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I guess he may be forced to resign...

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/02/burris-now-acknowledges-fundraising-effort-for-blagojevich.html

U.S. Sen. Roland Burris has acknowledged he sought to raise campaign funds for then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich at the request of the governor’s brother at the same time he was making a pitch to be appointed to the Senate seat previously held by President Barack Obama.

Burris' latest comments in Peoria Monday night were the first time he has publicly said he was actively trying to raise money for Blagojevich. Previously Burris has left the impression that he always balked at the issue of raising money for the governor because of his interest in the Senate appointment.

In comments to reporters after appearing at a Democratic dinner, the senator several times contradicted his latest under-oath affidavit that he quietly filed with the Illinois House impeachment panel earlier this month. That affidavit was itself an attempt to clean up his live, sworn testimony to the panel Jan. 8, when he omitted his contacts with several Blagojevich insiders.

I think that they would have better luck picking someone off the streets of Chicago at random, than they would virtually any Illinois politician. The place stinks to high heaven of corruption at every level, and it seems that almost everyone is willing to "play".

nah, there are good politicians; they do, however, have to find someone NOT willing to bribe blagojevich.

I never liked that guy, not for one minute..

I never liked that guy, not for one minute..

You would think they could find SOMEONE...

I think that they would have better luck picking someone off the streets of Chicago at random, than they would virtually any Illinois politician. The place stinks to high heaven of corruption at every level, and it seems that almost everyone is willing to "play".

I think before you make such foolish claims, you should live here. I know its the new "in" thing for the right wing talking heads to feed to their flock because there is a black dude from IL in charge right now, but there are politicians that the vultures dont talk about. There is a reason for that.


That being said, Burris is an idiot and should never have even been confirmed.

You would think they could find SOMEONE...

The problem is, it wasn't really their choice. Under state law, Blago had the power as long as he was governor, and there was not really much the Senate could do about it.

I think before you make such foolish claims, you should live here. I know its the new "in" thing for the right wing talking heads to feed to their flock because there is a black dude from IL in charge right now, but there are politicians that the vultures dont talk about. There is a reason for that.

The FBI appears to disagree with your assessment of Illinois politics.

That being said, Burris is an idiot and should never have even been confirmed.

Which begs the question - why did people go along with Blago's pick?

Which begs the question - why did people go along with Blago's pick?

Because they didn't really have a choice. They can't refuse to seat someone who has gained his seat in accordance with the law.

The FBI appears to disagree with your assessment of Illinois politics.

Good for the FBI. By the way, it was one guy who made an exaggerated claim in the heat of the moment. Youre doing that thing again where you talk out your ass and blurt out easily disproved claims.


Which begs the question - why did people go along with Blago's pick?

Kinda had to. What Id like and whats a good idea arent always the same thing.

Water's wet, Illinois politics is corrupt, so? anyone even half awake the last century or so knows this. Burris bought his seat from Blago-that's how you GET a seat in Illinois-you pay the right guys and they get it for you.

Big deal. Obviously it works for Illinois or they'd stop letting it happen.

:rolleyes:
that's how you GET a seat in Illinois-you pay the right guys and they get it for you.
I think before you make such foolish claims, you should live here. I know its the new "in" thing for the right wing talking heads to feed to their flock because there is a black dude from IL in charge right now, but there are politicians that the vultures dont talk about. There is a reason for that.
Unless you have some sort of evidence that every IL politician both at the federal and state level didnt actually win the election, they just bribed their way into office.

Youre doing that thing again where you talk out your ass and blurt out easily disproved claims.

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"Thank You... For... Your... Cooperation!! Do you have any... breath mint? Binaca, perhaps?"

I request you all pardon me for citing a right-wing nut (you really should read his biography, though; sick and fascinating):

G. Gordon Liddy blames the modern problems in Illinois on the government "cracking-down" on prostitution and gambling. He claims that the poverty rate would be lower and that the economy would be better had that not happened.

