NationStates Jolt Archive


Why

United Dependencies
20-02-2009, 01:42
Why abortion? I know that most of you know that that all we talk about is abortion. I just want to know why this shows up so much. Can we not pick a new topic (other than the stimulus plan)?
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2009, 01:43
There's a perfectly lovely cheese thread for you. *nod*
Pirated Corsairs
20-02-2009, 01:44
It's just a fad. NSG topics are cyclical.
Hydesland
20-02-2009, 01:44
Because everyone on NSG secretly were failed abortions.
Muravyets
20-02-2009, 01:44
It's seasonal. Abortion comes up afresh as spring approaches, just like snowdrops.

Other topics also come in seasonal cycles. Summer, for example, is teen-racist season. Keep your eye out for them. ;)

At least, this is my theory.
United Dependencies
20-02-2009, 01:44
There's a perfectly lovely cheese thread for you. *nod*

Sadly I am not experinced enought to know what that means.

nevermind.
Grave_n_idle
20-02-2009, 01:45
Abortion gets so much forum time because it is quite possibly the definitive issue of an age.

No other single issue has the potential to do as much damage to the rights of so many people, in such short order.
Holy Cheese and Shoes
20-02-2009, 01:46
Sadly I am not experinced enought to know what that means.

You've never experienced cheese?
JuNii
20-02-2009, 01:48
Abortion gets so much forum time because it is quite possibly the definitive issue of an age.

No other single issue has the potential to do as much damage to the rights of so many people, in such short order.

Religon?
Politics?

it cycles through. eventually it will move on to homosexual rights, then religion, then politics then back to Abortion.
United Dependencies
20-02-2009, 01:51
You've never experienced cheese?

Cheese?
Saint Clair Island
20-02-2009, 01:52
to say nothing of evolution, Israel vs Palestine and Communists vs everybody.

in fact at one point there was an Abortion vs Evolution thread. good stuff.
Grave_n_idle
20-02-2009, 01:53
Religon?
Politics?

it cycles through. eventually it will move on to homosexual rights, then religion, then politics then back to Abortion.

Religion and politics are not 'single issues'. Homosexual rights affects a smaller proportion of the population.

Overturning Roe vs Wade would immediately change the paradigm for something like 160 million Americans, overnight.
Sdaeriji
20-02-2009, 02:05
It's a powerfully polarizing debate with little in the way of middle ground. People are highly invested in their side, whichever it is, and feel very strongly about it. There are few people who don't have a closely-held opinion on the subject. So, people argue about it a lot.

You know what kind of threads we have entirely too many of on this forum? Happy go lucky kumbaya bullshit threads about how we should all get along and stop debating abortion/Israel/Iraq/PETA/etc. This is a debate forum. What would be the point if we limited ourselves to topics that we all agreed on?
Grave_n_idle
20-02-2009, 02:07
You know what kind of threads we have entirely too many of on this forum? Happy go lucky kumbaya bullshit threads about how we should all get along and stop debating abortion/Israel/Iraq/PETA/etc. This is a debate forum. What would be the point if we limited ourselves to topics that we all agreed on?

I agree.

Shit. Okay, I don't agree....
Dumb Ideologies
20-02-2009, 02:09
Why abortion? I know that most of you know that that all we talk about is abortion. I just want to know why this shows up so much. Can we not pick a new topic (other than the stimulus plan)?

The stimulus plan should be aborted. TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE
Holy Cheese and Shoes
20-02-2009, 02:10
Happy go lucky kumbaya bullshit

Feel the love :fluffle:
Saint Clair Island
20-02-2009, 02:14
You know what kind of threads we have entirely too many of on this forum? Happy go lucky kumbaya bullshit threads about how we should all get along and stop debating abortion/Israel/Iraq/PETA/etc. This is a debate forum. What would be the point if we limited ourselves to topics that we all agreed on?

I disagree. With all the debate threads, we need the "why can't everyone get along" threads and the fun or humorous threads to balance things out. If you'd like, we can argue about this for the next five hundred posts.
JuNii
20-02-2009, 02:14
Religion and politics are not 'single issues'. Homosexual rights affects a smaller proportion of the population.

Overturning Roe vs Wade would immediately change the paradigm for something like 160 million Americans, overnight.

Those are single issues. just not a simple one [in relation to abortion/equal rights/etc].
Khadgar
20-02-2009, 02:27
I'm waiting for gay marriage to be the hot button issue again. Should crop up around September/October.
Esselldee
20-02-2009, 02:36
I agree.

Shit. Okay, I don't agree....

Best laugh of my day! :D

Wonder what that says of my day... :p
The Final Five
20-02-2009, 02:38
probably because abortion is a hot topic and because people have strong veiws on it, it would be the same if someone made a thread on euthinasia or the death penalty, the stronger peoples views are, the more debate it sparks
Sdaeriji
20-02-2009, 05:05
I disagree. With all the debate threads, we need the "why can't everyone get along" threads and the fun or humorous threads to balance things out. If you'd like, we can argue about this for the next five hundred posts.

Gladly.

The "why can't everyone get along" threads are meaningless spam because people don't come to this forum to get along with everyone. It's a debate forum. It's purpose and intent is in no way obscured. People come here to debate with other people, not to post their thoughts and get seven hundred "I agree" responses. I'm sure there are forums out there where everyone just pats each other on the back about how right they all are about everything, but this isn't, wasn't, won't be, hasn't tried to be, doesn't want to be, nor shouldn't be one of those places.
greed and death
20-02-2009, 05:07
because in the US it is the most divisive issue over the last 20 years.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
20-02-2009, 10:47
Abortion is a divisive subject, therefore it will generate arguments, it's as simple as that. NSG has a diverse group of people from many different walks of life and from many nations, therefore the likelihood of gathering a population that is going to argue about a divisive subject is very high. That and people like to argue.
Risottia
20-02-2009, 10:49
Why abortion? I know that most of you know that that all we talk about is abortion.

No we don't. Though I agree that abortion threads appear with alarming frequency.

Anyway; Because religion likes to mix with politics.
The Black Forrest
20-02-2009, 10:52
We can talk about ending womens suffrage! Haven't women suffered enough?
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2009, 12:55
Cheese?

Cheese!
Intangelon
20-02-2009, 12:58
Why abortion? I know that most of you know that that all we talk about is abortion. I just want to know why this shows up so much. Can we not pick a new topic (other than the stimulus plan)?

Let me get this straight -- your solution to the "too many abortion threads" problem is to start yet another one?

Brilliant.
Trans Fatty Acids
20-02-2009, 15:28
It's seasonal. Abortion comes up afresh as spring approaches, just like snowdrops.

"In the spring a young man's fancy lightly turns to thoughts of embryos"? Tennyson had it wrong all this time.

Backing up your seasonal theory, the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision is January 22, and of course spring in any election year is primary-debate season, where Republicans fall all over themselves trying to be the most anti-abortion and Democrats compete to see who can ignore the issue for the longest time. So abortion's going to be in the news, at least in the US. I have no idea what the excuse is in other countries.
Bottle
20-02-2009, 15:31
Newbies are cute.

*cuddles the OP*
The One Eyed Weasel
20-02-2009, 15:58
The stimulus plan should be aborted. TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE

FIRE SALE!!! EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!! ABORT EVERYTHING!!!!

Seriously though, abortion is interesting because when a decision is finally made, there's going to be 150 million people saying "I told you so! I was right!".
Kryozerkia
20-02-2009, 17:33
If you don't like the upsurge in abortion related topics... don't participate in those topics. Create a topic of your own. It's simple really.
South Lorenya
20-02-2009, 17:39
This is NSG; often it starts with a ridiculously extreme statement like "Anyone who tries to get an abortion should get thrown in jail, even if it wa caused by rape!" or "All priests must endorse abortion or be jailed for being unamerican!". Frankly, I think most of the extreme statements are made by the conservatives, but keep in mind that as a liberal I'm naturally biased...
United Dependencies
20-02-2009, 22:32
Let me get this straight -- your solution to the "too many abortion threads" problem is to start yet another one?

Brilliant.
Not start another abortion thread start a thread with a different subject. Or were you talking about this thread?
Risottia
20-02-2009, 22:48
Let me get this straight -- your solution to the "too many abortion threads" problem is to start yet another one?

Brilliant.

Mine would be to abort it.
United Dependencies
20-02-2009, 23:11
If you don't like the upsurge in abortion related topics... don't participate in those topics. Create a topic of your own. It's simple really.
oh I don't mind I just want to know why it is a hot topic.
Intangelon
22-02-2009, 19:59
Not start another abortion thread start a thread with a different subject. Or were you talking about this thread?

*facepalm* Yes. This thread.

Mine would be to abort it.

Touché.

Aw hell, THREE-ché. You earned it.
Saint Clair Island
22-02-2009, 20:24
People come here to debate with other people, not to post their thoughts and get seven hundred "I agree" responses.

and yet that's exactly what happens most of the time. only a few people in any given thread ever really disagree, and those are the ones who generate most of the debate. most of the rest are just people saying "yeah, I agree with you" or, if it's a thread discussing a news article, repeating whatever Poster #2 said in a different form.
The Cat-Tribe
22-02-2009, 20:45
Why abortion? I know that most of you know that that all we talk about is abortion. I just want to know why this shows up so much. Can we not pick a new topic (other than the stimulus plan)?

Because here in the United States anti-choice movements continue to try to deprive women of fundamental rights.

Because all over the world women are being oppressed and dying from unsafe abortions.

It's a legitimate and pressing issue. Once the rights of women are recognized universally without constant attack, the issue can be silenced.
Conserative Morality
22-02-2009, 22:02
So, uh, when's Gun Control gonna come around again?:D
Neo-Order
22-02-2009, 22:19
The stimulus plan should be aborted. TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE

That was hilarious... I happen to agree... So I will post my two cents here as well.

Abortion is a hot topic, just like the other topics ALWAYS discussed by others in the same social group (And yes... I'm rounding everyone who posts on this site into a single group). We always debate items found in topics like religion, politics, human rights and a godly amount of others.
I saw that someone mentioned we debate these issues because we simply feel stong about them and that there isnt any middle-ground... And I agree, but I think its primarily of a different reason. We debate it because we feel like its the only way we can force change into a world where we have little say. For instance... If you have the right to vote, or you are a holder of some low level political position, Your time wouldnt be spent in debating topics trying to change minds. Your time would be spend trying to get things done, not trying to recruit followers.

We all simply debate because we can't do anything else. Not saying I'm against debating in forums... Since... sure.. its fun and intrigueing
Neo-Order
22-02-2009, 22:24
So, uh, when's Gun Control gonna come around again?:D

Gun control. Well damn. I won't see the day someone takes my gun away. Cause if that day does come? They will be taking it from my cold dead fingers.
Trostia
23-02-2009, 00:40
That was hilarious... I happen to agree... So I will post my two cents here as well.

Abortion is a hot topic

and a messy one too.
Tmutarakhan
24-02-2009, 00:17
I'm waiting for gay marriage to be the hot button issue again. Should crop up around September/October.
Sooner than that: California Supremes have oral arguments in the Prop 8 case on March 5, and seem determined to make a swift ruling.