NationStates Jolt Archive


Holy....I Want a Flame Thrower!

Wilgrove
02-02-2009, 19:04
Link (http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html)

Look at all the crap that are legal! :D I will now buy a flame thrower!
Hotwife
02-02-2009, 19:05
Link (http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html)

Look at all the crap that are legal! :D I will now buy a flame thrower!

The old WWII style flamethrower is legal to purchase and own in the US. It is not considered a firearm or destructive device.

Farmers use them to ignite controlled burns of fields and brush.
Neo Art
02-02-2009, 19:06
Link (http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html)

Look at all the crap that are legal! :D I will now buy a flame thrower!

I question the validity of saying flamethrowers are legal. Just because there's no law directly on point saying an object that spews fire is illegal, doesn't mean it doesn't fall under general catagories of dangerous weapons/substances.

On the other hand, i really don't know one way or another, but saying "it's legal because there's no law that says 'no flamerthrowers'!" is disengenuous.
Tagmatium
02-02-2009, 19:06
Link (http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html)

Look at all the crap that are legal! :D I will now buy a flame thrower!
Dunno...

Flamethrowers are pretty hideous weapons.
FreeSatania
02-02-2009, 19:07
No 6 is better:

Salvia Divinorum

Get it while it's still legal!
Wilgrove
02-02-2009, 19:08
I question the validity of saying flamethrowers are legal. Just because there's no law directly on point saying an object that spews fire is illegal, doesn't mean it doesn't fall under general catagories of dangerous weapons/substances.

On the other hand, i really don't know one way or another, but saying "it's legal because there's no law that says 'no flamerthrowers'!" is disengenuous.

Too bad one guy built a tank out of a bulldozer and terrorized a town with it. Or else...home made tank + Flamethrowers = Epic Win.
Hotwife
02-02-2009, 19:09
I question the validity of saying flamethrowers are legal. Just because there's no law directly on point saying an object that spews fire is illegal, doesn't mean it doesn't fall under general catagories of dangerous weapons/substances.

On the other hand, i really don't know one way or another, but saying "it's legal because there's no law that says 'no flamerthrowers'!" is disengenuous.

The ATF does not consider them to be a weapon that they regulate.

They are perfectly legal to own and operate with very little restriction in most parts of the US.

They require no licensing. No background check.

There are already laws against arson and murder.
Galloism
02-02-2009, 19:12
Or, you know, you could just make a flamethrower with a can of starter fluid and a small wood fire.
Yootopia
02-02-2009, 19:13
Salvia Divinorum

Get it while it's still legal!
Why? It's pure pish.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-02-2009, 19:15
I'd rather have a mud thrower. It's remarkably difficult to cover something with mud from a reasonable distance.
Yootopia
02-02-2009, 19:16
I'd rather have a mud thrower. It's remarkably difficult to cover something with mud from a reasonable distance.
I have a plan for one involving a melon scoop and elastic bands but it'd be against the Geneva Convention :(
Hotwife
02-02-2009, 19:16
I'd rather have a mud thrower. It's remarkably difficult to cover something with mud from a reasonable distance.

If you have enough high explosive...
Yootopia
02-02-2009, 19:17
If you have enough high explosive...
Eh I think I might be more on his wavelength here and you want to get people with a really satisfying mudball rather than lightly sprayed :tongue:
Lunatic Goofballs
02-02-2009, 19:25
Eh I think I might be more on his wavelength here and you want to get people with a really satisfying mudball rather than lightly sprayed :tongue:

If you have enough high explosive...

I was actually thinking about a fire hose for mud.
Hotwife
02-02-2009, 19:26
Eh I think I might be more on his wavelength here and you want to get people with a really satisfying mudball rather than lightly sprayed :tongue:

Dig a hole, and place a 44 Imperial gallon drum at a 45 degree angle in the hole.

Pack some dirt back in to secure the drum in place.

The drum should be empty, and one end open.

Place a 1 kilo charge of C-4 in the bottom of the drum, allowing the primacord to exit the drum to the firing point.

Line the drum with several layers of plastic bag, and then fill the drum with wet sloppy mud.

