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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11023.html

Islamic terrorists are raping young men in order to drive them into suicide bombings.

The Sun quotes Algerian militant Abu Baçir El Assimi:

"The sexual act on young recruits aged between 16 to 19 was a means to urge them to commit suicide operations."

The paper claims that "intense social stigma and fear of more gay sex attacks leaves Muslims prepared to die."

Rape and homosexual acts are punishable by death under Sharia law.

A suspected terrorist bomber killed in an attempted attack on a security installation in the Tizi Ouzou province of Algeria last month may have been raped, an autopsy revealed.

News source Ennahar Online said there was "a large tear in the anus of the terrorist, which confirms the sexual abuse. In addition, semen analysis is underway to determine the perpetrator.

Wow. Just wow. First there was the story about women being raped into suicide bombing, and now this...

In both cases, there must be a lot of rapists just standing around, ready to rape recruits...

Yikes.

But I suppose it's along the same lines as using any other stigma-producing act as a "motivation" for something else. If person A is known to believe fervently that pigs are filthy and sinful, then to torture A, put him in a pit with lots of pigs. Then threaten to kill him with his "grievous" sin unabsolved. That's just psychological, though. This rape thing is a double-whammy. It just confirms that people who will subvert their own religion in order to get what they want are not exclusive to any sect. I also await moderates from any religion to condemn the acts of the extremists. They seldom do.

What I'm wondering is where do they get the rapists. I mean, rape is against their law. Doesn't the rapist feel any shame? Or is there some twisted logic that I'm missing...

Sex, Bomb. Sex, Bomb. Tom Jones would be appalled.

The sad part is that I can't tell if this article was written in satire of the other article, or if it's legit. I just... can't.... tell.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *runs out of the thread screaming*

Why is this "gay news?"

Why is this "gay news?"

See the link for the obvious explanation.

Why is this "gay news?"

Because it came from http://www.pinknews.co.uk/, "Europe's largest gay news service."

Why does rape make you blow things up?

Why does rape make you blow things up?

Good question. But in this case, and in the other thread (where women were raped for the same purpose), it works in certain Islamic societies.

Because it came from http://www.pinknews.co.uk/, "Europe's largest gay news service."

That doesn't mean every article they put is about homosexuality itself. Anyway, I would suspect that the fear and humiliation and shame of being raped (especially for males) plays a far bigger role in this situation than homosexuality. Certainly rape is not done as an expression of sexual desire either, so its not fair to even suggest that terrorists are gay if they rape men.

What I'm wondering is where do they get the rapists. I mean, rape is against their law. Doesn't the rapist feel any shame? Or is there some twisted logic that I'm missing...
Presumably the rapists are sociopaths who get off on dominance and the infliction of misery. Raping guys is totally not gay, after all.
Sex, Bomb. Sex, Bomb. Tom Jones would be appalled.
You're a terrible person, did anyone every tell you that?

What I'm wondering is where do they get the rapists. I mean, rape is against their law. Doesn't the rapist feel any shame? Or is there some twisted logic that I'm missing...

Have you MET the irrational, militant, fundamentalist sects of Islam? These are the original "rape is the raped's fault" people. Twisting logic since at least 800AD. Obliviously patriarchal, to the exclusion of anything remotely resembling logic or consideration for anyone or anything that does not further or bring glory to their cause or themselves. Out Machiavelling Machiavelli for a long time.

Have you MET the irrational, militant, fundamentalist sects of Islam? These are the original "rape is the raped's fault" people. Twisting logic since at least 800AD.

Nownow. The Bible agrees with that position if the rape occured in a city; though the blame is then shared by both woman and man.* The notion is not unique to Islam, nor did it originate there.


* Unless the woman was unmarried of course. In that case rapist and victim must remedy the shame by marrying.

Nownow. The Bible agrees with that position if the rape occured in a city; though the blame is then shared by both woman and man.* The notion is not unique to Islam, nor did it originate there.


* Unless the woman was unmarried of course. In that case rapist and victim must remedy the shame by marrying.

IIRC, in the old testament, the rapist could pay money to the family of the woman.

Nownow. The Bible agrees with that position if the rape occured in a city; though the blame is then shared by both woman and man.

Whoops, sorry. That should have read "since 500BC". Thanks for the correction.

Whoops, sorry. That should have read "since 500BC". Thanks for the correction.

