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A Womb With a View

SaintB
05-02-2009, 13:54
This is a thread about clones... the silly things about clones. What weird things have you always wondered about when it comes to human cloning?

On that has always had me baffled is: If you have clones of yourself do you refer to your clones as us and we? Or I's and mes?

And of course the always famous: If you have sex with you clone is it masturbation?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 13:55
*rolls around the floor, laughing her ass off*
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 13:56
"Bring on the clones...there have to be clones"
Call to power
05-02-2009, 13:59
What weird things have you always wondered about when it comes to human cloning?

is it cheating if I sleep with my partners clone? (identical twins >.>)
Barringtonia
05-02-2009, 14:00
It would be nice to have snap on covers for your stomach, kind of like the ability to change mobile phone covers, it would be nice to have a transparent view of your stomach once in a while, or a pattern design.

That's what I thought on seeing the 'Womb with a View' header, the idea of a see-through stomach so you could see the baby, probably burn its eyes out with the light but still, nifty idea.

I have no opinion on clones
I have no opinion on clones
Galloism
05-02-2009, 14:00
I want to clone myself, and then have an all-out paintball competition between us.
Call to power
05-02-2009, 14:02
It would be nice to have snap on covers for your stomach, kind of like the ability to change mobile phone covers, it would be nice to have a transparent view of your stomach once in a while, or a pattern design.

That's what I thought on seeing the 'Womb with a View' header, the idea of a see-through stomach so you could see the baby, probably burn its eyes out with the light but still, nifty idea.

I have no opinion on clones
I have no opinion on clones
Barringtonia
05-02-2009, 14:03
It would be nice to have snap on covers for your stomach, kind of like the ability to change mobile phone covers, it would be nice to have a transparent view of your stomach once in a while, or a pattern design.

That's what I thought on seeing the 'Womb with a View' header, the idea of a see-through stomach so you could see the baby, probably burn its eyes out with the light but still, nifty idea.

I have no opinion on clones
I have no opinion on clones

It would be nice to have snap on covers for your stomach, kind of like the ability to change mobile phone covers, it would be nice to have a transparent view of your stomach once in a while, or a pattern design.

That's what I thought on seeing the 'Womb with a View' header, the idea of a see-through stomach so you could see the baby, probably burn its eyes out with the light but still, nifty idea.

I have no opinion on clones
I have no opinion on clones
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:04
I want to clone myself, and then have an all-out paintball competition between us.

Or is it me?
Galloism
05-02-2009, 14:05
Or is it me?

Well, the competition would clearly be between mes.
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:08
Well, the competition would clearly be between mes.

I'd have two teams, I's versus Mes.
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 14:09
What if you didn't get on?
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:12
What if you didn't get on?

For the purposes of this mental exercise we all have at least one clone.
DrunkenDove
05-02-2009, 14:17
One of me is already far too much.
Neo Art
05-02-2009, 14:17
On that has always had me baffled is: If you have clones of yourself do you refer to your clones as us and we? Or I's and mes?

I think "I" and "he" would work. My fault Paul doesn't call his identical twin mike "me"

And of course the always famous: If you have sex with you clone is it masturbation?

No, but it's arguably incest.
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 14:20
For the purposes of this mental exercise we all have at least one clone.

What I meant was if you had a clone of yourself made and you found you didn't like them as a person.
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:21
I think "I" and "he" would work. My fault Paul doesn't call his identical twin mike "me"

Perhaps, but I think referring to my collection of my selves as I's would be more amusing for all involved.



No, but it's arguably incest.

Darn.


Since I have you here, what do you think the legal status of a clone would be? Would they be able to vote? Could they marry?
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:22
What I meant was if you had a clone of yourself made and you found you didn't like them as a person.

Hmmm.. wow...
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 14:27
Hmmm.. wow...

The people capable of annoying me the most are my closest relatives.
Dumb Ideologies
05-02-2009, 14:29
On that has always had me baffled is: If you have clones of yourself do you refer to your clones as us and we? Or I's and mes?

I'd refer to my clones as 'spare body parts for harvesting', tbh.
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:29
The people capable of annoying me the most are my closest relatives.

Oh I see... lets wait for our resident law expert to come up with an opinion on the legal status of clones, maybe you could chop yourself up for fertilizer or something depending on some things.
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:30
I'd refer to my clones as 'spare body parts for harvesting', tbh.