On detonation, the charge should lift neatly out of the drum, and fly towards your foe, who, being naughty in my sight...
Yootopia
02-02-2009, 19:26
I was actually thinking about a fire hose for mud.
65% wet mud, 30% pure water and 5% goose fat and you're set. The goose fat means it doesn't get stuck in the hose, the mud is muddy and the water gives you added range :)
Hotwife
02-02-2009, 19:29
65% wet mud, 30% pure water and 5% goose fat and you're set. The goose fat means it doesn't get stuck in the hose, the mud is muddy and the water gives you added range :)

All you need is one of those great fire engines from the airport, fill it up...
greed and death
02-02-2009, 19:39
God bless America and our weapons. funny thing is 6 of the owners of the mini gun live in Texas. I met them at the last machine gun convention/expo in long view Texas.
nice guys too. I think if Texas ever succeeded from the Union they have a good chance of winning.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-02-2009, 20:00
Dig a hole, and place a 44 Imperial gallon drum at a 45 degree angle in the hole.

Pack some dirt back in to secure the drum in place.

The drum should be empty, and one end open.

Place a 1 kilo charge of C-4 in the bottom of the drum, allowing the primacord to exit the drum to the firing point.

Line the drum with several layers of plastic bag, and then fill the drum with wet sloppy mud.

On detonation, the charge should lift neatly out of the drum, and fly towards your foe, who, being naughty in my sight...

Yay! :D
Call to power
02-02-2009, 20:04
I've always wanted to make my own custom weapon...and now paralyze an Abram

cracked is a bad influence :(
Tagmatium
02-02-2009, 20:08
I've always wanted to make my own custom weapon...and now paralyze an Abram

cracked is a bad influence :(
Could always try it with some cans of spray paint and paint up all the cameras and viewports and shit. Wouldn't really want to try it myself against a tank with dudes in it.
Call to power
02-02-2009, 22:29
Could always try it with some cans of spray paint and paint up all the cameras and viewports and shit. Wouldn't really want to try it myself against a tank with dudes in it.

I have my doubts that spray paint would stop infrared so I would personally go for this. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dH4PkOhrSn0)
Megaloria
02-02-2009, 22:31
I'd rather have a mud thrower. It's remarkably difficult to cover something with mud from a reasonable distance.

We call it Fox News, mostly.
Grave_n_idle
02-02-2009, 22:38
God bless America and our weapons. funny thing is 6 of the owners of the mini gun live in Texas. I met them at the last machine gun convention/expo in long view Texas.
nice guys too. I think if Texas ever succeeded from the Union they have a good chance of winning.

Why? Being 'nice' makes them resistant to bombs?
Conserative Morality
02-02-2009, 22:42
Why? Being 'nice' makes them resistant to bombs?

Texas is the Russia of the US, everyone there is out of their mind.
Grave_n_idle
02-02-2009, 22:50
Texas is the Russia of the US, everyone there is out of their mind.

And... that makes you resistant to bombs?

I'm not seeing how being loco, being nice, or having a minigun are effective secessionist tools in an age where your house can be somewhat precisely made into a crater from somewhere close to orbit.
Conserative Morality
02-02-2009, 23:00
And... that makes you resistant to bombs?


"Your arm's off."
"'Tis only a flesh wound."

Kinda...


I'm not seeing how being loco, being nice, or having a minigun are effective secessionist tools in an age where your house can be somewhat precisely made into a crater from somewhere close to orbit.
It's obvious that the Texans control all the military planes and satellites. Like the Illuminati, but a bit more open about it.:D
Third Spanish States
02-02-2009, 23:42
Seeing such article images I had a conclusion: this should be standard issue in all offices of the world:

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/legalities/weaponry.jpg
greed and death
02-02-2009, 23:55
And... that makes you resistant to bombs?

I'm not seeing how being loco, being nice, or having a minigun are effective secessionist tools in an age where your house can be somewhat precisely made into a crater from somewhere close to orbit.

if you haven't noticed these are modern mini guns. able to put out rates of fire akin to aircraft carrier Air defense. Link with a computer and a radar and it provides a decent defense.

though also worth noting that a large portion of the military is Texan on top of the largely armed Texan population, and that the state has a state guard(in addition to the Texas national guard but can't be nationalized) armed with F-22's(well 3) I could definitely see Texas after a long drawn out civil war becoming to state to provide leadership(in the tradition of Latin American dictators) or simply saying F it and leaving the other 49 states to their own devices.
Grave_n_idle
03-02-2009, 01:47
if you haven't noticed these are modern mini guns. able to put out rates of fire akin to aircraft carrier Air defense. Link with a computer and a radar and it provides a decent defense.

though also worth noting that a large portion of the military is Texan on top of the largely armed Texan population, and that the state has a state guard(in addition to the Texas national guard but can't be nationalized) armed with F-22's(well 3) I could definitely see Texas after a long drawn out civil war becoming to state to provide leadership(in the tradition of Latin American dictators) or simply saying F it and leaving the other 49 states to their own devices.

But, on the other - more realistic - hand, if the rest of the US objected, they'd pinpoint flatten what they consider military targets, and bomb the little Texas militias into craters if they so much as popped their minguns out of their bunkers.
greed and death
03-02-2009, 02:56
But, on the other - more realistic - hand, if the rest of the US objected, they'd pinpoint flatten what they consider military targets, and bomb the little Texas militias into craters if they so much as popped their minguns out of their bunkers.

except a large part of the federal military is made of Texans. they would clearly turn on those Yankees and flatten DC.
Grave_n_idle
03-02-2009, 03:09
except a large part of the federal military is made of Texans. they would clearly turn on those Yankees and flatten DC.

Maybe one in ten? That means 90% of the federal military is NOT Texas. It also means that Texans are outnumbered something like two-or-three to one JUST by Californians, Virginians and North Carolinians.

The Union can survive a Texan revolt. It can survive a Texan revolt without ever having to mobilise a Yankee.
Skallvia
03-02-2009, 03:13
Maybe one in ten? That means 90% of the federal military is NOT Texas. It also means that Texans are outnumbered something like two-or-three to one JUST by Californians, Virginians and North Carolinians.

The Union can survive a Texan revolt. It can survive a Texan revolt without ever having to mobilise a Yankee.

I think the real question is, Would North Carolinians and Virginians join them in this venture?
Wilgrove
03-02-2009, 03:33
I think the real question is, Would North Carolinians and Virginians join them in this venture?

Fuck no, we've learned out lesson with the CSA and the Civil War. Texas and Virginia are on their own.
Skallvia
03-02-2009, 03:37
Fuck no, we've learned out lesson with the CSA and the Civil War. Texas and Virginia are on their own.

Lol, well, At least you volunteered Virginia...
Wilgrove
03-02-2009, 03:40
Lol, well, At least you volunteered Virginia...

We're hoping Virgina gets completely flatten and North Carolina can expand it's borders.

You know, I think South Carolina, Georgia and Tenn. will also join Texas. :D
Skallvia
03-02-2009, 03:42
We're hoping Virgina gets completely flatten and North Carolina can expand it's borders.

You know, I think South Carolina, Georgia and Tenn. will also join Texas. :D

lmao...Sounds like Mississippi Expansion Opportunities arise as well.....hmm...
greed and death
03-02-2009, 04:31
Maybe one in ten? That means 90% of the federal military is NOT Texas. It also means that Texans are outnumbered something like two-or-three to one JUST by Californians, Virginians and North Carolinians.

The Union can survive a Texan revolt. It can survive a Texan revolt without ever having to mobilise a Yankee.

much closer to 1 out of 4 Texans. despite its large size Californians don't seem to join the military. and I am sure our other neighbors around the south will join. I think its a plot by the red states to join the military in mass.
Gauthier
03-02-2009, 04:47
In Texas, they could have an Imminent Zombie Attack Flamethrower Sale.
Daistallia 2104
03-02-2009, 04:51
I was actually thinking about a fire hose for mud.

