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I just watched Akira on cable, which has extremely impressed my movie critic socks off. I've seen every single Ghibili until the Spirited Away, but I've never seen anything quite like Akira.

Are there any other similar post-apocalyptic/dystopia sci-fi movie recommendations NSG anime geeks have to offer? Right now I'm interested in Elfen Lied, but I'm not too sure yet, because I heard that there's loli-porn in it :(

Akira was way too weird for me. o_O

Before the real otakus get on here, I'd recommend Ghost in the Shell -- both films plus the two Stand Alone Complex series.

Elfen Lied is only porn if you like a lot of blood and the mangled remains of what used to be human in your porn. There's nudity, but it's incidental, not erotic.
Try Evangelion, as it's trippy as shit.
Try Gurren Lagann, as it's epic as shit and pretty much the polar opposite of Eva (Eva is about vaginas and wombs, Gurren Lagann is about penises...and drills...and drilling).
Try Ghost in the Shell.
Code Geass

Those are all anime series, not movies, btw.

Princess Mononoke is pretty good.

The conqueror of Shamballa.
of course, you have to see the first 52 episodes of Full Metal Alchemist, but it is worth it.

Cowboy Bebop the movie.
Only 26 episodes in before this time. ,)

Can´t find movies for Trigun,Hellsing,etc.
But that does not mean you should not consider them. :D

Cowboy Bebop is really good, a sort of Scifi Western with a Jazz score.
There was also a series, which was good, but I don't think you'd have to watch one to enjoy the other.

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni and Ni Kai is an excellent anime.

La Blue Girl was interesting if you like ninja women. I also recommend Vampire Hunter D

La Blue Girl was interesting if you like ninja women. I also recommend Vampire Hunter D

Vampire Hunter D is one of those classics anime fans should always find time to watch. I also recommend Vampire Princess Miyu.

Violence Jack, why not

akira is a bit weird for me. the bit at the end freaks me out..... actually, the whole thing freaks me out, come to think of it...

Oh yes, Ghost in the Shell (the newer adaptations) are among the best anime ever made, imo, esp. Solid State Society. The thing is that you have to see the whole series from beginning to end to get the most out of it, otherwise it's just another set of cool looking anime designs flashing around.

And speaking of Vampire Hunter D, it's confusing because there is a newer anime movie which is different from the original mini series. I preferred the old version, which I think is a real classic of classics in anime.

To be honest though, there are tons and tons of anime series and movies that start off strong and disappoint towards the end. Then others that are the opposite but then wouldn't be worth watching the whole thing just for the ending, to most people.

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni and Ni Kai is an excellent anime.

Heh heh, got you hooked, didn't I?

But they're not sci-fi or cyberpunk or anything along those lines.

La Blue Girl was interesting if you like ninja women. I also recommend Vampire Hunter D

Ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha. Funny.

Heh heh, got you hooked, didn't I?

But they're not sci-fi or cyberpunk or anything along those lines.

:rolleyes:Well, if he's to get into anime, let him take a look at the good ones. Also he needs to have a well-rounded perspective of animes.

*shrugs*

Ranma 1/2 because everyone should be exposed to a story involving boy meets girl, boy turns into girl, boy has every girl engaged to him

:rolleyes:Well, if he's to get into anime, let him take a look at the good ones. Also he needs to have a well-rounded perspective of animes.

*shrugs*

I finally got the anime club here to watch Higurashi. They seemed like they were starting to lose interest until the first time Rena does the crazy eyes and yells LIAR in ep 2.

And then in ep 3 they were cutting up and being obnoxious, but that's neither here nor there.

I finally got the anime club here to watch Higurashi. They seemed like they were starting to lose interest until the first time Rena does the crazy eyes and yells LIAR in ep 2.

And then in ep 3 they were cutting up and being obnoxious, but that's neither here nor there.

It was just as you said. One is like, WTF! And then one watches the next ep and is all Oh, I get it now. Of course then you watch the 2nd season and are, once again, WTF! BUt it was a good anime.

how about Galaxy Express 999? One of my favs, and you won't really have to watch anything else to get the movie though I think there are incidentally related series (Harlock Saga, for one).

