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And all those stoners say pot is harmless...
And god help you if you smoke pot and drink Mountain Dew.

Marijuana use may increase the risk of developing testicular cancer, in particular a more aggressive form of the disease, according to a U.S. study published on Monday.

The study of 369 Seattle-area men ages 18 to 44 with testicular cancer and 979 men in the same age bracket without the disease found that current marijuana users were 70 percent more likely to develop it compared to nonusers.

The risk appeared to be highest among men who had reported smoking marijuana for at least 10 years, used it more than once a week or started using it before age 18, the researchers wrote in the journal Cancer.

Stephen Schwartz of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, one of the researchers, said the study was the first to explore marijuana's possible association with testicular cancer.

"This is the first study to look at this question, and by itself is not definitive. And there's a lot more research that would have to be done in order to be more confident that marijuana use really is important in a man's risk of developing testicular cancer," Schwartz said in a telephone interview.

The study found the increased risk appeared to be in the form called nonseminoma testicular cancer. It accounts for 40 percent of cases and can be more aggressive and more difficult to treat, Schwartz said.

Experts are unsure about the causes of testicular cancer, which often strikes men in their 20s and 30s. The disease is seen more commonly in men who have had an undescended testicle or have a family history of testicular cancer.

The disease usually responds well to treatment and has a five-year survival rate of about 96 percent, according to the American Cancer Society.

About 8,000 men in the United States are diagnosed with testicular cancer per year, and there are about 140,000 U.S. men alive who have survived the disease, the group said.

The researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Chronic marijuana use also can have effects on the male reproductive system including decreased sperm quality, they said.

There's the article.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489866,00.html

And all those stoners say pot is harmless...
And god help you if you smoke pot and drink Mountain Dew.

Meh! Only the stupid ones, or the ill informed.

And all those stoners say pot is harmless...

There are people who say that ? I thought they said it is less harmful than e.g. smoking cigarettes or drinking copious amounts of alcohol ;)
Which is probably true.

So what, drinking copious amounts of Alcohol makes you grow new balls. So if you combine the two you'll be just fine.

There's the article.

Post whore...

More research is needed.

"The researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Chronic marijuana use also can have effects on the male reproductive system including decreased sperm quality, they said."

Chronic has to be defined as well.

Post whore...

I can't stand it when you don't post the article and I actually have to, you know, click a link to see what you're talking about. So, I fix it.

other side affects include: growing a ponytail, playing acoustic guitar and dating your daughter!

in b4 potheads turning this into a debate on legalization

So what, drinking copious amounts of Alcohol makes you grow new balls. So if you combine the two you'll be just fine.

this is the kind of forward thinking we need in law enforcement

I can't stand it when you don't post the article and I actually have to, you know, click a link to see what you're talking about.

why?

I can't stand it when you don't post the article and I actually have to, you know, click a link to see what you're talking about. So, I fix it.

You can't stand having to click your mouse button a second time?

You can't stand having to click your mouse button a second time?

Too much effort.

You can't stand having to click your mouse button a second time?

Must be a Mac user *nods:D

"This is the first study to look at this question, and by itself is not definitive. And there's a lot more research that would have to be done in order to be more confident that marijuana use really is important in a man's risk of developing testicular cancer," Schwartz said in a telephone interview.
Yadda, yadda, yadda.

other side affects include: growing a ponytail, playing acoustic guitar and dating your daughter!

in b4 potheads turning this into a debate on legalization



this is the kind of forward thinking we need in law enforcement



why?

Oh sh** was that your daughter ... I swear she said she was 19!

Must be a Mac user *nods:D

Win.

I can't stand it when you don't post the article and I actually have to, you know, click a link to see what you're talking about. So, I fix it.

I must say, I rather appreciate it. Sure, clicking the link isn't too bad, but it keeps me from opening another tab, which can really add up for me if I'm online for a while.

Must be a Mac user *nods:D

NEVER say those words again! Steve Jobs stole my idea way back when and has corrupted it into something cute and cuddly. The personal computer was my idea and his punk ass took it and turn it from a super-machine-of-death that would kill a target on command and turned it into something friendly and harmless.

Someday Steve, someday, I will have my revenge!

NEVER say those words again! Steve Jobs stole my idea way back when and has corrupted it into something cute and cuddly. The personal computer was my idea and his punk ass took it and turn it from a super-machine-of-death that would kill a target on command and turned it into something friendly and harmless.

Someday Steve, someday, I will have my revenge!

Chill man Prolog runs on a Mac, so you can still use it to program your own vicious human killing AI on whatever platform you like.

I must say, I rather appreciate it. Sure, clicking the link isn't too bad, but it keeps me from opening another tab, which can really add up for me if I'm online for a while.

have you thought about closing some? :p

I can't stand it when you don't post the article and I actually have to, you know, click a link to see what you're talking about. So, I fix it.

You are now one of my many gods.

I wish they would do marijuana studies with the use of a vaporizer.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489866,00.html

And all those stoners say pot is harmless...


Pot may not be harmless, but to put it in perspective, its probably more dangerous to cross the street to get your mail every day.

I can't stand it when you don't post the article and I actually have to, you know, click a link to see what you're talking about. So, I fix it.

Small note: it may be wise to not post the entire article. Would not want jolt to be sued for copyright infringement and such ;)
Otherwise: much obliged :D

have you thought about closing some? :p

Yes, but if I'm monitoring multiple forums/email accounts/threads/etc., then I'd have to close a tab I'm not done with, only to reopen it when I next want to check it, which is a lot of hassle. (And it gets rid of the visual reminder of that particular thing, and then I might forget about it and stop checking it!)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489866,00.html

And all those stoners say pot is harmless...
And god help you if you smoke pot and drink Mountain Dew.

Well of course, Mountain Dew is gross. I'll have a Crab Juice.

I don't get the connection with Mountain Dew. :confused:

considering as how OVER population is the problem. anything that reduces human fertility is a GOOD thing!

Before I start, I've never tried the stuff.

Speaking as a trained scientist there are several other facts that are needed in order to assess that article.

For a start, everybody dies of something.

Now that we've got that sorted, how many people die of this, and how many are treated and live ? Now what are the equivalent figures for tobacco related cancers adjusted for the number of users ?

In short, ok so the study tells me that starting to smoke pot before your gonads have finished maturing and continuing to do so on a regular basis for more than a decade increases your chances of exiting this world through a particularly unpleasant disease. But against that must be set the way you'd exit it if you had not smoked the stuff.

And that is not on the agenda of the people behind this report, is it ?

Doesn't marijuana provide benefits for people with Alzheimer's? I figure if you're suffering from that, a marginally higher risk of a rare testicular cancer is worth it. Of course, considering tobacco drastically increases your risk of lethal lung cancer it doesn't even provide any justification to keep it illegal.

Id have to see the methodology, the sample size looks small and cancers patients using pot to deal with chemo therapy might throw off the numbers.

And god help you if you smoke pot and drink Mountain Dew.


Well, since I do neither, how did I end up with testicular cancer in '07?

Faux news delivers.

But you seriously thought you could stop a thread related to pot degenerating into legalisation arguments?

Hah!

I wish they would do marijuana studies with the use of a vaporizer.

I wish I had a vapourizer.:(

...to smoke legal herbs of course.

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>_>

I thought this would be about someone robbing a sporting goods store.

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Well, since I do neither, how did I end up with testicular cancer in '07?

*shrug* Anybody can get cancer, smoking just makes it more likely. I hope you are better?

I wish I had a vapourizer.:(

...to smoke legal herbs of course.

<_<
>_>

My TIVO and my Volcano Vaporizer are my two favorite electric toys.

My TIVO and my Volcano Vaporizer are my two favorite electric toys.

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>.>

I'll let that one slide.

Well of course, Mountain Dew is gross. I'll have a Crab Juice.

How about some aloe vera?

I don't get the connection with Mountain Dew. :confused:

Studies have shown that the food coloring agent Yellow 5, which is mostly used in yellowish-green drinks like Mountain Dew, can be linked to a lower sperm count. Mountain Dew has a lot of Yellow 5 compared to other similarly-colored drinks.

Well, since I do neither, how did I end up with testicular cancer in '07?

Spectacularly poor luck?

My TIVO and my Volcano Vaporizer are my two favorite electric toys.

Third favorite? (http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~tenchi/japan/helvib2.jpg)

What's Mountain Dew got to do with it?

What's Mountain Dew got to do with it?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14497997&postcount=38

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14497997&postcount=38

Ah I see, serves me right for not reading threads thoroughly.

Now do you have any links to these studies?

And I was just speaking to a guy on MSN about this and he said Mountain Dew was meant to shrink your balls, don't know if he got it confused with your story or not.

Ah I see, serves me right for not reading threads thoroughly.

Now do you have any links to these studies?

And I was just speaking to a guy on MSN about this and he said Mountain Dew was meant to shrink your balls, don't know if he got it confused with your story or not.

There was a lot of speculation about shrinking balls, shrinking penises, lower sperm count, less effective sperm, etc. In the end I think the only one "confirmed" is the lower sperm count.

Can't find a link, but apparently Yellow 5 can also be linked to ADHD (http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/eat-safe/food-colorings-47020907).

There was a lot of speculation about shrinking balls, shrinking penises, lower sperm count, less effective sperm, etc. In the end I think the only one "confirmed" is the lower sperm count.

Can't find a link, but apparently Yellow 5 can also be linked to ADHD (http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/eat-safe/food-colorings-47020907).

Mmm, interesting, not that I know a lot about ADHD but aren't children born with it rather than developing it? I am not to sure about ADHD despite having it I suppose I just got distracted on other things whenever I started to look into it :tongue:

I am always amazed when I read about the amount of synthetic crap American companies put into their foods. As the article mentioned in the UK the colour comes from Strawberries but in the US they use Red40, it boggles the mind just how much shit chit they chuck in.

Mmm, interesting, not that I know a lot about ADHD but aren't children born with it rather than developing it? I am not to sure about ADHD despite having it I suppose I just got distracted on other things whenever I started to look into it :tongue:

It could be that kids who do not have the genetic disposition for ADHD are being diagnosed as having it because of the effects of the dyes? I dunno.

I am always amazed when I read about the amount of synthetic crap American companies put into their foods. As the article mentioned in the UK the colour comes from Strawberries but in the US they use Red40, it boggles the mind just how much shit chit they chuck in.

I don't pay much attention to ingredients and so on. Except the other day I found out what MSG stands for so now I look for that, and it's in a lot more stuff than you'd think.
But I drink a lot of Coke and I don't care what they put in it because it tastes amazing.

Meh. It's probably just that all the drinks with Yellow 5 also have inordinate amounts of sugar as well. I doubt it's actually a cause of ADHD.

It could be that kids who do not have the genetic disposition for ADHD are being diagnosed as having it because of the effects of the dyes? I dunno.

Yeah true, it did also talk about behavioural problems.

I don't pay much attention to ingredients and so on. Except the other day I found out what MSG stands for so now I look for that, and it's in a lot more stuff than you'd think.
But I drink a lot of Coke and I don't care what they put in it because it tastes amazing.

Yeah I know MSG is in quite a lot of stuff, though a lot of companies aren't using it as much anymore (at least in Australia), but my mum is allergic to it so when growing up it was something I didn't have much of.

If it is something that concerns you (and you may know about it already) but a lot of Chinese restaurants use MSG in their sauces and other dishes so you should ask them if they use it and what dishes, KFC also has it as part of the original recipe.

Yeah true, it did also talk about behavioural problems.



Yeah I know MSG is in quite a lot of stuff, though a lot of companies aren't using it as much anymore (at least in Australia), but my mum is allergic to it so when growing up it was something I didn't have much of.

If it is something that concerns you (and you may know about it already) but a lot of Chinese restaurants use MSG in their sauces and other dishes so you should ask them if they use it and what dishes, KFC also has it as part of the original recipe.

I don't care if KFC directly injects sexually transmitted bird SARS into their food, I'd still eat it.

I don't care if KFC directly injects sexually transmitted bird SARS into their food, I'd still eat it.

That's alright I'm just letting you know if you were trying to avoid it.

I don't care if KFC directly injects sexually transmitted bird SARS into their food, I'd still eat it.
That sounds dangerous. :P

I don't care if KFC directly injects sexually transmitted bird SARS into their food, I'd still eat it.
Supposedly they already have a dangerous amount of trans fat in it anyway. o.o

But you seriously thought you could stop a thread related to pot degenerating into legalisation arguments?


We just need to hijack it real quick before anyone can get out thier fearsome wall of text arguments that they wrote three years ago and saved for just this very opportunity. We'll start with stoner stories and go on from there.

Ok, let me start. This one time, I was combing my ponytail and playing my acoustic guitar when my daughter walked in and I was like "Woah, you're looking hot today...."

Supposedly they already have a dangerous amount of trans fat in it anyway. o.o

"Supposedly"...?

"Supposedly"...?
My sister has a nutrition degree, and she says that one serving of popcorn chicken has several times as much trans fat as is not recommended to eat in an entire day. o.o

*shrug* Anybody can get cancer, smoking just makes it more likely. I hope you are better?

Yeah, totally cured now.

I wish they would do marijuana studies with the use of a vaporizer.
They don't? o.o

Though yeah, I get tired of people talking about "smoking" marijuana, without taking into account that it can be consumed other ways.

the only thing I could find about the mountain dew thing was the shrinking penis is false. (http://www.snopes.com/medical/potables/mountaindew.asp)

It does say that there was no evidence of yellow dye effecting the male reproductive system.

the only thing I could find about the mountain dew thing was the shrinking penis is false. (http://www.snopes.com/medical/potables/mountaindew.asp)

It does say that there was no evidence of yellow dye effecting the male reproductive system.

It was a big deal years and years ago.