What ya need is a kelly hose (aka mud hose) from a drilling rig.
greed and death
03-02-2009, 05:03
In Texas, they could have an Imminent Zombie Attack Flamethrower Sale.

thats how i got my last flame thrower. only cost me 25 dollars. there is talk of making flame thrower ownership mandatory just like guns.
Grave_n_idle
03-02-2009, 06:35
much closer to 1 out of 4 Texans. despite its large size Californians don't seem to join the military. and I am sure our other neighbors around the south will join. I think its a plot by the red states to join the military in mass.

Last I saw (2002) Texas was the most well-represented in terms of military strength, with almost 14%.

Where are you getting your numbers?
German Nightmare
03-02-2009, 06:54
I'd rather have a mud thrower. It's remarkably difficult to cover something with mud from a reasonable distance.
http://image.historisches-fachwerk.com/upload/image/I186_200521901535.JPG

There are mechanical mud-throwers out there (designed for plaster-work on house walls - they do, however, also work with mud!)
Gauntleted Fist
03-02-2009, 07:22
We're hoping Virgina gets completely flatten and North Carolina can expand it's borders.

You know, I think South Carolina, Georgia and Tenn. will also join Texas. :DHell, no. Not happening. :D

But, on the other - more realistic - hand, if the rest of the US objected, they'd pinpoint flatten what they consider military targets, and bomb the little Texas militias into craters if they so much as popped their minguns out of their bunkers.Especially with Egglands being so close.
greed and death
03-02-2009, 07:47
Last I saw (2002) Texas was the most well-represented in terms of military strength, with almost 14%.

Where are you getting your numbers?

just the number of Texans in the military when i was there. So yeah not objective numbers. but still 1/6 is pretty good. A few other southern states join in and the south will rise again this time.
Gauntleted Fist
03-02-2009, 07:53
just the number of Texans in the military when i was there. So yeah not objective numbers. but still 1/6 is pretty good. A few other southern states join in and the south will rise again this time.Assuming the military members don't give Texas the big "Fuck you! :upyours:" when it comes time to actually, you know, fight again. Because I don't think anyone in the Armed Forces is too keen on dying or killing other Americans. o_0;
greed and death
03-02-2009, 08:00
Assuming the military members don't give Texas the big "Fuck you! :upyours:" when it comes time to actually, you know, fight again. Because I don't think anyone in the Armed Forces is too keen on dying or killing other Americans. o_0;

Th south is why do you think it has been slowly taking over the military.

We are prepping to take over the north via military Americans over powerful military machine. and the fun part is we will cancel the debt causing and replace the US dollar with a gold back currency causing all economies of the world to spiral out of control.
Port Arcana
03-02-2009, 09:02
I loved the stapler gun with the spikes on it. Although I always thought a crossbow model would be much more sophisticated. :)
One-O-One
03-02-2009, 09:26
No 6 is better:

Salvia Divinorum

Get it while it's still legal!

Rather, get a plant while it's still legal.;)
The Lone Alliance
03-02-2009, 09:28
Link (http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html)

Look at all the crap that are legal! :D I will now buy a flame thrower!

If you read the "Banned weapons list" on schools it's also legal to bring them to school.

Nothing in there on flamethrower as it's not propelling any solid object.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-02-2009, 13:09
What ya need is a kelly hose (aka mud hose) from a drilling rig.

http://image.historisches-fachwerk.com/upload/image/I186_200521901535.JPG

There are mechanical mud-throwers out there (designed for plaster-work on house walls - they do, however, also work with mud!)

*takes notes*
Daistallia 2104
03-02-2009, 17:09
http://image.historisches-fachwerk.com/upload/image/I186_200521901535.JPG

There are mechanical mud-throwers out there (designed for plaster-work on house walls - they do, however, also work with mud!)

:eek: We're giving advice on thowing mud to LG? :eek:
Call to power
03-02-2009, 17:53
And... that makes you resistant to bombs?

would you throw a bomb at that much ammunition?

If you read the "Banned weapons list" on schools it's also legal to bring them to school.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5886/threadlikewheregoing753cr5.jpg
Lunatic Goofballs
03-02-2009, 19:15
:eek: We're giving advice on thowing mud to LG? :eek:

Mwa Hahahahahaaa!!!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif
No Names Left Damn It
03-02-2009, 21:03
I think if Texas ever succeeded from the Union they have a good chance of winning.

