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All Political Leaders Draw Their Authority from God.

Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:33
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."

So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?
Wilgrove
04-03-2009, 06:37
Wow....just...wow.... So in the conflict between Israel and Palestine, who is "God" supporting?
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:38
Wow....just...wow.... So in the conflict between Israel and Palestine, who is "God" supporting?

http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Dissociative_Identity_Disorder_(formerly_Multiple_Personality_Disorder).htm
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 06:38
Well...A Representative Democracy...From the Constitution, which serves as a Social Contract between the leaders and the people...

Much as the religious right would like to bitch about it, Our leaders dont owe god shit, lol...
Blouman Empire
04-03-2009, 06:38
We have a parliamentry democracy thing going on.

No I don't think he draws his authority from God, sometimes I reckon that he thinks he is God.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-03-2009, 06:38
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. -Matthew 22:21

Jesus seems to disagree. ;)
Wilgrove
04-03-2009, 06:39
http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Dissociative_Identity_Disorder_(formerly_Multiple_Personality_Disorder).htm

You know....that would actually explain well...pretty much the whole Bible...
Free Soviets
04-03-2009, 06:40
http://images.nymag.com/daily/intel/20081231_blagojevich_560x375.jpg
"I'm on a mission from God."
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:41
Well...A Representative Democracy...From the Constitution, which serves as a Social Contract between the leaders and the people...

Much as the religious right would like to bitch about it, Our leaders dont owe god shit, lol...

Keep talking shit, and God will send another Hurricane Katrina, like the one he sent to punish us for removing prayer from school.

Or maybe a meteor is next, I haven't seen God's "Emperor Ming the Merciless" pulldown menu of divine retribution, but he's cookin' shit up.
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 06:42
Keep talking shit, and God will send another Hurricane Katrina, like the one he sent to punish us for removing prayer from school.

Or maybe a meteor is next, I haven't seen God's "Emperor Ming the Merciless" pulldown menu of divine retribution, but he's cookin' shit up.

lol, Alot of people did say that God sent it to punish casinos...


However, the fact that much worse damage was done to churches seems to dispel that rumor...

EDIT: Besides, Bobby Jindal intends to stop the funding for Natural Disasters, so we have nothing to worry about, lol
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:42
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. -Matthew 22:21

Jesus seems to disagree. ;)

Dude, seriously, the Archbishop's book is called "Render Unto Caesar". I'm tempted to go flip through it to see how he pulls it off.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:44
lol, Alot of people did say that God sent it to punish casinos...


However, the fact that much worse damage was done to churches seems to dispel that rumor...

Wow...God sent Katrina to punish Casinos?

I guess out here in Vegas, he just sent Criss Angel...
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 06:45
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. -Matthew 22:21

Jesus seems to disagree. ;)

Well, you see, Fundamentalists see these things literally, therefore, when Cesar was killed, God inherited his belongings, lol...
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:46
Well, you see, Fundamentalists see these things literally, therefore, when Cesar was killed, God inherited his belongings, lol...

That was an awkward probate meeting...
Lunatic Goofballs
04-03-2009, 06:49
They are denying me access to the article now. First the burning of holy water splashed on me and now this. It isn't fair. :(
Chernobyl-Pripyat
04-03-2009, 06:50
Who, these guys?

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6213/putinmedvedev.jpg
Western Mercenary Unio
04-03-2009, 06:50
We are a parliamentary republic and no, I don't think that Halonen gets her powers from god.
South Lorenya
04-03-2009, 06:51
I live in a civilized country, so the leaders here draw their authority from the people instead of a dead demon.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:52
They are denying me access to the article now. First the burning of holy water splashed on me and now this. It isn't fair. :(

Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput is the guy, he spoke recently at the University of Toronto. Google some of that shit, oughta come up.

And remember, we must respect this man and what he says. Should zombie outbreak occur, this guy gets like +5 to Turn Undead...thats worth more than 200 rounds of .223 and a working pickup truck When The Man Comes Around.
Anti-Social Darwinism
04-03-2009, 06:52
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."

So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?

I live in Colorado and, in spite of the Archbish, it's not a theocracy.

I would like to know from which God his political leaders draw their authority. I have a personal preference for Loki or, since this is the western US, Coyote.
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 06:53
Wow...God sent Katrina to punish Casinos?

I guess out here in Vegas, he just sent Criss Angel...

As if God was enough of a dick to send Criss Angel anywhere. Only Jude Law is that much of a Cheney.

Slightly more on topic (umm...what was that again?) I think it's pretty clear that all leaders derive their authority from their teeny weeny pee-pees.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:53
We are a parliamentary republic and no, I don't think that Halonen gets her powers from god.

Finland, as a political entity, derives its powers from having produced the greatest sniper in history.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-03-2009, 06:54
Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput is the guy, he spoke recently at the University of Toronto. Google some of that shit, oughta come up.

And remember, we must respect this man and what he says. Should zombie outbreak occur, this guy gets like +5 to Turn Undead...thats worth more than 200 rounds of .223 and a working pickup truck When The Man Comes Around.

Bah! I have one of these:

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/dummies.JPG

:D
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:54
I live in a civilized country, so the leaders here draw their authority from the people instead of a dead demon.

As the Archbishop will happily educate you about, his god is the Living God. Like that freaky blonde dude in Ghostbusters 2.
South Lorenya
04-03-2009, 06:55
As the Archbishop will happily educate you about, his god is the Living God. Like that freaky blonde dude in Ghostbusters 2.

As I will happily educate you, I was there when Jehovah died.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:55
As if God was enough of a dick to send Criss Angel anywhere. Only Jude Law is that much of a Cheney.

Slightly more on topic (umm...what was that again?) I think it's pretty clear that all leaders derive their authority from their teeny weeny pee-pees.

Guess that's why we now have a black dude in office and we'll never see an Asian president...
Rotovia-
04-03-2009, 06:56
Does that mean we can blame God for the economic crises?
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 06:56
Finland, as a political entity, derives its powers from having produced the greatest sniper in history.

I thought it derived it's authority from having a lot of libraries.
Wilgrove
04-03-2009, 06:57
I live in Colorado and, in spite of the Archbish, it's not a theocracy.

I would like to know from which God his political leaders draw their authority. I have a personal preference for Loki or, since this is the western US, Coyote.

I have a personal preference for Wodan and Freya myself.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:58
As I will happily educate you, I was there when Jehovah died.

Bye bye miss american pie, drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry...
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 06:58
Does that mean we can blame God for the economic crises?

No. We thank God for good things, we accept blame for bad things.

That's not just good atheist hating talk. Its policy now.
Gauntleted Fist
04-03-2009, 07:00
My political leaders draw their authority from...God, sure.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc89/BLK_Katana/239816Christopher-Walken-Posters.jpg

Most people call him just call him Chris.
South Lorenya
04-03-2009, 07:00
Finland, as a political entity, derives its powers from having produced the greatest sniper in history.

Arguably the greatest sniper is Rob Furlong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Furlong) of newfoundland, as he has the longest confirmed sniping (1.51 miles).
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 07:00
I would like to know from which God his political leaders draw their authority. I have a personal preference for Loki or, since this is the western US, Coyote.

Psh, Eris could totally mop the floor with Loki, one Apple, and the whole damn Aesir'll be down in flames, lol..
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 07:03
I live in Colorado and, in spite of the Archbish, it's not a theocracy.

I would like to know from which God his political leaders draw their authority. I have a personal preference for Loki or, since this is the western US, Coyote.

And Coyote said to Bear, "Hey, Bear....'sup man..."

And Bear said to Coyote, "Are you high again?"

And Coyote said, "Its cool, dude, I'm not driving or anything...its an entheogenic, man..."

And Bear said, "Yeah, I know, man, but its like...you're kinda baked all the time these days, I mean I haven't really seen you not high in-"

And Coyote was like, "Okay, I don't need you preaching at me, man!"

And Bear was all, "I know, I'm not trying to get all heavy in your face, but-"

And Coyote said, "But you totally are, I mean, you're like one of those dumbass commercials, and I'm just chillin', enjoyin' the day, enjoyin' my buzz, you know?"

And Bear was like, "Yeah, but that's my point man. You're always buzzed...I mean, we all spark it, but you gotta come down some time, you know?"

And Coyote was all, "Whatever, Nancy Reagan...so...shit, I gotta go deliver political authority to the new President of the United States."
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 07:04
Guess that's why we now have a black dude in office and we'll never see an Asian president...

