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I can see getting married once, twice, even three times, but 23 times!?!

I can't imagine being that lonely.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Indiana-Woman-Said-I-Do-23-Times.html?yhp=1

Dont they have, you know, Dating for that? :confused:

I wonder if any of her husbands knew she'd been married so many times. I'm guessing they did, but it'd be funny to find out after the fact that you were number 23.

This woman is the reason why our divorce rate is so high. *nods*

This woman is the reason why our divorce rate is so high. *nods*

I would think that she'd be the exception, rather than the rule.

It should be illegal to marry that many times. :eek:

Maybe she really likes wedding cake. :p

Maybe she really likes wedding cake. :p

She must be a diabetic already.:tongue:

I can see getting married once, twice, even three times, but 23 times!?!

I can't imagine being that lonely.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Indiana-Woman-Said-I-Do-23-Times.html?yhp=1
i cant imagine finding that many men that id want to marry.

....why? Seriously, why the hell would anyone do that? I hated all the pointlessness of the marriage ceremony the first time. To go through it 23 would... I can't imagine.

It should be illegal to marry that many times. :eek:

How could you make it illegal??

Although i agree 23 times is raaaaaaaaather excessive :p


PLUS how much money has she spent on weddings!? some people struggle to pay for one wedding let alone 23!!

And heres another question....would you wear the same wedding dress each time or would you want a new one each time?

How could you make it illegal??

Although i agree 23 times is raaaaaaaaather excessive :p

I don't know, but where there's a will, there's a way.
:D

Maybe she should marry a tree -- then they'll live happily ever after for the rest of her life. :p

I bet her parents hate her.

i cant imagine finding that many men that id want to marry.

well nor can she really can she? :p

Maybe she should marry a tree -- then they'll live happily ever after for the rest of her life. :p

I have a very dirty mind.

whats the difference between an Indiana woman and a bucket of poo? the poo

Do you think hubbie number 22 had just a [I]little[I] niggling doubt at the back of his mind that this marriage wasn't going to last..!

"One husband beat her. More than one deserted her."

I like how that's just tacked on at the end. LOL HOW FUNNY!!

Also, her first marriage "when she was just 16 and he was 31."

So we have a girl who started getting married before she was legally old enough to drink the champagne at her own wedding, and who has continued marrying over and over throughout her life.

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with a culture that tells women their entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring. I'm sure the fact that she was first married to a man twice her age is totally not relevant. I'm sure the fact that she's been abused and abandoned in the past has nothing to do with her behavior.

Yup. For sure. Nothing to see here.

What's a succubus to do?

"One husband beat her. More than one deserted her."

I like how that's just tacked on at the end. LOL HOW FUNNY!!

Also, her first marriage "when she was just 16 and he was 31."

So we have a girl who started getting married before she was legally old enough to drink the champagne at her own wedding, and who has continued marrying over and over throughout her life.

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with a culture that tells women their entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring. I'm sure the fact that she was first married to a man twice her age is totally not relevant. I'm sure the fact that she's been abused and abandoned in the past has nothing to do with her behavior.

Yup. For sure. Nothing to see here.

So it's completely society's fault then?

So it's completely society's fault then?

No, but society's culture at the time may have influenced this particular woman's way of thinking and processing her self-worth to the point where she views herself as worthy so long as she is married, because without that ring, she isn't as worthy. It could have been the environment she was raised in; the types of pressures she was surrounded by. Some people don't have strong wills, and it's possible that this woman doesn't have a strong will to ignore influence and peer pressure.

No, but society's culture at the time may have influenced this particular woman's way of thinking and processing her self-worth to the point where she views herself as worthy so long as she is married, because without that ring, she isn't as worthy. It could have been the environment she was raised in; the types of pressures she was surrounded by. Some people don't have strong wills, and it's possible that this woman doesn't have a strong will to ignore influence and peer pressure.

So what cultural aspect of American life influenced a certain woman to spend her life living with a chimpanzee, bathing with him, drinking wine with him, and sleeping with him, until it ripped her friend's face off?

Talk about a weird sense of self-worth...