It was just as you said. One is like, WTF! And then one watches the next ep and is all Oh, I get it now. Of course then you watch the 2nd season and are, once again, WTF! BUt it was a good anime.

And then you finish season 2 and you're like OHHHHHHHH and then there's no WTF.

Edit: Except I just remembered the implications of this new not-higurashi series, and also some revelations I got from a friend who's played the games which explain a bit more.

I've read the synopsis of season 3, and apparently it's a fan-made story where it turns out it's all Rika's dream. And she wakes up. Apparently it was so good the producers jumped on it and decided to make a second season.

Also also, apparently there's another series coming out that is somewhat related to Higurashi: the blue-haired chick at the end of season 2 apparently isn't Rika, but a person from this series. It's complicated and would probably spoil some shyte for people who haven't seen it but you know...

how about Galaxy Express 999? One of my favs, and you won't really have to watch anything else to get the movie though I think there are incidentally related series (Harlock Saga, for one).

Nadesico is also a good choice.

And then you finish season 2 and you're like OHHHHHHHH and then there's no WTF.

I've read the synopsis of season 3, and apparently it's a fan-made story where it turns out it's all Rika's dream. And she wakes up. Apparently it was so good the producers jumped on it and decided to make a second season.

Also also, apparently there's another series coming out that is somewhat related to Higurashi: the blue-haired chick at the end of season 2 apparently isn't Rika, but a person from this series. It's complicated and would probably spoil some shyte for people who haven't seen it but you know...

Well, when it's all out, let me know and I'll watch it. I still have a soft spot for Ryuuguu Rena. And Hanyuu, so cute!

Also, for the OP: There are always the Gundam series, but I've never been a fan of those, except G Gundam and the only other person who actually likes G Gundam is the guy who wrote it, and even then he might not: I haven't actually talked to him.

Hmm...
The above mentioned Ghost in the Shell &
Neon Genesis Evangelion

I'd also recommend:
Bubblegum Crisis (The original, NOT the 2042 series)
AD Police Files
Patlabor The Movie 2
Darkside Blues (And if you can figure out what the hell is going on, please let me know)
Appleseed
Battle Angel (Very old school, VERY cool)

There's a few others I know, but they tend more towards comedy than Akira.

Also, for the OP: There are always the Gundam series, but I've never been a fan of those, except G Gundam and the only other person who actually likes G Gundam is the guy who wrote it, and even then he might not: I haven't actually talked to him.

I liked G Gundam. It was wacky.


The end of Big O was a major let down though.:(

I liked G Gundam. It was wacky.

I loved the stereotypes. Tequila Gundam? Windmill Gundam? Heh.

Thanks for the recommendations all, I'm going to be taking a trip to the vid store tonite :D. I reallly like the cyber punk style anime, but ones that are more plot and character oriented, rather than 30% shooting robots action.

Perfect Blue.

Battle Angel (Very old school, VERY cool)


The manga is better though.

I just watched Akira on cable, which has extremely impressed my movie critic socks off. I've seen every single Ghibili until the Spirited Away, but I've never seen anything quite like Akira.

Are there any other similar post-apocalyptic/dystopia sci-fi movie recommendations NSG anime geeks have to offer? Right now I'm interested in Elfen Lied, but I'm not too sure yet, because I heard that there's loli-porn in it :(
Since everyone forgot this was about movies on the first page, I will try to help.

There isn't alot like Akira. Actually probably nothing.
But for post-apocalyptic/dystopian stuff you can try Vampire Hunter D and VHD: Bloodlust, Ghost in the Shell, Knockin' On Heaven's Door (The Cowboy Bebop movie in English). Actually, I think all anime series are set in a post-apocalyptic world. Though I think you might like Escaflowne: The Movie and Evangelion.

And if you havn't seen anything since Spirited Away, you missed Howl's Moving Castle, which you shouldn't have. Did you catch Princess Mononoke?


The end of Big O was a major let down though.:(
Big O was like Batman. On LSD.

Big O was like Batman. On LSD.
That is actually a fantastic description. Damn good show, though. One of my favorites.

The manga is better though.
No argument here, but since we were being asked for anime and not manga... :tongue:

Thanks for the recommendations all, I'm going to be taking a trip to the vid store tonite :D. I reallly like the cyber punk style anime, but ones that are more plot and character oriented, rather than 30% shooting robots action.

Yeah, you really want Ghost in the Shell, Gurren Lagann, and a smidge of Eva (although Eva is some freaky shit, be warned).
Also a possibility is Black Heaven, which is about a guy who saves the earth from aliens with ROCK AND ROLL!
S-Cry-Ed, which all of three people actually like, is pretty good (clearly I am one of those three). They have have powers (Alters) and do cool shit with them, mostly fighting. Like one of the main characters who gets armor on his arm and punches the shyte out of stuff. And people.
You might possibly like Get Backers...It's less cyberpunk and more superpowers, but the plot (at least of first season, I've yet to finish second) revolves around a tower in which reality is manipulated in strange ways. That's vague, I know, but any more would spoil it. Main two characters are a guy who can fuck with your memory with his eyes and squeeze really hard with his fingers, and a guy who's like a human electric eel except more awesome.

I watched Akira at the cinemas when it was released in the 90s. It blew me away, but I had to watch it 3 times before I even remotely understood what was going on.

I just watched Akira on cable, which has extremely impressed my movie critic socks off. I've seen every single Ghibili until the Spirited Away, but I've never seen anything quite like Akira.

Are there any other similar post-apocalyptic/dystopia sci-fi movie recommendations NSG anime geeks have to offer? Right now I'm interested in Elfen Lied, but I'm not too sure yet, because I heard that there's loli-porn in it :(

Dystopian?
Vexille.
Legends of the Galactic Heroes (series)
Appleseed
Appleseed: Ex Machina
Vandredd (series)
Macross: Do you remember love
Blue Gender (series)
Trigun (series)
Those who hunt Elves (series)
Blood + (Series)
Madlax (series)

La Blue Girl was interesting if you like ninja women. I also recommend Vampire Hunter D yeah, awsome ninja half women/half demons. :rolleyes: :D

Hmm...
The above mentioned Ghost in the Shell &
Neon Genesis Evangelion

I'd also recommend:
Bubblegum Crisis (The original, NOT the 2042 series)
AD Police Files (the original, not the newer series.)
Patlabor The Movie 2 the first and third wasn't bad either
Darkside Blues (And if you can figure out what the hell is going on, please let me know)
Appleseed
Battle Angel (Very old school, VERY cool)

There's a few others I know, but they tend more towards comedy than Akira.

Anime, and Japanese so-called "culture" in general, has absolutely no redeeming value whatosever.

The Russians, the Germans, the Indians, the English, the Chinese, the Americans have all made huge contributions to the expanding of man's mind.

The Japanese just produce worthless, mindless trash.

It's a shame, because they make damn good electronics. But they can't tap into the human element of knowledge for the life of them.

I loved the Patlabor movies, particularly the second one. I like big robots, but I also hate shows where people just yell out their robot's big attack and proceed to battle with held cels and speed lines.

Princess Mononoke is beautiful, nearly to the point of tears for me. Whenever I watch it I actually feel enriched - maybe because the protagonist is genuinely GOOD. No attitude, no compromise.

I love the Lupin III films too, particularly Castle of Cagliostro and Twilight Gemini.

I just watched Akira on cable, which has extremely impressed my movie critic socks off. I've seen every single Ghibili until the Spirited Away, but I've never seen anything quite like Akira.
Read the manga!

It make sense!

Well, there's no anime for it, only manga, but try Battle Royal. It's my favorite manga. I warn you though, you'd better have a strong stomach.;) Elfen Lied is tame in comparison.

Anime, and Japanese so-called "culture" in general, has absolutely no redeeming value whatosever.

The Russians, the Germans, the Indians, the English, the Chinese, the Americans have all made huge contributions to the expanding of man's mind.

The Japanese just produce worthless, mindless trash.

