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This thread is to determine the subject of the debate between Ghost of Ayn Rand and Neo Art.

Topic choices have been left somewhat vague, so that my esteemed opponent and I have some leeway in crafting our stance, and so that we can find something on which we sufficiently differ that this doesn't devolve into merely separate refinement of the same position.

The subject will be decided by this poll.

The actual debate will be decided by vote of observers, with the following number of votes given to each poster based on post-count (thanks to Ashmoria for keeping the scale from becoming too top heavy):


0 - 100 posts 0 votes
101 - 1,000 posts 1 vote
1,001 - 2,500 2 votes
2,501 - 5,000 5 votes
5,001 + 10 votes

We'll keep this poll open maybe 3 or 4 days at the most, or less if its getting no input.

And remember, its now on. Its on like that hot little craft services chick on the set of "Old School" was on Vince Vaughn.

And what are the topics we are voting on?

And what are the topics we are voting on?

Should be on the poll. Is the poll not visible? I don't post a lot of polls, did I err?

Should be on the poll. Is the poll not visible? I don't post a lot of polls, did I err?

Its visible now.

I picked Compulsory Military Service, Space Travel: Vital to Mankind, or Expensive Hobby, and Computers in Civil Disobedience

Great choices!

You should post how many people should choose.

I voted Space Travel and conscription.

A question, out of curiosity - how are you guys planning to decide who takes which side of these issues? Shall I be the official coin-flipper? :tongue:

I think they should have two simultaneous threads: each should be required to debate both sides of the issue.

A question, out of curiosity - how are you guys planning to decide who takes which side of these issues? Shall I be the official coin-flipper? :tongue:

Well I think they might have a preference and/or can work it out between them. But if they can't, we will hose them down, swat them with pies and let you flip a coin. Sound good?

I think they should have two simultaneous threads: each should be required to debate both sides of the issue.

That could lead to a draw.

You should post how many people should choose.

I take it you mean "how many options people should choose". Choose 9 or fewer, since 10 would obviously be meaningless.

A question, out of curiosity - how are you guys planning to decide who takes which side of these issues? Shall I be the official coin-flipper? :tongue:

You flipping a coin would be pointless, since your 40 meter wide fluidic superbrain is easily capable of calculating angular momentum, air resistance, impulse interactions, and approximating classical dynamics such that you'll already know how it turns out.

We'll need to base the outcome on the decay of a particle, or which arm of a p-orbital an electron is observed on, something with nitrogen vacancies in diamonds.

Stop complicating things.

That could lead to a draw.

Then both sides would have to do the loser's forfeit.

Then both sides would have to do the loser's forfeit.

Aha! The plot thinnens!

Voted.

Was it intentionally made a multiple choice poll?

Voted.

Was it intentionally made a multiple choice poll?

Yes. There were so many choices, I wanted people to be able to give their top preferences. We can do a run off if we need to.

To keep things interesting, your debate should be on one of the topics involving sex.

Unless you don't like sex. FREAKS.

voted.

i just went with my top choice.

This thread is to determine the subject of the debate between Ghost of Ayn Rand and Neo Art.

Topic choices have been left somewhat vague, so that my esteemed opponent and I have some leeway in crafting our stance, and so that we can find something on which we sufficiently differ that this doesn't devolve into merely separate refinement of the same position.

The subject will be decided by this poll.

The actual debate will be decided by vote of observers, with the following number of votes given to each poster based on post-count (thanks to Ashmoria for keeping the scale from becoming too top heavy):


0 - 100 posts 0 votes
101 - 1,000 posts 1 vote
1,001 - 2,500 2 votes
2,501 - 5,000 5 votes
5,001 + 10 votes

We'll keep this poll open maybe 3 or 4 days at the most, or less if its getting no input.

And remember, its now on. Its on like that hot little craft services chick on the set of "Old School" was on Vince Vaughn.
Weighted by post count? What a ridiculous idea. How about weighting by seniority? I score higher that way :-P

Weighted by post count? What a ridiculous idea. How about weighting by seniority? I score higher that way :-P
why is your post count so low when you are such a prominent member of the community?

why is your post count so low when you are such a prominent member of the community?

I once asked Oscar Goodman that very question, except instead of post I said sperm.

Given the current vote, I can confidently declare that the debate topic shall be...WHORES! IN! SPAAAAAACE!

Given the current vote, I can confidently declare that the debate topic shall be...WHORES! IN! SPAAAAAACE!

*gasp!*

*runs to the copyright office*

Given the current vote, I can confidently declare that the debate topic shall be...WHORES! IN! SPAAAAAACE!

...possibly having sex with underage clients who were forced into the space-army. :D

Given the current vote, I can confidently declare that the debate topic shall be...WHORES! IN! SPAAAAAACE!

Its still possible that it will be Whores in the All Volunteer Space Navy.

Its still possible that it will be Whores in the All Volunteer Space Navy.

......get out of my giant liquid brain, you. :p

......get out of my giant liquid brain, you. :p

No. Its warm and foamy. Your bladder is the closest I'm going to get to your vulva and I'm not retreating.

I went with any of the sex related ones.

Because I feel Neo Art would enjoy those the most.

why is your post count so low when you are such a prominent member of the community?

Remember the great purge of 2008?

How can you incorporate post count if it's not a public poll?

How can you incorporate post count if it's not a public poll?

Per the OP, the subject matter is determined by poll.

The outcome of the debate will be by vote weighted to post count.

I was hoping for something fun and light hearted along the lines of; Which is better Coke or Pepsi.

Definitely gonna have to go with Prostitution on this one...Im tired of having to go to the back alleys...

I was hoping for something fun and light hearted along the lines of; Which is better Coke or Pepsi.

Coke is better on its own...Pepsi has a better overall Product Line...

Coke is better on its own...Pepsi has a better overall Product Line...

You can only mix Whisky with Coke no other Cola and especially not Pepsi. Wait this isn't my debate thread. *Stops debating*

But I voted for States right to secede

The Miltary Service one, aye!

You can only mix Whisky with Coke no other Cola and especially not Pepsi. Wait this isn't my debate thread. *Stops debating*



Exactly, Coke is the better Cola...But, Pepsi has Mountain Dew and 7Up, which are the greatest Sodas of all time...

While, Barq's is the only really good Coke product besides Coca-Cola...

Exactly, Coke is the better Cola...But, Pepsi has Mountain Dew and 7Up, which are the greatest Sodas of all time...

While, Barq's is the only really good Coke product besides Coca-Cola...

Well I can't deny Mountain Dew being a great soft drink. What is Barq's?

I was hoping for something fun and light hearted along the lines of; Which is better Coke or Pepsi.

They both fail in comparison to the greatness of Dr Pepper.

Well I can't deny Mountain Dew being a great soft drink. What is Barq's?

Rootbeer...The only really good Rootbeer...You've been Deprived my friend, lol...

They both fail in comparison to the greatness of Dr Pepper.

I have to say....I really hate Dr Pepper, just cant stand the taste of it...

I have to say....I really hate Dr Pepper, just cant stand the taste of it...

Honestly, I like all three just fine, but here in Texas, Dr Pepper produces a drink called Big Red that is just divine. That tips it in favor of the other two when it comes to the entire line.

Rootbeer...The only really good Rootbeer...You've been Deprived my friend, lol...

I have only had Sars once before and I hated it, as for Barq's they don't sell it here.

Honestly, I like all three just fine, but here in Texas, Dr Pepper produces a drink called Big Red that is just divine. That tips it in favor of the other two when it comes to the entire line.

Big Red is pretty good, Ill have to give you that....But idk, Mountain Dew is hare to top, lol...

I miss the Pitch Black one, that one was the Shit, lol..

Man I hate Mountain Dew. I feel like I am basically drinking sugar mixed with caffeine.

I have only had Sars once before and I hated it, as for Barq's they don't sell it here.

Well, if you ever make it Stateside, Definitely give it a shot, especially in the Glass Bottle...

Well, if you ever make it Stateside, Definitely give it a shot, especially in the Glass Bottle...

Next time I am in the States I will try it, sometimes the imported lolly shops also sell soft drink from America if I ever see it I will buy it try it and let you know.

Next time I am in the States I will try it, sometimes the imported lolly shops also sell soft drink from America if I ever see it I will buy it try it and let you know.

I would recommend IBC over Barq's.

I would recommend IBC over Barq's.

IBC does come close, but, idk, it doesnt have as much of the Bite...

Although, im sure everyone can agree Mug is the bottom of the barrel of rootbeer, lol...

IBC does come close, but, idk, it doesnt have as much of the Bite...

Although, im sure everyone can agree Mug is the bottom of the barrel of rootbeer, lol...

IBC doesn't bite but it has less carbonation, meaning it stays smoother, and it doesn't go flat in 30 seconds.

IBC doesn't bite but it has less carbonation, meaning it stays smoother, and it doesn't go flat in 30 seconds.

I like alot of Carbonation in my Rootbeer though, for me its one of the primary reasons for drinking it, lol..

I haven't heard of IBC either.

Man I hate Mountain Dew. I feel like I am basically drinking sugar mixed with caffeine.Funny. That's the same reason why I love Mountain Dew.

I haven't heard of IBC either.

How about A&W?

How about A&W?

Nope never heard of that either. Isn't that a telecommunications company?

I haven't seen Jolt Cola in a while.

I wonder what happend to Jolt Cola...

Yes, these subjects are rather dry and not conducive to the sort of lyrical insults we're expecting to see in a debate between Neo Art and JhahammuRand.

I'd prefer to see a debate statements to be: Neo Art is a [word proposed by JhahammuRand] and JhahammuRand is a [word proposed by Neo Art].

Each then has to convince us all as to the best case made, all forms of complete lies are permissible as the vote is made on who presents the best entertainment.

This also allows contribution from other posters in an accompanying thread, LG can still moderate and greater leeway for creativity is allowed.

Yes, these subjects are rather dry and not conducive to the sort of lyrical insults we're expecting to see in a debate between Neo Art and JhahammuRand.

I'd prefer to see a debate statements to be: Neo Art is a [word proposed by JhahammuRand] and JhahammuRand is a [word proposed by Neo Art].

Each then has to convince us all as to the best case made, all forms of complete lies are permissible as the vote is made on who presents the best entertainment.

This also allows contribution from other posters in an accompanying thread, LG can still moderate and greater leeway for creativity is allowed.

That would certainly be enjoyable, but I'm not sure the mods would tolerate such clear spam...and given such leeway, I don't think I could contain the baser and less...restrained...comments that come to my mind.

Nope never heard of that either. Isn't that a telecommunications company?

That's AT&T. A&W is what I'm drinking right now: it's pretty much the "generic" root beer in these parts.

That would certainly be enjoyable, but I'm not sure the mods would tolerate such clear spam...and given such leeway, I don't think I could contain the baser and less...restrained...comments that come to my mind.

The Mods are mere puppets dancing to my Pied Piper tune, children really, don't mind them, I'll put up a pinata just a little too high for them to reach in the Mod cave, it'll keep them distracted for weeks.

The Mods are mere puppets dancing to my Pied Piper tune, children really, don't mind them, I'll put up a pinata just a little too high for them to reach in the Mod cave, it'll keep them distracted for weeks.

Oh, this sounds familiar...

Barringtonia: Gents, its no problem, bribing a Mexican cop is like buying coffee in France, but not as pricey, I'll handle this...

All of Us: Really? Cool, man, thanks...

I haven't seen Jolt Cola in a while.

I wonder what happend to Jolt Cola...

I think all the other energy drinks have kinda taken its niche.

Man, Jolt Cola. If I ever wanted to remember something from an obscure college lecture from years ago...all I would have to do is chug one of those.

Dammit, now I want some Jolt Cola.

Oh, this sounds familiar...

Barringtonia: Gents, its no problem, bribing a Mexican cop is like buying coffee in France, but not as pricey, I'll handle this...

All of Us: Really? Cool, man, thanks...

Well don't pop open the cocaine on the cheap ho's breasts in the back of an open top f***ing convertible, for f**ks sake, until I've actually done the bribe next time.

I think all the other energy drinks have kinda taken its niche.

Man, Jolt Cola. If I ever wanted to remember something from an obscure college lecture from years ago...all I would have to do is chug one of those.

Dammit, now I want some Jolt Cola.

Heh, you use it to wash down a Zagnut and suddenly think, "Why do I suddenly give a shit about the Falkland Island's conflict, Farads as a measure of capacitance, and the screw-habits of New Guinea islanders?"

Well don't pop open the cocaine on the cheap ho's breasts in the back of an open top f***ing convertible, for f**ks sake, until I've actually done the bribe next time.

You...are blame oriented.

We need you to be solution oriented.

Exactly, Coke is the better Cola...But, Pepsi has Mountain Dew and 7Up, which are the greatest Sodas of all time.

7up is actually manufactured by the Dr. Pepper Snapple Group...Pepsi holds international rights to 7up outside of the U.S.

Rootbeer...The only really good Rootbeer...You've been Deprived my friend, lol...

Barqs is OK, but give me Stewarts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart%27s_Fountain_Classics) any day.

Man I hate Mountain Dew. I feel like I am basically drinking sugar mixed with caffeine.

That's the idea. :tongue:

I haven't seen Jolt Cola in a while.

I wonder what happend to Jolt Cola...

http://www.joltenergy.com/Fridge/tabid/80/Default.aspx

Dammit, now I want some Jolt Cola.

No you don't. When they remade their product line, they changed the formula for their cola...it now has the same shitty aftertaste that all other energy drinks have.

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EDIT (On-topic): Voted for space travel

That's the idea. :tongue:

But if I wanted to do that, it's soo much easier to have a coke and gummy bears :D

You...are blame oriented.

We need you to be solution oriented.

Of course, given the cheap ho was Ardchoille, it won't be too hard to keep her out of the debate or Youtube it is.

http://www.joltenergy.com/Fridge/tabid/80/Default.aspx

No you don't. When they remade their product line, they changed the formula for their cola...it now has the same shitty aftertaste that all other energy drinks have.

That's...that's not my Jolt Cola. That looks like an aerosol can.

Spray paint was high school, not college.

But if I wanted to do that, it's soo much easier to have a coke and gummy bears :D

Homer: I'm feeling kinda low, Apu. Got any of that beer that has candy floating in it? You know, Skittle Brau?
Apu: Such a product does not exist, sir. I think you must have dreamed it.
Homer: Oh. Then just give me a six pack and a couple of bags of Skittles.

:tongue:

Oh, this sounds familiar...

Barringtonia: Gents, its no problem, bribing a Mexican cop is like buying coffee in France, but not as pricey, I'll handle this...

All of Us: Really? Cool, man, thanks...

Its a good thing that I still had my pocket knife or we' still be in jail.

This thread is to determine the subject of the debate between Ghost of Ayn Rand and Neo Art.

Topic choices have been left somewhat vague, so that my esteemed opponent and I have some leeway in crafting our stance, and so that we can find something on which we sufficiently differ that this doesn't devolve into merely separate refinement of the same position.

The subject will be decided by this poll.

The actual debate will be decided by vote of observers, with the following number of votes given to each poster based on post-count (thanks to Ashmoria for keeping the scale from becoming too top heavy):


0 - 100 posts 0 votes
101 - 1,000 posts 1 vote
1,001 - 2,500 2 votes
2,501 - 5,000 5 votes
5,001 + 10 votes

We'll keep this poll open maybe 3 or 4 days at the most, or less if its getting no input.

And remember, its now on. Its on like that hot little craft services chick on the set of "Old School" was on Vince Vaughn.

Do you know for certain they disagree with all these issues?

Yes, these subjects are rather dry and not conducive to the sort of lyrical insults we're expecting to see in a debate between Neo Art and JhahammuRand.

I'd prefer to see a debate statements to be: Neo Art is a [word proposed by JhahammuRand] and JhahammuRand is a [word proposed by Neo Art].

Each then has to convince us all as to the best case made, all forms of complete lies are permissible as the vote is made on who presents the best entertainment.

This also allows contribution from other posters in an accompanying thread, LG can still moderate and greater leeway for creativity is allowed.

I very much support this in addition to the currently planned debate. I can even suggest a forum on which it could take place (http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com) if the Wrath of Mod is a fear.... :D

Do you know for certain they disagree with all these issues?

From the OP: "Topic choices have been left somewhat vague, so that my esteemed opponent and I have some leeway in crafting our stance, and so that we can find something on which we sufficiently differ that this doesn't devolve into merely separate refinement of the same position."

I think we can probably close this one down and do a top three runoff. Military Space Whores it is!

Oh, and by the way, it's on like the thermoplastic polymer, Dacron.

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I think we can probably close this one down and do a top three runoff. Military Space Whores it is!

Fine, you make the runoff thread, though, I'm writing a practice motion for summary judgment.

And its on like the facts presented must be, for the purposes of this motion, taken in light most favorable to the opposing party I'm filing this motion upon.

Military space whores. Tee Hee.

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