No, but society's culture at the time may have influenced this particular woman's way of thinking and processing her self-worth to the point where she views herself as worthy so long as she is married, because without that ring, she isn't as worthy. It could have been the environment she was raised in; the types of pressures she was surrounded by. Some people don't have strong wills, and it's possible that this woman doesn't have a strong will to ignore influence and peer pressure.

Ah. So in other words, a perfect storm of influences combined with perhaps a weak and impressionable mindset from a young age has tragically really resulted in her becoming nuttier than an oak tree in regards to marriage?

Couldn't some kind of therapy help fix this self-image issue? Granted, it's been so long that it would take a long time to fix but after 23 marriages I think I'd suspect that I may need some help.

"One husband beat her. More than one deserted her."

I like how that's just tacked on at the end. LOL HOW FUNNY!!

Also, her first marriage "when she was just 16 and he was 31."

So we have a girl who started getting married before she was legally old enough to drink the champagne at her own wedding, and who has continued marrying over and over throughout her life.

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with a culture that tells women their entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring.

:rolleyes:

Yes, their's sexism in the world, but let's not exaggerate. It is not the accepted view of the majority of society that a woman's "entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring."

That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this woman was from a religion that forbade sex outside of marriage.

What's a succubus to do?

Judging by my pics, usually each other. :)

So what cultural aspect of American life influenced a certain woman to spend her life living with a chimpanzee, bathing with him, drinking wine with him, and sleeping with him, until it ripped her friend's face off?

Talk about a weird sense of self-worth...

Humans are a strange bunch. We tend to have some views in common; other views that go against what may be considered normal.

Some people do have a strange sense of self-worth. There is no disputing that.

Ah. So in other words, a perfect storm of influences combined with perhaps a weak and impressionable mindset from a young age has tragically really resulted in her becoming nuttier than an oak tree in regards to marriage?

Couldn't some kind of therapy help fix this self-image issue? Granted, it's been so long that it would take a long time to fix but after 23 marriages I think I'd suspect that I may need some help.

Some people would realise something is wrong; others may not.

It may have been that no one said anything or interfered too much. Or they did get outside input but ignored it because they felt fine, even though there may have been a self-image issue.

At this point, it is all speculation.

:rolleyes:

Yes, their's sexism in the world, but let's not exaggerate.

Point to the exageration.


It is not the accepted view of the majority of society that a woman's "entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring."

You're right. Her worth also depends on her staying skinny. I stand corrected.


That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this woman was from a religion that forbade sex outside of marriage.
Religion?

How about, she lives in the USA, a country with by far the most fucked up attitudes about sex of any modern nation? No religion required. :P

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with a culture that tells women their entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring. I'm sure the fact that she was first married to a man twice her age is totally not relevant. I'm sure the fact that she's been abused and abandoned in the past has nothing to do with her behavior.
I think it has less to do with culture and more to do with some sort of mental disorder she's nursing. Marrying at 16 probably had something to do with that.

I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with a culture that tells women their entire worth depends on finding a man and getting a ring.

oh come now lets stop pretending that all men don't want to be swept off their feet (admittedly one involves sex the other involves commitment but oh well)

What's a succubus to do?

harvest the mens sperm and transform into her male version to impregnate sleeping women?

fertility doctors are a strange group

So what cultural aspect of American life influenced a certain woman to spend her life living with a chimpanzee, bathing with him, drinking wine with him, and sleeping with him, until it ripped her friend's face off?

oddly until the last bit I thought you was just talking about a middle aged man :tongue:

You're right. Her worth also depends on her staying skinny. I stand corrected.

I contest that being in that stupid type of shape women go for is more of a nuisance...I mean what possible use is a 6-pac when you can have a keg?!

How about, she lives in the USA, a country with by far the most fucked up attitudes about sex of any modern nation? No religion required. :P

bloody Americans always proclaiming your the best :mad:

So what cultural aspect of American life influenced a certain woman to spend her life living with a chimpanzee, bathing with him, drinking wine with him, and sleeping with him, until it ripped her friend's face off?

Talk about a weird sense of self-worth...

I think you're talking about a different story. So... the 'cultural aspects' of your little diversion are somewhere between obfuscation and irrelevence.

So it's completely society's fault then?

Did you actually read the post you are responding to?

The societal paradigm that propels girls towards marriage as a goal is only one of the factors Bottle mentioned. She also mentioned abuse, the strange relationship dynamics of (at least one of) her former marriages, and violence and abandonment issues.

But, yeah, easier to pretend it was all pinned on 'society'.

On the other hand, our societies are not innocent. Marriage is still considered the 'goal' for the female majority - even those who have other goals and aspirations they're fulfilling.

....why? Seriously, why the hell would anyone do that? I hated all the pointlessness of the marriage ceremony the first time. To go through it 23 would... I can't imagine.

You only have your first wedding once.

This woman makes me think that she is marrying version of a crazy cat lady.

Point to the exageration.

That modern US culture considers getting married to be the only form of worth a woman can have is an exaggeration. Some elements of the society may feel that way, but not all, and I would say not most.

You're right. Her worth also depends on her staying skinny. I stand corrected.

Why is it that those who decry sexism sometimes seem unwilling to acknowledge that any progress has been made? Is it that their identity and sense of self-worth is completely wrapped up in their cause? Or is it simply a demand for black and white ideological absolutism?

Religion?

How about, she lives in the USA, a country with by far the most fucked up attitudes about sex of any modern nation? No religion required. :P

Oh please, let's not turn this into baseless bashing and steriotyping of Americans. Yes, the United States has its social problems. However, they in large part stem from the fundementalist religious side of society to which I was reffering.

That modern US culture considers getting married to be the only form of worth a woman can have is an exaggeration. Some elements of the society may feel that way, but not all, and I would say not most.


The general paradigm still considers the female to be either bride, or bride-to-be. Choosing to remain single (or even not-single-but-not-married) is viewed as being an almost militant choice. A girl of a certain age who is unmarried evokes 'why?' at the very least, and probably rumours of lesbianism. And - of course - it's built into our 'culture' that - if you want children - you must marry.


Why is it that those who decry sexism sometimes seem unwilling to acknowledge that any progress has been made? Is it that their identity and sense of self-worth is completely wrapped up in their cause? Or is it simply a demand for black and white ideological absolutism?


People like to pretend that women HAVE equality, and that sexism is a thing of the past. Some progress has been made, but not nearly enough as some people would like to pretend.

The question shouldn't be 'why deny that any progress has been made?'... the real question should be 'what are some people GAINING by pretending that everything is good?'.

Did you actually read the post you are responding to?

The societal paradigm that propels girls towards marriage as a goal is only one of the factors Bottle mentioned. She also mentioned abuse, the strange relationship dynamics of (at least one of) her former marriages, and violence and abandonment issues.

But, yeah, easier to pretend it was all pinned on 'society'.

On the other hand, our societies are not innocent. Marriage is still considered the 'goal' for the female majority - even those who have other goals and aspirations they're fulfilling.

And society is hard to fight.

I am, for example, no end of frustrated with my daughter. She has an advanced degree from a highly respected university and a job that she loves, but she still allows herself to be unhappy because she's not in a relationship. (This is, of course, my fault, except when it's the fault of a culture that rejects intelligent women - her acerbic personality plays no part in this).

I always wanted to have a string of 24 hour marriages.

I have no words. That's worse than the 2 year old and the dog.

How could you make it illegal??

Although i agree 23 times is raaaaaaaaather excessive :p


PLUS how much money has she spent on weddings!? some people struggle to pay for one wedding let alone 23!!

And heres another question....would you wear the same wedding dress each time or would you want a new one each time?

Each time you dye it a slightly darker shade of grey so that by the time you get to the last one you wear a charcoal dress to walk down the aisle and then dye it one shade darker to bury him.

In these difficult economic times one needs to get the most out of every cent. She's just getting the most out of her wedding dress.

You only have your first wedding once.

Good. It was horrible to deal with the first time. I hate that BS. The ceremonial aspect was so my husband's mother wouldn't cry because she wouldn't get to see her baby boy get married. I would have been happy with getting married in city hall.

Good. It was horrible to deal with the first time. I hate that BS. The ceremonial aspect was so my husband's mother wouldn't cry because she wouldn't get to see her baby boy get married. I would have been happy with getting married in city hall.

I am so not having a wedding if I ever find a reason to marry.

PLUS how much money has she spent on weddings!? some people struggle to pay for one wedding let alone 23!!

And heres another question....would you wear the same wedding dress each time or would you want a new one each time?

Vegas. 500 dollars and the wedding dress is a loaner that zips up over your regular cloths

Good. It was horrible to deal with the first time. I hate that BS. The ceremonial aspect was so my husband's mother wouldn't cry because she wouldn't get to see her baby boy get married. I would have been happy with getting married in city hall.

I would have been happy if you'd told me that you were married before I wrote an anthology of love sonnets, short stories, free form beat poetry, and an unfinished sequel to Catcher in the Rye where Holden finds out Phoebe has been kidnapped by Croatian Nazi Muslims, travels to China to learn Kung Fu, then goes on to invent the washing machine after saving her (its called Holden Saves His Family), all in effort to get you to go out with me.

Luckily, I later met Nanatsu, so I didn't have to you, know, kill myself or anything.

What's that? She's getting married?

WHAT THE FU-

I am so not having a wedding if I ever find a reason to marry.

The ceremonial aspect is just that, a ceremony. Marriage in itself is a type of legal contract that can be entered into, and while carrying certain rights and obligations, can be terminated at the will of both parties, as with any contract. Thus to be married, one doesn't need some hokey ceremony, just the legal framework.

I would have been happy if you'd told me that you were married before I wrote an anthology of love sonnets, short stories, free form beat poetry, and an unfinished sequel to Catcher in the Rye where Holden finds out Phoebe has been kidnapped by Croatian Nazi Muslims, travels to China to learn Kung Fu, then goes on to invent the washing machine after saving her (its called Holden Saves His Family), all in effort to get you to go out with me.

Luckily, I later met Nanatsu, so I didn't have to you, know, kill myself or anything.

What's that? She's getting married?

WHAT THE FU-

There, there, I'm sure there are other available lasses around here. We could find you some lass bait. :)

This woman is the reason why our divorce rate is so high. *nods*

If you think about it, people like her do skew it a bit.

There is no limit to the number of times you can marry and divorce. But you can only not divorce once.

The ceremonial aspect is just that, a ceremony.

and whats wrong with pomp! *takes back your bread maker and doesn't fuss over you*

Vegas. 500 dollars and the wedding dress is a loaner that zips up over your regular cloths

Yeah, that's what they say. It wouldn't zip over MY clothes. Bastards.

Yeah, that's what they say. It wouldn't zip over MY clothes. Bastards.

I'm trying to picture your avatar wearing a white wedding dress.

It's frightening.

I'm trying to picture your avatar wearing a white wedding dress.

It's frightening.

Well, obviously.



It has to be a red wedding dress, otherwise I'd be a hypocrite.

Luckily, I later met Nanatsu, so I didn't have to you, know, kill myself or anything.

What's that? She's getting married?

WHAT THE FU-

I am not getting married. <.<

I am not getting married. <.<

you just got cold feet. Come on we already got a groom picked out for you..... LG.

PLUS how much money has she spent on weddings!? some people struggle to pay for one wedding let alone 23!!


being married for 36 hours smacks of a Vegas wedding.. quite affordable! spread 23 out over 50 or so years, and you'll do juuuuust fiiiiinnnne.

If you think about it, people like her do skew it a bit.

There is no limit to the number of times you can marry and divorce. But you can only not divorce once.

Indeed. Everyone hears the "50% of all marriages end in divorce" statistic, but I just recently learned that only something like 25% of all FIRST marriages end in divorce. Kinda makes the odds sound much nicer. :)

Did she have small ceremonies for the later ones?

Wow that is a lot of times. Maybe this time it will be right.

Maybe she doesn't realise that she can have a relationship without marrying them.

you just got cold feet. Come on we already got a groom picked out for you..... LG.

I thought you picked Ghost of Ayn Rand for my groom. I already read all the objective philosophy there is to read!!!!

Don't tell me now I have to make a concise study on the psyche of clowns!!! :eek2: