36
Is there anything wrong with this?

No. It seems most people are attracted to those with a similar tone of skin. This makes being "colorblind" or even preferring a different color than your own rather inconvenient, because it makes you more likely to become the victim of unrequited love. Also, depending on where you live, it might protect you from the drama that can be caused by dating someone from a very different culture.

Skin color, hair color, shape... it's all the same kind of thing, nothing wrong with having instincts that give you preferences.

Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people?

It could be, but probably not. Does the fact this self-accusation got into your mind at all tell us something about the people around you?

There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.

It's definitely not strange to not feel attracted to obese people. BTW IMHO It's also not strange to prefer them.
Knights of Liberty
06-03-2009, 22:35
No, not being attracted to certian skin tones does not make you racist.

Just like not being attracted to brunettes doesnt mean you will strive to create a racially pure, "Aryan" society.
Neo Bretonnia
06-03-2009, 22:41
Is there anything wrong with this? Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people? There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.

I think the fact that you've been conditioned to ask this is a sad commentary on how oversensitive our culture has become. Would it be sexist if you weren't attracted to women at all? Would it be some kind of evil discrimination if you realized you weren't sexually attracted to women with blonde hair? It's just a preference. You alone can determine whether or not you have a race problem, but I assure you it has nothing to do with your sexual preferences.
Neo Bretonnia
06-03-2009, 22:42
No, not being attracted to certian skin tones does not make you racist.

Just like not being attracted to brunettes doesnt mean you will strive to create a racially pure, "Aryan" society.

Yeah this. As usual somebody said it better and in fewer words than I did.
Wanderjar
07-03-2009, 00:14
I believe that I am quite open about races, having no prejudices against any one race. I am also post pubescent, exhibiting a natural sexual attraction toward other people, which sex education assured me is healthy.

Today, I had a revelation about my preferences, which has never occurred to me: I am not sexually attracted to black women.


I was watching an episode of Star Trek TOS, where Lt. Uhura was being pleasant as ever. The actor (still) is stunning, as are many other black people, each of whom I would not hesitate to use as an example of the beauty of humans. I just cannot find any of them "sexually" enticing.

Is there anything wrong with this? Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people? There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.


First of all, no. There is nothing wrong with not finding another ethnic group generally unattractive. I have plenty of black friends who are girls, but I am genuinely unattracted to any of them, nor have I ever seen a black woman I would date.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
07-03-2009, 00:32
Had the answer been "yes there is something wrong with you," then the discussion would've turned out more interesting.
Then I'll bite. There is something wrong with you, and that somethings is ... ah ... it is ... an deficiency of ... fiber. I suggest eating three whole heads of cabbage to correct your problem.
Svalbardania
07-03-2009, 01:34
Then I'll bite. There is something wrong with you, and that somethings is ... ah ... it is ... an deficiency of ... fiber. I suggest eating three whole heads of cabbage to correct your problem.

Oh Fiddles, that's your solution for EVERY-thing. Can't you be just a little more original? Just this once?
Risottia
07-03-2009, 01:39
I believe that I am quite open about races, having no prejudices against any one race. I am also post pubescent, exhibiting a natural sexual attraction toward other people, which sex education assured me is healthy.

Today, I had a revelation about my preferences, which has never occurred to me: I am not sexually attracted to black women.


So what? I personally am not attracted by blonde-haired and black-haired women (I prefer brunettes and redheads). This doesn't make me a racist. Why should not liking women with dark skin make you a racist? Surely you don't imply that BECAUSE you aren't attracted by those women they are inferior as group of people.
Redwulf
07-03-2009, 02:00
Everyone is subconsciously racist.

I've yet to see anyone who makes this accusation actually prove it. Care to give it a shot?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
07-03-2009, 02:12
Oh Fiddles, that's your solution for EVERY-thing. Can't you be just a little more original? Just this once?
I was more original that usual. Normally I say, "Two heads of cabbage and a stalk of broccoli." This time I switched it up a bit, with "Three heads of cabbage and no broccoli."
I'm really living it up out on the edge tonight! Woo boy!
VirginiaCooper
07-03-2009, 02:12
I've yet to see anyone who makes this accusation actually prove it. Care to give it a shot?