Curious how Jews and Christians don't have rape squads set up to force recruits into suicide bombing frames of mind.

Why does rape make you blow things up?

Martyrdom=redemption=heaven

Whoops, sorry. That should have read "since 500BC". Thanks for the correction.

More accurate :)
Though I admit being hazy about how the Egyptians and such treated rape. Or the Hindus for that matter.

Any history buffs here ?

Curious how Jews and Christians don't have rape squads set up to force recruits into suicide bombing frames of mind.

The difference between Muslims and Christians, muslims actually follow what their religious book says:tongue:

Curious how Jews and Christians don't have rape squads set up to force recruits into suicide bombing frames of mind.

Not anymore. Hell, "knowing" people used to be a basic greeting in the time of the Old Testament. Modern Judeo-Christians gave it up. It looks more and more to me like some factions of Islam decided that it wasn't something they wanted to do without.

Curious how Jews and Christians don't have rape squads set up to force recruits into suicide bombing frames of mind.

Christians are in the majority. They don't need to resort to such tactics, just annoying TV shows, which are almost as despicable.:tongue:

And as we all know, Jews already rule the world.:wink:

Christians are in the majority. They don't need to resort to such tactics, just TV shows, which are almost as despicable.:tongue:

And as we all know, Jews already rule the world.:wink:

Oh yeah. And the Masons...

Curious how Jews and Christians don't have rape squads set up to force recruits into suicide bombing frames of mind.

This is because Muslims are inherently evil and backwards, no?

IIRC, in the old testament, the rapist could pay money to the family of the woman.

Doesn't that make it retroactive non-consenting prostitution at that point?

IIRC, in the old testament, the rapist could pay money to the family of the woman.

In case of an unbethroted woman, he has to pay the father a set sum of silver and marry the girl, with no possibility of divorce.

In case of a married woman, it depends on the location of the rape. Within the city both woman and rapist are equally guilty, and must both be killed.
In the country only the rapist is guilty.

Fortunately these particular Biblical commandments are nowadays mostly ignored by Christians. Hopefully muslims will follow soon.

This is because Muslims are inherently evil and backwards, no?

Sure sounds like it. Or maybe they're just stupid.

Sure sounds like it. Or maybe they're just stupid.

Yeah, see that was my bad. I thought you were homophobic trolling when it should have been obvious you were Islamophobic trolling.

Yeah, see that was my bad. I thought you were homophobic trolling when it should have been obvious you were Islamophobic trolling.

Looks like a fair number agree with me, and it isn't trolling.

Looks like a fair number agree with me

They would agree with you on the subject of whoever commits and/or plans these rapes. Not on all Muslims.

And even if every single person in the thread agreed with you, it would not make you any less wrong.

, and it isn't trolling.

There's no place like home, Dorothy! No place like home! Just repeat it and magic will happen.

Martyrdom=redemption=heaven

Yes, but your 70 virgins will all be men. :eek:

Yes, but your 70 virgins will all be men. :eek:

Actually it's 72 virgins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA2KoBNjo-Y

Actually it's 72 virgins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA2KoBNjo-Y

Gay or straight?

Curious how Jews and Christians don't have rape squads set up to force recruits into suicide bombing frames of mind.

Didn't the US use male rape as a method of torture under the Bush admin?

Didn't the US use male rape as a method of torture under the Bush admin?

Sodomy. Totally different.

Those suicide bombers would not be killing themselves if somebody would just tell them that they can have as many virgins as they want now. :)

Now about being raped? Well, they need to go boom around the people that raped them.

Why is this "gay news?"

Because all gays are muslim and therefore suicide bombers. Keep up.

Because all gays are muslim and therefore suicide bombers. Keep up.

No, because this was a story in a gay news website. Do keep up.

Actually it's 72 virgins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA2KoBNjo-Y

Actually it's "white raisins of crystal clarity."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/jan/12/books.guardianreview5

No, because this was a story in a gay news website. Do keep up.

And if it had been on VIBE's website, it would have been urban music news? If it had been on Countryside and Small Stock Journal's website, it would have been homesteader news?

Methinks, you were deliberately trolling with the title.

Actually it's "white raisins of crystal clarity."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/jan/12/books.guardianreview5
I like raisins, especially if they're covered in white chocolate...
I've never had to die to get any, though. At least, as far as I can recall.