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...behead your wife probably doesn't come at the top of the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7894721.stm?lss

The founder of a US Muslim TV network has been charged over the beheading of his wife, media reports say.

Muzzammil Hassan, 44, is accused of second degree murder of Aasiya Hassan, whose body was found last week at the TV station in New York state.

Both Mr Hassan and his wife worked at Bridges TV, a station aimed at countering stereotypes of Muslims.

*edges away*

...behead your wife probably doesn't come at the top of the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7894721.stm?lss

...gobshite....

...behead your wife probably doesn't come at the top of the list.


The sheer irony of it.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=60943&d=1234455029

You can't make this shit up!

Killing one's spouse is a long standing cultural tradition here in the US of A, he was probably just trying to fit in the best way he knew how.

It's like me trying to counter the stereotype of clowns being creepy by hiding in the bushes.

You have lovely bushes by the way. :)

I agree that really isn't the best way to head off accusations that Islam is a violent and backward religion. He probably wasn't thinking straight when he did it though. Maybe he just lost his head in the heat of the moment.

...behead your wife probably doesn't come at the top of the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7894721.stm?lss

The founder of a US Muslim TV network has been charged over the beheading of his wife, media reports say.

If he's convicted, we can talk.

how does it get charged as 2nd degree murder? who has the implements at the office to cut off someone's head without having to plan it out a bit first?

If he's convicted, we can talk.

Meanwhile, you mop up the mess that came out of his wife's neck stump.

Aside from the horribleness of the crime, the thing that pisses me off about it is how perfectly it plays into the stereotype. Meanwhile, there actually is a long-standing tradition of brutal spouse murder in the US, among non-Muslims, but no one is going to mention that because this asshole just had to be a Muslim and do this. No one is going to mention the fact that a significant number of people (including non-Muslims) who murder their wives for reasons other than money do it over stuff that stereotypical Muslims call "honor." And no one is going to talk about the likelihood that the Muslim scumbags who murder their wives and claim Islam gave them permission to, would probably have done it anyway, even if there were no such thing as Islam.

Sigh.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/--was--/society.jpg

Meanwhile, you mop up the mess that came out of his wife's neck stump.

No, meanwhile you bathe in it and rub it on your lips like a pre-historic woman would do with her menstrual blood to get the attention you so want.

Wait, you're already doing it. Never mind.

And the real reason it pisses me off is because now my favorite forum is going to be cluttered up with armchair genocidists' collections of bigoted jokes and lol-pics that don't actually make any points but do let them dump fresh loads of scorn, insult and hate all over the people we already know they hate.

If he's convicted, we can talk.

He confessed.

And the real reason it pisses me off is because now my favorite forum is going to be cluttered up with armchair genocidists' collections of bigoted jokes and lol-pics that don't actually make any points but do let them dump fresh loads of scorn, insult and hate all over the people we already know they hate.

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/allahsaurus.jpg

:)

And the real reason it pisses me off is because now my favorite forum is going to be cluttered up with armchair genocidists' collections of bigoted jokes and lol-pics that don't actually make any points but do let them dump fresh loads of scorn, insult and hate all over the people we already know they hate.

All the while calling on the people who ask for a modicum of temperance to "clean up the mess his wife left when she croaked".

http://i16.tinypic.com/81pszrn.jpg

Two Middle East mothers are sitting in the cafe strip chatting over a pint of goat's milk. The older of the mothers pulls her bag out and starts flipping through pictures and they start reminiscing.
"This is my oldest son Mohammed. He's 24 years old now"
"Yes, I remember him as a baby" says the other mother cheerfully.
"He's a martyr now though" mum confides.
"Oh so sad dear" says the other.
"And this is my second son Kalid. He's 21"
"Oh, I remember him," says the other happily, "he had such curly hair when he was born".
"He's a martyr too " says mum quietly.
"Oh gracious me ...." says the other.
"And this is my third son. My baby. My beautiful Ahmed. He's 18", she whispers.
"Yes" says the friend enthusiastically, "I remember when he first started school".
"He's a martyr also," says mum, with tears in her eyes.
After a pause and a deep sigh, the second muslim mother looks wistfully at the photographs and says...

"They blow up so fast, don't they?"

He confessed.

Okay. See, THAT'S a decent response.

To which I'll simply answer that what he did has nothing to do with his religion.

Why do niggers always have sex on their minds?
Because they have pubes on their heads!

Nice to have a time machine.

Killing one's spouse is a long standing cultural tradition here in the US of A, he was probably just trying to fit in the best way he knew how.
This.

Wow, what a fucking idiot.

This of course means that trying to counter stereotypes about Muslims will always fail because the stereotypes are always true which means it's OK for me to hate and fear Muslims and hey here's some Muslims-are-terrorists "joke" pictures I'll spam the forum with!

Nah, I won't. Unlike others.

To which I'll simply answer that what he did has nothing to do with his religion.

Let us wait to hear his motivation. Maybe Allah told him to.

Nah, I won't. Unlike others.

Awww.

And the real reason it pisses me off is because now my favorite forum is going to be cluttered up with armchair genocidists' collections of bigoted jokes and lol-pics that don't actually make any points but do let them dump fresh loads of scorn, insult and hate all over the people we already know they hate.

This of course means that trying to counter stereotypes about Muslims will always fail because the stereotypes are always true which means it's OK for me to hate and fear Muslims and hey here's some Muslims-are-terrorists "joke" pictures I'll spam the forum with!

Nah, I won't. Unlike others.

I'm kinda surprised Kimchi or New Mitanni didn't start this thread to be honest.

Still, this is only getting attention because it involves Muslims. Any other religion involved, nobody would care as much. As it is, it's just "more proof" that Mozlems R Ebil and dey needs to be sterilized, lulz, etc.

Two Middle East (...bin.....), don't they?"

Never one to trip up on the white cloak on the race to the bandwagon.....

This of course means that trying to counter stereotypes about Muslims will always fail because the stereotypes are always true which means it's OK for me to hate and fear Muslims and hey here's some Muslims-are-terrorists "joke" pictures I'll spam the forum with!

Nah, I won't. Unlike others.

http://meow.catsplz.com/cats/pictures/234/I-see-what-you-did-there.jpg
Let it be known that I am not above a little pic-spamming myself.

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/allahsaurus.jpg

:)

I expected this from Kimchi. Not you of all people.

Still, this is only getting attention because it involves Muslims. Any other religion involved, nobody would care as much. As it is, it's just "more proof" that Mozlems R Ebil and dey needs to be sterilized, lulz, etc.

Indeed

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/man-beheads-girlfriend-and-dog-in-gr.html-13929996.html
or....
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN3150230220080731

Still, this is only getting attention because it involves Muslims. .

No, it is because one of the stereotypes about muslims is that they are wifebeaters with a taste for beheadings.
This man ran an anti-stereotype station while being a wifebeater with a taste for beheadings.

The irony is what gives it airtime. If a Catholic priest would be arrested for raping his neighbourboy while running an organisation that fights the stereotype of RC priests fancying altar boys the attention would be the same.

Indeed

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/man-beheads-girlfriend-and-dog-in-gr.html-13929996.html
or....
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN3150230220080731

I could come up with an Internet Rule or Corollary, if only there was a neat name to it:

"The religious belief of an individual will not be implicated in any horrific crimes commited by said individual, unless that religion is Islam in which case the crime will automatically be deemed a collective effort by its followers."

I expected this from Kimchi. Not you of all people.

It's all part of the George Carlin school of comedic thought, I'm afraid. *nod*

No, it is because one of the stereotypes about muslims is that they are wifebeaters with a taste for beheadings.
This man ran an anti-stereotype station while being a wifebeater with a taste for beheadings.

The irony is what gives it airtime. If a Catholic priest would be arrested for raping his neighbourboy while running an organisation that fights the stereotype of RC priests fancying altar boys the attention would be the same.

Except every time a Catholic Priest is reported to have molested a child you don't hear a large voice declare that this is further proof all practicing Catholics are evil child molestors. And Catholics have yet to be physically attacked for their apperance or beliefs in the West and there hasn't been any serious notions of Catholic internment entertained by the American populace.

It's almost like an internet rule. If a horrible crime is committed by someone of religious faith, that religious faith usually gets a pass i.e. "that person doesn't represent Religion X as a whole." Unless that religion is Islam. Then it's "See? Ebil Mozlems lulz!"

Let us wait to hear his motivation. Maybe Allah told him to.
Maybe Napoleon told him to. You don't have to be a Muslim to have delusions. See DK, above, who apparently has the idea that he's funny.

Or maybe "the bitch dissed" him, which would make him oh, so unlike so many non-Muslim wife-murderers.

Maybe Napoleon told him to. You don't have to be a Muslim to have delusions. See DK, above, who apparently has the idea that he's funny.

Or maybe "the bitch dissed" him, which would make him oh, so unlike so many non-Muslim wife-murderers.

They were divorced and had a lot of domestic calls according to the article, which makes them a lot like many divorced American couples that end in murder and/or suicide. But since they're Muslim it's "more proof" of Ebil Izlam lulz.

Actually, it does counter some stereotypes about Muslims.

If you've ever slaughtered a calf or at least participated in a slaughtering, you should know how hard it is to actually behead the animal. Even for a mature rabbit or a large cock, you need a good axe and a good hit to do it in one swing, otherwise you'll break the spine, but the head still stays attached by the surrounding tissue.

The Stereotypical Muslim, however, would use a saber - a weapon completely unsuitable for beheading the 150-pound animal. Not in any number of swings. You'd need effort to behead a rabbit with it. That means he used a completely non-Muslim weapon to do it.

They were divorced and had a lot of domestic calls according to the article, which makes them a lot like many divorced American couples than end in murder and/or suicide. But since they're Muslim it's "more proof" of Ebil Izlam lulz.
It also clearly means that we should focus on asking why she didn't leave and why she was around him in the first place. Because the fact that she DIVORCED HIM clearly doesn't count. And the fact that a domestic abuse victim is most likely to be killed when she's leaving also doesn't count. (Yes, I made the mistake of reading comments on one of those news stories.)

Hmm. Those thoughts are sad and make me uncomfortable. Let's go back to making jokes about Muslims. DID YOU KNOW THEY WEAR TOWELS ON THEIR HEADS LOL?!?!

Except every time a Catholic Priest is reported to have molested a child you don't hear a large voice declare that this is further proof all practicing Catholics are evil child molestors.

Note that I specifically added a bit about the priest in question being active in an organisation that combats the "priests are childmolestors" stereotype.

However, it is definitely true that the media likes to paint Islam with a very big brush, blaming the actions of a few on all. Far more so than with other religions, even if the offensive things in those religions are done by actual churchleaders instead of random followers.

Maybe Napoleon told him to. You don't have to be a Muslim to have delusions. See DK, above, who apparently has the idea that he's funny.

Or maybe "the bitch dissed" him, which would make him oh, so unlike so many non-Muslim wife-murderers.

Certainly. But saying with absolute certainty that it "had nothing to do with him being a muslim" is just as silly as declaring it did - until he tells us.

Things like this make me think that the best way to combat stereotypes about Muslims is to crack a baseball bat over the head of anyone who, either deliberately or accidentally, fulfills such a stereotype (such as by decapitating his wife) and over the head of anyone who pounces on such an instance to yell "Ebil Moslemz lulz!!", and if they survive the initial head trauma, tie them together and throw them bleeding into a shark tank.

But then I remind myself that I am against violence. That was, apparently, a shortsighted decision on my part.

It also clearly means that we should focus on asking why she didn't leave and why she was around him in the first place. Because the fact that she DIVORCED HIM clearly doesn't count. And the fact that a domestic abuse victim is most likely to be killed when she's leaving also doesn't count. (Yes, I made the mistake of reading comments on one of those news stories.)

Hmm. Those thoughts are sad and make me uncomfortable. Let's go back to making jokes about Muslims. DID YOU KNOW THEY WEAR TOWELS ON THEIR HEADS LOL?!?!

Well, it's a lot easier to joke about the oddity of a man fighting stereotypes engaging in a behavior that resembles the stereotype on the surface than it is to joke about horrific domestic abuse ending in the decapitation of a woman at the hands of her spouse.

Sometimes you just have to take what you can get.

Certainly. But saying with absolute certainty that it "had nothing to do with him being a muslim" is just as silly as declaring it did - until he tells us.
No, it isn't. Making assumptions that it COULD be because of this bullshit that some bunch of bigots made up just because you haven't yet been told that it wasn't because he's an Ebil Mozlem lul(tm) is what I call promoting a bigoted viewpoint.

Well, it's a lot easier to joke about the oddity of a man fighting stereotypes engaging in a behavior that resembles the stereotype on the surface than it is to joke about horrific domestic abuse ending in the decapitation of a woman at the hands of her spouse.

Sometimes you just have to take what you can get.
Dumb Ideologies managed it. You're slipping, LG.

Things like this make me think that the best way to combat stereotypes about Muslims is to crack a baseball bat over the head of anyone who, either deliberately or accidentally, fulfills such a stereotype and over the head of anyone who pounces on such and instance to yell "Ebil Moslemz lulz!!", and if they survive the initial head trauma, tie them together and throw them bleeding into a shark tank.

But then I remind myself that I am against violence. That was, apparently, a shortsighted decision on my part.

Perhaps stun guns instead...

Well, it's a lot easier to joke about the oddity of a man fighting stereotypes engaging in a behavior that resembles the stereotype on the surface than it is to joke about horrific domestic abuse ending in the decapitation of a woman at the hands of her spouse.

You're good!

Well, it's a lot easier to joke about the oddity of a man fighting stereotypes engaging in a behavior that resembles the stereotype on the surface than it is to joke about horrific domestic abuse ending in the decapitation of a woman at the hands of her spouse.

Sometimes you just have to take what you can get.
This is true. It's also why I understand the behavior in this thread.

Domestic abuse bums me the fuck out. I don't blame people for wanting to go HEY LOOK OVER THERE!! and distract themselves to avoid thinking about it.

I just think sometimes you have to, you know, not. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just let yourself feel bummed for a couple minutes, and keep your mouth shut if you don't have something productive to say. If only to show just the teeniest bit of respect for the woman who was killed.

Dumb Ideologies managed it. You're slipping, LG.

SO he did. I noticed and it slipped my mind. Hehehe. I'd lose my own head if it wasn't attached. :tongue:

Perhaps stun guns instead...
Stun guns don't cause massive bleeding. How are the sharks going to find them then? Surely it would be more cruel to make them keep swimming (pushing them away from the edges of the tank with a long pole) until the sharks get hungry. Better to get it over with quickly.

If only to show just the teeniest bit of respect for the woman who was killed.

Bottle, we may not talk much, but I always appreciate your input. As such, keep in mind that what I'm asking is rhetorical, and not intended in any way to annoy or belittle you.

Do you think DK gives a shit about the woman?

This is true. It's also why I understand the behavior in this thread.

Domestic abuse bums me the fuck out. I don't blame people for wanting to go HEY LOOK OVER THERE!! and distract themselves to avoid thinking about it.

I just think sometimes you have to, you know, not. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just let yourself feel bummed for a couple minutes, and keep your mouth shut if you don't have something productive to say. If only to show just the teeniest bit of respect for the woman who was killed.

Maybe some good will come out of it. Maybe the events of her death will help bring the domestic abuse issue to a head. *tries to keep a straight face*

This is true. It's also why I understand the behavior in this thread.

Domestic abuse bums me the fuck out. I don't blame people for wanting to go HEY LOOK OVER THERE!! and distract themselves to avoid thinking about it.

I just think sometimes you have to, you know, not. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just let yourself feel bummed for a couple minutes, and keep your mouth shut if you don't have something productive to say. If only to show just the teeniest bit of respect for the woman who was killed.

It's even worse when you know and see such a tragic incident of domestic abuse being dehumanized and depersonalized as scapegoat for demagoguery. She won't ever be remembered by the West as a victim of domestic abuse. She'll just be Another Example of Ebil Mozlemz lulz.

Does anyone have extra detail? I wonder how he managed to behead her, what did he use.


Also, beheading isn't domestic abuse. If he had beaten her to death, that would be abuse. Beheading is a relatively painless way of killing, beat only by shooting in the head.

Bottle, we may not talk much, but I always appreciate your input. As such, keep in mind that what I'm asking is rhetorical, and not intended in any way to annoy or belittle you.

Do you think DK gives a shit about the woman?
Does anybody know any dark jokes I could make about woman-haters, to distract myself from having to think about that question?

:(

Also, beheading isn't domestic abuse. If he had beaten her to death, that would be abuse.
Words fail.

Does anybody know any dark jokes I could make about woman-haters, to distract myself from having to think about that question?

:(

Sorry.

30% of the women killed in the U.S. each year will die at the hands of their husband or boyfriend. I fail to see how this is a "Muslim" problem.

I'm really disgusted at the turn this thread has taken.

30% of the women killed in the U.S. each year will die at the hands of their husband or boyfriend. I fail to see how this is a "Muslim" problem.

Hotwife.

I agree that really isn't the best way to head off accusations that Islam is a violent and backward religion. He probably wasn't thinking straight when he did it though. Maybe he just lost his head in the heat of the moment.

I dunno. The people attributing this to Islam's influence are probably getting a little ahead of themselves. It would be a capital idea to cut off these accusations until enough evidence is available to present before a judge without him laughing his head off at the silliness. Otherwise we're essentially just running around like chickens without heads.

Hotwife.

:rolleyes:

Beheading is a relatively painless way of killing,

Do you know this for sure? How many times have you been beheaded?

I dunno. The people attributing this to Islam's influence are probably getting a little ahead of themselves. It would be a capital idea to cut off these accusations until enough evidence is available to present before a judge without him laughing his head off at the silliness. Otherwise we're essentially just running around like chickens without heads.

http://lolthulhu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bill-seewhatyou.jpg

Do you know this for sure? How many times have you been beheaded?

Well, a properly done beheading has been a form of execution in ancient history. But as with the case of King Charles, a poorly done beheading is a gruesome atrocity even Alberto Gonzalez would call torture.

:rolleyes:

Sorry, I think I should have answered the OTHER part of your post. But the fact remains that Hotwife will try to turn ANYTHING into a "Muslim" problem.

Also, beheading isn't domestic abuse. If he had beaten her to death, that would be abuse. Beheading is a relatively painless way of killing, beat only by shooting in the head.

I am certain Nick Berg agreed.
Then again, the guillotine was considered humane.

Well, a properly done beheading has been a form of execution in ancient history. But as with the case of King Charles, a poorly done beheading is a gruesome atrocity even Alberto Gonzalez would call torture.
But, since beheading is not abuse, that means this man who murdered his wife and decapitated her was not an abuser, which means we can all rest assured that he beheaded her in the most human manner possible.

QED.

Well, a properly done beheading has been a form of execution in ancient history. But as with the case of King Charles, a poorly done beheading is a gruesome atrocity even Alberto Gonzalez would call torture.

Yeah. I seriously doubt that even the most proper beheading (only one or two strokes of the axe, or whatever) is particularly painless. It seems like cutting across all those arteries, bones, and the spinal cord -- with all its nerve centers -- would hurt like hell. Even if only for a few seconds before you died.

Killing one's spouse is a long standing cultural tradition here in the US of A, he was probably just trying to fit in the best way he knew how.

I want to impregnate you.

Words fail.
If you disagree, think of it this way.

If you kick your dog, or put an uncomfortable chain on him, you're going to be convicted for animal abuse.
But if you kill your dog, nobody's gonna say a word - your dog, your choice.


Now, while the husband-wife relationship is a bit different from the man-dog one, the example above still shows what abuse is and what it isn't. It may be murder, but it's not abuse.

If you disagree, think of it this way.

If you kick your dog, or put an uncomfortable chain on him, you're going to be convicted for animal abuse.
But if you kill your dog, nobody's gonna say a word - your dog, your choice.


Now, while the husband-wife relationship is a bit different from the man-dog one, the example above still shows what abuse is and what it isn't. It may be murder, but it's not abuse.

Beheading her wasn't abuse? I see it as both things, abuse and murder.

Now, while the husband-wife relationship is a bit different from the man-dog one, the example above still shows what abuse is and what it isn't. It may be murder, but it's not abuse.

It's a form of "domestic violence", which I believe is technically abuse.

(Also a topic apparently too sensitive for us to head this thread off towards a series of nauseating decapitation-related puns. Pity.)

If you disagree, think of it this way.

If you kick your dog, or put an uncomfortable chain on him, you're going to be convicted for animal abuse.
But if you kill your dog, nobody's gonna say a word - your dog, your choice.

Actually, if you are found to be decapitating dogs in your home, you're going to face much more serious charges than if you kick your dog or put an "uncomfortable chain" on him.


Now, while the husband-wife relationship is a bit different from the man-dog one, the example above still shows what abuse is and what it isn't. It may be murder, but it's not abuse.
So if he just HIT her neck a whole bunch of times, that would be abuse. But if he chopped her neck in half with a blade, that's not abuse.

I suppose we should all be thankful that you acknowledge it "may be" murder.

Wait...what? Killing isn't a form of abuse? I think it just might qualify as cruel and inhumane mistreatment.

If you disagree, think of it this way.

If you kick your dog, or put an uncomfortable chain on him, you're going to be convicted for animal abuse.
But if you kill your dog, nobody's gonna say a word - your dog, your choice.


Now, while the husband-wife relationship is a bit different from the man-dog one, the example above still shows what abuse is and what it isn't. It may be murder, but it's not abuse.

Something can be two things at the same time.

Hitting someone in the head with an hors d'oeuvres platter at a fancy dress party is both assault and a serious breach of etiquette.

Oh, and just so we're all quite clear:

In New York state, here are some examples of what would be legally recognized as domestic abuse.

* Hurting you, your children, pets, family or friends
* Destroying your personal property or throwing things around
* Grabbing, pushing, hitting, punching, slapping, kicking, choking or biting you
* Forcing you to have sex
* Stopping you from taking medication or getting medical care
* Keeping you from eating, drinking or sleeping

Cutting off your head would qualify as "hurting you." It also would destroy your personal property, seeing as how your body belongs to you. It also would stop you from taking medication, getting medical care, eating, drinking, and sleeping.

Yes, I just had to make a post supporting the assertion that cutting your wife's head off counts as abuse. For more on this subject, see: examples of the staggering number of people who hate women.

Do you know this for sure? How many times have you been beheaded?
Haven't been, don't plan to.

I have beheaded a lot of livestock, however, and there are no discernible pain reactions that occur in other slaughter methods. Medically, beheading causes such a severe neural shock, rupturing medulla oblongata, that the brain immediately shuts down.



Yeah. I seriously doubt that even the most proper beheading (only one or two strokes of the axe, or whatever) is particularly painless. It seems like cutting across all those arteries, bones, and the spinal cord -- with all its nerve centers -- would hurt like hell. Even if only for a few seconds before you died.
More like for 0.001 of a second. Plus, remember, pain is felt by specialized cells; the nerves themselves don't feel pain, and neural damage pain is less acute. And as you chop off those sensors, there's less left to feel pain.

Compare that to an electric chair, which stops the heart, so the executed is still alive for a couple minutes, and not only alive, but with the whole neural system intact, until the brain dies of asphyxiation.

Of course, the best way is a shot with a supersonic (the faster, the better) bullet - there the hydrodynamic shock can instantly and completely destroy the brain.

Actually, if you are found to be decapitating dogs in your home, you're going to face much more serious charges than if you kick your dog or put an "uncomfortable chain" on him.
Only because decapitation is dirty and we don't like to look at it. But we're fine with it as long as we don't see it.

You can take your dog to a vet and have him euthanized (which is an injection of a drug paralyzing the muscles - causing asphyxiation, not a bit better than drowning your pet, but less hard on the eyes). So you can legally kill your pet, but not harm it nonlethally.


So if he just HIT her neck a whole bunch of times, that would be abuse. But if he chopped her neck in half with a blade, that's not abuse.
Yes. That's a homicide, not an abuse. He didn't abuse his authority as a husband, just quickly terminated her.


I suppose we should all be thankful that you acknowledge it "may be" murder.
Well, maybe she was cheating on him, and maybe his religious beliefs put him in a position where he had no choice. In some countries that wouldn't count as murder.

30% of the women killed in the U.S. each year will die at the hands of their husband or boyfriend. I fail to see how this is a "Muslim" problem.

I'm really disgusted at the turn this thread has taken.
The thread did not take a turn. It was aimed at bashing Muslims to begin with. Not sure the OP meant that, but still.

Aside from the horribleness of the crime, the thing that pisses me off about it is how perfectly it plays into the stereotype.

I wonder. Here in Italy, until about 40 years ago, the "delitto d'onore" - that is, homicide of the unfaithful partner (or allegedly unfaithful partner) - was held as a sort of a "lesser" homicide, because a man was "supposed" to "punish" the unfaithful woman to keep his honor as a "true man".

Humanity doesn't change too much in time and space.

Well, maybe she was cheating on him, and maybe his religious beliefs put him in a position where he had no choice. In some countries that wouldn't count as murder.

Maybe. Not this one though.

I wonder. Here in Italy, until about 40 years ago, the "delitto d'onore" - that is, homicide of the unfaithful partner (or allegedly unfaithful partner) - was held as a sort of a "lesser" homicide, because a man was "supposed" to "punish" the unfaithful woman to keep his honor as a "true man".

Humanity doesn't change too much in time and space.

it's been held in the US in the past that a spouse (almost always the husband) who finds the other in flagrente delicto and killed the partner, it would be "voluntary manslaughter" due to a "sudden inflaming of the passions" that prevented the required rational intent of murder.

Locked on request.