NationStates Jolt Archive


They Seem Shocked...

Hotwife
24-02-2009, 20:08
I am amazed that people this stupid managed to be admitted to a college or university.

http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2009/02/23/raw-footage-from-the-last-moments-of-the-kimmel-occupation/

For the ones that are NYU students, they now face expulsion from the school.

I bet Mom and Dad are really pleased with the progress their young student has made, and are happy to have taken out that second mortgage to pay for their budding idiot's tuition, room, and board.

Classic comedy gold.
Dundee-Fienn
24-02-2009, 20:18
That was just painfully pathetic
Hydesland
24-02-2009, 20:27
Haha, how did I know they would all be using macbooks. Anyway, I don't even understand what's going on there, what are they protesting?
New Ziedrich
24-02-2009, 20:27
This is really, really stupid. Our narrator has an annoying voice, too.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:28
Ahahaha. Fuds.
Hotwife
24-02-2009, 20:29
Haha, how did I know they would all be using macbooks. Anyway, I don't even understand what's going on there, what are they protesting?

Gaza, tuition for Palestinians, yadda yadda.

They are also against "corporations". I seem to recall that Apple is a corporation...
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:30
They are also against "corporations". I seem to recall that Apple is a corporation...
Yeah but it isn't lead by an incredibly wealthy philanthropist, so it doesn't count or something.
Dundee-Fienn
24-02-2009, 20:32
This is really, really stupid. Our narrator has an annoying voice, too.

Yeah all that upward inflection
Wilgrove
24-02-2009, 20:32
"Don't use brutality, Please don't use brutality" Yea, let's try to boss around the people with guns and batons....yea....
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:33
"Don't use brutality, Please don't use brutality" Yea, let's try to boss around the people with guns and batons....yea....
Quite. Keine Gewalt! wasn't exactly a great success.
Hotwife
24-02-2009, 20:34
"you gotta be kidding me everyone is running away"
Gravlen
24-02-2009, 20:35
Haha, how did I know they would all be using macbooks. Anyway, I don't even understand what's going on there, what are they protesting?

The Demands

1.) Full legal and disciplinary amnesty for all parties involved in the occupation.

2.) Full compensation for all employees whose jobs were disrupted during the course of the occupation.

3.) Public release of NYU’s annual operating budget, including a full list of university expenditures, salaries for all employees compensated on a semester or annual basis, funds allocated for staff wages, contracts to non-university organizations for university construction and services, financial aid data for each college, and money allocated to each college, department, and administrative unit of the university. Furthermore, this should include a full disclosure of the amount and sources of the university’s funding.

4.) Disclosure of NYU’s endowment holdings, investment strategy, projected endowment growth, and persons, corporations and firms involved in the investment of the university’s endowment funds. Additionally, we demand an endowment oversight body of students, faculty and staff who exercise shareholder proxy voting power for the university’s investments.

5.) That the NYU Administration agrees to resume negotiations with GSOC/UAW Local 2110 – the union for NYU graduate assistants, teaching assistants, and research assistants. That NYU publicly affirm its commitment to respect all its workers, including student employees, by recognizing their right to form unions and to bargain collectively. That NYU publicly affirm that it will recognize workers’ unions through majority card verification.

6.) That NYU signs a contract guaranteeing fair labor practices for all NYU employees at home and abroad. This contract will extend to subcontracted workers, including bus drivers, food service employees and anyone involved in the construction, operation and maintenance at any of NYU’s non-U.S. sites.

7.) The establishment of a student elected Socially Responsible Finance Committee. This Committee will have full power to vote on proxies, draft shareholder resolutions, screen all university investments, establish new programs that encourage social and environmental responsibility and override all financial decisions the committee deems socially irresponsible, including investment decisions. The committee will be composed of two subcommittees: one to assess the operating budget and one to assess the endowment holdings. Each committee will be composed of ten students democratically elected from the graduate and under-graduate student bodies. All committee decisions will be made a strict majority vote, and will be upheld by the university. All members of the Socially Responsible Finance Committee will sit on the board of trustees, and will have equal voting rights. All Socially Responsible Finance Committee and Trustee meetings shall be open to the public, and their minutes made accessible electronically through NYU’s website. Elections will be held the second Tuesday of every March beginning March 10th 2009, and meetings will be held biweekly beginning the week of March 30th 2009.

