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Seriously, who else is tired of the endless media buzz over Rush Limbaugh? I don't get how a conservative commentator somehow translates to being leading to the GOP. You might as well ask: "is Keith Olbermann head the the Democratic Party?" because he's an outspoken Liberal talk show host. Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you, and me and Keith Olbermann. He want's to criticize the Democrats or Republicans or anyone else let him! If he want's to say "I want Obama to fail." why not? The last four years (2003-2008) you've all been running around saying "DIE BUSH" to massive applause! These two are media commentators, are they great commentators? Well that's debatable but by definition they are social commentators. Just like News Paper Editorial Writers, just like Political Cartoonists, just like Matt Groening and Seth McFarlane, FOX NEWS, CNN, MSNBC, and so on. That doesn't make them head of the parties.

We have a thread for this kind of discussion.

I bet it has something to do with the Chairman of the Republican National Committee being forced by his party to publicly apologize to Rush Limbaugh for being critical of him.

I bet it has something to do with the Chairman of the Republican National Committee being forced by his party to publicly apologize to Rush Limbaugh for being critical of him.

Along with the very obvious fact that Limbaugh has much more influence over the GOP than Olbermann over the Democratic Party.

Along with the very obvious fact that Limbaugh has much more influence over the GOP than Olbermann over the Democratic Party.

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as evidenced by the Chairman of the Republican National Committee being forced to publicly apologize to Rush Limbaugh for being critical of him.

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as evidenced by the Chairman of the Republican National Committee being forced to publicly apologize to Rush Limbaugh for being critical of him.

Sorry if I sounded redundant.

There must be an expression for what I just did in English. In Portuguese it's "Chover no molhado" - "to rain where it's wet".

Olbermann, like Limbaugh (interestingly enough) is a fat asshole who's so thoroughly obsessed with himself and his utter personal rightness it hurts.

Why worry about him?

Seriously, who else is tired of the endless media buzz over Rush Limbaugh?

Most people. But that damn liberal media, always publicizing his views...

I don't get how a conservative commentator somehow translates to being leading to the GOP.

I don't think anyone says he's the head of the Republican Party.

Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you

No one is trying to deny him the right to free speech.

He want's to criticize the Democrats or Republicans or anyone else let him!

And if we want to criticize him for his laughable position that's fine too.

If he want's to say "I want Obama to fail." why not?

He's allowed to say that. And we're allowed to comment on it. That's how this whole freedom of speech thing works.

The last four years (2003-2008) you've all been running around saying "DIE BUSH" to massive applause!

Oh really? I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of examples that support this then.

Oh really? I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of examples that support this then.

The right wingers couldn't even find evidence that people shouted KILL HIM when Obama was mentioned at a McCain rally, despite tapes of it being pervasive.

Oh, you misunderstand. The Democrats are delighted whenever Rush Limbaugh runs his mouth. They practically orgasmed when he said, "I hope he fails" and they giggle like little schoolgirls whenever a real Republican politician denies Rush's importance to the party then apologizes on his show the next day. Rush is the Democrat's best friend and I guarantee you that if John Boehner tried to shoot him, James Carville would dive in front of Rush and take the bullet himself. ;)

Seriously, who else is tired of the endless media buzz over Rush Limbaugh? I don't get how a conservative commentator somehow translates to being leading to the GOP. You might as well ask: "is Keith Olbermann head the the Democratic Party?"


The difference is - the Democratic Party actually has something it's been lacking - it HAS strong leadership, right now.

And, if you look at the GOP, that's what is lacking - they're directionless. And, unfortunately, it's made Rush Limbaugh into something of an acclaimed hero to part of the GOP party/base. The same way they're clamouring round Palin, Jindall... and even Joe the Plumber.


...because he's an outspoken Liberal talk show host. Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you, and me and Keith Olbermann. He want's to criticize the Democrats or Republicans or anyone else let him! If he want's to say "I want Obama to fail." why not? The last four years (2003-2008) you've all been running around saying "DIE BUSH"


Really? Shall I just wait here for you to find a quote of me saying that?


...to massive applause! These two are media commentators, are they great commentators? Well that's debatable but by definition they are social commentators. Just like News Paper Editorial Writers, just like Political Cartoonists, just like Matt Groening and Seth McFarlane, FOX NEWS, CNN, MSNBC, and so on. That doesn't make them head of the parties.

No, it doesn't. And?

People who disagreed with Bush's war were called anti-American. They were told they hated America, and that they didn't support the troops.