If you had a knowledge of sociology enough to be informed on the subject, you wouldn't need me to. But I'm an obliging fellow, so here you go.

http://racismaintover.blogspot.com/2005/12/subconscious-racism.html

That's the best article I could find which didn't require a password to read.
United Dependencies
07-03-2009, 04:40
I believe that I am quite open about races, having no prejudices against any one race. I am also post pubescent, exhibiting a natural sexual attraction toward other people, which sex education assured me is healthy.

Today, I had a revelation about my preferences, which has never occurred to me: I am not sexually attracted to black women.


I was watching an episode of Star Trek TOS, where Lt. Uhura was being pleasant as ever. The actor (still) is stunning, as are many other black people, each of whom I would not hesitate to use as an example of the beauty of humans. I just cannot find any of them "sexually" enticing.

Is there anything wrong with this? Is it a symptom of my subconscious racial prejudice I have against black people? There aren't many black people where I live, and the only black women I have seen in my school were all obese.

Are you kidding me! This totally makes you a racist bastard. Only racist find black women unattractive.

All of that was a joke btw. No I'm sure your fine its just sexual preference.
Redwulf
07-03-2009, 04:51
If you had a knowledge of sociology enough to be informed on the subject, you wouldn't need me to. But I'm an obliging fellow, so here you go.

http://racismaintover.blogspot.com/2005/12/subconscious-racism.html

That's the best article I could find which didn't require a password to read.

Can you show that the test in question is in any way valid? Besides, even IF the test is valid it can not be taken as proof that everyone is subconsciously racist unless everyone has taken said test. Can you prove that everyone has and that the test is valid or will you retract your claim?
Ryadn
07-03-2009, 04:54
I'm not sure what you mean when you say you're not attracted to black women. Are you not attracted to certain shades of skin? Are darkly-complexioned women of other races also not sexually stimulating to you?
Chumblywumbly
07-03-2009, 06:01
Everyone is subconsciously racist.
What does that even mean?


No, there's nothing wrong with this. Quite the contrary, it proves you're trustworthy and virtuous to your peoples' genes.
Say wha...?
Heinleinites
07-03-2009, 07:37
Only white people can be racist, didn't you know that? If you're not white, then you're in the clear racism-wise.

There's nothing wrong with not finding a specific race sexually appealing. Personally, I've not really ever found Asian women to be all that attractive.

If you had a knowledge of sociology enough to be informed on the subject, you wouldn't need me to. But I'm an obliging fellow, so here you go. http://racismaintover.blogspot.com/2005/12/subconscious-racism.html

Personally, I wouldn't be so snotty and then cite a post off of someone's blog as a definitive source. You really gotta go with either one or the other.
Knights of Liberty
07-03-2009, 08:28
Only white people can be racist, didn't you know that? If you're not white, then you're in the clear racism-wise.


Even in joke form, this victim act is still annoying.
Naturality
07-03-2009, 08:36
Anyone that claims to be a non racist .. is at least subconsciencely a bit racist. They just think they're better than they really are.
Ferrous Oxide
07-03-2009, 08:36
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I do find Beyonce and Halle Berry attractive, but to be honest, the features I find attractive in them are white-esque; both women are at least half white, after all.
Knights of Liberty
07-03-2009, 08:38
Anyone that claims to be a non racist .. is at least subconsciencely a bit racist. They just think they're better than they really are.

People really need to stop making this bullshit claim. Stop trying to justify your own issues.
The Alma Mater
07-03-2009, 08:46
What does that even mean?

Possibly they meant hat every human discriminates. Which seems to be true - I have never met someone who liked every other person equally.
Blouman Empire
07-03-2009, 08:52
Haha that's just fine. I asked the NSG psychiatrist because this a question I wouldn't want to be seen asking in public.

