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Holy shit we rank #31, below Philippines, Sri Lanka, Lesotho, Moldova, Argentina, Cuba, Barbados and and.........

United States (#27)
http://www.weforum.org/pdf/gendergap/rankings2008.pdf

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Discuss.

Because women can't fell trees and other such Canadian pursuits.

Because women can't fell trees and other such Canadian pursuits.

Like making maple syrup and dog sled racing. Also, don't forget breeding and raising beavers for non-sanctioned beaver fighting! It takes a man's man to do those things! Or if you're my best friend, a tomboy with very short hair.

Like making maple syrup and dog sled racing. Also, don't forget breeding and raising beavers for non-sanctioned beaver fighting! It takes a man's man to do those things!
Fuckin' A, eh.
Or if you're my best friend, a tomboy with very short hair.
Nah she couldn't.

America's less racist too, since Canada's never had a black Prime Minister.:p

On the other hand, we did briefly have a female PM, so we're ahead their.:confused:

America's less racist too, since Canada's never had a black Prime Minister.:p

On the other hand, we did briefly have a female PM, so we're ahead their.:confused:

We have a black Governor General, einstein.

America's less racist too, since Canada's never had a black Prime Minister.:p

On the other hand, we did briefly have a female PM, so we're ahead their.:confused:
Understand how Canada works pls :tongue:

We have a black Governor General, einstein.

Doesn't count. The Gov. General is a figurehead, right? Not as powerful as either the PM or the US President.

Understand how Canada works pls :tongue:

Ok, explain to me how Canada works, oh enlightened one.:)

Doesn't count. The Gov. General is a figurehead, right? Not as powerful as either the PM or the US President.
Eh the Governer General can dissolve parliament.

Doesn't count. The Gov. General is a figurehead, right? Not as powerful as either the PM or the US President.

Still she officially outranks PM. Oh and its a she too.
Would be better if she was lesbian as well so she could of been a lesbian black Gov. General.

America's less racist too, since Canada's never had a black Prime Minister.:p

On the other hand, we did briefly have a female PM, so we're ahead their.:confused:

Either way, celebrating a 27th place is just wrong.

With that note: Hooray, we won!

Eh the Governer General can dissolve parliament.

Yeah, but if she did so permanently, I imagine their'd be quite a bit of protest.

Or maybe not. Canadian politics can be pretty laid back.

Either way, celebrating a 27th place is just wrong.

With that note: Hooray, we won!

Oh shut up, its the oil.

Look at Saudi Arabia. They have lots of oil too and that place is just full of equality.

You're contradicting the NSG official line on Canada. During the last few years, the position on NSG is that Canada is better in every possible way when compared to the US.

Ok, explain to me how Canada works, oh enlightened one.:)
KK then -

You have a (mostly) elected government. We own it, and hence can stop you chaps doing much with it by dissolving it, telling you can't meet etc. by order of the Queen or Governer General.

There we go :tongue:

You're contradicting the NSG official line on Canada. During the last few years, the position on NSG is that Canada is better in every possible way when compared to the US.

I know *cries*

I thought lumberjacking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0DPE85B6Y)was open to all genders?

I know *cries*

Now you need to apologize before someone gets upset...

KK then -

You have a (mostly) elected government. We own it, and hence can stop you chaps doing much with it by dissolving it, telling you can't meet etc. by order of the Queen or Governer General.

There we go :tongue:

Yeah, but I doubt any Governor General or British Monarch would have the balls to tell Canadians they aren't a sovereign and democratic country. We could just ask America to come liberate us.;)

Yeah, but if she did so permanently, I imagine their'd be quite a bit of protest.

Or maybe not. Canadian politics can be pretty laid back.
I dunno, I think most people might be happy to have new elections so that Harper's bullshit government could be voted out.

Yeah, but I doubt any Governor General or British Monarch would have the balls to tell Canadians they aren't a sovereign and democratic country. We could just ask America to come liberate us.;)

we'd rather be a British colony.

Well this table is presented with no explanation what are these gender-gap numbers supposed to represent?

Are they financial, aggregate based on scores for a number of criteria... what?

Now go get me my god-damn beer woman. Don't make me tell you twice!

So far, everything I've learned about Canada has come from Total Drama Island and For Better or Worse. *nods*

I dunno, I think most people might be happy to have new elections so that Harper's bullshit government could be voted out.

Compared to US Conservatives, Harper doesn't scare me that much.

Its like worrying about an annoyed puppy when their's a lion charging you.

Well this table is presented with no explanation what are these gender-gap numbers supposed to represent?

Are they financial, aggregate based on scores for a number of criteria... what?

Now go get me my god-damn beer woman. Don't make me tell you twice!

Its a ranking. #1 wins. #31 is a sore loser. Not even top 10. Might as well die.

Yeah, but I doubt any Governor General or British Monarch would have the balls to tell Canadians they aren't a sovereign and democratic country.
It'd at least be honest :tongue:
We could just ask America to come liberate us.;)
Eh who do most Canadians support more? The Queen, who's all old but ok and shit, or the US, which burnt down Toronto?

So far, everything I've learned about Canada has come from Total Drama Island and For Better or Worse. *nods*
I recommend Due South as a source of information about Canada.
Compared to US Conservatives, Harper doesn't scare me that much.
So?

He's still a pretty shitty politician and his party offends tous mes sensibilities and all.

Its a ranking. #1 wins. #31 is a sore loser. Not even top 10. Might as well die.

A ranking of what though and abstract concept like sexism or is it something concrete like pay differences.

I you look closer you'll see a column labeled gender-gap with a number between 0 and 1 they're ranked by that number. So I want to know what that number means

...and wheres my freakin' beer! Next post better come with a beer attached or theres gonna be trouble!

A ranking of what though and abstract concept like sexism or is it somthing concrete like pay differences.

I you look closer you'll see a column labeled gender-gap with a number beween 0 and 1 their ranked by that number. So I want to know what that number means


Well, then google it.

Edit: I'm male.

Well, then google it.

Ok I will.

Edit: I'm male.

Thats no excuse for tardiness.

Well the good news. I found it and there is an explanation...

http://www.weforum.org/en/initiatives/gcp/Gender%20Gap/index.htm

The bad news. The explanation is buried in a 176 page report. I skimmed that report and found out that the gener-gap is a squishy aggregate number representing differences in opportunity between men and women for a number of variables including pay and education.

I'd have to actually read the report to say if it's good science or not ... and I'm quite unwilling to do that.

So?

He's still a pretty shitty politician and his party offends tous mes sensibilities and all.

Actually he's probably a very clever politician. That does not, of course, nessissarily translate to being a good leader.

Actually he's probably a very clever politician. That does not, of course, nessissarily translate to being a good leader.

No he's neither smart, a good leader, or personable ... really no good qualities to recommend him whatsoever. It defies explanation that he's managed to become leader of the country.

You're contradicting the NSG official line on Canada. During the last few years, the position on NSG is that Canada is better in every possible way when compared to the US.

oh it so is too :p . . .that being said we did elect Harper . . . .hmmmmm conundrum there . . . . .

No he's neither smart, a good leader, or personable ... really no good qualities to recommend him whatsoever. It defies explanation that he's managed to become leader of the country.

The idiot conservatives began moving up from the states?

oh it so is too :p . . .that being said we did elect Harper . . . .hmmmmm conundrum there . . . . .

Shh. Most Americans don't know about Harper. Continue with the charade that Canada is superior...

Shh. Most Americans don't know about Harper. Continue with the charade that Canada is superior...

but is sooo challenging now! we elected the guy who believed that about two months into the recession that "everything was fine! We'll be posting a surplus!" . . .and you got someone who's making some changes . . .for the better . . . *breaks down in tears* I think were genuinely worse!

Oh Canada is superior despite harper, and for reason which are totally beyond the understanding of liberals on NSG.

It draws into question how they measured this "Gender Gap" if we just talking about salaries there a lot reasons that do not have just to do with sex of the employee. The US isn't much better.

but is sooo challenging now! we elected the guy who believed that about two months into the recession that "everything was fine! We'll be posting a surplus!" . . .and you got someone who's making some changes . . .for the better . . . *breaks down in tears* I think were genuinely worse!

You can laugh in your superiority. Our Speaker of the House has just announced that each month, America is losing 500 million jobs...

but is sooo challenging now! we elected the guy who believed that about two months into the recession that "everything was fine! We'll be posting a surplus!" . . .and you got someone who's making some changes . . .for the better . . . *breaks down in tears* I think were genuinely worse!

There there. Whenever you think of moving to the states just remember one thing. ...bud-lite.

There there. Whenever you think of moving to the states just remember one thing. ...bud-lite.

Molson and curling would be enough to make me leave Canada.

It draws into question how they measured this "Gender Gap" if we just talking about salaries there a lot reasons that do not have just to do with sex of the employee. The US isn't much better.

It's not. You actually need to read the report. ...but you won't and neither will anyone else.

http://www.weforum.org/en/initiatives/gcp/Gender%20Gap/index.htm

There there. Whenever you think of moving to the states just remember one thing. ...bud-lite.

I feel so much better again :)

Well the good news. I found it and there is an explanation...

http://www.weforum.org/en/initiatives/gcp/Gender%20Gap/index.htm

The bad news. The explanation is buried in a 176 page report. I skimmed that report and found out that the gener-gap is a squishy aggregate number representing differences in opportunity between men and women for a number of variables including pay and education.

I'd have to actually read the report to say if it's good science or not ... and I'm quite unwilling to do that.

Good job! That is a good definition.

squishy aggregate number representing differences in opportunity between men and women for a number of variables including pay and education.


Lots of potentially loaded language in there and it also depends on how study confirmed these "differences in opportunity"

Don't get bent out of shape, produce your own study it is just potentially meaningful.

Molson and curling would be enough to make me leave Canada.

Well I won't sing any praises for Molson but you should try curling.

Curling is stupid to watch but not quite as stupid to actually play. What I don't understand is why the broadcast curling on TV. It's like watching bowling ... who the fuck watches bowling!

Anyway you should try curling. It's kinda like bowling.

Well I won't sing any praises for Molson but you should try curling.

Curling is stupid to watch but not quite as stupid to actually play. What I don't understand is why the broadcast curling on TV. It's like watching bowling ... who the fuck watches bowling!

Anyway you should try curling. It's kinda like bowling.

Yeah, I was in Ottawa for a year one weekend, and there were four fucking channels of curling...

Yeah, I was in Ottawa for a year one weekend, and there were four fucking channels of curling...

Did u smuggle in your weapons?

Good job! That is a good definition.

squishy aggregate number representing differences in opportunity between men and women for a number of variables including pay and education.


Lots of potentially loaded language in there and it also depends on how study confirmed these "differences in opportunity"

Don't get bent out of shape, produce your own study it is just potentially meaningful.

Hey guy I did find you the source didn't I? If you want to try and understand it go ahead and read the report. I am not willing to because It's pretty damn long ... I did atleast read the first few pages and found that yes it is based on an aggregate of a number of variables. Such number are usually squishy.

And as for reports. You release one. I'm too busy living in reality.

Did u smuggle in your weapons?

No need. You can get permits if you're visiting Canada.

Yeah, I was in Ottawa for a year one weekend, and there were four fucking channels of curling...

Yeah. I agree thats fucked up.

It's not. You actually need to read the report. ...but you won't and neither will anyone else.

http://www.weforum.org/en/initiatives/gcp/Gender%20Gap/index.htm

*reads* some of these categories are. ..suspect . . .to say the least. For example the fact that Survivability between men and women has decreased in certain countries apparently counts as a negative. Thats really not a sexism thing so much as its a general improvement in med-tech upping life expectancy across the board and in doing so closing the cap between men and women slightly. (Women generally have higher life expectancies than men in first world-developed countries). And how does "Contraceptive prevalence of married women" come into play???? um . . .these stats seem a little less impressive now.

Hey guy I did find you the source didn't I? If you want to try and understand it go ahead and read the report. I am not willing to because It's pretty damn long ... I did atleast read the first few pages and found that yes it is based on an aggregate of a number of variables. Such number are usually squishy.

And as for reports. You release one. I'm too busy living in reality.

Read it . . .the variables are somewhat . . . .iffy. *speed reading really comes in handy sometimes*

Yeah, I was in Ottawa for a year one weekend, and there were four fucking channels of curling...
Curling it to'lly easy to watch eh.

Curling it to'lly easy to watch eh.

Eh!

Curling it to'lly easy to watch eh.

That, and they rolled the streets up in Ottawa at 8 PM on a Friday night.

Everything fucking closed. At least in the UK I could get out and get a decent meal and a decent drink even if it was midnight.

No need. You can get permits if you're visiting Canada.

About half the population has guns. We just don't go around shooting people as much so it doesn't get so much press. Growing up my step-dad had 3, two rifles and a shotgun... that was typical for our rural neighborhood.

That, and they rolled the streets up in Ottawa at 8 PM on a Friday night.

Everything fucking closed. At least in the UK I could get out and get a decent meal and a decent drink even if it was midnight.

lmao now thats just Ottawa. At eight in toronto the night hasn't even started yet.

http://www.weforum.org/pdf/gendergap/ggg07_canada.pdf

We seem to do 'poorly' in the fields of politics, and to a lesser extent, economics.

You're contradicting the NSG official line on Canada. During the last few years, the position on NSG is that Canada is better in every possible way when compared to the US.

As one of the more vocal Canadians on this forum over the past few years, I can confidently say that I have roundly criticised Canadian policies in regards to aboriginal peoples, civil liberties, various political parties, etc etc and so on and so forth. So no. That 'official line' you made up where Canada is perfect doesn't actually exist.

As one of the more vocal Canadians on this forum over the past few years, I can confidently say that I have roundly criticised Canadian policies in regards to aboriginal peoples, civil liberties, various political parties, etc etc and so on and so forth. So no. That 'official line' you made up where Canada is perfect doesn't actually exist.

You're the only honest Canadian on the board. When you do criticize Canada, the threads die quick deaths, because the rest of them don't want to join in on the Canada criticism.

You're the only honest Canadian on the board. When you do criticize Canada, the threads die quick deaths, because the rest of them don't want to join in on the Canada criticism.

I dispute this as well. Gift-of-God, Mikesburg and some few others (we are a small group overall) all manage to approach 'things Canadian' from a critical point of view. Like many of those who slag Canada, many of those who sing our praises are not Canadian, and not at all informed about Canada.

You're the only honest Canadian on the board. When you do criticize Canada, the threads die quick deaths, because the rest of them don't want to join in on the Canada criticism.

I'm Canadian. Actually all of us Canadians here bitch about Canada all the time. That doesn't mean it's still not better than the US. It's just that some liberals in the US do make Canada into some socialist wonderland which it is not (thank god).

I dispute this as well. Gift-of-God, Mikesburg and some few others (we are a small group overall) all manage to approach 'things Canadian' from a critical point of view. Like many of those who slag Canada, many of those who sing our praises are not Canadian, and not at all informed about Canada.

Like CanuckHeaven

Oh Canada is superior despite harper, and for reason which are totally beyond the understanding of liberals on NSG.

It's because of the syrup isn't it? Or is it Rush?:D

Like CanuckHeaven

Precisely.

Precisely.

Stephistan and her husband were insufferable as well.

It's because of the syrup isn't it? Or is it Rush?:D

It's more the combination of Wake'n'baken every morning with an ounce in your bedside dresser that cost less that $100. Then eating pancakes (with maple syrup) then going to work blazed and doing a shitty job at a shitty job for shitty pay while listening to rush. Then going home and eating sockeye salmon which your neighbor gave you for nothing while watching star-wars in French. And Then getting high again this time while drinking canadian whiskey followed by having sex with girls which wouldn't be legal in the states.