So - why are the rightwing pissing their pants to defend Rush when he says he hopes Obama FAILS to save America from financial armageddon?

The difference is - the Democratic Party actually has something it's been lacking - it HAS strong leadership, right now.

And, if you look at the GOP, that's what is lacking - they're directionless. And, unfortunately, it's made Rush Limbaugh into something of an acclaimed hero to part of the GOP party/base. The same way they're clamouring round Palin, Jindall... and even Joe the Plumber.

Just as a reminder, I heard this very same sort of talk out of Repub's in 2004 after the election. I personally expect defeated parties to regroup and develop new platforms, policies and leaders. Just not immediately.

Just as a reminder, I heard this very same sort of talk out of Repub's in 2004 after the election. I personally expect defeated parties to regroup and develop new platforms, policies and leaders. Just not immediately.

So do the Democrats. That's why they love it when Rush doesn't shut up. :)

Just as a reminder, I heard this very same sort of talk out of Repub's in 2004 after the election. I personally expect defeated parties to regroup and develop new platforms, policies and leaders. Just not immediately.

I agree. The Democrats were leaderless since Clinton. They made some gestures in certain directions, but their overall direction didn't really crystalise till 2005/2006, and they didn't get the leadership pressure until... well, 2006/2007.

I expect the Republicans to rebound, find a direction, and start actually pulling towards it. Some time. But I'm not seeing anything on the horizon, yet.

So do the Democrats. That's why they love it when Rush doesn't shut up. :)

It's so weirdly elegant, they have to do nothing at all, and gain all the resultant benefit :) I've got to admire it.

I had a long drive this afternoon and I tuned in on him for a little while (my MP3 radio adapter was coming in all fuzzy :( ), and, good god, he's like a proud little rooster or something. It's strange and disturbing.

It's so weirdly elegant, they have to do nothing at all, and gain all the resultant benefit :) I've got to admire it.

I had a long drive this afternoon and I tuned in on him for a little while (my MP3 radio adapter was coming in all fuzzy :( ), and, good god, he's like a proud little rooster or something. It's strange and disturbing.

Yep. All they have to do is keep pointing. Rush is doing all the heavy lifting. The best part is that Rush loves the publicity. ;)

Seriously, who else is tired of the endless media buzz over Rush Limbaugh? I don't get how a conservative commentator somehow translates to being leading to the GOP. You might as well ask: "is Keith Olbermann head the the Democratic Party?" because he's an outspoken Liberal talk show host. Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you, and me and Keith Olbermann. He want's to criticize the Democrats or Republicans or anyone else let him! If he want's to say "I want Obama to fail." why not? The last four years (2003-2008) you've all been running around saying "DIE BUSH" to massive applause! These two are media commentators, are they great commentators? Well that's debatable but by definition they are social commentators. Just like News Paper Editorial Writers, just like Political Cartoonists, just like Matt Groening and Seth McFarlane, FOX NEWS, CNN, MSNBC, and so on. That doesn't make them head of the parties.

The head of the DNC doesn't apologize to Keith Olbermann. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19517.html)

The Democrats don't need some talk show host to be their leader. They already have a perfectly good one.

I agree. The Democrats were leaderless since Clinton. They made some gestures in certain directions, but their overall direction didn't really crystalise till 2005/2006, and they didn't get the leadership pressure until... well, 2006/2007.

I expect the Republicans to rebound, find a direction, and start actually pulling towards it. Some time. But I'm not seeing anything on the horizon, yet.

Hopefully in a nice, European, center-right direction.

The OP is a waste of bandwidth

Hopefully in a nice, European, center-right direction.

A decent (secular) conservative movement would be a good direction, but I'm not sure how popular it would be.

A decent (secular) conservative movement would be a good direction, but I'm not sure how popular it would be.

Prospects look bleak. Economy means a lot of people are confused, scared and angry. The party leader who best channels that growing rage stands a chance to bring it to victory if the coming times look to be continued suckage - which, unfortunately, they do.

And Limbaugh does successfully channel that red-faced, chest-pounding sensation. Things get bad enough, we really could have Limbaugh 2012...

I for one welcome our new democratic olberlord

Well, the Democrats during the Bush years were very outspoken in criticizing those who said things like "Die Bush" and "Gen. Betrayus"...yet, not one Republican will stand up to Limbaugh...

Not to mention, Keith Olbermann isnt my choice for head of the Democratic Party...Im more of a Hardball fan, lol...

A decent (secular) conservative movement would be a good direction, but I'm not sure how popular it would be.

In the short term, no, but the eventual economic turnaround will likely foster such a state of affairs.

I don't think anyone says he's the head of the Republican Party.

Rahm does.

Seriously, who else is tired of the endless media buzz over Rush Limbaugh? I don't get how a conservative commentator somehow translates to being leading to the GOP. You might as well ask: "is Keith Olbermann head the the Democratic Party?" because he's an outspoken Liberal talk show host. Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you, and me and Keith Olbermann. He want's to criticize the Democrats or Republicans or anyone else let him! If he want's to say "I want Obama to fail." why not? The last four years (2003-2008) you've all been running around saying "DIE BUSH" to massive applause! These two are media commentators, are they great commentators? Well that's debatable but by definition they are social commentators. Just like News Paper Editorial Writers, just like Political Cartoonists, just like Matt Groening and Seth McFarlane, FOX NEWS, CNN, MSNBC, and so on. That doesn't make them head of the parties.

That mean ole' liberal media forcing CPAC to headline Limbaugh and force its members to treat him like a deity. :eek:

Seriously, who else is tired of the endless media buzz over Rush Limbaugh? I don't get how a conservative commentator somehow translates to being leading to the GOP. You might as well ask: "is Keith Olbermann head the the Democratic Party?" because he's an outspoken Liberal talk show host. Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you, and me and Keith Olbermann. He want's to criticize the Democrats or Republicans or anyone else let him! If he want's to say "I want Obama to fail." why not? The last four years (2003-2008) you've all been running around saying "DIE BUSH" to massive applause! These two are media commentators, are they great commentators? Well that's debatable but by definition they are social commentators. Just like News Paper Editorial Writers, just like Political Cartoonists, just like Matt Groening and Seth McFarlane, FOX NEWS, CNN, MSNBC, and so on. That doesn't make them head of the parties.

Don't assume that those making Rush an issue have honest motivations. They don't. From the White House on down, this is purely a political operation designed to advance the Party's power-grabbing and divert attention from things like, oh, the devastation of the stock market due to the Dark Lord's constant panic-mongering.

Just remember: Obama LIED, the economy DIED!

Don't assume that those making Rush an issue have honest motivations. They don't. From the White House on down, this is purely a political operation designed to advance the Party's power-grabbing and divert attention from things like, oh, the devastation of the stock market due to the Dark Lord's constant panic-mongering.

Just remember: Obama LIED, the economy DIED!

Aren't you supposed to be taking the One Ring to the fires of Mount Rushmore or something?

Don't assume that those making Rush an issue have honest motivations. They don't.


This is probably true. The media wants to sell copy, and while it's a 'pure-ish' motivation, it's hardly pristine - and that goes for both sides of the spectrum, Rush included.

Among the politicians, both main parties stand to make profit from Rush's inability to say sensible things.


From the White House on down, this is purely a political operation designed to advance the Party's power-grabbing


So, you believe that Rush is a pawn of the whitehouse? After all - it was he that opened this issue up, in the first place. Similarly, you must believe that the Republican party are working under whitehouse orders, since it was arguably Republicans attacking Rush that brought this matter to the forefront.


...and divert attention from things like, oh, the devastation of the stock market due to the Dark Lord's constant panic-mongering.

Just remember: Obama LIED, the economy DIED!

And the Holocaust started the Second World War? Or does revisionist history only work for you in certain conditions?

Aren't you supposed to be taking the One Ring to the fires of Mount Rushmore or something?

Epic Counter.

Aren't you supposed to be taking the One Ring to the fires of Mount Rushmore or something?

I saw the bullshit he posted, and I assumed someone would obliterate him easily enough for me not to have to intervene.

I'm glad I was right. Magnificent technique.

Aren't you supposed to be taking the One Ring to the fires of Mount Rushmore or something?

Win.

Well thanks. :) He handed me that one on a silver platter.

Well thanks. :) He handed me that one on a silver platter.

Now, now. Don't be modest. It's as much of a sin to think too lowly of oneself as it is to think too highly.

Now, now. Don't be modest. It's as much of a sin to think too lowly of oneself as it is to think too highly.

*Writes that down*

Limbaugh has a right to free speech just like you
Oh, no, nononono no, no. Heh, no. Nope. Not even close.
His "free speech" has cost Americans a lot. A LOT.

Just remember: *misc. bullshit*!Yeah ... just remember to catch the March 4, 2009 episode of The Daily Show.