You don't seriously buy into that black-guys-have-big-wangs crap do you? I thought it was common knowledge that that theory was bunkum. In fact, it was made up by The Evil Alliance, consisting of Adidas, Nike, Glock, McDonald's and The Party. They got together and began spreading lies about the size of the packages of African Americans, thus causing all blacks to buy ridiculously oversized shorts, leading to the need to buy ridiculously oversized everything to keep proportioned, including massive handguns. They would use these guns to shoot each other because they were all insecure, thinking that they were the only ones with normal sized phalluses, causing the crime rate to rise, letting Dear Leader and the Party marginalise them further.

This tragic waste of life could have been avoided if there'd been more gay sex.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 07:05
Arguably the greatest sniper is Rob Furlong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Furlong) of newfoundland, as he has the longest confirmed sniping (1.51 miles).

Christ with a dead hooker in his trunk, that's a hell of a shot. I was going by highest number of confirmed kills, but I can see where that criteria should hold some weight, too.

That's a hell of fuckin' shot, man.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 07:07
My political leaders draw their authority from...God, sure.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc89/BLK_Katana/239816Christopher-Walken-Posters.jpg

Most people call him just call him Chris.

I'd like to see Walken do a dramatic reading of Obama's last big speech.
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 07:07
You don't seriously buy into that black-guys-have-big-wangs crap do you? I thought it was common knowledge that that theory was bunkum. In fact, it was made up by The Evil Alliance, consisting of Adidas, Nike, Glock, McDonald's and The Party. They got together and began spreading lies about the size of the packages of African Americans, thus causing all blacks to buy ridiculously oversized shorts, leading to the need to buy ridiculously oversized everything to keep proportioned, including massive handguns. They would use these guns to shoot each other because they were all insecure, thinking that they were the only ones with normal sized phalluses, causing the crime rate to rise, letting Dear Leader and the Party marginalise them further.

This tragic waste of life could have been avoided if there'd been more gay sex.

That's what you said about the Bubonic Plague.
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 07:08
I'd like to see Walken do a dramatic reading of Obama's last big speech.

I'd like to see Christopher Walken.
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 07:09
That's what you said about the Bubonic Plague.

And I was right wasn't I? How many outbreaks of the Black Death have there been in San Fran? Or modern Sweden? Hmmm?
Gauntleted Fist
04-03-2009, 07:10
I'd like to see Walken do a dramatic reading of Obama's last big speech.That'd be pretty awesome.

I'd like to see Christopher Walken.He only reveals himself to the chosen who pay for it. :D
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 07:11
I'd like to see Christopher Walken.

well, there's always: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Walken_filmography
;)
Heikoku 2
04-03-2009, 07:13
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."

So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?

My country is a presidentialist republic in which our leaders get their authority from the people who elected them.

Unless the Archbishop of Denver is calling all Brazilians God, he's wrong and a moron.

That he tries to assign divine authority to leaders in some misguided attempt to erode the wall of separation between Church and State just continues to perplex. I don't claim his Pope derives authority from the votes of Catholics - especially considering for one moment that that fossil of a former Nazi is loathed by MANY Catholics.

Furthermore, a claim of political leadership being derived from God is plain dehumanizing people. Not to mention the slight detail of finding out who God is. I could claim to be God and there'd be no way to prove me wrong.

If the Archbishop of Denver doesn't like it, if he wants to take it to a higher authority, there isn't one. It stops with me.
Kyronea
04-03-2009, 07:20
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."

So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?

The Archbishop of Denver is a freaking idiot. I met him once. I was not impressed.
Indecline
04-03-2009, 07:25
The Catholic News Agency is always good for a chuckle..
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 07:26
I could claim to be God and there'd be no way to prove me wrong.

Well...you see...You have to defeat this guy, Jehova (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehova), who defeated this guy, Jupiter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology)), who defeated this guy, Zeus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus), who defeated this guy, Cronus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus), who defeated this guy, Ouranos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus_(mythology))...

And thats just to get to the major Boss level, so you can fight this guy, http://www.poormojo.org/hate/RaptorJesus.jpg...

And if you manage all that, as well as unlocking the Bonus Boss Hidden Character (http://www.zombiefriends.com/image/2160/gallery/opt_Zombie-Jesus-10-copy.jpg)...

You have to then mention their names and the length of their reigns in chronological order starting with the first and then ending with the last before you can become the one true god from which all politicians derive their power, *whew* lol...
Barringtonia
04-03-2009, 07:27
Look, I just drew authority from God as well!

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/Barringtonia_bucket/DSC00172.jpg
Heikoku 2
04-03-2009, 07:29
Well...you see...You have to defeat this guy, Jehova (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehova), who defeated this guy, Jupiter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology)), who defeated this guy, Zeus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus), who defeated this guy, Cronus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus), who defeated this guy, Ouranos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus_(mythology))...

And thats just to get to the major Boss level, so you can fight this guy, http://www.poormojo.org/hate/RaptorJesus.jpg...

And if you manage all that, as well as unlocking the Bonus Boss Hidden Character (http://www.zombiefriends.com/image/2160/gallery/opt_Zombie-Jesus-10-copy.jpg)...

You have to then mention their names and the length of their reigns in chronological order starting with the first and then ending with the last before you can become the one true god from which all politicians derive their power, *whew* lol...

Did you just give your God a video-game walkthrough?
Heikoku 2
04-03-2009, 07:30
Look, I just drew authority from God as well!

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/Barringtonia_bucket/DSC00172.jpg

Let's duel! Draw your weapon!

(Ah, old Bugs Bunny cartoons...)
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 07:30
Look, I just drew authority from God as well!

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/Barringtonia_bucket/DSC00172.jpg

Oh very droll, sir.
Barringtonia
04-03-2009, 07:33
Oh very droll, sir.

I'm especially proud of the Bart Simpson shorts, my Fine Art degree hasn't gone to waste after all.
Querinos
04-03-2009, 07:45
I would like to know from which God his political leaders draw their authority. I have a personal preference for Loki or, since this is the western US, Coyote.

I know I'd vote for Coyote.
Anti-Social Darwinism
04-03-2009, 07:48
And Coyote said to Bear, "Hey, Bear....'sup man..."

And Bear said to Coyote, "Are you high again?"

And Coyote said, "Its cool, dude, I'm not driving or anything...its an entheogenic, man..."

And Bear said, "Yeah, I know, man, but its like...you're kinda baked all the time these days, I mean I haven't really seen you not high in-"

And Coyote was like, "Okay, I don't need you preaching at me, man!"

And Bear was all, "I know, I'm not trying to get all heavy in your face, but-"

And Coyote said, "But you totally are, I mean, you're like one of those dumbass commercials, and I'm just chillin', enjoyin' the day, enjoyin' my buzz, you know?"

And Bear was like, "Yeah, but that's my point man. You're always buzzed...I mean, we all spark it, but you gotta come down some time, you know?"

And Coyote was all, "Whatever, Nancy Reagan...so...shit, I gotta go deliver political authority to the new President of the United States."

or, possibly ... http://www.walnet.org/csis/groups/coyote.html
Skallvia
04-03-2009, 07:50
Did you just give your God a video-game walkthrough?

Yeah, lol...

I actually started thinking it would make a great Street Fighter-esque game...

Maybe have an Arcade mode where you choose from various deities and fight to be the One True God...

And then like, a Campaign mode, which would be similar to arcade, just instead you have a Create-a-Deity, and you can choose your appearance, moves, and special moves, which would be based on whether you chose to be an Elemental God, or an Omnipotent God. Elementals, of course get to choose which element they will represent and therefore base their moves around. And Omnipotents would get one move thats much more powerful, because of the Reality Warping abilities...And I was thinking that the Elementals could use their powers as many times as they want, but their abilities are slightly weaker, but Omnipotents get only one use per fight from their ability, due to its increased strength....


And when you are done you get to see all the people and governments drawing their authority from your chosen char. lol...
Urghu
04-03-2009, 09:30
Well, if God is most powerful being in the universe, how do you think made you vote for Obama? According to secure sources here at NSG he is not even a real American citizen...

On the other side, then God would also have put Hitler, Stalin and some other not so nice persons in power. So then God can not be such a nice guy after all.

In Sweden we elect our leaders on how much snaps they can drink and still sing the national anthem. We found this way to be much better then to trust the citizen which you all know are idiots.
The Alma Mater
04-03-2009, 09:39
Well.. the ruling parties of the coalition government in my country currently are the Christian Democrats, the Christian Union and the Labour party.

So I guess some of them do believe that, yes.
Bokkiwokki
04-03-2009, 09:54
http://images.nymag.com/daily/intel/20081231_blagojevich_560x375.jpg
"I'm on a mission from God."

What's that you say? "I'm an omission from God"?
Svalbardania
04-03-2009, 09:57
What's that you say? "I'm an omission from God"?

http://www.totallyteeshirts.com/ekmps/shops/totallytees/images/tvfilm-bluesbrothers-red.jpg
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 10:19
Well.. the ruling parties of the coalition government in my country currently are the Christian Democrats, the Christian Union and the Labour party.

So I guess some of them do believe that, yes.

Maybe the Labour people just forgot to put "Christian" in their name, and they already printed up all the bumper stickers and had the door stenciled, so, you know, fuck it.
Boonytopia
04-03-2009, 10:21
Strictly speaking we're a parliamentary democracy, but if the bishop says all leaders draw their authority from god then it must be true. I mean, it's not like he's got a vested interest or slanted point of view. :rolleyes:
Jhahanam with a Goatee
04-03-2009, 10:23
Strictly speaking we're a parliamentary democracy, but if the bishop says all leaders draw their authority from god then it must be true. I mean, it's not like he's got a vested interest or slanted point of view. :rolleyes:

*God rises to speak in parliament*

My lords and ladies, surely, Oasis is the greatest band since the Beatles. Can we not vote on this?
Dumb Ideologies
04-03-2009, 11:25
In Britain our leader draws his authority from a majority vote in the constituency of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath. And, of course the Labour party leaders who ensured no one stood against him in the leadership election. God has nothing to do with legitimacy, apart from with the monarchy, who have a divine right to a life of privilige for themselves and their parasite children and to hold the position of head of state
Eofaerwic
04-03-2009, 11:36
Hmm... I thought we stopped believing in Divine Right of our leaders about the time that one of the people claiming it got his head cut off by an angry mob for being a dick.
Conserative Morality
04-03-2009, 12:07
Does this mean Nero drew his support from God?
The Alma Mater
04-03-2009, 12:13
Does this mean Nero drew his support from God?

Yep. Just like Stalin.
Muravyets
04-03-2009, 15:24
My political leaders draw their authority from...God, sure.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc89/BLK_Katana/239816Christopher-Walken-Posters.jpg


Most people call him just call him Chris.
:hail:

I'd like to see Walken do a dramatic reading of Obama's last big speech.
I propose that the WH commission Walken to read all of Obama's speeches to date and sell DVDs of the complete collection via the WH website, with tv ad, of course.

As for what supernatural entity grants authority to my political leaders -- guess: I live in Massachusetts -- "Come for the gay marriage, stay for the weed!"
Khadgar
04-03-2009, 15:45
Hitler's authority was drawn from God? But I thought Jews were God's chosen people...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Kerrah_photos/Exploding-head.gif
Urghu
04-03-2009, 15:49
Hitler's authority was drawn from God? But I thought Jews were God's chosen people...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Kerrah_photos/Exploding-head.gif

The problem with being chosen is that you never know what you are chosen for...:$
Wanderjar
04-03-2009, 15:55
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."

So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?


Thats a little known passage from the Bible. Remember kiddies! The Bible wasn't written by God, but by normal human men...the better part of it THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS after the birth of Christ and edited at the Council of Nicaea. What better way to establish absolute power than by sticking in the holiest of books, "Oh and by the way...its a sin to question your government! *gasp!*"

Its funny you bring this up, my Dad and I were just discussing this very biblical passage last night and the sheer idiocy of it. I'm a religious guy, I believe in God but I'm not one of those douchebags who goes around waving Bibles in peoples faces and threatening them with eternal damnation. Some people take it waaaay too far. I personally am content to believe that God is a Libertarian...i.e he don't give a fuck what you do so long as you're cool to everyone else ;)
Yootopia
04-03-2009, 15:56
Ours used to until we got over that pish.
Wanderjar
04-03-2009, 15:57
Yep. Just like Stalin.

We, of course, cannot forget Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, or Pinochet. They were obviously ruling at the divine will of God. *nod*
Khadgar
04-03-2009, 16:23
We, of course, cannot forget Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, or Pinochet. They were obviously ruling at the divine will of God. *nod*

God works in mysterious ways!
Edwards Street
04-03-2009, 16:26
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."

So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?

Almost sounds like the "Divine Right of Kings" philosohpy of the 1700's.....
Nanatsu no Tsuki
04-03-2009, 16:44
I sure as heck hope my presindet doesn't draw his authority from teh God. If that is so, Spain is fucked. Royally at that too. *nod*
Deus Malum
04-03-2009, 17:36
or, possibly ... http://www.walnet.org/csis/groups/coyote.html

More like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Gogogo.jpg
Risottia
04-03-2009, 17:39
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176

Ten paragraphs down, the Archbishop of Denver lets us know that "all political leaders draw their authority from God."


YAY! God supports ME as I'm a local party executive! You non-politicians are all sooo fucked now. :D

Seriously, now, I wouldn't call the Archbishop of Denver exactly a non-biased source in such issues.
Risottia
04-03-2009, 17:40
*God rises to speak in parliament*

My lords and ladies, surely, Oasis is the greatest band since the Beatles. Can we not vote on this?

And what if God loses the confidence vote? Do we get to elect a new God?
Wanderjar
04-03-2009, 17:46
God works in mysterious ways!

So it would seem...
The Alma Mater
04-03-2009, 17:51
More like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Gogogo.jpg

Speaking of Godhood.. should you not adjust your avatar to todays Vaarsuvius ;) ?

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5764/evilv2.gif (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=evilv2.gif)
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Wanderjar
04-03-2009, 17:53
And what if God loses the confidence vote? Do we get to elect a new God?

When God sends you lemons, YOU FIND A NEW GOD!


http://slcgw.com/images/powerthirst2.jpg
Bokkiwokki
04-03-2009, 21:48
http://www.totallyteeshirts.com/ekmps/shops/totallytees/images/tvfilm-bluesbrothers-red.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1876/omission.jpg)

Ah, so I heard it right.
No Names Left Damn It
04-03-2009, 21:51
As it should be, I am ruled by a horde of invisible leprechauns, who tell me to hurt people.
The blessed Chris
04-03-2009, 21:53
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. -Matthew 22:21

Jesus seems to disagree. ;)

I'm sure this has already been noted, but, being too laxy to check, I'll simply respond with this; "the powers that be are appointed by God" Romans, 13.1.

So, after that, your point, beyond playing the jocular fuckwit, is?
Rambhutan
04-03-2009, 23:22
I'm sure this has already been noted, but, being too laxy to check, I'll simply respond with this; "the powers that be are appointed by God" Romans, 13.1.

So, after that, your point, beyond playing the jocular fuckwit, is?

"She lusted after their genitals – as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions." Ezekiel 23.20
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 02:04
The current US president doesnt draw his authority from God. He draws it from Allah.
Modzer0
05-03-2009, 03:25
Apparently I live in a Theocracy..at least until the next election cycle. Damn Caribou Barbie.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-03-2009, 03:28
And Coyote said to Bear, "Hey, Bear....'sup man..."

And Bear said to Coyote, "Are you high again?"

And Coyote said, "Its cool, dude, I'm not driving or anything...its an entheogenic, man..."

And Bear said, "Yeah, I know, man, but its like...you're kinda baked all the time these days, I mean I haven't really seen you not high in-"

And Coyote was like, "Okay, I don't need you preaching at me, man!"

And Bear was all, "I know, I'm not trying to get all heavy in your face, but-"

And Coyote said, "But you totally are, I mean, you're like one of those dumbass commercials, and I'm just chillin', enjoyin' the day, enjoyin' my buzz, you know?"

And Bear was like, "Yeah, but that's my point man. You're always buzzed...I mean, we all spark it, but you gotta come down some time, you know?"

And Coyote was all, "Whatever, Nancy Reagan...so...shit, I gotta go deliver political authority to the new President of the United States."

Yay! :D
Lunatic Goofballs
05-03-2009, 03:34
I'm sure this has already been noted, but, being too laxy to check, I'll simply respond with this; "the powers that be are appointed by God" Romans, 13.1.

So, after that, your point, beyond playing the jocular fuckwit, is?

Do you have something against me being a jocular fuckwit? I make a comfortable living as a jocular fuckwit.

I suppose I could note that the first is purported to be a quote from Jesus and the second was from a letter written by Paul(who never actually met Jesus except in a hallucination after he fell off his horse and bumped his head). I could further remark which one I consider more authoritative. But I think I'll just push you into mud instead.

*does so*
Lunatic Goofballs
05-03-2009, 03:35
"She lusted after their genitals – as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions." Ezekiel 23.20

Words to live your life by. Oh yes.
Fario
05-03-2009, 03:36
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Lunatic Goofballs
05-03-2009, 03:37
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Jesus told me to tell you to lay off the smilies. You don't quite have the hang of them. *nod*
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 03:38
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

lulz.
Fario
05-03-2009, 03:41
Jesus told me to tell you to lay off the smilies. You don't quite have the hang of them. *nod*

stop talking to yourself, really your not proving yourself anything. Jesus died about 2000 years ago, making it impossible to talk to him. God too
Gauntleted Fist
05-03-2009, 03:41
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:Somebody's "madmadmad"!
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 03:42
stop talking to yourself, really your not proving yourself anything. Jesus died about 2000 years ago, making it impossible to talk to him. God too

God didnt die 2000 years ago. He died about 100 years ago when Nietzsche said he did.
Chumblywumbly
05-03-2009, 03:43
He died about 100 years ago when Nietzsche said he did.
Only if you're a constructivist about the external world.

EDIT: Nietzsche didn't mean a being called God had actually died, he meant that -- based upon his view that the content of your mind determines the world around you; that there is no mind-independent world -- the concept of (the Abrahamic) God had 'died' because of a (correct) lack of belief.

[/philosophical pedantry]
DaWoad
05-03-2009, 03:46
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Somebody's new . . .
Fario
05-03-2009, 03:47
God didnt die 2000 years ago. He died about 100 years ago when Nietzsche said he did.


are you high or just plain retarded, how come god has never showed himself or jesus, or for that matter what has god ever done for us. jesus died about 2000 years ago scientific evedence and ancient writing proves it. anywhays wasn't jesus a jew?
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 03:50
are you high or just plain retarded,

Oh God, what an awesome question. The refernece went way over this kid head, and it was such an obvious one too.

Please, no one report him. Im having way too much fun.

jesus died about 2000 years ago scientific evedence and ancient writing proves it.

The bible says he died 2000 years ago too.

anywhays wasn't jesus a jew?

Probably not. He was a carpenter, not an investment banker. And I havent seen a single picture of him with a big, crooked nose.
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 03:50
Only if you're a constructivist about the external world.

EDIT: Nietzsche didn't mean a being called God had actually died, he meant that -- based upon his view that the content of your mind determines the world around you; that there is no mind-independent world -- the concept of (the Abrahamic) God had 'died' because of a (correct) lack of belief.

[/philosophical pedantry]

I know I know. I was just giving the noobcake an obvious refernece.


Which he missed.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-03-2009, 03:51
stop talking to yourself, really your not proving yourself anything. Jesus died about 2000 years ago, making it impossible to talk to him. God too

Jesus loves me. That's why He always brings tacos to Poker Night. :)
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 03:52
Jesus loves me. That's why He always brings tacos to Poker Night. :)

I hate playing poker with Jesus. He always knows when Im bluffing.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-03-2009, 03:54
I hate playing poker with Jesus. He always knows when Im bluffing.

True, but He can't eat the M&Ms. That's a plus. :)
DaWoad
05-03-2009, 03:57
I hate playing poker with Jesus. He always knows when Im bluffing.

you think jesus is bad you should try playing with Santa man. I mean at least with jesus I can deal from the bottom of the deck, count cards and generally cheat pretty effectively and unless his dad is sitting in he usually misses it but with Santa he knows when your being bad. Man its just bleedin impossible.
Anti-Social Darwinism
05-03-2009, 04:24
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

You have a problem with humor, don't you.
Anti-Social Darwinism
05-03-2009, 04:26
I hate playing poker with Jesus. He always knows when Im bluffing.

Besides, he changes water to wine and deuces to aces.
DaWoad
05-03-2009, 04:31
Besides, he changes water to wine and deuces to aces.

So not cool. I stopped dealing him twos after we played a hand where three players had four of a kind aces and the other hadda royal flush in hearts . . .it was just ridiculous, that ll teach me to play with Jesus, Harry Houdini, Wild Bill Hickok and Satan. (for the record Bill folded on aces and eights . . . he gets that hand ALOT)
Anti-Social Darwinism
05-03-2009, 04:33
So not cool. I stopped dealing him twos after we played a hand where three players had four of a kind aces and the other hadda royal flush in hearts . . .it was just ridiculous, that ll teach me to play with jesus, houdini, Wild Bill and satan. (for the record Bill folded on aces and eights . . . he gets that hand ALOT)

I think I'd rather shoot diced with JC, except half the time he throws them where no one can find them.
Chumblywumbly
05-03-2009, 04:41
I think I'd rather shoot diced with JC, except half the time he throws them where no one can find them.
So long as you don't invite him in (http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20031212h.gif) for a game of Mario Kart...
DaWoad
05-03-2009, 04:51
I think I'd rather shoot diced with JC, except half the time he throws them where no one can find them.

That and no matter what you play with him he always gets out of paying up by "dying"
New Genoa
05-03-2009, 05:25
So much for Soviet and Maoist politicians then...
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-03-2009, 18:46
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. -SNIP TEH SMILEY-

Oh Hydesland, thanks for teaching me this one!:fluffle:

Hurrrrr duuurrrrr!

:D
Knights of Liberty
05-03-2009, 19:34
Im sad Fario didnt come back.
Straughn
06-03-2009, 06:11
So, NSG...what is the political structure where you live, and do your leaders draw their authority from God?Uhm ... review Ryadn's sig.
*cough*
The Alma Mater
06-03-2009, 07:30
:eek::mad::eek::mad:
There is no god, so i dont se what u people are bitching about, if there really was a god he would of shown himself already. You only belive in him to keep your minds off all your troubbles. You belive if your good, you will somehow magically be transported to heven. When has the catolic church ever been right; or for that matter, any church, so who is god supporting. The answer is sadly no one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Fario - 30% of the worlds population identifies itself as "Christian". Over 50% states they adhere to one of the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, lslam). Of these people, a significant portion* can not comprehend what is stopping the nonbelievers from pillaging, rape, murder and so on - they after all have no God that could send them to hell.

Do you really want to convince people, people that need the threat of God looking over their shoulders to not perform vile acts, that there is no God ? Are you certain you want to unleash them ?

Nah. Keep the animals caged. Halleluja, praise the Lord !

* Note for the easily offended: not all. So don't take it personally, unless you should.
Ryadn
06-03-2009, 07:47
Uhm ... review Ryadn's sig.
*cough*

*startled* What? What'd I do?

*reads own sig*

...so who gets their leadership from God--Sarah Palin, or Jhahhanam? :D
The blessed Chris
06-03-2009, 10:35
Do you have something against me being a jocular fuckwit? I make a comfortable living as a jocular fuckwit.

I suppose I could note that the first is purported to be a quote from Jesus and the second was from a letter written by Paul(who never actually met Jesus except in a hallucination after he fell off his horse and bumped his head). I could further remark which one I consider more authoritative. But I think I'll just push you into mud instead.

*does so*

Given that Paul composed much of the New Testament himself, I sincerely doubt that what Jesus does correlates greatly to reality as much as it does to how Paul, in the aftermath of the AD70 revolt, sought to cast Christianity. That notwithstanding, scripture, to the Catholic, is scripture; it's legitimacy or power is not affected by whether Jesus, or a disciple, is claimed as its' origin.
Truly Blessed
06-03-2009, 15:47
This falls under the Sovereign Will of God. If he doesn't want you to be president then you won't. Dimpled chads, Florida in general. Leaders do not get their authority from God per say but they may get into office because of him.
Muravyets
06-03-2009, 16:08
This falls under the Sovereign Will of God. If he doesn't want you to be president then you won't. Dimpled chads, Florida in general. Leaders do not get their authority from God per say but they may get into office because of him.
You're joking, right? Or did you just forget to include the "According to my personal belief system, which has no basis in fact and is meaningful only to me and fellow believers..."?

Because what you are talking about here is magic. The kind of magic that excuses deliberate political corruption and similar crimes.
Rambhutan
06-03-2009, 16:09
This falls under the Sovereign Will of God. If he doesn't want you to be president then you won't. Dimpled chads, Florida in general. Leaders do not get their authority from God per say but they may get into office because of him.

So we can blame God for Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot - he really is an asshole?
Reprocycle
06-03-2009, 16:23
So we can blame God for Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot - he really is an asshole?

Sure you can but you can also believe that such events unfortunately had to happen as part of a greater plan
Gift-of-god
06-03-2009, 16:39
And cue the 'God cannot be omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and still allow evil and suffering' argument.
Lunatic Goofballs
06-03-2009, 16:45
Given that Paul composed much of the New Testament himself, I sincerely doubt that what Jesus does correlates greatly to reality as much as it does to how Paul, in the aftermath of the AD70 revolt, sought to cast Christianity. That notwithstanding, scripture, to the Catholic, is scripture; it's legitimacy or power is not affected by whether Jesus, or a disciple, is claimed as its' origin.

Fuck Paul. :)
Reprocycle
06-03-2009, 16:45
And cue the 'God cannot be omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and still allow evil and suffering' argument.

Meh before such things come up i'll just say that I won't take that line of discussion further. Don't want to threadjack or that