Seceded, and no. 6 civilian miniguns won't do shit against nukes, an airforce, well equipped army etc.
Conserative Morality
03-02-2009, 21:37
Seceded, and no. 6 civilian miniguns won't do shit against nukes, an airforce, well equipped army etc.

We're willing to nuke Texas? Since when are we willing to nuke ANYTHING?
Gauntleted Fist
03-02-2009, 23:16
Seceded, and no. 6 civilian miniguns won't do shit against nukes, an airforce, well equipped army etc.No, they won't.

We're willing to nuke Texas? Since when are we willing to nuke ANYTHING?Civil War would probably cause some...bad decisions.
>.>
<.<
Grave_n_idle
03-02-2009, 23:17
We're willing to nuke Texas? Since when are we willing to nuke ANYTHING?

Did Bush get back there, yet...
Daistallia 2104
04-02-2009, 06:10
We're willing to nuke Texas? Since when are we willing to nuke ANYTHING?

Errrmmmm... how about August 6, 1945, and again on August 9, 1945...

(Has history education in the US really gotten so bad that we forget being the only country to use nuclear weapons? :()

I 'spect I'mma gonna regret opening this can of worms...
Grave_n_idle
04-02-2009, 10:02
Errrmmmm... how about August 6, 1945, and again on August 9, 1945...

(Has history education in the US really gotten so bad that we forget being the only country to use nuclear weapons? :()

I 'spect I'mma gonna regret opening this can of worms...

Oh you and your facts and your history.
Daistallia 2104
04-02-2009, 17:49
Oh you and your facts and your history.

It's rather hard to forget if one's lived in Nagasaki...
Conserative Morality
04-02-2009, 17:55
Errrmmmm... how about August 6, 1945, and again on August 9, 1945...

(Has history education in the US really gotten so bad that we forget being the only country to use nuclear weapons? :()

I 'spect I'mma gonna regret opening this can of worms...

I'm talking about after that little episode. We didn't fully understand the effects that nuclear weapons had back then.
Hotwife
04-02-2009, 18:00
It's rather hard to forget if one's lived in Nagasaki...

Hey, look at the bright side, the city seems to have recovered quite well, all things considered.
New Wallonochia
04-02-2009, 18:29
But, on the other - more realistic - hand, if the rest of the US objected, they'd pinpoint flatten what they consider military targets, and bomb the little Texas militias into craters if they so much as popped their minguns out of their bunkers.

And since Texas has only a single squadron of fighters (F-16s to be precise) they'd lose air superiority in about 30 seconds.

Of course, you're assuming the rest of the states wouldn't just tell Texas not to let the door hit them on the way out.
Wilgrove
04-02-2009, 20:42
And since Texas has only a single squadron of fighters (F-16s to be precise) they'd lose air superiority in about 30 seconds.

Of course, you're assuming the rest of the states wouldn't just tell Texas not to let the door hit them on the way out.

Trust me, if they didn't let CSA leave the nation, they won't let Texas leave either.
Hotwife
04-02-2009, 20:45
The New Hampshire Legislature will debate a state bill on 10 February that is based on Thomas Jefferson's work in favor of states' rights (Kentucky Resolutions). The Bill (HCR 0006)would tell the federal government thanks but no thanks on matters where power has not been given to the Feds by the states.

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.u...on/2009/HCR0006.html

"That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:

I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and

That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government; and

That copies of this resolution be transmitted by the house clerk to the President of the United States, each member of the United States Congress, and the presiding officers of each State's legislature. "
Dylsexic Untied
04-02-2009, 21:05
Trust me, if they didn't let CSA leave the nation, they won't let Texas leave either.

Idk, everyone hates Texas, and we did try to keep them out of the Union. They had to apply twice, and if I remember correctly, it was a very narrow win for acceptance.
New Wallonochia
04-02-2009, 21:37
Trust me, if they didn't let CSA leave the nation, they won't let Texas leave either.

Things were a lot different in 1861.

*snip*

That sounds a bit like a rehash of the 10th Amendment resolutions that were floating around in the 90s.