NationStates Jolt Archive


Betraying your morals...

One-O-One
04-02-2009, 04:01
What makes you do it? For instance, in the last few years I've grown up a lot and I have come to realise somethings are very wrong with the world, and large multinational corporations tend to play a large part in this, however, I am addicted to drinking Coca-Cola but ethical business practices or the lack thereof at The Coca-Cola Company make me feel uncomfortable enough to not drink it or any of their other products.

What about you, NSG, what morals do you compromise?

Poll coming.
Barringtonia
04-02-2009, 04:03
What about you, NSG, what morals do you compromise?

Other peoples'.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-02-2009, 04:08
Moral. Singular. I only have one moral and I have never compromised it. :)
Galloism
04-02-2009, 04:11
Moral. Singular. I only have one moral and I have never compromised it. :)

I'm going to regret this... I'm going to regret this... I'm going to regret this...

I have to.

What is your one moral?
Pure Metal
04-02-2009, 04:12
probably all of them. well, all my own ones anyhow :(
life's too short, too busy, not enough time, not enough money, etc, etc
Dylsexic Untied
04-02-2009, 04:13
Yeah... I have a lot of morals, but my conscience is no longer that voice in the back of my head. It's pretty much inaudible, and the only thing that stops me from violating them is when I have the time to actually realize I'm about to break them.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-02-2009, 04:20
I'm going to regret this... I'm going to regret this... I'm going to regret this...

I have to.

What is your one moral?

Don't you like surprises?

;)

My one moral: Keep em guessing.
Galloism
04-02-2009, 04:21
My one moral: Keep em guessing.

I walked right into that.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-02-2009, 04:28
I walked right into that.

It's true though. I don't believe in absolutes. Some come close, like my disapproval of killing and death and my belief that everyone has a fundamental right to pursue happiness, but even those have the occasional exception. That's the problem with being an enlightened barbarian; on rare occasion, I still take joy in the suffering of others. But not too often. :tongue:
Galloism
04-02-2009, 04:31
It's true though. I don't believe in absolutes. Some come close, like my disapproval of killing and death and my belief that everyone has a fundamental right to pursue happiness, but even those have the occasional exception. That's the problem with being an enlightened barbarian; on rare occasion, I still take joy in the suffering of others. But not too often. :tongue:

I used to have a very long list of morals, but over time I gradually broke every one of them, and to bring my internal psyche into harmony with my actions, I had to discard them.

I like yours though. I might adopt it.
Barringtonia
04-02-2009, 04:33
It's true though. I don't believe in absolutes. Some come close, like my disapproval of killing and death and my belief that everyone has a fundamental right to pursue happiness, but even those have the occasional exception. That's the problem with being an enlightened barbarian; on rare occasion, I still take joy in the suffering of others. But not too often. :tongue:

That's exactly my meaning in my first post - other peoples' because you can always find compromise in morals, and I enjoy breaking down absolute statements by other people.
One-O-One
04-02-2009, 04:36
I used to have a very long list of morals, but over time I gradually broke every one of them, and to bring my internal psyche into harmony with my actions, I had to discard them.

I like yours though. I might adopt it.

Provide example of previous morals?
Galloism
04-02-2009, 04:37
Provide example of previous morals?

Oh they're not different than anyone's I suppose.
Neesika
04-02-2009, 04:45
I have, on a number of occasions...

This is really hard to say actually...I am filled with shame...

I have...

I have shopped at WalMart. BUT I SWEAR I WAS BROKE AND THEIR PRICES REALLY ARE CHEAPER AND MY GOD IT WAS FOR DIAPERS AND BABY FOOD, I'M NOT A MONSTER I SWEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME!

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z278/lordcima/Jakebluesscript_43.jpg
One-O-One
04-02-2009, 04:49
I have, on a number of occasions...

This is really hard to say actually...I am filled with shame...

I have...

I have shopped at WalMart. BUT I SWEAR I WAS BROKE AND THEIR PRICES REALLY ARE CHEAPER AND MY GOD IT WAS FOR DIAPERS AND BABY FOOD, I'M NOT A MONSTER I SWEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME!

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z278/lordcima/Jakebluesscript_43.jpg

I know you were in jest and all, but other than their exploitation of forgien workers, they also exploit their suppliers through a nasty scheme of taking up most of a companies production, and then threatening to let the contract with the company drop if they don't reduce costs. Basically extortion.
Neesika
04-02-2009, 04:53
I know you were in jest and all, but other than their exploitation of forgien workers, they also exploit their suppliers through a nasty scheme of taking up most of a companies production, and then threatening to let the contract with the company drop if they don't reduce costs. Basically extortion.

I'm not at all in jest. I'm well aware of WalMart's business practices, and I loathe them. But I have shopped there a few times because I needed to stretch my very thin budget. I do indeed feel guilty about it. When, as now, I am in a better position to NOT have to resort to shopping there, I don't. And by 'better position' I mean 'not literally on the cusp of living on the street'.
greed and death
04-02-2009, 04:55
moral are for those who refuse to make money.
Conserative Morality
04-02-2009, 05:00
You should familiarize yourself with the writings of the eminent Russian-American writer/Philosopher/Sex kitten Ayn Raynd. (Wow! that was almost relevent! :D)
One-O-One
04-02-2009, 05:03
You should familiarize yourself with the writings of the eminent Russian-American writer/Philosopher/Sex kitten Ayn Raynd. (Wow! that was almost relevent! :D)

Where's the motivational poster?:(
Chernobyl-Pripyat
04-02-2009, 05:14
I already know I'm a terrible person. >.>
New Wallonochia
04-02-2009, 05:19
I already know I'm a terrible person. >.>

Yeah, but who isn't? Some of us more than others, of course...
One-O-One
04-02-2009, 08:46
Yeah, but who isn't?

Me.

http://i44.tinypic.com/35bv6zb.jpg
Cameroi
04-02-2009, 09:05
in truth, and not wishing to be thought a saint, nor be one, and yet, there is nothing i would less wish to live without then a clear conscience.

fortunately my morals, what i consider to be the beginning and end of morality, is fairly simple and straight forward, i.e. to make every reasonable effort within my power to avoid causing suffering and harm.

whatever else i must live without to maintain this, i have, to the best of my knowledge done so and continue to. and while no one can, with absolute certainty, predict even their own future behavior, i have no expectation to alter this, and certainly no intention of doing so.

as for the question of sharing sexual intimacies, which the great unwashed masses, for whatever reason seem to continue to insist on confusing the one question with the other, that is one i consider an entirely separate matter and of little or no pertinence to the literal question.

the only slight bearing it might have being that i have no wish to cause metal anguish by this means, any more or less then by any other.
Meridiani Planum
04-02-2009, 09:12
I strive not to compromise my morals, since my morals are practical and compromising on them will likely achieve impractical results. Why be foolish?

And my morals include making money. Thanks Ayn Rand! :)
Cameroi
04-02-2009, 09:24
ayn rand was a very persuasive con artist when it came to lying about practicality. most people with better sense have long since come to realize this.
SaintB
04-02-2009, 12:54
I try to do no harm, unless absolutely unavoidable. No, I haven't compromised my morals.
Pure Metal
04-02-2009, 12:59
I have, on a number of occasions...

This is really hard to say actually...I am filled with shame...

I have...

I have shopped at WalMart. BUT I SWEAR I WAS BROKE AND THEIR PRICES REALLY ARE CHEAPER AND MY GOD IT WAS FOR DIAPERS AND BABY FOOD, I'M NOT A MONSTER I SWEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME!

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z278/lordcima/Jakebluesscript_43.jpg

ZOMG you took your shades off! :eek2:
Tagmatium
04-02-2009, 12:59
My moral code tends to be somewhat flexible.
Dalmatia Cisalpina
04-02-2009, 14:37
I've compromised my morals before, and I'm not proud of it. All I can hope is that, when I did compromise my morals, I didn't do serious long-term damage to anyone involved.
Extreme Ironing
04-02-2009, 15:07
I don't have any absolute morals, so they can be modified to the situation if necessary. That said, I try to avoid companies with practices I dislike: McDonald's, Starbucks, Lidl, Tesco, Nike, Nestle. There are probably others I would avoid if I knew about their actions, but I'm not always aware of them. And in some places, it's hard to avoid: meeting up with friends for a coffee, and they happen to be in Starbucks already.

There are also social things that can be easily broken: I dislike it when others brag about things obviously, but I've found myself doing the same on occasion.
Big Jim P
05-02-2009, 00:21
I have no morals.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-02-2009, 03:34
I am ashamed to say that for baselessness I have compromised my morals. No excuses.
Collectivity
05-02-2009, 03:54
I'm very ethical. I don't like to lie - at least not to lie to people I respect or to people in general. To someone in authority who will hit you with a fine if you tell the truth, it's a different matter. I would call certain lies, ethical lies.
For instance, if you believed in the importance of protecting refugees and you were harbouring a refugee family in your hidden attic, if some uniformed officials knocked at your door and asked if you knew the whereabouts of any refugees. Then it would be ethical to lie - even if lying is not moral.
I guess this is because there is a heirarchy of values. In this case, the principle of protecting others overrides moral considerations.