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Apparently, the Obama administration has threatened to withhold intelligence information from the UK if the UK reveals that a Guantanamo inmate was tortured.

Aren't you surprised that Obama is essentially trying to cover up a Bush activity? The original threat came from Bush, but it looks like Obama is content to let it continue.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article5661291.ece

The US has threatened to withhold intelligence from the UK if evidence of the alleged torture of a British resident held at Guantánamo Bay is made public.

Details of how the “terrorist” detainee was allegedly tortured — and what UK intelligence services knew about it — must remain secret because of the American threats, the High Court ruled yesterday.

Lord Justice Thomas and Mr Justice Lloyd Jones said lawyers for the Foreign Secretary had told them that the threat by the US still applied under President Obama. Oppostion MPs accused the Government of giving in to blackmail.

Alright then, Obama is the devil, you got me.. happy now, and I believed in change!

Do we seriously have to use the same trite title for every thread relating to Obama? Christ. Try something creative or informative.

Do we seriously have to use the same trite title for every thread relating to Obama? Christ. Try something creative or informative.

He's more likely to raise the dead and be give a licence to print money.

Hotwife, you've got a major league hardon for Obama don't you? I mean the most strident anti-Bush people here didn't make a thread for his every move.

Oh noes, if only we had voted for McCain! Woe! Woe are we! Soon the USA will be a Satanic terrorist Caliphate and Democracy(TM) and Freedom(TM) will be lost forever!

did you read what you quoted?

STILL APPLIED UNDER OBAMA

that means that the bush administration made the threat and the obama administration hasnt done anything about it.

wow 16 days and he hasnt undone every stupid thing that bush did. WHERE IS THE CHANGE?

In the spirit of change, I tried out a new recipe for blueberry corn muffins and they were delicious! :D

Hmmmm, why do this? To protect Bush? Because the method of torture was so vile and depraved that it would incense the entire Muslim world if revealed? Because Obamas just drank an entire bottle of whiskey and is dancing around the oval office screaming "Fuck the British" at the top of he's lungs? Anyone got a theory?

wow 16 days and he hasnt undone every stupid thing that bush did. WHERE IS THE CHANGE?

Oh. Ignore me then.

*Hides in corner*

Hmmmm, why do this? To protect Bush? Because the method of torture was so vile and depraved that it would incense the entire Muslim world if revealed? Because Obamas just drank an entire bottle of whiskey and is dancing around the oval office screaming "Fuck the British" at the top of he's lungs? Anyone got a theory?

Because one can't shovel 8 years of shit out of a stable in 2 weeks?

Hmmmm, why do this? To protect Bush? Because the method of torture was so vile and depraved that it would incense the entire Muslim world if revealed? Because Obamas just drank an entire bottle of whiskey and is dancing around the oval office screaming "Fuck the British" at the top of he's lungs? Anyone got a theory?

The reason why doesn't matter! All that matters is that Obama has been less than perfect, thus he is the worst president in the history of existence and will destroy reality as we know it.

Because one can't shovel 8 years of shit out of a stable in 2 weeks?

A Herculean task

A Herculean task

Maybe he ought divert a river. There's strong precedence that it'll work.

apparently, the obama administration has threatened to withhold intelligence information from the uk if the uk reveals that a guantanamo inmate was tortured.

Aren't you surprised that obama is essentially trying to cover up a bush activity? The original threat came from bush, but it looks like obama is content to let it continue.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article5661291.ece

omg 16 days and the sky isn't purple yet obama you lied!!!!!

Weird. I don't think the US ever threatened Germany (Or Italy) with the same when their respective courts & media made simialr evidence, well... Public.

Maybe he ought divert a river. There's strong precedence that it'll work.

Or at least kill a Hydra.

Good lord. How many of these threads are we going to be subjected to?

A Herculean task

Indeed.

Good lord. How many of these threads are we going to be subjected to?

One an hour for the next eight years, god willing.

Good lord. How many of these threads are we going to be subjected to?

One for every time Obama doesn't turn the sky purple.

One for every time Obama doesn't turn the sky purple.

Roughly 13.29 per day on average.

One thing that hasn't changed since Obama has taken office is the sweet sweet flavor of Republican tears of frustration.

Conservatives are still whining about stupid bullshit!

WHERE'S THE CHANGE OBAMA?!?!?!

One thing that hasn't changed since Obama has taken office is the sweet sweet flavor of Republican tears of frustration.

Well, YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU should have complained more during the Bush admin. "You fatcats didn't finish your plankton... now its mine!"

One thing that hasn't changed since Obama has taken office is the sweet sweet flavor of Republican tears of frustration.

Thank God.

did you read what you quoted?

dk...still a troll

WHERE'S THE CHANGE, etc.

dk...still a troll

WHERE'S THE CHANGE, etc.

I fail to see how it's trolling, unless criticism of Obama is considered trolling.

And I didn't promise any change.

I fail to see how it's trolling, unless criticism of Obama is considered trolling.

your long-standing utter inability to accurately represent facts was on display again

your long-standing utter inability to accurately represent facts was on display again

Like a short bus kid with his fly down, we saw it all, again. Also we didn't really want to.

your long-standing utter inability to accurately represent facts was on display again

You'll notice the OP is factual.

You'll notice the OP is factually misrepresnted.

Fixed.

You'll notice the OP is factual.

And, within 10 posts, was shown to not say what you thought/wanted it to say.

OMG IT WASNT MCCAIN WHO WOULD BE BUSH'S THIRD TERM IT WAS OBAMA!!!!!11!1!!1!



wow 16 days and he hasnt undone every stupid thing that bush did. WHERE IS THE CHANGE?

This.

And, within 10 posts, was shown to not say what you thought/wanted it to say.

This happens to every single one of DK's sources.

You'll notice the OP is factual.

*nods* It is indeed factual.


What you claim, however, is not.

This happens to every single one of DK's sources.

Oh, don't I know it. If there's some leeway, he'll try to put in a personal anecdote about how we're all wrong. Then he'll leave, and post something similar within the week. Usually within the hour.

Hasn't changed much since DK Original.

You'll notice the OP is factual.

Factual, but misleading.

Let me see if I have this straight, Obama is a bum because in the first few weeks of office, with two wars and a potentially disastrous financial situation inherited from a Conservative Republican asshole, he hasn't gotten around to undoing ALL of the mistakes of that Conservative Republican asshole.

Sure, that makes a load of sense. I guess we should have elected another Conservative Republican asshole so he could screw up even more stuff huh?

Factual, but misleading.

Let me see if I have this straight, Obama is a bum because in the first few weeks of office, with two wars and a potentially disastrous financial situation inherited from a Conservative Republican asshole, he hasn't gotten around to undoing ALL of the mistakes of that Conservative Republican asshole.

Sure, that makes a load of sense. I guess we should have elected another Conservative Republican asshole so he could screw up even more stuff huh?

I like this guy.

Maybe he ought divert a river. There's strong precedence that it'll work.

If the White House gets relocated to New Orleans, then yeah he could.

:D

A Herculean task

*Claps hands* Barack-u-les! Barack-u-les! Barack-u-les!

did you read what you quoted?

STILL APPLIED UNDER OBAMA

that means that the bush administration made the threat and the obama administration hasnt done anything about it.

wow 16 days and he hasnt undone every stupid thing that bush did. WHERE IS THE CHANGE?

Wait, wait. So DK got burned by not reading his own article AGAIN?!

Wait, wait. So DK got burned by not reading his own article AGAIN?!

See? Kimchi proves just how spectacularly No Child Left Behind works.

Wait, wait. So DK got burned by not reading his own article AGAIN?!

I doubt it. If that were the case, he'd occasionally get it right by chance. He probably does read them and then misrepresents them.

Wait, wait. So DK got burned by not reading his own article AGAIN?!

maybe the change we want comes in 2012?

In the spirit of change, I tried out a new recipe for blueberry corn muffins and they were delicious! :D
I congratulate you for the spirit shown in this endeavor.
Because one can't shovel 8 years of shit out of a stable in 2 weeks?
It's easier to burn down the stable and rebuild it...
*Claps hands* Barack-u-les! Barack-u-les! Barack-u-les!
Hey, that's a good one! :hail:

DK reading his own source and being intellectually honest.

Thats change that I can believe in.

maybe the change we want comes in 2012?

Well, it should be an amusing 3 years then. :D

Hotwife, you've got a major league hardon for Obama don't you? I mean the most strident anti-Bush people here didn't make a thread for his every move.

err... yes they did. :D

Weird. I don't think the US ever threatened Germany (Or Italy) with the same when their respective courts & media made simialr evidence, well... Public.

Perhaps they're more worried about the response from the Muslim community in the UK than elsewhere.

Because the method of torture was so vile and depraved that it would incense the entire Muslim world if revealed?

Probably not specifically, but lethal riots started over a cartoon, and I'm guessing that's what this is aimed at avoiding.

...and again, this is assuming that Obama is OK with the idea, and not that he simply hasn't gotten around to fixing it yet, which I personally think is the case.

Because Obamas just drank an entire bottle of whiskey and is dancing around the oval office screaming "Fuck the British" at the top of he's lungs?

I like this idea more. :tongue:

Wait, wait. So DK got burned by not reading his own article AGAIN?!

I'm kinda of two minds on this.

One... there should be change in this...

Two... it's soo much fun when it's the status quo! :D

*Claps hands* Barack-u-les! Barack-u-les! Barack-u-les!

I'M BARACKULUS!



Wait, wait. So DK got burned by not reading his own article AGAIN?!

Isn't that Obama's fault?

Isn't that Obama's fault?

It is! You see, "Change you can believe in" applies to all "you," including DK. So if DK declares he doesn't believe in the change, that is proof that Obama lied during his campaign.

And if he's willing to lie about that, what else is he hiding? Impeachment!
Fort Sumter!

I'M BARACKULUS!

No, I'm Barackulus!

I'M BARACKULUS!

BA Barackus?

DK reading his own source and being intellectually honest.

Thats change that I can believe in.


Drugs will do that to you. Quit now. For the children.

For the children.
Maybe its because youre Irish, but when you say that, for some reason I imagine it being said with Bono's voice. :p

No, I'm Barackulus!

No, I'm Barackulus!!

So if McCain had done this, how many Generalites would be complaining?

So if McCain had done this, how many Generalites would be complaining?

Odds are I wouldn't of noticed. I tend to burn out on political crap after an election.

So if McCain had done this, how many Generalites would be complaining?

... none? because everyone will assume McCain was just Bush III.

... none? because everyone will assume McCain was just Bush III.

I doubt many would try and defend/justify it, or attack the poster of the thread.

I doubt many would try and defend/justify it, or attack the poster of the thread.

Firstly, if McCain had, in the first few weeks, been making progress in other areas, done things like order the end of torture and the closing of the detention facility at Guantanamo, and simply hadn't gotten around to ending some of Shrub's policies (but hadn't actively pursued them), I would be quite happy.

But even if that was not the case, it's fallacious to say "well you'd be doing this too were the situation reversed, so it's valid to criticize him for this."

This happens to every single one of DK's sources.
sometimes i wonder if DK isnt some kind of test-bot whose purpose is to get us to check out sources.

Factual, but misleading.

Let me see if I have this straight, Obama is a bum because in the first few weeks of office, with two wars and a potentially disastrous financial situation inherited from a Conservative Republican asshole, he hasn't gotten around to undoing ALL of the mistakes of that Conservative Republican asshole.

Sure, that makes a load of sense. I guess we should have elected another Conservative Republican asshole so he could screw up even more stuff huh?

I love it when new guys argue well! :D