8.) That the first two orders of business of the Socially Responsible Finance committee will be: a) An in depth investigation of all investments in war and genocide profiteers, as well as companies profiting from the occupation of Palestinian territories. b) A reassessment of the recently lifted of the ban on Coca Cola products.

9.)That annual scholarships be provided for thirteen Palestinian students, starting with the 2009/2010 academic year. These scholarships will include funding for books, housing, meals and travel expenses.

10.) That the university donate all excess supplies and materials in an effort to rebuild the University of Gaza.

11.) Tuition stabilization for all students, beginning with the class of 2012. All students will pay their initial tuition rate throughout the course of their education at New York University. Tuition rates for each successive year will not exceed the rate of inflation, nor shall they exceed one percent. The university shall meet 100% of government-calculated student financial need.

12.)That student groups have priority when reserving space in the buildings owned or leased by New York University, including, and especially, the Kimmel Center.

13.)That the general public have access to Bobst Library.

...I guess.
Hotwife
24-02-2009, 20:36
...I guess.

Looks like they're fucked now.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:36
"you gotta be kidding me everyone is running away"
I find the fact that they're trying to bargain with the people who have the ability to kick them out like they're the ones with power very quaint :D
Hotwife
24-02-2009, 20:37
I find the fact that they're trying to bargain with the people who have the ability to kick them out like they're the ones with power very quaint :D

"Come on, you took civics and government? .... oh, you never studied...."
Wilgrove
24-02-2009, 20:37
Quite. Keine Gewalt! wasn't exactly a great success.

Why do I get the feeling that most of the students are there as an excuse to skip classes?
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:38
"Come on, you took civics and government? .... oh, you never studied...."
Aye that combined some chancers calling the administration 'fucking scumbags' or 'dirty snakes' just makes the whole thing laughable.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:39
Why do I get the feeling that most of the students are there as an excuse to skip classes?
No, most of them probably did it so that it would look like they've done something noble with their lives instead of ambling through school and succeeding, and then going on to die with 2.4 children and their degree at the end of things feeling disappointed with themselves.
Hydesland
24-02-2009, 20:41
...I guess.

They expect to achieve all that with such puny protests! Oh dear, oh dear oh dear.
South Lorenya
24-02-2009, 20:42
Yeah but it isn't lead by an incredibly wealthy philanthropist, so it doesn't count or something.

True, true, steve jobs is only worth ~$5.4 billion.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:42
They expect to achieve all that with such puny protests! Oh dear, oh dear oh dear.
When one of your own terms is "don't kick us out :(" you know things are going to go Pete.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:43
True, true, steve jobs is only worth ~$5.4 billion.
Nothing compared to Gates, and his charity efforts are also weaker.
Hotwife
24-02-2009, 20:44
I guess "consensus" wasn't working...
Dinaverg
24-02-2009, 20:45
Someone threw a chick over the balcony?
Neo Art
24-02-2009, 20:46
I find the fact that they're trying to bargain with the people who have the ability to kick them out like they're the ones with power very quaint :D

The funny thing about universities is, they need new people each and every year. And a lot of their money comes from things like alumnus who donate.

Taking a heavy hand with the student body is rarely a smart idea for administrations. It hurts their reputation, damages future fundraising efforts, and generally gets them bad press.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:49
The funny thing about universities is, they need new people each and every year.
Aye and I'm sure people aren't going to stop coming because a bunch of tryhards occupied a couple of buildings and got rightly kicked out of uni.
And a lot of their money comes from things like alumnus who donate.
Uhu... I'm sure most of their alumni-to-be are going to be highly unimpressed at this very adolescent affair.
Dinaverg
24-02-2009, 20:51
'a) An in depth investigation of all investments in war and genocide profiteers, as well as companies profiting from the occupation of Palestinian territories. b) A reassessment of the recently lifted of the ban on Coca Cola products.'

Peace in the Middle East and a sugar fix?
Wilgrove
24-02-2009, 20:52
The funny thing about universities is, they need new people each and every year. And a lot of their money comes from things like alumnus who donate.

Taking a heavy hand with the student body is rarely a smart idea for administrations. It hurts their reputation, damages future fundraising efforts, and generally gets them bad press.

You give these people waaayy too much credit Art.
New Ziedrich
24-02-2009, 20:53
I loved how the narrator was crying brutality while security was still climbing over that sorry barricade. They hadn't even gotten to you yet, dumbass!
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:53
'a) An in depth investigation of all investments in war and genocide profiteers, as well as companies profiting from the occupation of Palestinian territories. b) A reassessment of the recently lifted of the ban on Coca Cola products.'

Peace in the Middle East and a sugar fix?
It's nice to know that American Universities' Students' Unions are equally as lame as those here in the UK. The NUS is a left-wing circlejerk here.
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-02-2009, 20:55
"You're on camera, excuse me, don't use force?"

Jeez. *Takes old codger stance.* We had peaceful protests in the sixties, these kids don't know how it's done. And all they had to do was look it up in Wiki. *sighs.* What's wrong with kids today?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement -
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 20:56
What's wrong with kids today?
Energy drinks and Ron Paul.
Knights of Liberty
24-02-2009, 20:57
The funny thing about universities is, they need new people each and every year. And a lot of their money comes from things like alumnus who donate.

Taking a heavy hand with the student body is rarely a smart idea for administrations. It hurts their reputation, damages future fundraising efforts, and generally gets them bad press.

Logic? In a DK thread? Unacceptable.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 21:02
Logic? In a DK thread? Unacceptable.
Yeah that's not really logic, though. I'm sure peoples' parents (those who really decide where their kid goes to uni and all) aren't going to be amazingly saddened by some bastards trying to kick up a fuss getting kicked out.
Knights of Liberty
24-02-2009, 21:04
(those who really decide where their kid goes to uni and all)

What an unfortunate assumption on your part. Just because your parents may have had the ultimate say does not mean its true for all of us.

aren't going to be amazingly saddened by some bastards trying to kick up a fuss getting kicked out.

Thats not what Neo was saying would cause bad press. Beating the snot out of them is what would cause bad press.

Keep up.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 21:07
What an unfortunate assumption on your part. Just because your parents may have had the ultimate say does not mean its true for all of us.
Right, so who pays for most 18 year-olds' education then?
Thats not what Neo was saying would cause bad press. Beating the snot out of them is what would cause bad press.

Keep up.
Uhu... and they didn't so it won't. Tada.
Knights of Liberty
24-02-2009, 21:09
Right, so who pays for most 18 year-olds' education then?


Some pay for themselves. Most parents who do pay, however, dont care where their kid goes as long as they can afford it and its not a piss poor school. Few parents say "Youre going here."

Uhu... and they didn't so it won't. Tada.

Yeah, and Neo was saying why they didnt, and if they had, why it would be a bad idea. Not your day for the whole reading thing, is it?
Sdaeriji
24-02-2009, 21:10
Right, so who pays for most 18 year-olds' education then?

I got private loans for every dime of my education. My parents did not pay one cent. Not all of us are lucky enough to have parents to pay for school for us.
Neesika
24-02-2009, 21:11
I got private loans for every dime of my education. My parents did not pay one cent. Not all of us are lucky enough to have parents to pay for school for us.Amen, brother! I'm not sure they should be letting poor people like us INTO schools though...we might dirty up the rich kids.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 21:12
Some pay for themselves. Most parents who do pay, however, dont care where their kid goes as long as they can afford it and its not a piss poor school. Few parents say "Youre going here."
Yeah I don't think that the kids are going to be all that fussed by some self-important lefties getting kicked out, and their parents are going to be much the same. NYU is pretty good and all. People aren't going to stop going.
Yeah, and Neo was saying why they didnt, and if they had, why it would be a bad idea.
Uhu...
Not your day for the whole reading thing, is it?
Oh you're so clever, KoL.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 21:13
I got private loans for every dime of my education. My parents did not pay one cent. Not all of us are lucky enough to have parents to pay for school for us.
And I got a student loan myself, too, but my parents are always willing to help out. I pay my own way, but most of my pals' parents pay for their accomadation at the very least.
Neo Art
24-02-2009, 21:13
Aye and I'm sure people aren't going to stop coming because a bunch of tryhards occupied a couple of buildings and got rightly kicked out of uni.

yeah, no administration has ever listened to a student strike before. Nope, never ever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_protests_of_1968).
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 21:15
yeah, no administration has ever listened to a student strike before.
Yeah that's not what I said, though -_-
Glorious Freedonia
24-02-2009, 21:16
I was unable to view the film in the link. Can I get a brief summary of the event that you are discussing? I read the posts and it sounds like some wierdos took over a school building because they think that businesses should not be structured in the corporate model because of Palestinians or something?

I am curious how sole proprietorships or partnerships would succeed in kicking the Palestinians out of Israel? Or is it that these people are Anti-Semitic or what? I am so confused.
Sdaeriji
24-02-2009, 21:16
And I got a student loan myself, too, but my parents are always willing to help out. I pay my own way, but most of my pals' parents pay for their accomadation at the very least.

Good for you. Mine did not. Your snide comment about who pays for an 18 year old's education is revealed for the worthless crap that it is. Full stop.
Dundee-Fienn
24-02-2009, 21:17
yeah, no administration has ever listened to a student strike before. Nope, never ever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_protests_of_1968).

I find it hard to compare this with your posted example
Hydesland
24-02-2009, 21:17
yeah, no administration has ever listened to a student strike before. Nope, never ever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_protests_of_1968).

The point is that this specific protest is embarrassingly, cringe-worthingly, whimsical. Not protests in general.
Sdaeriji
24-02-2009, 21:18
I was unable to view the film in the link. Can I get a brief summary of the event that you are discussing? I read the posts and it sounds like some wierdos took over a school building because they think that businesses should not be structured in the corporate model because of Palestinians or something?

I am curious how sole proprietorships or partnerships would succeed in kicking the Palestinians out of Israel? Or is it that these people are Anti-Semitic or what? I am so confused.

Honestly, I haven't been able to find a single report on this "incident" that wasn't some crappy blog. It seems that a bunch of kids took over a building on the NYU campus and then were forcefully removed by police, and are now being expelled, but I can't find a decent timeline for what actually occured.
Yootopia
24-02-2009, 21:20
I was unable to view the film in the link. Can I get a brief summary of the event that you are discussing? I read the posts and it sounds like some wierdos took over a school building because they think that businesses should not be structured in the corporate model because of Palestinians or something?

I am curious how sole proprietorships or partnerships would succeed in kicking the Palestinians out of Israel? Or is it that these people are Anti-Semitic or what? I am so confused.
Eh a bunch of students occupy some NYU buildings, when told to cease go on about CONCENSUS HERE! for a fucking age, some of them get lippy with security and after that every sort of stands about making points at each other. Some students got suspended as a result.
greed and death
24-02-2009, 21:34
Those are the stupidest fucks i have ever seen. the entire loot deserved to be Tazered. then have the snot beaten out of them with billy clubs then locked up in jail for a night.
Knights of Liberty
24-02-2009, 21:35
Those are the stupidest fucks i have ever seen. the entire loot deserved to be Tazered. then have the snot beaten out of them with billy clubs then locked up in jail for a night.

See Neo's post about why thats a stupid idea.

Just make sure you understand what hes talking about before you comment on it. I dont want a rerun from my last few posts.
greed and death
24-02-2009, 21:40
See Neo's post about why thats a stupid idea.

Just make sure you understand what hes talking about before you comment on it. I dont want a rerun from my last few posts.

yes because all those universities that had the police beat the snot out of hippies in the 60's lost alumni funding. If my university had this happen and they didn't take at least a somewhat more harsh measure then this I would stop giving them money. most of these people will grow an get jobs and realize the police beating the snot out of them when they were dumb was for their own good.
Neo Art
24-02-2009, 21:50
yes because all those universities that had the police beat the snot out of hippies in the 60's lost alumni funding.

*cough* Berkley
Wilgrove
24-02-2009, 21:52
There's also Kent State. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings)
greed and death
24-02-2009, 22:00
*cough* Berkley

your likely right. the response was in line. just annoying when stupid fucks keep the other 99% of the students who want to use the facilities to work on their degrees.
Andaluciae
24-02-2009, 22:30
There's also Kent State. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings)

Miserable f'ing James Rhodes calling out the Guard because he thought it would be politically popular. If nothing else, he didn't win that Senate primary, at least.
Andaluciae
24-02-2009, 22:33
*cough* Berkley

Berkeley, like most other schools, has taken a far more tactful approach to confronting protests--politely ignoring them for a long time, until they're forgotten, and then hauling them out.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/07/BAJH12PDUE.DTL
Chandelier
24-02-2009, 23:45
Right, so who pays for most 18 year-olds' education then?

Scholarships pay for mine (including housing and food), and give me a little left over...which, I have to pay taxes on that apparently...
Post Liminality
25-02-2009, 00:52
your likely right. the response was in line. just annoying when stupid fucks keep the other 99% of the students who want to use the facilities to work on their degrees.

Most universities tend to have many, many buildings with a range of facilities. Unless you're a grad student that's slacked on a deadline, it's pretty unlikely the occupation of two buildings is a legitimate excuse to not get your shit done.

Though, I tend to have my study spots that I really like and help me focus. If there was a protest going on, I'd probably just see if I could sit in a corner with my headphones on and get my shit done.
Chumblywumbly
25-02-2009, 01:22
Looks like they're fucked now.
I believe it's part of a larger protest movement organised, at least in the UK, by the Stop The War Coalition (read: SWP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(Britain))).

Last time I checked, around twenty-five universities in the UK had been partially occupied, with mixed success.
Davorka
25-02-2009, 01:44
The funny thing about universities is, they need new people each and every year. And a lot of their money comes from things like alumnus who donate.

Taking a heavy hand with the student body is rarely a smart idea for administrations. It hurts their reputation, damages future fundraising efforts, and generally gets them bad press.

True, although I didn't get the impression that the administration was really rough with the protesters. I think they were in the building for more than a day and an NYU newspaper gave the impression that students had multiple opportunities to leave.

Found this timeline on the student newspaper's website:
http://www.nyunews.com/news/university/kimmel_a_timeline-1.1488287
Agolthia
25-02-2009, 01:46
I believe it's part of a larger protest movement organised, at least in the UK, by the Stop The War Coalition (read: SWP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(Britain))).

Last time I checked, around twenty-five universities in the UK had been partially occupied, with mixed success.

I think St Andrews got occupied. It was fairly low-key though. Couple of students outside some of the buildings. i didn't really notice it to be honest. I doubt that St Andrews is one of the most left-wing unis in the UK so that proabably explains the lack of support.
Querinos
25-02-2009, 01:59
I find the fact that they're trying to bargain with the people who have the ability to kick them out like they're the ones with power very quaint :D

I seem to remeber something about colonials and red coats; not that I'm equating this protest to the other.
Hotwife
25-02-2009, 21:43
True, although I didn't get the impression that the administration was really rough with the protesters. I think they were in the building for more than a day and an NYU newspaper gave the impression that students had multiple opportunities to leave.

Found this timeline on the student newspaper's website:
http://www.nyunews.com/news/university/kimmel_a_timeline-1.1488287

Thanks for the timeline - I'm sure KoL will find it useful as well.

As to Neo A's assertion that a heavy-handed administration is bad - having a bunch of idiotic and obviously ignorant students doing this sort of thing will prevent parents from financing their own child's trip to NYU - unless they see the administration nipping it in the bud.
Glorious Freedonia
25-02-2009, 22:23
Eh a bunch of students occupy some NYU buildings, when told to cease go on about CONCENSUS HERE! for a fucking age, some of them get lippy with security and after that every sort of stands about making points at each other. Some students got suspended as a result.

What is consensus here!? I tried looking it up on google to no avail.
Sdaeriji
25-02-2009, 22:34
What is consensus here!? I tried looking it up on google to no avail.

Best I can gather, it seemed like some sort of anti-Israeli, anti-corporate something or another.

Ever see the movie PCU? These guys strike me as the cause-heads.
Glorious Freedonia
25-02-2009, 23:07
Best I can gather, it seemed like some sort of anti-Israeli, anti-corporate something or another.

Ever see the movie PCU? These guys strike me as the cause-heads.

I never saw PCU. The title sounds a little subversive but it seems to be like Animal House. I will probably get punished by the mods for saying it but I am afraid of people who are anti-israel because that is the equivalent of being anti-semitic in my book. People that are anti-corporations make no sense to me either.
Trans Fatty Acids
26-02-2009, 00:14
Yeah I don't think that the kids are going to be all that fussed by some self-important lefties getting kicked out, and their parents are going to be much the same. NYU is pretty good and all. People aren't going to stop going.

As to Neo A's assertion that a heavy-handed administration is bad - having a bunch of idiotic and obviously ignorant students doing this sort of thing will prevent parents from financing their own child's trip to NYU - unless they see the administration nipping it in the bud.

Uh, guys? What university exactly are you talking about? NYU is neither particularly good nor the kind of place where parents send their children to be sheltered from chaos. NYU is proud to be the educational choice of Peaches Geldof and the Olsen twins, for crying out loud. The parents who send their kids there are overprivileged bobos. They'll probably consider this whole kerfuffle as a teachable moment.
Vetalia
26-02-2009, 00:24
Thank God they're using made-in-China Apple products instead of some evil corporate oppressor's products. I wouldn't want them to be hypocritical, smug assholes or anything like that...sure, Chinese workers only end up getting about $4 of the entire manufacturing cost of the Ipod, let alone other products, but that's excusable because they're not MICRO$OFT or INTERNATIONAL EXPLOITATION MACHINES.
Hydesland
26-02-2009, 00:36
Thank God they're using made-in-China Apple products instead of some evil corporate oppressor's products. I wouldn't want them to be hypocritical, smug assholes or anything like that...sure, Chinese workers only end up getting about $4 of the entire manufacturing cost of the Ipod, let alone other products, but that's excusable because they're not MICRO$OFT or INTERNATIONAL EXPLOITATION MACHINES.

Lay off the corporate water V, don't you know the corporations put drugs in there to make you believe stuff like that about apple? It's all a lie.
Vetalia
26-02-2009, 00:41
Lay off the corporate water V, don't you know the corporations put drugs in there to make you believe stuff like that about apple? It's all a lie.

I'm just trying to tell THE TRUTH. If you sheeple want to remain part of the anti-corporate protest grid establishment, go ahead.
Just don't come crying to the Sandman (my pseudonym) when the anti-corporate lackeys start protesting in your community.
Hydesland
26-02-2009, 00:46
cool story bro
greed and death
26-02-2009, 00:50
Thanks for the timeline - I'm sure KoL will find it useful as well.

As to Neo A's assertion that a heavy-handed administration is bad - having a bunch of idiotic and obviously ignorant students doing this sort of thing will prevent parents from financing their own child's trip to NYU - unless they see the administration nipping it in the bud.

They disrupted meal service ??? If they had delayed me one minute from my sushi they would have needed the security to protect themselves from me.
Liuzzo
26-02-2009, 01:17
I am amazed that people this stupid managed to be admitted to a college or university.

http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2009/02/23/raw-footage-from-the-last-moments-of-the-kimmel-occupation/

For the ones that are NYU students, they now face expulsion from the school.

I bet Mom and Dad are really pleased with the progress their young student has made, and are happy to have taken out that second mortgage to pay for their budding idiot's tuition, room, and board.

Classic comedy gold.

It makes me wish they used "instruments of force" against them. These little b+tches need a reality check.
Theocratic Wisdom
26-02-2009, 05:52
some of the "demands" seem kind of reasonable... and then they go WAY off base, asking for things that students have no right asking... should have stuck to "students get priority when leasing the Kimmel Center." That seems kind of reasonable...
Nodinia
26-02-2009, 14:20
Amen, brother! I'm not sure they should be letting poor people like us INTO schools though...we might dirty up the rich kids.

Worst idea since letting in women.....
Der Teutoniker
26-02-2009, 14:58
I guess "consensus" wasn't working...

Well, if you recall, according to the narrator, the corporate thugs wouldn't let them consense with four of their buddies.

Yep, no consensing for them.
Der Teutoniker
26-02-2009, 15:21
In addition to being comprised solely of dimwits, I noticed that the protesters had no actual cohesion, or real planning.

Whether or not to disclose their identity seems like something that should have been consensed prior to the hostile takeover of University property. What's more is that the cameraman clearly styles himself some sort of swashbuckling revolutionary hero, and leader, and yet as he calls for all these consensus' no one pays him any mind, "We have ten minutes to decide!" but... it took him three, four minutes to assemble his dozen lackeys. I understand that he was attempting to be 'democratic' and 'civil' but the poor planning, complete leaderlessness, and almost total lack of a valid cause really make it a hilarious attempt at righteous action.
Vetalia
26-02-2009, 15:23
cool story bro

ffffffffuuuuuuuuu
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
26-02-2009, 15:47
In addition to being comprised solely of dimwits, I noticed that the protesters had no actual cohesion, or real planning.

Whether or not to disclose their identity seems like something that should have been consensed prior to the hostile takeover of University property. What's more is that the cameraman clearly styles himself some sort of swashbuckling revolutionary hero, and leader, and yet as he calls for all these consensus' no one pays him any mind, "We have ten minutes to decide!" but... it took him three, four minutes to assemble his dozen lackeys. I understand that he was attempting to be 'democratic' and 'civil' but the poor planning, complete leaderlessness, and almost total lack of a valid cause really make it a hilarious attempt at righteous action.
This is what happens when you try to lead an organization without constantly waving a handgun in the air and screaming, "I DEMAND THAT MY DEMANDS BE MET! I DEMAND IT!"
In any siege situation, it is the responsibility of the ineffective, underdog leader to insure that the appropriate levels of violence and terror are maintained. This little punk doesn't even seem to have a basic understanding of the dynamics of psychosis.
Not that I'm letting the other students off the hook. If just one of them had thought to trade in his mac book for a sack full of hand grenades, that situation would have never happened.
Hotwife
26-02-2009, 15:50
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Hotwife
27-02-2009, 00:28
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Idiocy is running rampant on our campuses.

The event closed with one arrest when Mike Tracey, vice president of the College Democrats and junior political science major, approached Coulter while she was signing books.

but... but...

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2009/02/tcnj_student_wont_file_suit.html

Apparently he won't file a lawsuit. I guess he was told he had no grounds.

Additionally, he won't be protesting or doing anything public anymore. I wonder if his parents had a little chat with the dirtbag.
Free Soviets
27-02-2009, 00:42
For the ones that are NYU students, they now face expulsion from the school.

though already 170 faculty members have called for them to be reinstated
Hotwife
27-02-2009, 00:44
though already 170 faculty members have called for them to be reinstated

If I were a prof there, I would be happy that a group of students so obviously uneducated and intellectually impaired had been expelled.
Free Soviets
27-02-2009, 00:50
If I were a prof there, I would be happy that a group of students so obviously uneducated and intellectually impaired had been expelled.

also, you would have a pony
Hotwife
27-02-2009, 00:52
also, you would have a pony

No, a PonyGirl... :)
Hotwife
27-02-2009, 00:59
Would you rather that your son was an incompetent leftist protester who was nationally pwned on the Internet, or would you rather that he just went to Florida State and actually had some fun...

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk9/rob-roy42/c039dc83e8bk4.jpg
Rotovia-
27-02-2009, 00:59
The administration actually seem quiet reasonable about the whole thing, probably because they were involved in serious protest in their day. I think the biggest problem they are having is trying to speak to a group of people who think using a lot of words they've read on wiki makes an argument.

Also, elect better negotiators next time
Hotwife
27-02-2009, 01:04
The administration actually seem quiet reasonable about the whole thing, probably because they were involved in serious protest in their day. I think the biggest problem they are having is trying to speak to a group of people who think using a lot of words they've read on wiki makes an argument.

Also, elect better negotiators next time

I think their patience (the administration) ran out when they realized the protesters were, to the last person, completely and utterly stupid.