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Sociology and You

Neo-Order
23-02-2009, 01:08
Sociology: The study of human social behavior, especially the study of the origins, organization, institutions, and development of human society.

(The definition is there so you people who are so very deprived don't go apeshit over not know what it means.)

Why do you find it so interesting?

Being a broad topic, I'll narrow my view down to a smaller scope. I love this wonderful place composed of so many topics and threads of all shapes sizes and various degrees of importance.

I imagine each thread as a seperate room full of many individuals who believe they should argue a point. I find much knowledge in observing these internet based debates. Knowledge of how our society works at our spacific level.

What sort of things do you gather?... If indeed you bother to notice and learn.
Neo Art
23-02-2009, 01:10
Sociology: The study of human social behavior, especially the study of the origins, organization, institutions, and development of human society.

(The definition is there so you people who are so very deprived don't go apeshit over not know what it means.)

Why do you find it so interesting?

Being a broad topic, I'll narrow my view down to a smaller scope. I love this wonderful place composed of so many topics and threads of all shapes sizes and various degrees of importance.

I imagine each thread as a seperate room full of many individuals who believe they should argue a point. I find much knowledge in observing these internet based debates. Knowledge of how our society works at our spacific level.

What sort of things do you gather?... If indeed you bother to notice and learn.

How's it feel knowing that you made a thread on sociology for us "very deprived" individuals, without knowing what the term "socioeconomic" means, a basic principle of sociology?
Veblenia
23-02-2009, 01:17
What sort of things do you gather?... If indeed you bother to notice and learn.

Oh, bottlecaps, cigarette butts, things I find on the ground, mostly.

And tasty, tasty mushrooms....*drool*
Ryadn
23-02-2009, 01:18
How's it feel knowing that you made a thread on sociology for us "very deprived" individuals, without knowing what the term "socioeconomic" means, a basic principle of sociology?

It feels like burning. *nods*

I wish I'd heard about sociology in at least one of my five anthropology classes at a well-regarded University of California. I am so deprived of knowledge. :(
Neo-Order
23-02-2009, 01:18
Like that had any point to it. Are you so insecure that you have to target one unrelevent thing after another?



Sociology is my most favorite subject to study. I really just want to know others oppinions on the matter and hear what they have to say and see what they have to show for as far as their own little observations go.

Do you have anything to say regarding why or why not the forums would be a good place to study an internet based society? And do you have any spacific thoughts on what you find most common?

Thats all I'd really like to discuss...

haha
Anti-Social Darwinism
23-02-2009, 01:19
Sociology: The study of human social behavior, especially the study of the origins, organization, institutions, and development of human society.

(The definition is there so you people who are so very deprived don't go apeshit over not know what it means.)

Why do you find it so interesting?

Being a broad topic, I'll narrow my view down to a smaller scope. I love this wonderful place composed of so many topics and threads of all shapes sizes and various degrees of importance.

I imagine each thread as a seperate room full of many individuals who believe they should argue a point. I find much knowledge in observing these internet based debates. Knowledge of how our society works at our spacific level.

What sort of things do you gather?... If indeed you bother to notice and learn.

I don't find Sociology, general, interesting. There are aspects of it that may be passingly intriguing.

Mostly I gather moss. Occasionally, I pick up pennies, nickels, dimes...
Ryadn
23-02-2009, 01:19
Like that had any point to it. Are you so insecure that you have to target one unrelevent thing after another?



Sociology is my most favorite subject to study. I really just want to know others oppinions on the matter and hear what they have to say and see what they have to show for as far as their own little observations go.

Do you have anything to say regarding why or why not the forums would be a good place to study an internet based society? And do you have any spacific thoughts on what you find most common?

Thats all I'd really like to discuss...

haha

Neo A is just jealous because there's a new Neo with worse spelling and grammar than his.
Neo Art
23-02-2009, 01:19
Like that had any point to it.

An understanding of socioeconomy theory has nothing to do with sociology? If you believe that then:

Sociology is my most favorite subject to study.

I'd hate to see how you do in subjects you don't like
Neo Art
23-02-2009, 01:20
Neo A is just jealous because there's a new Neo with worse spelling and grammar than his.

alright, that's it. 10 minutes in the pain box with you.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-02-2009, 01:20
Oh, bottlecaps, cigarette butts, things I find on the ground, mostly.

And tasty, tasty mushrooms....*drool*
I collect gloves. Around this time of year I can find 10-20 of them in about an hour's walk.
Then I take the gloves home and smell them. Sometimes I cut them open and lick the interiors.
Trostia
23-02-2009, 01:21
I disliked sociology. Social psychology was more interesting. Psychology most interesting. Similarly, I like people, the fewer there are of them.
Ryadn
23-02-2009, 01:24
alright, that's it. 10 minutes in the pain box with you.