Had the answer been "yes there is something wrong with you," then the discussion would've turned out more interesting.

Ha, but there isn't anything wrong with it at all. It would be similar to saying a gay guy is sexist because he doesn't find women sexually attractive.
HotRodia
07-03-2009, 08:58
Possibly they meant hat every human discriminates. Which seems to be true - I have never met someone who liked every other person equally.

Have you met someone who disliked every other person equally?
Heinleinites
07-03-2009, 09:09
Even in joke form, this victim act is still annoying.

I'd hate to think you were annoyed, and by something so small as a joke, too. That is unconscionable on my part. I recommend deportation. Although, if that becomes general policy, this is going to be one lonely and under-populated forum.
The Alma Mater
07-03-2009, 09:32
Have you met someone who disliked every other person equally?

Nope. So I have never met a person that did not discriminate :p
HotRodia
07-03-2009, 09:38
Nope. So I have never met a person that did not discriminate :p

Not surprising. Discrimination is a basic mental process for us humans. It's hard to get rid of. And much of the time it's advantageous, so why would we want to get rid of it?

That said, I think black women are very sexually attractive.
Risottia
07-03-2009, 10:28
Everyone is subconsciously racist.

False.

There's a difference between xenophobia and racism.
Risottia
07-03-2009, 10:54
If you had a knowledge of sociology enough to be informed on the subject, you wouldn't need me to. But I'm an obliging fellow, so here you go.

http://racismaintover.blogspot.com/2005/12/subconscious-racism.html

That's the best article I could find which didn't require a password to read.

1.It's a blog. And a race-biased blog too, as it is clear if you care to read the header. The blogger classifies potential contributors by their race/ethnicity.

2.Took the test linked.
(result.Your Result
Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.)
The test FIRST gives you an association test where an error makes you associate "evil" with "african" (thus showing a "anti-black bias")... THEN gives you another association test where an error makes you associate "evil" with "european".

Of course, since it's the second time you do the task, you're less likely to make errors.

Also the sociological profiling in the preliminary is terrible. There was no choice for my own occupation, no choice representing my studies although it was possible to say that I'm an Italian living in Italy, and, curiously enough,
in the "race" section all ethnicities were differentiated by geographical area of origin... EXCEPT for the "caucasian", here called "white".

To sum it up, the Implicit Test is totally bollocks, and explicitly engineered to scream "OMG RACISM".
New Mitanni
08-03-2009, 07:13
Only white people can be racist, didn't you know that? If you're not white, then you're in the clear racism-wise.

Black men who date white women are obviously racists. Self-hating racists at that. Much like white liberals who go around proclaiming how everyone (read that everyone who's white) is secretly racist.
Redwulf
08-03-2009, 08:36
Anyone that claims to be a non racist .. is at least subconsciencely a bit racist. They just think they're better than they really are.

Lets see if you have better proof than the last person to make that statement in this thread. Please try to pull up more than a dodgy test.

I'm waiting . . .
SaintB
08-03-2009, 12:09
Nah Khan, nothing's wrong; you just aren't attracted. I've passed up tall, blond, and athletic for short, pale, and kind of pudgy. We all have different things we are attracted to.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
08-03-2009, 13:11
I kind of always felt bad that I don't really like Asian girls...until I saw this Asian lady pool champ who makes me turgid.

But I notice that she has a stick and balls, so it might just mean I'm gay.

You'll never know, with that pretentious facial hair.

If there is one thing which really gets my goat, it's a goatee. :mad:
Sirocco
08-03-2009, 14:30
edit: I just noticed I spelled subconscious in the title wrong.

Fixed.
Johnny B Goode
08-03-2009, 15:28
*shrug* It's just a sexual preference. Struth, I don't see the appeal either. :p

Happens to me too, cause I haven't met many hot black girls/women. I honestly haven't met many hot Indians either, which is worse cause this one assclown expects me to marry one, and once even asked whether my parents would arrange my marriage. (Disclaimer: I am Indian)