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Nuclear Relic Found In A Bottle

Kyronea
02-03-2009, 20:44
Which, incidentally, is the way I found my old socks once.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7918618.stm

US nuclear relic found in bottle
By Paul Rincon
Science reporter, BBC News website

A bottle discarded at a waste site in the US contains the oldest sample of bomb-grade plutonium made in a nuclear reactor, scientists say.

The sample dates to 1944 and is a relic from the infancy of the US nuclear weapons programme.

A team from the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory used nuclear forensic techniques to date the sample and track down its origins.

Details appear in the latest edition of the journal Analytical Chemistry.

The researchers have described their study as "nuclear archaeology". But any handling of the sample has to be done by trained personnel in protective suits - as it is still highly radioactive.

The type of plutonium in the bottle - known as Pu-239 - has a half-life (the time it takes for the radioactivity to fall by half) of 24,110 years.

The bottle in question was discovered in a burial trench at the Hanford nuclear site in Washington state, north-western US.

Established as part of the Manhattan Project in 1943, Hanford was home to the world's first full-scale plutonium production facility.

The Manhattan Project was the US' bid to build the world's first nuclear weapon during World War II. The project's roots lay in fears that Nazi Germany was investigating similar technology.

It culminated in the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan at the end of the war.

The sample produced at the Hanford site was used in Trinity - the world's first nuclear weapon test - on 16 July 1945 and in the plutonium bomb dropped on Nagasaki, Japan, on 10 August 1945.

To recover bomb-grade plutonium, spent nuclear fuel was transported from a reactor to a chemical re-processing plant.

Here, the small amount of plutonium produced in the reactor was separated from the remaining uranium and waste fission products.

The Hanford site is now the focus of a massive environmental cleanup effort due to high levels of radioactive waste that remain at the site.

Dug up

While excavating a burial trench in December 2004, clean-up personnel discovered a safe which contained a jug filled with whitish liquid slurry.

Further tests revealed the bottle contained a type of plutonium made by re-processing spent fuel in a manner consistent with early operations at Hanford.

Realising the historic potential of the find, Jon Schwantes and colleagues from the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory carried out further tests on the sample.

In order to determine its age, the researchers analysed the different forms, or isotopes, of plutonium and uranium in the sample. They found it had been separated from the spent fuel in 1944.

In order to determine which reactor had produced the sample, they compared plutonium isotope ratios from the contents of the bottle against technical data from nuclear research reactors that were operating at the time the sample was made.

Their results strongly suggested the plutonium was manufactured at the prototype X-10 reactor at Oak Ridge in Tennessee, which began operating in 1943, a year after the Manhattan Project was authorised.

The types of forensic techniques used in the study are also vital for determining the sources, origins and routes of smuggled radioactive materials.

"The frequency of smuggling events involving radioactive materials is supply driven and is on the rise worldwide," the researchers write in Analytical Chemistry.

They added: "It is likely that (given) the current nuclear renaissance and greater access to these materials by the public, smuggling events involving fissionable materials may rise in the near future."
This is vaguely fascinating. I don't really have much commentary on it though. I like the way the half-life is so long. Really makes the plutonium stick.
Call to power
02-03-2009, 20:48
wait so if your old socks and plutonium go into those bottles then what goes in Newcy Brown :confused:
Ring of Isengard
02-03-2009, 20:54
does it say how much was in the bottle? ( plutoniom not socks? how did your socks get in a bottle anyway?)
Call to power
02-03-2009, 20:57
does it say how much was in the bottle?

clearly it was half-empty ;)
Ring of Isengard
02-03-2009, 20:59
clearly it was half-empty ;)

:p You've got real talent you know
Gift-of-god
02-03-2009, 21:02
Makes you wonder how much weapons grade plutonium has been misplaced since then.
Conserative Morality
02-03-2009, 21:05
Makes you wonder how much weapons grade plutonium has been misplaced since then.

I didn't think about it that way. If we lost a bottle of plutonium in the early days of nuclear devolpment, when the project was of utmost importance, how much have we lost now?

...

I'm scared. Someone hold me.;)
Call to power
02-03-2009, 21:13
Makes you wonder how much weapons grade plutonium has been misplaced since then.

Homer Simpson must of thrown tons out his car over the years

when the project was of utmost importance, how much have we lost now?

these days we are far too busy selling it :cool:
Western Mercenary Unio
02-03-2009, 21:15
I didn't think about it that way. If we lost a bottle of plutonium in the early days of nuclear devolpment, when the project was of utmost importance, how much have we lost now?

...

I'm scared. Someone hold me.;)

Here, hold this fuel rod.

*Gives fuel rod*
Vetalia
02-03-2009, 21:31
Now that's a message in a bottle I wouldn't want to open.
Saint Clair Island
02-03-2009, 22:42
I wonder what would have happened if someone had mistaken it for a soda and drunk it.

Not about whether they'd gain superpowers (I mean, of course!), but about what plutonium tastes like.
Conserative Morality
02-03-2009, 23:38
I wonder what would have happened if someone had mistaken it for a soda and drunk it.

Not about whether they'd gain superpowers (I mean, of course!), but about what plutonium tastes like.

Death.
Saint Clair Island
02-03-2009, 23:42
Death.

that doesn't help much. what does death taste like?

I mean, obviously you'd die if you drank plutonium, but would it be a kind of metallic taste? Alkaline? Acidic? Sweet and sugary? Et cetera.
[NS]Cerean
02-03-2009, 23:49
The rumors are true, Bottle has a radioactive vag:eek:
Indecline
03-03-2009, 00:14
Makes you wonder how much weapons grade plutonium has been misplaced since then.

I just think of all the underguarded warehouses in former Block countries that contain nuclear weapons, nerve agents, etc..
Indecline
03-03-2009, 00:18
that doesn't help much. what does death taste like?

I mean, obviously you'd die if you drank plutonium, but would it be a kind of metallic taste? Alkaline? Acidic? Sweet and sugary? Et cetera.

My concept of it's taste might have been influenced by the description of the bottle's contents given in the article, but I would imagine it to taste sort of like metallic... milk. Just a sort of thick, yet ethereal flavour that had a hint of earthen metals as an aftertaste.
The TransPecos
03-03-2009, 02:06
Pu is an alpha emitter so it is only an ingestion or inhalation hazard. Your skin is a perfectly adequate shield for alpha. You obviously don't want to ingest Pu, or virtually any other metal for that matter. If ingested or inhaled, the body will eliminate it just as it would other metals. Pu does seek out bone, but even then there is only the increased risk of cancer.

Given the choice, an ounce of Pu or an ounce of potassium cyanide, which would choose? One is a certainty, the other is an increased risk...
Dododecapod
03-03-2009, 04:46
Pu is an alpha emitter so it is only an ingestion or inhalation hazard. Your skin is a perfectly adequate shield for alpha. You obviously don't want to ingest Pu, or virtually any other metal for that matter. If ingested or inhaled, the body will eliminate it just as it would other metals. Pu does seek out bone, but even then there is only the increased risk of cancer.

Given the choice, an ounce of Pu or an ounce of potassium cyanide, which would choose? One is a certainty, the other is an increased risk...

It actually wouldn't make a difference. An ounce of either is a death sentence, as Plutonium is quite poisonous as well as being radioactive.
Post Liminality
03-03-2009, 06:15
I just think of all the underguarded warehouses in former Block countries that contain nuclear weapons, nerve agents, etc..

Eh. I'd be more worried about the forgotten storehouses, dumpsites and labs scattered around. Dump sites turn up every now and then. Nothing like going hunting and coming back with face cancer.
Gauthier
03-03-2009, 06:35
I wonder what would have happened if someone had mistaken it for a soda and drunk it.

Not about whether they'd gain superpowers (I mean, of course!), but about what plutonium tastes like.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/3723/242806-nuka_cola_sallyvan_large.jpg