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So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

Amusingly, I would have reversed those.

OVERRATED: Every film.

UNDERRATED: Every film.

There. I just saved NSG a lot of time and effort.

Amusingly, I would have reversed those.

Why? Everyone is going on how great Star Wars is, when in reality, it's nothing more than several other action movies that they put out back in the 80s, 90s and today. The only difference is that IV-VI took place in space, and I-III was George Lucas trying to milk a dead cow.

However, while everyone loved the first Matrix film, they apparently hate Reloaded, and Revolutions. However, I actually like them mainly because of the in depth storyline, and the many subtle religious context. Personally I think people didn't like Reloaded and Revolution because it didn't have enough explosion in it.

OVERRATED: Every film.

UNDERRATED: Every film.

There. I just saved NSG a lot of time and effort.

No you didn't. :p

OVERRATED: Every film.

UNDERRATED: Every film.

There. I just saved NSG a lot of time and effort.

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No you didn't. :p

I know, I know.

I just can't stand "debates" about taste, especially here.

I know, I know.

I just can't stand "debates" about taste, especially here.

Hmm, you actually just gave me an idea for another thread. Thank you! *runs off gleefully*

Broken Flowers with Bill Murray was surprisingly good, I thought. Don't know how well received it was, but I'd never even heard of it.

I also thoroughly enjoyed Cabin Fever.

Hmm, you actually just gave me an idea for another thread. Thank you! *runs off gleefully*

May you continually suffer hosts of infinitesimal inconveniences at inopportune moments until you repent and atone. Nothing permanent or harmful, but mildly annoying, at exactly the worst times.

Nearly every film to win Best Picture at the Oscars is overrated.

...note: Nearly

Nearly every film to win Best Picture at the Oscars is overrated.

...note: Nearly

Well, by definition, surely?

Overrated: High-school musical.

Underrated: 3:10 to Yuma (Remake).

And Wilgrove, I have one response to you calling the Matrix Underrated:
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It's unliked for a reason.:D

Overrated: High-school musical.

Underrated: 3:10 to Yuma (Remake).

And Wilgrove, I have one response to you calling the Matrix Underrated:
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It's unliked for a reason.:D

lol, that's a cute strip. Seriously though, not every role call for the wide range of emotions, sometimes the role calls for someone who is always cool, calm, collected, etc.

Also, how could you not love Reloaded and Revolution since it has the two most awesome characters in it!

Smith

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The Merovingian

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The Matrix Reloaded and particularly Revolutions contained convulated, difficult to understand and dense philosophical dialogue in places, contrasted with often weak delivery and a distractingly complete lack of chemistry between Neo and Trinity.

I'm of the opinion that it would've worked much better as a novel than a film.

We get it, Wil, you LOVE The Matrix, all of it. There's really no need to defend your obsession. We all have them.

The Matrix Reloaded and particularly Revolutions contained convulated, difficult to understand and dense philosophical dialogue in places, contrasted with often weak delivery and a distractingly complete lack of chemistry between Neo and Trinity.

I'm of the opinion that it would've worked much better as a novel than a film.

Ok, what was confusing about the dialogue and storyline in Reloaded and Revolution?

We get it, Wil, you LOVE The Matrix, all of it. There's really no need to defend your obsession. We all have them.

I know I keep saying this, and I know people for some odd reason keep ignoring my advice, but you don't have to post in this thread if you don't like it. There are other threads to post in.

I'm starting to think that either people just like to bitch about nothing, or they're Masochist.

lol, that's a cute strip. Seriously though, not every role call for the wide range of emotions, sometimes the role calls for someone who is always cool, calm, collected, etc.

Also, how could you not love Reloaded and Revolution since it has the two most awesome characters in it!

Smith

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The Merovingian

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But Neo, the normal, everyday, computer nerd (Although, admittdly, he was in pretty deep with teh law) doesn't show any emotion. Maybe later, but even then, he shows no emotion! Agent Smith shows more emotion than him, and he's supposed to be a computer program! I'm not saying The Matrix is a bad movie, but it's not underrated. The last two were awful, and Keanu Reeves lack of acting ability really dulled Hugo Weavings brilliant part in them. It wasn't the only bad part about it, but it was certainly a major factor.

Edit: and the Merovingian sucked.

The Matrix Reloaded and particularly Revolutions contained convulated, difficult to understand and dense philosophical dialogue in places, contrasted with often weak delivery and a distractingly complete lack of chemistry between Neo and Trinity.

I'm of the opinion that it would've worked much better as a novel than a film.

You just had to, didn't you. Now look at what you did. You've made Wil attempt to defend the...aw, gah *suck-starts a shotgun*

Ok, what was confusing about the dialogue and storyline in Reloaded and Revolution?

It's not confusing to me, but it is convulated. A lot of the philosophical ramblings Smith goes on, particularly in the final battle with Neo, are quite dense. Don't forget the Architect. The first time I saw that scene, I got a headache.

Why? Everyone is going on how great Star Wars is, when in reality, it's nothing more than several other action movies that they put out back in the 80s, 90s and today. The only difference is that IV-VI took place in space, and I-III was George Lucas trying to milk a dead cow.


You, my friend, have discovered that Seinfeld is Unfunny (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny).


However, while everyone loved the first Matrix film, they apparently hate Reloaded, and Revolutions. However, I actually like them mainly because of the in depth storyline, and the many subtle religious context. Personally I think people didn't like Reloaded and Revolution because it didn't have enough explosion in it.

And I think that the Matrix trilogy ran into another trope entirely (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlebqmxtrir9bav?from=Main.WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic), especially in the sequels.

Anyway:
I think the public at large needs more exposure to Kurosawa's work. Sure, a bit slower paced than a lot of modern action movies and such, but excellent films. I finally got around to seeing Rashomon the other day, for example, and it was excellent. I mean, sure, a lot of film buffs love Kurosawa, but your typical person hasn't even heard of him. (And I am by no means a film buff, I just know a few.)

Why? Everyone is going on how great Star Wars is, when in reality, it's nothing more than several other action movies that they put out back in the 80s, 90s and today. The only difference is that IV-VI took place in space, and I-III was George Lucas trying to milk a dead cow.

However, while everyone loved the first Matrix film, they apparently hate Reloaded, and Revolutions. However, I actually like them mainly because of the in depth storyline, and the many subtle religious context. Personally I think people didn't like Reloaded and Revolution because it didn't have enough explosion in it.

So the gist of it is...if you don't like it and lots of other people do,it's overrated. And if you like it but lots of other people don't,it's underrated.

I actually thought that the last two Matrix movies had too much explosion. And frankly, the storyline took a nosedive with those two.

But Neo, the normal, everyday, computer nerd (Although, admittdly, he was in pretty deep with teh law) doesn't show any emotion. Maybe later, but even then, he shows no emotion! Agent Smith shows more emotion than him, and he's supposed to be a computer program! I'm not saying The Matrix is a bad movie, but it's not underrated. The last two were awful, and Keanu Reeves lack of acting ability really dulled Hugo Weavings brilliant part in them. It wasn't the only bad part about it, but it was certainly a major factor.

Edit: and the Merovingian sucked.

Hey, how did the Merv sucked? I mean granted the W Brothers didn't really give him or his wife any real depth, but cmon, he was like the mob boss of the Matrix! The most powerful exiled program inside the simulation! Maybe I just like how he's protrayed in MxO. *shrugs*

Eh, I just think that Neo was sussppose to be this cool, calm collected super hero who didn't let his emotions get the better of him (Yes yes I know, he did let choose love in The Architect's room, but you know what I mean.) At least we can agree on one thing, Hugo Weaving was perfect as Smith.

Oh god, I had no idea you were such a fanboy. I wish I hadn't said anything now.

It's not confusing to me, but it is convulated. A lot of the philosophical ramblings Smith goes on, particularly in the final battle with Neo, are quite dense. Don't forget the Architect. The first time I saw that scene, I got a headache.

Well I will agree you do have to watch the films more than once to get everything, yea you will be confused if you only see it one time. But I thought The Architect's scene was clear. Everything was controlled by the machines, even the human resistant movement in Zion, Hell even Zion was controlled by the machines. The illusion of choice created by those with power, for those without power ~The Merv.

Oh god, I had no idea you were such a fanboy. I wish I hadn't said anything now.

Just be glad I didn't add SAW to my list. *nods*

I liked the Matrix Trilogy too. *ducks flying shoes*

The illusion of choice created by those with power, for those without power ~The Merv.

Oh I get it now, the machines were actually just symbolic for the government and the resistance fighters were the common man!

Hmm, you actually just gave me an idea for another thread. Thank you! *runs off gleefully*

Intangelon, you son of a bitch

Hey, how did the Merv sucked? I mean granted the W Brothers didn't really give him or his wife any real depth, but cmon, he was like the mob boss of the Matrix! The most powerful exiled program inside the simulation! Maybe I just like how he's protrayed in MxO. *shrugs*

Eh, I just think that Neo was sussppose to be this cool, calm collected super hero who didn't let his emotions get the better of him (Yes yes I know, he did let choose love in The Architect's room, but you know what I mean.) At least we can agree on one thing, Hugo Weaving was perfect as Smith.

Yeah, Hugo Weaving was awesome. But it was completely dulled by the lifeless, not just emotionless, but lifeless, role played out by Reeves. And the Merovingian sucked because he put together all of these completely weird characters, went and cheated on his wife, acted surprised when she betrayed him, and kept her afterwords!

Yeah, Hugo Weaving was awesome. But it was completely dulled by the lifeless, not just emotionless, but lifeless, role played out by Reeves. And the Merovingian sucked because he put together all of these completely weird characters, went and cheated on his wife, acted surprised when she betrayed him, and kept her afterwords!

Maybe she liked power too?

...went and cheated on his wife, acted surprised when she betrayed him, and kept her afterwords!

More surprising since, theoretically, it happened many times before, since the purpose of Neo was to find the Keymaster, that happened previously as well since the Architect scene is repeated.

The problem with the Matrix was the 1st was too good for the 2nd and 3rd to resolve.

Maybe she liked power too?

If it was her decision, pardon me, but the Mervingian "ain't got no balls".:p

If it was her decision, pardon me, but the Mervingian "ain't got no balls".:p

COurse not, hes AI. :p

More surprising since, theoretically, it happened many times before, since the purpose of Neo was to find the Keymaster, that happened previously as well since the Architect scene is repeated.

The problem with the Matrix was the 1st was too good for the 2nd and 3rd to resolve.

That is true, the 2nd and 3rd one couldn't live up to the 1st one. However, The Architect (who I will now refer to as Archy) said there was five previous ones, he never said that everything played out exactly the same five times.

Overrated: The Lord of the Rings films. Oh, they're the peak of Holywood fantasy films, and I have watched them many times, but only the regular edition of The Fellowship of the Ring is maybe as great as its hype. The Extended Editions of the first two films mainly added length, while The Two Towers and The Return of the King were seriously flawed in terms of plot and story, with clumsy attempts at humor and needless alterations that dragged down the films.

Underrated: Star Wars Episode 2, Harry Potter 4.

Overrated: The Lord of the Rings films. Oh, they're the peak of Holywood fantasy films, and I have watched them many times, but only the regular edition of The Fellowship of the Ring is maybe as great as its hype. The Extended Editions of the first two films mainly added length, while The Two Towers and The Return of the King were seriously flawed in terms of plot and story, with clumsy attempts at humor and needless alterations that dragged down the films.

Underrated: Star Wars Episode 2, Harry Potter 4.

I didn't find the deviations to be too incredibly great or gaping in the LOTR movies. They weren't the greatest movies ever, but they really were good. And I laughed at the humor.:D

The last two Matrix films were essentially all the cool stuff they could think of jammed together. Which made them awesomely cool but not great films as such.

Underrated:
The Plague Dogs.

I thought it an excellent film but I've never heard anyone mention it. Possibly because it's Western Animation which is less cool than anime.

Oh!

Underrated: Reservoir dogs

Oh!

Underrated: Reservoir dogs

how the hell is Reservoir Dogs underrated? Every fanboy in the world goes on and on and on about that damn movie!
It's okay, but it is a total rip-off of other, better movies.

Speaking of RDogs reminds me of Harvey Keitel's magnum opus, "Bad Lieutenant" is terribly underrated. His best role ever.

And the Matrix is vastly overrated. It's nothing more than film and anime plagurism coupled with a latex obsession, a weak plot, dreadful acting, overwrought pathos and symbolism, bloated, pompous, self-indulgent and attempts to disappear up it's own anus in a gas cloud of smug pretentiousness and mysticism.
The only reason I can see for having 3 of them is that each one in turn was made to be so dire it was to make the preceeding one look good in comparison. Since the 1st was a steaming turd, credit to them for making the next so bad it made it look 1/2 decent. It must have taken some effort and doing to craft movies that bad that could polish that turd so well.


'M' is underrated. Peter Lorre is terribly underrated.


The original Halloween is underrated.


"Every which way but loose" is underrated. naw, just kidding though Clint Eastwood punching a monkey certainly rates.
and yes, I do know it's an ape, not a monkey

Underrated: Adaptations
Overrated: The Big Lebowski, Life of Brian, Napoleon Dynamite

Overrated: Titanic, Monty Python and the Holy Grail (just gets too annoying to watch) and ____ Movie (ie: Epic, Date, Disaster.. etc, THEY ALL SUCKED!)

Underrated: Forrest Gump, Clerks, Kill Bill (Vol. 1 & 2)

Vastly Underrated: Sin City

Vastly Overrated: Pulp Fiction

Overrated: The Godfather

Underrated: Serenity

Vastly Underrated: Ladder 49

So the gist of it is...if you don't like it and lots of other people do,it's overrated. And if you like it but lots of other people don't,it's underrated.

I think you've managed to hit the 'indy' mindset right on the head. The best possible outcome though, is if you like something that nobody else has ever heard of. Then you're King Hipster.

As for movies, I always thought Equilibrium was underrated. I'm also(I think)the only person in N. America who liked Daredevil or the first Incredible Hulk Val Lewton's films should reach a wider audience as well.

Overrated: Titanic

Underrated: Zodiac

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Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)
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Thank You!:salute:

So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

Im seriously considering trying to Kill you, lol...

I do not tolerate Insults to Star Wars.....and although the First Matrix is one of my favorite movies...the sequels sucked balls...

But, as per the topic...

Overrated: the Narnia Movies...Why would I want to sit through two hours of movie, just so they can put their weapons down when the lion shows up.....Lord of the Rings delivered, thats all im saying, lol...

Underrated: the Street Fighter movie....before you kill me...seriously, take away the Game Inaccuracies, and it was actually a pretty entertaining movie...okay, so it was for all the wrong reasons but still, lol...

So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy
Overrated - both of those. Esp the second and third Matrix films.

Underrated - View to a Kill.

I do not tolerate Insults to Star Wars...
The acting is dreadful, the plot is trite and the Ewoks are utter pish. And that's without getting into Eps 1-3.

Overrated: Godfather Trilogy, Star Wars films, 2001 A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Jaws, The Colour Purple..

Underrated: The Saragossa Manuscript, Time Bandits, Brazil. Cat People, The Leopard Man, The Fifth Element

So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

Star Wars IV revived cinema's interest in sci-fi flix, so without it we may have lacked investment into films such as Blade Runner.

The Matrix was also ground breaking, unfortunately all I remember about Matrix 2 & 3 was an underground community of teenagers at a left-wing rave party.

Can I also just through forward Pi - What a wonderful film.
Life of Brian can never be over rated in my eyes.
Being There - very under rated

I'll stop for now, before I get carried away

Overrated: The Dark Knight when Christian Bale was on-screen, Star wars 1-3

Underrated: Flushed Away, Hot Fuzz, Eastern Promises, Kung Pow

Don't be too proud of this thread you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

S... I remember about Matrix 2 & 3 was an underground community of teenagers at a left-wing rave party.


you bring politics to raves? Wow you guys must be fun...

Overrated: Oceans 11, 12, pi ... (only the new ones), Donnie Darko, napoleon dynamite, Sin City, Quantum of Solace ...

Underrated: The Royal Tanenbaums, Pi, Lolita, Battle for Haditha, Star Trek IV, Forbidden Planet (for the soundtrack), Bridge over the river Kwai ...

Don't be too proud of this thread you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.



you bring politics to raves? Wow you guys must be fun...

Overrated: Oceans 11, 12, pi ... (only the new ones), Donnie Darko, napoleon dynamite, Sin City, Quantum of Solace ...

Underrated: The Royal Tanenbaums, Pi, Lolita, Battle for Haditha, Star Trek IV, Forbidden Planet (for the soundtrack), Bridge over the river Kwai ...

Ocean's 11 (the new one) was brilliant, but 12 and 13 weren't that great. Sin City was wonderous. Forbidden Planet was most defiinately underrated.

OVERRATED: Every film.

UNDERRATED: Every film.

There. I just saved NSG a lot of time and effort.

^This.

Overrated: The Dark Knight when Christian Bale was on-screen, Star wars 1-3

I don't know, compared to the original Star Wars films Episodes 1-3 weren't exactly critically acclaimed. Though it would be hard for Episode 1 to ever be underrated.

On Christian Bale, I'm inclined to agree. The guy's ok, but he's not the ultimate actor that some people seem to think he is.

The acting is dreadful, the plot is trite and the Ewoks are utter pish. And that's without getting into Eps 1-3.

Perhaps quality of acting can be somewhat subjective, but I've never been bothered by the acting in the original Star Wars films. I think frankly that most of the characters are simple enough that you don't need a world-class actor to portray them effectively. As far as the plot is concerned, its not for the most part hugely original (farm boy grows up to find he has secret destiny to save the world/universe/etc.), though the twist of having the villain be the hero's father, changing the ultimate goal from killing to saving the villain, was an interesting spin.

Incidentally, I guess I'm pretty rare, even among Star Wars fans, in that the Ewoks don't greatly bother me. Of course, they could be seen as a beginning of the kiddifiying that ultimately gave us Jar-Jar, but in and of themselves I fail to see what was so bad about them.

I only have two overrated movies for you.

Gladiator, and Serenity.
*hiding now*

I don't know, compared to the original Star Wars films Episodes 1-3 weren't exactly critically acclaimed. Though it would be hard for Episode 1 to ever be underrated.

On Christian Bale, I'm inclined to agree. The guy's ok, but he's not the ultimate actor that some people seem to think he is.

Perhaps not critically acclaimed, but the general populace seems to like them too much.

And I loved Aaron Eckhart and Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight, but Bale is just not a brilliant actor, he annoyed me.

^This.

if only it were that easy.

Perhaps not critically acclaimed, but the general populace seems to like them too much.

And I loved Aaron Eckhart and Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight, but Bale is just not a brilliant actor, he annoyed me.

Well, I didn't really like Eckhart, but I don't know if that's me not liking the actor, or me not liking the character. Ledger was good of course, but if I wanted to name an underrated performance in that film, I'd say Garry Oldman as Commissioner Gordon.

if only it were that easy.

I'm brain-dead sir. Intangelon put it easy. *shrugs*

I'm brain-dead sir. Intangelon put it easy. *shrugs*

Shame that never works though.

Shame that never works though.

If you think so.

Star Wars IV revived cinema's interest in sci-fi flix, so without it we may have lacked investment into films such as Blade Runner.
I would call SW a sci-fi/sci-fan (science fantasy) mix.

ITT: people who don't seem to understand what overrated and underrated mean.

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

WTF? No. Just plain no.

The last two Matrix films were essentially all the cool stuff they could think of jammed together. Which made them awesomely cool but not great films as such.

Underrated:
The Plague Dogs.

I thought it an excellent film but I've never heard anyone mention it. Possibly because it's Western Animation which is less cool than anime.

Watership Down as well.

Oh!

Underrated: Reservoir dogs

Nope.

Underrated: Adaptations
Overrated: The Big Lebowski, Life of Brian, Napoleon Dynamite

Agreed.

ITT: people who don't seem to understand what overrated and underrated mean.

So true.

Underrated: Outland

I only have two overrated movies for you.

Gladiator, and Serenity.
*hiding now*

Oh yeah, can I say tv shows instead of films? If so, Firefly is VASTLY overrated. It was good, but it wasn't that good.

So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

I'd say they're both MASSIVELY overrated. Star Wars IV - VI have a nice story, but I - III are just run-of-the-mill Hollywood shit.
Matrix is a story that was old even back when I was born, and didn't get much more interesting since. Adding special effects couldn't quite mask that, either.

I think the Matrix trilogy is criminally OVERRATED.

Oh yeah, can I say tv shows instead of films? If so, Firefly is VASTLY overrated. It was good, but it wasn't that good.

The problem with Firefly is that it was presented poorly by FOX, cut off way too early, and went on to become a cult hit. In my experience, it's become more popular SINCE being pulled off the air. It's hard to watch something you consider brilliant or potentially brilliant while knowing that it only lasts one season. It breeds obsession and fanatic devotion, which is why it's pushed so much by fans. Nothing is ever quite as awesome as a fan tells you it is.

I also thoroughly enjoyed Cabin Fever.

Oh, I loved the family version of that film! :D

Overrated: any film in my DVD collection.
Underrated: Any film in my DVD collection.

but you don't have to post in this thread if you don't like it.

You asked us which films we thought were overrated. Don't whine when we say the films you like.

Overrated: Jaws, Casino Royale (the Daniel Craig one), Matrix Revolutions.

Underrated: Fearless, Matrix Reloaded.

Overrated:
Matrix Trilogy - Although I really liked the Smith character, the movies as a whole were completely unwatchable unless there was significant alcohol involved.

Underrated:
Idiocracy - poorly advertised, dismally watched, but one of the funniest films of modern times. The humor, while crass and crude, was underlain by a massive running joke of humanity getting dumber to an absurd degree, which, while can't be proven empirically, I have long suspected.

Overrated: E.T., Apollo 13, Gladiator

Underrated: The Land Before Time, Sunshine, Kingdom of Heaven (DC)

Underrated: Plan 9 from Outer Space, Waterworld, Battlefield Earth

Overrated: Citizen Kane, Schindler's List, Casablanca, Psycho

Waterworld

YES! I fucking love that film!

Overrated: I'm tempted to say The Dark Knight because it is so prevalent in the media lately. However, The Dark Knight didn't get an Oscar nod while Star Wars did, so my nominee for most overrated of all time is Star Wars (hilariously bad dialogue, terrible acting, some of the worst directing outside of the b-movie realm, and a thin plot).

Underrated: There's too many of these to really hone in on one.

Overrated: Akira, Wristcutters (some emo kid bitching about being dumped for an hour and a half?), the Dark Knight, V for Vendetta, kidulthood/adulthood

Underrated: Brotherhood, Spiderman II, Unbreakable

Underrated: Flushed Away

this is true that was a good movie

Underrated:
Idiocracy - poorly advertised, dismally watched, but one of the funniest films of modern times. The humor, while crass and crude, was underlain by a massive running joke of humanity getting dumber to an absurd degree, which, while can't be proven empirically, I have long suspected.

I'm sorry but what part of that "film" was funny instead of just boring and filled with acting that makes you angry?

I'm sorry but what part of that "film" was funny instead of just boring and filled with acting that makes you angry?

All of it.

Overrated: Akira...

I agree with you totally. I cannot understand how anime lovers get so enthusiastic about it. It's tedious, ugly and idiotic.

Francis Ford Coppola movies tend to be overrated. The Godfather movies are averagely good, at best. While I think Apocalypse Now is better, it unintentionally glorifies war and FFC gets the final scenes all wrong.

Underrated: Jim Jarmusch's Dead Man and, don't laugh, Star Wars 3 - the casting of Hayden Christensen was a disaster but, otherwise, the film is a visual orgasm.

Underrated anime: Porco Rosso. Miyazaki's best.

Overrated: V for Vendetta

I actually liked V for Vendetta. He liked classical music, which all good heroes and villains should.

I'm sorry but what part of that "film" was funny instead of just boring and filled with acting that makes you angry?

I think you didn't get the joke.

All of it.

I think you didn't get the joke.

here you just watch the whole movie without having to see Luke Wilson (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1597642154209383351)

I actually liked V for Vendetta. He liked classical music, which all good heroes and villains should.

don't get me wrong its not a bad film but its not the movie its made out to be either (I stumbled on a website dedicated to the prison autobiography today *shudders*)

its has seem real boring moments and mostly focuses on blowing up Parliament instead of some kind of attack on the new labour government

So the gist of it is...if you don't like it and lots of other people do,it's overrated. And if you like it but lots of other people don't,it's underrated.
I think you've managed to hit the 'indy' mindset right on the head. The best possible outcome though, is if you like something that nobody else has ever heard of. Then you're King Hipster.
Quoted for truth. Indie people are so wannabe anti-conformist, it makes me sick.

Overrated: Star wars 1-3

Underrated: Hot Fuzz
Right, so a trilogy of masterpieces that nearly singlehandedly revived the sci-fi genre is overrated, but a piece of tripe involving some kind of ridiculous plot about little old ladies being murderers is underrated?

Underrated:
Idiocracy - poorly advertised, dismally watched, but one of the funniest films of modern times. The humor, while crass and crude, was underlain by a massive running joke of humanity getting dumber to an absurd degree, which, while can't be proven empirically, I have long suspected.
I actually could not agree more with you. I finally saw this a few months ago with a buddy of mine, and now recommend it to almost everyone I meet.

Overrated: Reservoir Dogs, The Godfather movies, The Departed, the Narnia movies, crap indie movies like Juno, all Seth Rogen movies (why does anyone think he's funny? "lolol i smoke weed"), The Da Vinci Code (Tom Hanks was awful), most of the "Frat Pack" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frat_Pack) movies, Animal House
Underrated: Cloverfield, the Star Wars movies (obviously), In & Out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_&_Out) (surprisingly good), The Fifth Element, Clue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clue_(film)), all Kevin Smith movies, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (with Gene Wilder, not the shit one with Depp), all Mel Brooks movies, The Boondock Saints, old Jackie Chan movies, Big Fish, The Princess Bride

So what are some overrated and underrated movies ever made?

Overrated:
Star Wars (all of it)

Underrated:
The Matrix Trilogy

We get it Wilgrove, you like the Matrix. We got it the first time you said it.

Most Overrated - Napoleon Dynamite. It boggles my mind how that movie is even remotely popular.

Most Underrated - Equilibrium. since no one I know has ever even heard of it, even though it's awesome.

Shawshank Redemption. How I loathe that trite, overrated , sentimental nonsense.

Right, so a trilogy of masterpieces that nearly singlehandedly revived the sci-fi genre is overrated, but a piece of tripe involving some kind of ridiculous plot about little old ladies being murderers is underrated?

Svalbardania said Star Wars 1-3, not Star Wars 4 - 6. :D

Vastly Overrated: Pulp Fiction

Overrated: The Godfather

Underrated: Serenity

Vastly Underrated: Ladder 49

*shoots you in the back of the head, leaves with the Cannoli*

I hate these threads, they make me RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEE

I hate these threads, they make me RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEE

Your avatar disturbs me.

I think that's what we were using at GITMO to make them crack, only it was blown up into a 10'x10' poster and plastered on every wall.

Svalbardania said Star Wars 1-3, not Star Wars 4 - 6. :D
Well, I suppose it could be read either way, but you're probably right. My bad.

Most Underrated - Equilibrium. since no one I know has ever even heard of it, even though it's awesome.

I mentioned Equilibrium too. I saw that movie roughly 6-8 mos or so(I think) after I saw The Matrix and I have to say, the former was the better of the two.

Well, I suppose it could be read either way, but you're probably right. My bad.

Ya, that was what I meant, I loved the originals but not the new ones.

And Hot Fuzz was brilliant satire mixed with deliciously ballsy action. What's not to love?

Underrated:
Idiocracy - poorly advertised, dismally watched, but one of the funniest films of modern times. The humor, while crass and crude, was underlain by a massive running joke of humanity getting dumber to an absurd degree, which, while can't be proven empirically, I have long suspected.

I think you might enjoy "The Marching of Morons" by Cyril M. Kornbluth.



Overated:
Equilibrium- basicly Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" with martial arts.

Overrated: E.T.

I'll have to disagree with you on that. :mad:

If anything, I think E.T was the best sci-fi movie I've ever seen.

I thought Memento was overrated, very disappointed when I saw it

overrated: matrix. Starwars episodes 1-3.

Underrated: a clockwork orange, Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis

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However, while everyone loved the first Matrix film, they apparently hate Reloaded, and Revolutions. However, I actually like them mainly because of the in depth storyline, and the many subtle religious context. Personally I think people didn't like Reloaded and Revolution because it didn't have enough explosion in it.

Subtle? Yeah, like a sledgehammer!
While Matrix was interesting from a philosophical point of wiew and Reloaded from a graphical point of view (I liked the Wachowski's reasoning that now that everyone knew what the matrix was it become important to differentiate reality from virtual reality).
Revolution was so heavyly influenced by the "God sacrifices himself so that we can live in peace" religious motive that it couldn't have been missed by a blind/deaf viewer. And Deus ex machina resembling the sun in a baroque opera was the last nail on the coffin of this movie.

As an aside I remember setting the whole theatre laughing (small theatre and mainly my friends there, so no such feat) by commenting loud some parts of the movie (a little advantage I have being one of the few that don't have to read the subtitles of the movie).
Here's one i still remember:
"Can we do it Bob?" (Trinity as Tina)
"Yes Tina we can" (Neo as Bob the builder)

I know I'm going to pay for this, but...

Underrated: Pirates of the Carribean 1 and 3.

X-men 3. Speaking of which:

Overrated: X-men 2.

Most Underrated - Equilibrium. since no one I know has ever even heard of it, even though it's awesome.
Oh fuck off. It's dreadful.

Perhaps quality of acting can be somewhat subjective, but I've never been bothered by the acting in the original Star Wars films. I think frankly that most of the characters are simple enough that you don't need a world-class actor to portray them effectively.
So your defense to the acting being terrible is that the characters are rinse and dry cut-outs. Awesome.
As far as the plot is concerned, its not for the most part hugely original (farm boy grows up to find he has secret destiny to save the world/universe/etc.), though the twist of having the villain be the hero's father, changing the ultimate goal from killing to saving the villain, was an interesting spin.
Aye aye mildly clever twist but that's about it. Otherwise very done.
Incidentally, I guess I'm pretty rare, even among Star Wars fans, in that the Ewoks don't greatly bother me. Of course, they could be seen as a beginning of the kiddifiying that ultimately gave us Jar-Jar, but in and of themselves I fail to see what was so bad about them.
Oh lordy me. Fuzzy short things which 'hilariously' hit themselves in the heads with slings and shit. Eugh.

Oh fuck off. It's dreadful.
I wouldn't go that far. I've seen it. At least I think I've seen it. I definitely recall renting it from the video store and I remember sticking it in the machine but that's it. For some reason I think of the colour green when I think of this movie. Is this relevant?
So not particularly memorable. Indeed totally forgettable. Which means it can't have been dreadful as I, unfortunately, always remember the dreadful movies.

For some reason I think of the colour green when I think of this movie. Is this relevant?
Sort of. You might remember green featuring heavily in the Matrix, the fight scenes of which are basically ripped off in this film. It's like Children of Men without the charm, 1984 without the fear and Metropolis, but worse.

underated- San Demetiro London, 'Pimpernel' Smith ,The League of Gentlemam (1960)

This thread makes me sad.

So your defense to the acting being terrible is that the characters are rinse and dry cut-outs. Awesome.

Well, I'd prefer the term "archetypes.";)

Aye aye mildly clever twist but that's about it. Otherwise very done.

Well, just because something's been done before doesn't make it bad, especially if you can put a new twist on it. Frankly, the twist I referred to potentially changes the whole theme and moral perspective of the traditional good vs evil story.

Oh lordy me. Fuzzy short things which 'hilariously' hit themselves in the heads with slings and shit. Eugh.

They bother some people, they don't bother others. They're sure as hell a lot less stupid than Jar Jar. Though I realize that's not a great endorsement.:D