Like in The Island?
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 14:31
Like in The Island?

Spares by Michael Marshall Smith is a much better take on it.
Dumb Ideologies
05-02-2009, 14:33
Like in The Island?

Spares by Michael Marshall Smith is a much better take on it.

*nods and pretends to have the slightest clue what these things are (books? films?) that you are talking about.*
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 14:35
*nods and pretends to have the slightest clue what these things are (books? films?) that you are talking about.*

The Island is a film with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson, it was slated but isn't that bad.

Spares is a book
Rambhutan
05-02-2009, 14:36
Anyway why isn't there a tv programme where we get to watch identical twins fighting each other?
Dumb Ideologies
05-02-2009, 14:37
The Island is a film with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson, it was slated but isn't that bad.

Spares is a book

Aha. Thanks. That film does ring a bell with the extra details provided

...hang on, I mean...no..I knew all that, really, I was just testing you :$
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:38
*nods and pretends to have the slightest clue what these things are (books? films?) that you are talking about.*

The Island is a film, Spares is a book. (Well I think Spares is a book)
Neo Art
05-02-2009, 14:38
Since I have you here, what do you think the legal status of a clone would be? Would they be able to vote? Could they marry?

I don't see any reason why the wouldn't be considered a legal person.
Neo Art
05-02-2009, 14:41
The island is a movie, the plot is basically this:

Futuristic subterranian city. People are told they are the survivors of the end of the world. Occassionally new people enter the city, being "found" on the outside. Appear to be basically children, even if full grown, told this is the effet of being out in the outside.

Occassional lottery is held, the winners are told they are sent to "the island", a paradise, and the last habitable place in the outside world. Turn out, whole city is a city of clones, bought by rich people to have spare body parts. When someone wins the lottery to go to the island, in reality it means that the client needs his/her clone for replacement organs.
Dumb Ideologies
05-02-2009, 14:41
Since I have you here, what do you think the legal status of a clone would be? Would they be able to vote? Could they marry?

I don't see any reason why the wouldn't be considered a legal person.

I'd have thought their natural legal status would be "target practice". But I suppose 'dem pesky liberals would have a fit about that.
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:43
I don't see any reason why the wouldn't be considered a legal person.

Sorry Rhambhuton, no chopping them up with a woodchipper :(.

And I can't give mine weapons and make them fight to the death in a gladiatorial arena.
Khadgar
05-02-2009, 14:50
No, but it's arguably incest.

It you can't keep it in your pants at least keep it in the family.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-02-2009, 14:51
If you clone a clown, are they Clown Clones or Clone Clowns?
SaintB
05-02-2009, 14:55
If you clone a clown, are they Clown Clones or Clone Clowns?

I don't know... that enough to make me want to throw a pie at someone though.
Der Teutoniker
05-02-2009, 15:00
Sorry Rhambhuton, no chopping them up with a woodchipper :(.

And I can't give mine weapons and make them fight to the death in a gladiatorial arena.

So what your saying is (and I think I agree with you) that clones should be kind of like property? I would use the word 'slaves' but then too many people would take it more like the American version of racial slavery, which it isn't. People of all races are equal, but the people of those people (clones) are not! :p
SaintB
05-02-2009, 15:02
So what your saying is (and I think I agree with you) that clones should be kind of like property? I would use the word 'slaves' but then too many people would take it more like the American version of racial slavery, which it isn't. People of all races are equal, but the people of those people (clones) are not! :p

No I was more or less saying it would be fun :p.
Ferrous Oxide
05-02-2009, 15:04
Cloning would be brilliant, wouldn't it? You'd have something like a person, but it's an object! We could restart the slave trade! You could get agriculture work for free! You'd be able to buy pleasure slave copies of famous celebrities! Think of the possibilities!
Lunatic Goofballs
05-02-2009, 15:04
I don't know... that enough to make me want to throw a pie at someone though.

Air does the same thing to me.
Dumb Ideologies
05-02-2009, 15:06
It you can't keep it in your pants at least keep it in the family.

I can imagine already the campaign by those in love with themselves to make relationships with their clones legal.

All the liberals will really come into their own supporting that.

Yes. I went there.
Bywhan
05-02-2009, 15:11
So if you kill a clone is it murder or destruction of property?
Ferrous Oxide
05-02-2009, 15:12
So if you kill a clone is it murder or destruction of property?

Grand destruction of property.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-02-2009, 15:16
If I ever have clones, they'll get their brains scrambled. The last thing I need is myself to give me lip when all I really want is someone to do menial labor and/or take a bullet for me.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-02-2009, 15:17
If you killed and ate your clone, would it be cannibalism, self-cannibalism or reabsorption?

Do clown clones(or clone clowns) taste funny?
Bokkiwokki
05-02-2009, 15:20
If you clone a clown, are they Clown Clones or Clone Clowns?

Clownes.
Bokkiwokki
05-02-2009, 15:21
If you killed and ate your clone, would it be cannibalism, self-cannibalism or reabsorption?

"A part of me is dying (another part is dining)..."

"This hurts me more than it hurts me."

"You can have your clone and eat it."
SaintB
05-02-2009, 15:22
If you killed and ate your clone, would it be cannibalism, self-cannibalism or reabsorption?

Do clown clones(or clone clowns) taste funny?

1. I'd have to say re-absorption
2. Yes.
Hotwife
05-02-2009, 15:26
I would think that a clone would be legally the same as an identical twin.

An identical twin is a naturally occurring clone.
Ashmoria
05-02-2009, 15:29
This is a thread about clones... the silly things about clones. What weird things have you always wondered about when it comes to human cloning?

On that has always had me baffled is: If you have clones of yourself do you refer to your clones as us and we? Or I's and mes?

And of course the always famous: If you have sex with you clone is it masturbation?
is it legal to force your clone to diet and exercise so you can send her to your highschool reunion in your place?
SaintB
05-02-2009, 15:34
is it legal to force your clone to diet and exercise so you can send her to your highschool reunion in your place?

I don't see why not.
Risottia
05-02-2009, 15:37
On that has always had me baffled is: If you have clones of yourself do you refer to your clones as us and we? Or I's and mes?


I already refer to myself as We, sometimes (plurale maiestatis rules!). Maybe "WeI"?

Anyway I'd guess the plural of "I" would be "Is", without apostrophe. "I's" is the genitive form...


And of course the always famous: If you have sex with you clone is it masturbation?

It depends on what parts of me and of my clones are engaged. :p
SaintB
05-02-2009, 16:51
If you got drafted could you send your clone instead?
Ashmoria
05-02-2009, 17:22
If you got drafted could you send your clone instead?
hell yeah.

oooo if i rob a bank can they convict my clone of the crime?
Saige Dragon
05-02-2009, 17:42
Woah, slow down here people. What kind of cloning are we talking about? Is the kind where some baby is born using your DNA and you've got to wait 23 years, 3 months and 7 days till it is exactly like you, but by then you'll be 23 years, 3 months and 7 days older and it becomes some twisted game for the clone to actually be like you physically, taking all the fun out of cloning? Or is it the kind where you photocopy your bare ass and and for 10 cents a copy you get as many clones as you want (15 cents if you want them in colour, and 25 cents if you want them bound together with a nice cover page)?

I'm going to imagine it's the latter in which case I'd go drop 100 bucks down at the local Staples store and then proceed to watch the chaos unfold.
Wilgrove
05-02-2009, 17:48
I'd make a female clone of myself and sleep with her. *nod*
Neo Art
05-02-2009, 17:49
I'd make a female clone of myself

uhhhhh.....
Wilgrove
05-02-2009, 17:51
uhhhhh.....

:D She'd be a Faternal Clone. *nods*
Ferrous Oxide
05-02-2009, 17:52
Really, it'd end up with the rich just getting richer: imagine if Keeley or Lucy Pinder could sell clones of themselves off to horny teenagers?
Galloism
05-02-2009, 17:56
Really, it'd end up with the rich just getting richer: imagine if Keeley or Lucy Pinder could sell clones of themselves off to horny teenagers?

I sense a whole new crime being invented:

Sale of clones for sexual purposes to minors.
Ferrous Oxide
05-02-2009, 17:58
I sense a whole new crime being invented:

Sale of clones for sexual purposes to minors.

I'm Ferrous Oxide, famous slaver, and I approve of this legislation.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 18:47
I sense a whole new crime being invented:

Sale of clones for sexual purposes to minors.

I cannot imagine an army of my clones. That's too much.:eek:
Galloism
05-02-2009, 19:07
I cannot imagine an army of my clones. That's too much.:eek:

But you could sell them and make lots of money.

Of course, you'd have to be willing to sell yourself to the highest bidders...Yes I did make that joke.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:12
But you could sell them and make lots of money.

But the world isn't ready for that.

Of course, you'd have to be willing to sell yourself to the highest bidders...Yes I did make that joke.

Capullu pitu caleyu.:soap:
Galloism
05-02-2009, 19:20
Capullu pitu caleyu.:soap:

Did you just call me a chick with a foreskin in a bullfighting passage?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:21
Did you just call me a chick with a foreskin in a bullfighting passage?

No, I called you something worse, but I don't feel like indulging you by translating.:wink:
Galloism
05-02-2009, 19:22
No, I called you something worse, but I don't feel like indulging you by translating.:wink:

Then I'm keeping my translation. It seems like a very odd insult, and I appreciate insults that make you ponder.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:23
Then I'm keeping my translation. It seems like a very odd insult, and I appreciate insults that make you ponder.

I'm glad I could make you use your brain.:fluffle:
Galloism
05-02-2009, 19:24
I'm glad I could make you use your brain.:fluffle:

Well, I looked up each equivalent spanish word to the asturian counterpart, then translated each word individually to english. Having been translated twice, it probably loses some of the meaning.

But, I did always want to wind up in a bullfighting arena at some point.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:28
Well, I looked up each equivalent spanish word to the asturian counterpart, then translated each word individually to english. Having been translated twice, it probably loses some of the meaning.

But, I did always want to wind up in a bullfighting arena at some point.

Capullu- idiot, stupid
Pitu- guy
Caleyu- street

Capullu pitu caleyu./Stupid street guy.

Happy?:tongue:
Galloism
05-02-2009, 19:30
Capullu- idiot, stupid
Pitu- guy
Caleyu- street

Capullu pitu caleyu./Stupid street guy.

Happy?:tongue:

I liked mine better. :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:36
I liked mine better. :p

Then keep believing that one.;)
Western Mercenary Unio
05-02-2009, 19:46
Capullu- idiot, stupid
Pitu- guy
Caleyu- street

Capullu pitu caleyu./Stupid street guy.

Happy?:tongue:

I want to learn a new language, so that I can understand what people say, when they post, for example Spanish.,
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:46
I want to learn a new language, so that I can understand what people say when theypost for example Spanish.

What I posted wasn't in Spanish, just so you know.
Western Mercenary Unio
05-02-2009, 19:49
What I posted wasn't in Spanish, just so you know.

Yeah, but it annoys me when somebody posts in a language that I don't understand.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:51
Yeah, but it annoys me when somebody posts in a language that I don't understand.

Oh, eso es así? Te molesta que la gente conteste en idiomas que tú no entiendes? Qué mal.
Western Mercenary Unio
05-02-2009, 19:55
Oh, eso es así? Te molesta que la gente conteste en idiomas que tú no entiendes? Qué mal.

Tekkee niin mieli alkaa sekoitella suomea muuten englanninkielisiin posteihin.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 19:57
Tekkee niin mieli alkaa sekoitella suomea muuten englanninkielisiin posteihin.

En tiedä, mitä ensimmäisen tai seitsemännen sana tarkoittaa, mutta voit aina mennä ylimääräiset mailin ja löytää käännöstyökalujen. Sinulla on internet käytettävissänne.
Western Mercenary Unio
05-02-2009, 20:03
En tiedä, mitä ensimmäinen tai seitsemäs sana tarkoittaa, mutta voit aina mennä ylimääräisen vaivan ja löytää käännöstyökaluja. Sinulla on internet käytettävissäsi.

Fixed.

The first word is from Karelian dialect. The seventh is Finnish for English.
SaintB
06-02-2009, 22:25
hell yeah.

oooo if i rob a bank can they convict my clone of the crime?

All you have to do is say it was them.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
07-02-2009, 21:03
Fixed.

The first word is from Karelian dialect. The seventh is Finnish for English.

Thanks, but remember, I don't speak Finnish.:wink: