NationStates Jolt Archive


Marvelous Malia + Sweet Sasha

Behaved
25-02-2009, 15:52
yesterday, i found these dolls were retired a few weeks ago. do you think they were created to be the obama girls in doll form or do you think ty just liked the names? i agree with their mama, because ty made them black, they resemble the girls and came out together. cute dolls, though. just like their namesakes.:fluffle:
Cabra West
25-02-2009, 15:55
Can anybody explain to me why one of his girl's has a boy's name? That's been puzzling me since I first heard the names...
Behaved
25-02-2009, 16:03
Can anybody explain to me why one of his girl's has a boy's name? That's been puzzling me since I first heard the names...
which one has a boy's name? i think sasha is short for natasha, which she has been called already
Cabra West
25-02-2009, 16:05
which one has a boy's name? i think sasha is short for natasha, which she has been called already

It's a short for of Alexander (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander#Variants_and_diminutives)...
Ashmoria
25-02-2009, 16:05
Can anybody explain to me why one of his girl's has a boy's name? That's been puzzling me since I first heard the names...
"girls names" and "boys names" dont mean as much as they used to.
Pirated Corsairs
25-02-2009, 16:11
Can anybody explain to me why one of his girl's has a boy's name? That's been puzzling me since I first heard the names...

It's a short for of Alexander (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander#Variants_and_diminutives)...

Or for Alexandra. :wink:

But really, it depends on the part of the world. In some parts, it's predominantly given to males; in some parts, it's given mostly to females. The US is one of the places where it mostly goes to females (probably because of the -a ending).
Behaved
25-02-2009, 16:13
Can anybody explain to me why one of his girl's has a boy's name? That's been puzzling me since I first heard the names...
this post is a threadjacker. let's get back on track.
Ashmoria
25-02-2009, 16:28
this post is a threadjacker. let's get back on track.
ok

they were totally created to be "first children" dolls. that is why they were issued after mr obama was elected and why they agreed to take them off the market when the obamas didnt like the idea.
Behaved
25-02-2009, 16:40
ok

they were totally created to be "first children" dolls. that is why they were issued after mr obama was elected and why they agreed to take them off the market when the obamas didnt like the idea.
thanks for getting us all on topic again. i found out about them through the newspaper and their retirement online. why didn't ty ask the parents? that would've saved them a lot of grief? if someone was planning on making a doll of me or a family member, i'd want them to ask. do you think the girls know? if yes how do you think they feel?
Ashmoria
25-02-2009, 16:46
thanks for getting us all on topic again. i found out about them through the newspaper and their retirement online. why didn't ty ask the parents? that would've saved them a lot of grief? if someone was planning on making a doll of me or a family member, i'd want them to ask. do you think the girls know? if yes how do you think they feel?
i think they didnt ask because they didnt want it to be OFFICIAL which might have some legal/financial reprocussions.

i dont know about the girls. i expect that the obamas try to keep that kind of thing from them but its pretty hard when they go to school every day. at least its only dolls and not "your dad has destroyed america/got a blowjob in office" that the last girls had to deal with.

it must be pretty strange to go from privileged but ordinary girls to girls who live in the white house and have the jonas brothers come to play at their sleep over.
The One Eyed Weasel
25-02-2009, 17:03
So if his daughters dolls got pulled, what's the fate of the Obama action figure with lightsaber and shotgun accessories??? Maybe he signed a release on that one?
Katganistan
25-02-2009, 18:49
So if his daughters dolls got pulled, what's the fate of the Obama action figure with lightsaber and shotgun accessories??? Maybe he signed a release on that one?
He is a public figure, and therefore is subject to parody.
A couple of kids aren't.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-ty-talk-newfeb04,0,225673.story
http://ty.com/newhome?mediaSource=TYG

They just retired the names. They are now Marvelous Mariah and Sweet Sydney. Look on Ty.com and see if those faces on th bottom banner don't look awfully familiar.
Kyronea
25-02-2009, 21:46
It's a short for of Alexander (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander#Variants_and_diminutives)...

Uh, no, Alex is short for Alexander. Sasha isn't short for anything. Where'd you get that idea from?
Flammable Ice
25-02-2009, 21:51
yesterday, i found these dolls were retired a few weeks ago. do you think they were created to be the obama girls in doll form or do you think ty just liked the names? i agree with their mama, because ty made them black, they resemble the girls and came out together. cute dolls, though. just like their namesakes.:fluffle:

Probably a publicity stunt. They had to change the names, but the job was done.
Tmutarakhan
25-02-2009, 21:54
which one has a boy's name? i think sasha is short for natasha, which she has been called already
No, Natasha is "short" for Natalie (or Natalya in the Russian spelling); not "shorter" actually, but the -sha ending is a "diminutive" (term of endearment, especially for a child).
Ryadn
25-02-2009, 21:56
Uh, no, Alex is short for Alexander. Sasha isn't short for anything. Where'd you get that idea from?

Sasha is the Russian diminutive of Aleksandr/Aleksandra. Most Russian diminutives are gender neutral.
Katganistan
25-02-2009, 21:59
Sasha is the Russian diminutive of Aleksandr/Aleksandra. Most Russian diminutives are gender neutral.
http://www.momswhothink.com/baby-girl-names/baby-girl-names-s.html
Listed as boy's or girl's name.
No Names Left Damn It
25-02-2009, 22:10
Uh, no, Alex is short for Alexander. Sasha isn't short for anything. Where'd you get that idea from?

Sasha is short for Alexander in Slavic countries.
Kyronea
25-02-2009, 22:15
It's a short for of Alexander (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander#Variants_and_diminutives)...

Sasha is the Russian diminutive of Aleksandr/Aleksandra. Most Russian diminutives are gender neutral.

Oooh.

I was being English-centric. My apologies.
Behaved
26-02-2009, 17:11
He is a public figure, and therefore is subject to parody.
A couple of kids aren't.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-ty-talk-newfeb04,0,225673.story
http://ty.com/newhome?mediaSource=TYG

They just retired the names. They are now Marvelous Mariah and Sweet Sydney. Look on Ty.com and see if those faces on th bottom banner don't look awfully familiar.
they have marvelous madison and sweet sammi now. they are white girls with blue eyes. one has light brown hair, the other fair hair. one has braids, not sure about the other. saw mariah and sydney, though on the bottom banner, madison and sammi are in the store, though.
Smunkeeville
26-02-2009, 17:37
Can anybody explain to me why one of his girl's has a boy's name? That's been puzzling me since I first heard the names...
I have a "boy's" name. You got a problem with it?

Here in America where we have freedom and we can name our kids without some "ministry" having to approve it, we can break through sexism and name our girls whatever we want.
Ryadn
26-02-2009, 17:40
http://www.momswhothink.com/baby-girl-names/baby-girl-names-s.html
Listed as boy's or girl's name.

Yeah, that's... why I said it was gender neutral.
HC Eredivisie
26-02-2009, 19:19
I have a "boy's" name. You got a problem with it?

Here in America where we have freedom and we can name our kids without some "ministry" having to approve it, we can break through sexism and name our girls whatever we want.
Yes, you will be renamed as 'Theodora' to show you're a girl. Freedom is only for the white men.:p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
26-02-2009, 21:17
For some perverted reason I thought these dolls were of porn starts.:tongue:
Behaved
03-02-2010, 17:12
For some perverted reason I thought these dolls were of porn starts.:tongue:
I feel like a gravedig. I can't believe Nanatsu had a dirty mind about a couple of dolls. Or was that a joke?