I request you all pardon me for citing a right-wing nut (you really should read his biography, though; sick and fascinating):

G. Gordon Liddy blames the modern problems in Illinois on the government "cracking-down" on prostitution and gambling. He claims that the poverty rate would be lower and that the economy would be better had that not happened.

This coming from the same right wing that openly likes to howl about the opposition is "immoral" in one way or another? The same right wing that wasted tax payer money trying to impeach a President on extramarital affair that only harmed a dress and a cigar at most, while giving a complete pass to an incompetent business manager who fiddled while the country's economy burned? Really?

This coming from the same right wing that openly likes to howl about the opposition is "immoral" in one way or another? The same right wing that wasted tax payer money trying to impeach a President on extramarital affair that only harmed a dress and a cigar at most, while giving a complete pass to an incompetent business manager who fiddled while the country's economy burned? Really?
Yes, the same nut who took Nixon's words "We have to get rid of this Jack Anderson guy" literally. The same fellow who roasted and ate a rat (as a child) to surpass his fear of them. The same man who deliberately burned his left hand to injury. The man who recommended poisoning marijuana fields.

Even a broken-clock is right twice a day. :D He spoke from experiance as an FBI agent in the area, seeing the effect of the crack-down.

Yes, the same nut who took Nixon's words "We have to get rid of this Jack Anderson guy" literally. The same fellow who roasted and ate a rat (as a child) to surpass his fear of them. The same man who deliberately burned his left hand to injury. The man who recommended poisoning marijuana fields.

Even a broken-clock is right twice a day. :D He spoke from experiance as an FBI agent in the area, seeing the effect of the crack-down.

And of course, told every Real American™ to shoot government agents in the head, because they're wearing protective vests.

Rich innit, the right?

And of course, told every Real American™ to shoot government agents in the head, because they're wearing protective vests

He is very prissy about weapons being taken away. But what do you expect? The guy confessed he has tried to obliterate conscience and morals from himself since he was 13.

Reich innit, the right?

Fixed.

:rolleyes:


Unless you have some sort of evidence that every IL politician both at the federal and state level didnt actually win the election, they just bribed their way into office.

With Illinois? Home of the four Felon Governors? How could you tell if they won an actual election, or bought the right officials? Seriously, didn't your Legislature float a measure to repeal the Ethics Bill Barack was so proud of this year? What's up with that shit?

With Illinois? Home of the four Felon Governors?

So, this proves that every elected official in the state and federal level are corrupt? Or are you ready to admit you made a totally bullshit claim and be a man about it?

How could you tell if they won an actual election, or bought the right officials?

How could you tell that doesnt happen in every state?!?

Seriously, didn't your Legislature float a measure to repeal the Ethics Bill Barack was so proud of this year?

No. And if they did, it was shot down immediately and thu it was such a minor story I missed it.

...is that the same Liddy who helped break into the Watergate hotel and was sentenced to 20 years in jail for it?

...is that the same Liddy who helped break into the Watergate hotel and was sentenced to 20 years in jail for it?

That was what gained him a reputation. But the Watergate break-in was the least of Liddy's dark dealings. The guy went to a school/church that was unabashedly pro-Nazi (made young Liddy salute the American flag spear-fashion, which he says he still has to fight the impulse to do); he was told he would be crippled for life if he said his prayers incorrectly. He was originally left-handed, but his mother hated that, and forced him to use his right.

Liddy is an extremely intelligent man. Unfortunately, he had a screwed-up childhood and became so crazy even Nixon said (according to his own his taping system) that he was a "right-wing nut". If you read Will, you will find that G. Gordon is so honest about being a psychopath that one could call it shameless.

I guess he may be forced to resign...

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/02/burris-now-acknowledges-fundraising-effort-for-blagojevich.html



I think that they would have better luck picking someone off the streets of Chicago at random, than they would virtually any Illinois politician. The place stinks to high heaven of corruption at every level, and it seems that almost everyone is willing to "play".

Burris is (1) a Democrat and (2) a member of a PC-favored class. He will therefore never be called to account for any lie, deception, crime or any other irregularity he may have committed or may ever commit. Even a smoking gun like the one that did Blago in won't work on him, due to factor (2).

If, on the other hand, he were a white Republican, he'd be out on his ass by now, and more likely would never have been nominated in the first place.

Burris is (1) a Democrat and (2) a member of a PC-favored class. He will therefore never be called to account for any lie, deception, crime or any other irregularity he may have committed or may ever commit. Even a smoking gun like the one that did Blago in won't work on him, due to factor (2).

If, on the other hand, he were a white Republican, he'd be out on his ass by now, and more likely would never have been nominated in the first place.

Yes. America is racist against the poor oppressed white man.

FORT SUMTER!

Burris is (1) a Democrat and (2) a member of a PC-favored class. He will therefore never be called to account for any lie, deception, crime or any other irregularity he may have committed or may ever commit. Even a smoking gun like the one that did Blago in won't work on him, due to factor (2).

If, on the other hand, he were a white Republican, he'd be out on his ass by now, and more likely would never have been nominated in the first place.

That's a very...overcomplicated expression of a false assumption, there.

Fact is, Burris is a Chicago Politician and a Democrat, which greatly reduces his chances of being bounced for doing what is done in his home environment. KOL's desperate defense of Illinois aside (and why not, he is, after all, a supporter of that system himself, and likely a beneficiary with a vested interest), Burris won't because they already got Blago.

It's all good, it's Chicago, after all, not like it's happening somewhere with ethics, morals, or law. (There's a reason Stonecipher and Condit moved Boeing to Chicago. Anywhere else, and they might've faced investigations for stock manipulation and fraud...)

KOL's desperate defense of Illinois aside (and why not, he is, after all, a supporter of that system himself, and likely a beneficiary with a vested interest)

Hold on...did you just A) Imply I support corruption and B) Imply that I partake in said corruption myself?

Burris is (1) a Democrat and (2) a member of a PC-favored class. He will therefore never be called to account for any lie, deception, crime or any other irregularity he may have committed or may ever commit. Even a smoking gun like the one that did Blago in won't work on him, due to factor (2).
Yeah right, ask Kwame Kilpatrick.

Hold on...did you just A) Imply I support corruption and B) Imply that I partake in said corruption myself?

Exactly. Didn't you know we're both silent partners with the Duffs? I myself have two firms involved in the hired-truck program.

Or, alternately, people are spouting stuff that they don't know about and can't back up.

Burris is (1) a Democrat and (2) a member of a PC-favored class. He will therefore never be called to account for any lie, deception, crime or any other irregularity he may have committed or may ever commit. Even a smoking gun like the one that did Blago in won't work on him, due to factor (2).

Durbin’s comments came shortly before Rep. Phil Hare, a Democrat from western Illinois, became the first member of Congress to publicly call on Burris to step down, describing the ongoing Blagojevich saga as “a recurring nightmare.”

You were saying? Want to take any of that back now? No? No not even a little bit?

Unsurprised.

I think the question will be whether anyone has the spine to take down the only African-American member of the Senate...


Blagojevich was really a brilliant man in that respect, "deny any senate pick by me will you!" lol...

I request you all pardon me for citing a right-wing nut (you really should read his biography, though; sick and fascinating):

G. Gordon Liddy blames the modern problems in Illinois on the government "cracking-down" on prostitution and gambling. He claims that the poverty rate would be lower and that the economy would be better had that not happened.
My bet is he's against these specific crackdowns cause they're the ones he's most likely to be caught in.
It'd be Rush blaming modern problems on the government cracking-down on prescription pill fraud.

Water's wet, Illinois politics is corrupt, so? anyone even half awake the last century or so knows this. Burris bought his seat from Blago-that's how you GET a seat in Illinois-you pay the right guys and they get it for you.

Big deal. Obviously it works for Illinois or they'd stop letting it happen.

Illinois, and specifically Chicago politics at your service. These are the union and machine politicians that made Bamy a viable candidate, then confused the idiot masses into electing Bamy.