It's a shame, because they make damn good electronics. But they can't tap into the human element of knowledge for the life of them.
Oh yeah, it's not like Japan wrote the first novel or produced highly acclaimed movies, developed two distinct forms of drama, tea ceremony, or made large strides in art, architecture, and landscaping or anything like that. :rolleyes:

Well, there's no anime for it, only manga, but try Battle Royal. It's my favorite manga. I warn you though, you'd better have a strong stomach.;) Elfen Lied is tame in comparison.
There is, however, a movie for Battle Royal.

There is, however, a movie for Battle Royal.
And it is quite good. Nifty action sequences and a villain (I mean that crazy guy with the fan) who was really cool.
The less said about that malicious abortion of a sequel, however, the better.

Anyone seen FLCL? Akira and Evangelion fans will probably appreciate it most. It's rather...ah, out there as well.

Anyone seen FLCL? Akira and Evangelion fans will probably appreciate it most. It's rather...ah, out there as well.
Out there doesn't even BEGIN to describe FLCL.

Hmm, you might want to add serial experiments lain as well, though that is more modern day.

Vampire Hunter D is one of those classics anime fans should always find time to watch. I also recommend Vampire Princess Miyu.

*Has a full set of Miyu, including OVA's*

Out there doesn't even BEGIN to describe FLCL.

Hmm, you might want to add serial experiments lain as well, though that is more modern day.

add Boogiepop Phantom. I loved that series.

Anyone seen FLCL? Akira and Evangelion fans will probably appreciate it most. It's rather...ah, out there as well.
FLCL was like LSD.
On LSD.

The only thing that made less sense than FLCL was Paranoia Agent.

I just started watching an anime called Moyashimon. It is pretty good, and sane compared to the likes of FLCL.



Would posting a link where you can watch anime online be advertizing and not allowed or related to thread?

Out there doesn't even BEGIN to describe FLCL.
I mean, it applies to FLCL in the same sort of sense that it applies to Akira: insufficient. I was just attempting to give a beginnings of context.

FLCL was like LSD.
On LSD.

The only thing that made less sense than FLCL was Paranoia Agent.
Something made less sense than FLCL? Wow, remind me never to watch it.

The only thing that made less sense than FLCL was Paranoia Agent.
Paranoia Agent made perfect sense. See, there was this guy who did a lot of math, and then this dog gets killed, but the two events aren't really connected in anyway. Or maybe they are. It happens twice, so that's enough for me. Anyway, then there's a demon that gets stronger when people believe in it, and there's also the episode that happens in a video game. And the evil kid who doesn't exist is opposed by the dog that he didn't kill which was made into a cartoon by the girl who started the whole thing. And then Japan is completely destroyed by black goo because everybody has a really bad day, but that's ok, because there is a guy with goggles that let him do...stuff.
Then everybody falls asleep.

It was a good show though.

Paranoia Agent made perfect sense. See, there was this guy who did a lot of math, and then this dog gets killed, but the two invents aren't really connected in anyway. And then there's a demon that gets stronger when people believe in it, and there's also this episode that happens in a video game. And the evil kid who doesn't exist is opposed by the dog that he didn't kill which was made into a cartoon by the girl who started the whole thing. And then Japan is completely destroyed by black goo because everybody has a really bad day, but that's ok, because there is a guy with goggles that let him do...stuff.
Then everybody falls asleep.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6201/yourheadasplodefe0.jpg

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It makes slightly more sense if you actually watch it rather than hear it described. Slightly.

Paranoia Agent made perfect sense. See, there was this guy who did a lot of math, and then this dog gets killed, but the two events aren't really connected in anyway. Or maybe they are. It happens twice, so that's enough for me. Anyway, then there's a demon that gets stronger when people believe in it, and there's also the episode that happens in a video game. And the evil kid who doesn't exist is opposed by the dog that he didn't kill which was made into a cartoon by the girl who started the whole thing. And then Japan is completely destroyed by black goo because everybody has a really bad day, but that's ok, because there is a guy with goggles that let him do...stuff.
Then everybody falls asleep.

It was a good show though.

That's a good description. I love Satoshi Kon stuff. Don't think they meet the requirements of the OP, though.

I would endorse other posters' recommendation of Ghost in the Shell.

I mean, it applies to FLCL in the same sort of sense that it applies to Akira: insufficient. I was just attempting to give a beginnings of context.
Ah, ok.

Something made less sense than FLCL? Wow, remind me never to watch it.
Try Urusei Yatsura 4: Lum the Forever. Even the anime company that brought it over to the US wouldn't take a crack at what the hell is going on in that movie.

Out there doesn't even BEGIN to describe FLCL.

Hmm, you might want to add serial experiments lain as well, though that is more modern day.

I forgot about Lain. That was good. Trippy, though. Alien suit? WTF?

FLCL was like LSD.
On LSD.

The only thing that made less sense than FLCL was Paranoia Agent.

I liked Paranoia Agent. First time I saw it they were doing it straight through in one night, and I was chilling with friends. So we saw the first episode, zoned out, and caught the last one. That was fun.

Something made less sense than FLCL? Wow, remind me never to watch it.

For even less sense than Paranoia Agent, try Potemayo or PPGZ.

If you want to see people being stylistically cut in half by katana for half an hour with no real plot to clutter up the killing, I recommend "Afro-samurai Resurection". If you don't, I recommend you stay far away anime for the rest of your life.

If you want to see people being stylistically cut in half by katana for half an hour with no real plot to clutter up the killing, I recommend "Afro-samurai Resurection". If you don't, I recommend you stay far away anime for the rest of your life.
My favorite part about Afro Samurai is that Sammy L. Jackson does a bunch of the voices. Badass. :cool:

My favorite part about Afro Samurai is that Sammy L. Jackson does a bunch of the voices. Badass. :cool:

Truly cool. Ressurection has Lucy Liu as well. Not to mention the prolific voice actor and all round nice guy Phil LaMarr.

Afro is really lame, I'd go with Champloo over Afro, Champloo had a better storyline.

Maybe you should try a little known anime called "Now and Then Here and There" that was pretty good. It's very serious and dark if that's what you are gearing more towards. It's a series about 11 or 13 (can't remember) episodes.

Maybe you should try a little known anime called "Now and Then Here and There" that was pretty good. It's very serious and dark if that's what you are gearing more towards. It's a series about 11 or 13 (can't remember) episodes.
I saw some of that. Dark and serious doesn't even begin to describe.
Here's a short list of things that you'll see within the first two or three episodes:
Child soldiers
Rape (the girl being raped seems to be quite young too. 15 or 16)
A pedophile warlord (he leads the aforementioned child soldiers)
Lots of dead children
Serial abductions
It is a somewhat good series (not one of my favorites), but you should know what you're getting into before you start.

I saw some of that. Dark and serious doesn't even begin to describe.
Here's a short list of things that you'll see within the first two or three episodes:
Child soldiers
Rape (the girl being raped seems to be quite young too. 15 or 16)
A pedophile warlord (he leads the aforementioned child soldiers)
Lots of dead children
Serial abductions
It is a somewhat good series (not one of my favorites), but you should know what you're getting into before you start.
Sounds like the O-Ren Ishii anime scene in Kill Bill.

I saw some of that. Dark and serious doesn't even begin to describe.
Here's a short list of things that you'll see within the first two or three episodes:
Child soldiers
Rape (the girl being raped seems to be quite young too. 15 or 16)
A pedophile warlord (he leads the aforementioned child soldiers)
Lots of dead children
Serial abductions
It is a somewhat good series (not one of my favorites), but you should know what you're getting into before you start.

Sounds like one of the story-arcs for Black Lagoon.

Anime, and Japanese so-called "culture" in general, has absolutely no redeeming value whatosever.

The Russians, the Germans, the Indians, the English, the Chinese, the Americans have all made huge contributions to the expanding of man's mind.

The Japanese just produce worthless, mindless trash.

It's a shame, because they make damn good electronics. But they can't tap into the human element of knowledge for the life of them.

"Miyazaki is one of the greatest filmmakers of our time and he has been a tremendous inspiration to generations of animators At Pixar, when we have a problem and we can't seem to solve it, we often look at one of his films in our screening room. Toy Story owes a huge debt of gratitude to the films of Mr. Miyazaki." John Lasseter (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005124/)

Also if you are looking for a cyber-punk anime that's more plot and character oriented you might want to try the .hack// Series (starting with .hack//SIGN or you can skip to the games) though I'm sure everyone here who knows about it will warn you against it because it's a "talkie" more than an action series, but it might be up your alley if you aren't looking for a shoot-em-up like most Sci-fi cyber-punk animes I've seen. .hack//SIGN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=605) (TV anime 26 episodes long) if you want to move onto the games right away because you don't want a "talkie" you can play .hack//Infection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.hack//Infection) for the PS2. You don't need to see the anime really to understand the game. But it helps a little.


Oh a nice little short anime is Voices of a Distant Star (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370754/) It really shows you what one guy on his Mac can do.

AHSblah, what anime is your AV from?

Also if you are looking for a cyber-punk anime that's more plot and character oriented you might want to try the .hack// Series (starting with .hack//SIGN or you can skip to the games) though I'm sure everyone here who knows about it will warn you against it because it's a "talkie" more than an action series, but it might be up your alley if you aren't looking for a shoot-em-up like most Sci-fi cyber-punk animes I've seen. .hack//SIGN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=605) (TV anime 26 episodes long) if you want to move onto the games right away because you don't want a "talkie" you can play .hack//Infection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.hack//Infection) for the PS2. You don't need to see the anime really to understand the game. But it helps a little.


Oh a nice little short anime is Voices of a Distant Star (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370754/) It really shows you what one guy on his Mac can do.




.Hack....My favorite part is when the old serious player saying something like "This party is the bomb diggity".:p

Kyouran Kazoku Nikki is also a good anime. Tsukuyomi MOON PHASE also is quite good.

Also if you are looking for a cyber-punk anime that's more plot and character oriented you might want to try the .hack// Series (starting with .hack//SIGN or you can skip to the games) though I'm sure everyone here who knows about it will warn you against it because it's a "talkie" more than an action series, but it might be up your alley if you aren't looking for a shoot-em-up like most Sci-fi cyber-punk animes I've seen. .hack//SIGN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=605) (TV anime 26 episodes long) if you want to move onto the games right away because you don't want a "talkie" you can play .hack//Infection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.hack//Infection) for the PS2. You don't need to see the anime really to understand the game. But it helps a little.
Good call here. :) I'm in the middle of the third game of the main .hack series right now, Outbreak.

Any recommendations for an anime TV series between 1 and 3 seasons long? I enjoyed Trigun, and I'm almost done watching Cowboy Bebop. I don't have time to watch all 354 episodes of <insert popular long-running anime here>

I just watched Akira on cable, which has extremely impressed my movie critic socks off. I've seen every single Ghibili until the Spirited Away, but I've never seen anything quite like Akira.
If you had those socks, you'd have had watched Akira long ago.


Are there any other similar post-apocalyptic/dystopia sci-fi movie recommendations NSG anime geeks have to offer?
Similar - well, Appleseed probably.

Better - a few.


Right now I'm interested in Elfen Lied, but I'm not too sure yet, because I heard that there's loli-porn in it :(
There's nothing else in it.

[threadjack] Any recommendations for an anime TV series between 1 and 3 seasons long?
Monster.

It may be not what you expect, but if you want a 73-ep long series, you won't get anything better. It's not about monsters really, the only monster there is an extraordinarily twisted antagonist. But it's great in nearly every way.

(Skip the last episode. It's just "what happened later..." and ruins the mood. Watch it a day later.)

You guys like watching Japanese cartoons directed at children? I would have thought grown-ups would have moved on to live action by now.

[/blatant trolling]

(More seriously though, while this is somewhat off-topic: why did anime gain such a large following, and so many serious and more "adult" films/shows? it couldn't have just been the porn.)

Any recommendations for an anime TV series between 1 and 3 seasons long? I enjoyed Trigun, and I'm almost done watching Cowboy Bebop. I don't have time to watch all 354 episodes of <insert popular long-running anime here>

Given the style of those two, perhaps you might like Full Metal Alchemist.

You guys like watching Japanese cartoons directed at children? I would have thought grown-ups would have moved on to live action by now.

[/blatant trolling]

(More seriously though, while this is somewhat off-topic: why did anime gain such a large following, and so many serious and more "adult" films/shows? it couldn't have just been the porn.)
Technically speaking, there are not more "adult" films or shows. Animation for children far, far outnumbers the stuff aimed at teens/adults here in Japan (though there is a good deal of family fare). It's just that the market in the US and the rest of the world has tended to be college age, probably because that is where the bulk of people first encountered it. Given that's the case, more of the serious stuff is brought over from Japan.

As to why anime story lines tend to be more serious... It's just the culture. The Japanese can be incredibly silly, but they have a history of writing very long, complex tales. Even the comedies can get very complicated very fast. They also like serials more than one-shots. My wife (who is Japanese) constantly complains of US TV because of the episodic nature of it. She says that means she can never really feel empathy with the characters because they never change or grow, unlike Japanese serials.

Technically speaking, there are not more "adult" films or shows. Animation for children far, far outnumbers the stuff aimed at teens/adults here in Japan (though there is a good deal of family fare). It's just that the market in the US and the rest of the world has tended to be college age, probably because that is where the bulk of people first encountered it. Given that's the case, more of the serious stuff is brought over from Japan.

As to why anime story lines tend to be more serious... It's just the culture. The Japanese can be incredibly silly, but they have a history of writing very long, complex tales. Even the comedies can get very complicated very fast. They also like serials more than one-shots. My wife (who is Japanese) constantly complains of US TV because of the episodic nature of it. She says that means she can never really feel empathy with the characters because they never change or grow, unlike Japanese serials.

Buy her the Buffy boxsets. :)

Buy her the Buffy boxsets. :)
I have been slowly weening her into sci-fi/horror. I've FINALLY got her to accept, not like, but at least accept Doctor Who. Buffy would take a while longer.

I have been slowly weening her into sci-fi/horror. I've FINALLY got her to accept, not like, but at least accept Doctor Who. Buffy would take a while longer.

Well, you can't deny that characters evolve, in Dr Who, certainly. Indeed, getting from season to season with the same actor in the lead role can be a special event. :)

But she should ultimately like Buffy (and, probably, DS9, too) if it's the 'changing and growing' that she likes.

"Miyazaki is one of the greatest filmmakers of our time and he has been a tremendous inspiration to generations of animators At Pixar, when we have a problem and we can't seem to solve it, we often look at one of his films in our screening room. Toy Story owes a huge debt of gratitude to the films of Mr. Miyazaki." John Lasseter (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005124/)

So Mr. Lasseter is an enemy of worthwhile culture...what's your point?

Anime, and Japanese so-called "culture" in general, has absolutely no redeeming value whatosever.

The Russians, the Germans, the Indians, the English, the Chinese, the Americans have all made huge contributions to the expanding of man's mind.

The Japanese just produce worthless, mindless trash.

It's a shame, because they make damn good electronics. But they can't tap into the human element of knowledge for the life of them.

Ah, yes. The new racism in practice. Just like the old one, but we're talking "culture" here, wink wink.

Bluth Corporation, you're allowed to have negative opinions of anime. You're allowed to have negative opinions of Japanese and Japanese culture.

What you're not allowed to do is simply repeat variations on "it's trash". That's trolling.

Either cite examples to back up your opinion and get a debate going, or go find a thread you're willing to contribute to.

Technically speaking, there are not more "adult" films or shows. Animation for children far, far outnumbers the stuff aimed at teens/adults here in Japan (though there is a good deal of family fare). It's just that the market in the US and the rest of the world has tended to be college age, probably because that is where the bulk of people first encountered it. Given that's the case, more of the serious stuff is brought over from Japan.

As to why anime story lines tend to be more serious... It's just the culture. The Japanese can be incredibly silly, but they have a history of writing very long, complex tales. Even the comedies can get very complicated very fast. They also like serials more than one-shots. My wife (who is Japanese) constantly complains of US TV because of the episodic nature of it. She says that means she can never really feel empathy with the characters because they never change or grow, unlike Japanese serials.

One of the reasons why I like the Avatar series. :D

Can't wait to get home. I got the full set for Megazone 23. all three/four parts! WOOT!!!