Isn't that 10 minutes in the pain box for you, not with?

Wait, who am I talking to.
Neo-Order
23-02-2009, 01:28
Neo A is just jealous because there's a new Neo with worse spelling and grammar than his.

Okay.. that will bring up a rather popular trend that i've seen lately... Speach conveys idea. Thats all anything is. As you read words found in a book, what you are doing is forming the ideas that each word means. What happens if you don't know what a word means? Well you do what ever english teach tells you to do... "context clues". People get so pissed off because if someone makes a statement that is not said properly, or they don't spell a word correctly, that they will actually base their entire comment on the fact.

I find that to be hilarious. Since, if you are smart enough to point out those mistakes, I'm almost positive that you are also smart enough to actually understand the idea enough to continue with the debate, instead of halting everything to just show that you can put words together in cute, proper sentences.
Veblenia
23-02-2009, 01:28
Then I take the gloves home and smell them. Sometimes I cut them open and lick the interiors.

Don't they scream when you cut them? Mine always scream; I have to knock them unconscious with a hammer.
Dumb Ideologies
23-02-2009, 01:30
I liked sociology at school. Stopped liking it because our sociology teacher at A-level was a homophobic twat who when provided with perfectly well-founded and winning replies to his misogynistic feminist-hating bullshit resorted to petty name calling, insinuating at every opportunity that I was gay and making fun of me for "looking like a girl". Which didn't bother me, because thats kinda what I was trying to do within uniform limits, but you don't really expect your teachers to resort to concerted ad hominem attacks, and considering I was top of the class, it'd have been nice for him not to have provided ammunition for my dedicated crew of haters.

Still interested in the subject though, so any time there's a history module that has a sociological kinda focus I've gone for that, and I'm going to do a masters in social research.
Gauntleted Fist
23-02-2009, 01:31
I totally read this topic as "Scientology and You", and I was, like, "WTF, Scientology?"

Man, it was funny. :D
Post Liminality
23-02-2009, 01:46
I find that to be hilarious. Since, if you are smart enough to point out those mistakes, I'm almost positive that you are also smart enough to actually understand the idea enough to continue with the debate, instead of halting everything to just show that you can put words together in cute, proper sentences.

You are on a debate forum, engaging in debate (or discussion). Proper use of words and correct grammar are important, they lend credibility to your position and force behind your rhetoric.

It comes down to a simple standard for me: if you are not intelligent enough to properly put forward your ideas, why am I to believe that you are intelligent enough to put forward ideas that have merit? Note that this is in regards to people who speak English as a native language and don't have some kind of handicap like dyslexia; also, I'm not talking about small typos, I'm talking about posts that show an absolute disregard for the language, in general.
Dakini
23-02-2009, 01:53
I've never taken sociology, but I talked to a guy doing his PhD in it at the bar and mentioned this study I read about and pointed out how I thought it was poorly done. Apparently I'd make a good sociologist.

That being said: I'm not deprived for not taking it.
Knights of Liberty
23-02-2009, 01:58
Sociology is my most favorite subject to study.

Which is why you have no idea what socioeconomic, a core part of sociology, is, right?

Or have they not gotten to socioeconomics yet in your high school sociology class?
Trostia
23-02-2009, 02:02
Social psychology is a social situation for potential sociopaths to socialize with society in.
German Nightmare
23-02-2009, 02:53
Why do you find it so interesting?
I don't!
Ryadn
23-02-2009, 04:22
Okay.. that will bring up a rather popular trend that i've seen lately... Speach conveys idea. Thats all anything is. As you read words found in a book, what you are doing is forming the ideas that each word means. What happens if you don't know what a word means? Well you do what ever english teach tells you to do... "context clues". People get so pissed off because if someone makes a statement that is not said properly, or they don't spell a word correctly, that they will actually base their entire comment on the fact.

I find that to be hilarious. Since, if you are smart enough to point out those mistakes, I'm almost positive that you are also smart enough to actually understand the idea enough to continue with the debate, instead of halting everything to just show that you can put words together in cute, proper sentences.

You are on a debate forum, engaging in debate (or discussion). Proper use of words and correct grammar are important, they lend credibility to your position and force behind your rhetoric.

It comes down to a simple standard for me: if you are not intelligent enough to properly put forward your ideas, why am I to believe that you are intelligent enough to put forward ideas that have merit? Note that this is in regards to people who speak English as a native language and don't have some kind of handicap like dyslexia; also, I'm not talking about small typos, I'm talking about posts that show an absolute disregard for the language, in general.

/\ This /\

If you can't make your argument cogent and accessible, I am, as a rule, much less likely to consider your points and opinions seriously. If you just can't be bothered to use proper grammar to make a point--even attempt to use it--I can't be too bothered to muddle my way through what you've written.
VirginiaCooper
23-02-2009, 05:44
I am a social constructionist. So sociology fits.
Poliwanacraca
23-02-2009, 07:22
Neo A is just jealous because there's a new Neo with worse spelling and grammar than his.

You win. :D
Hammurab
23-02-2009, 07:33
You win. :D

Oh, christ with a dead hooker in his drunk, does that win!
Risottia
23-02-2009, 10:49
Sociology: The study of human social behavior, especially the study of the origins, organization, institutions, and development of human society.
Why do you find it so interesting?

Because I'm a positivist.
Eofaerwic
23-02-2009, 11:16
Do you have anything to say regarding why or why not the forums would be a good place to study an internet based society? And do you have any spacific thoughts on what you find most common?


An internet society maybe. It's debatable how representative a sample it is of internet societies generally or how the process of social interaction via the internet is conducted. Being a very specific debating forum, based of a somewhat specialised internet game it thus attracts a very specific type of person which is unlikley to similar to the interaction and etiquette of a more widely frequented internet based forum.

May I suggest a better place for perusal may be: http://www.4chan.org/. I'm sure you could get a very interesting sociological study going there.


I disliked sociology. Social psychology was more interesting. Psychology most interesting. Similarly, I like people, the fewer there are of them.

Well following the usual order of science preference - all Sociology is Psychology. But then all Psychology is Biology, all Biology is Chemistry, all Chemistry is Physics, all Physics is Maths...

Damn, I've been doing a PhD in Maths all this time and not realised it :eek:

Well done Sociology can complement Social Psychology very strongly as it describes the process surrounding social systems and organisations, whilst the latter deals with the individuals and how they interact with and within these systems. Unfortunately a lot of Sociology is very poorly done.
Heinleinites
23-02-2009, 11:30
I imagine each thread as a seperate room full of many individuals who believe they should argue a point. I find much knowledge in observing these internet based debates. Knowledge of how our society works at our spacific level. What sort of things do you gather?... If indeed you bother to notice and learn.

I wouldn't put too much stock in developing sociological principles from watching people bitch about politics, music, and movies on the Internet. Then again, the way our society is trending, maybe that's exactly where you should draw your sociological principles...

You know who doesn't gather things? Keith Richards. The man gathers no moss whatsoever.
Post Liminality
23-02-2009, 14:50
An internet society maybe. It's debatable how representative a sample it is of internet societies generally or how the process of social interaction via the internet is conducted. Being a very specific debating forum, based of a somewhat specialised internet game it thus attracts a very specific type of person which is unlikley to similar to the interaction and etiquette of a more widely frequented internet based forum.

May I suggest a better place for perusal may be: http://www.4chan.org/. I'm sure you could get a very interesting sociological study going there.




Well following the usual order of science preference - all Sociology is Psychology. But then all Psychology is Biology, all Biology is Chemistry, all Chemistry is Physics, all Physics is Maths...

Damn, I've been doing a PhD in Maths all this time and not realised it :eek:

Well done Sociology can complement Social Psychology very strongly as it describes the process surrounding social systems and organisations, whilst the latter deals with the individuals and how they interact with and within these systems. Unfortunately a lot of Sociology is very poorly done.
Hrmm...there's something to be said about internet forums and such being the height of self-selection. There's a symmetry of access for anyone who can access an internet capable computer. I don't know what, exactly, it is that is to be said, though, other than point it out. =p
I wouldn't put too much stock in developing sociological principles from watching people bitch about politics, music, and movies on the Internet. Then again, the way our society is trending, maybe that's exactly where you should draw your sociological principles...

You know who doesn't gather things? Keith Richards. The man gathers no moss whatsoever.

Eh? By and large that is an apt description of society in general: people bitching. People bitching money, about rights, about values, about the world. Some bitching is more relevant than other bitching, but bitching it tends to be, nonetheless.
Neo-Order
23-02-2009, 23:34
Hrmm...there's something to be said about internet forums and such being the height of self-selection. There's a symmetry of access for anyone who can access an internet capable computer. I don't know what, exactly, it is that is to be said, though, other than point it out. =p


Eh? By and large that is an apt description of society in general: people bitching. People bitching money, about rights, about values, about the world. Some bitching is more relevant than other bitching, but bitching it tends to be, nonetheless.

That is very well what anyone ever wishes to talk about in 3 out of the four corners of the world. Anything that will piss the random person here or there will use whatever that thing was that pissed 'em off as a subject for the following three days...

But that little observation can't get any more obvious than the fact of grass being the color of green.