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Why...that's just crazy enough to work!

by the way, what WoW server?

by the way, what WoW server?

Like it matters, you're the slowest leveler on the planet.

Like it matters, you're the slowest leveler on the planet.

Not true. I am sure there's a blind quadrapalegic out there who plays by blowing into a tube.

Not true. I am sure there's a blind quadrapalegic out there who plays by blowing into a tube.

There is and he just cleared Naxxramas last week.

Not true. I am sure there's a blind quadrapalegic out there who plays by blowing into a tube.

He started playing around the same time you did. He's already level 14.

by the way, what WoW server?

Alliance on Skywall, Horde on Kul Tiras.

Alliance on Skywall, Horde on Kul Tiras.

suck. We have some NSG people on Hyjal. And by "some" I mean my warrior who has put on 12 levels in a month, poli who keeps insisting that I play more, and Deus who laughs at me.

Nobody loves me :(

Alliance on Skywall, Horde on Kul Tiras.

Really? Nice. I've got a buddy on Skywall from back when I used to play Alliance.

You should check out Hyjal, where the rest of these numpties are, on the Horde side.

suck. We have some NSG people on Hyjal. And by "some" I mean my warrior who has put on 12 levels in a month, poli who keeps insisting that I play more, and Deus who laughs at me.

Nobody loves me :(

We would if you'd work a little faster. :p

I got fed up finally and made a deathknight so I can powerlevel you guys. Apparently Dem and a few others are on that server as well, though less active.

Alliance on Skywall, Horde on Kul Tiras.

Horde on Kul Tiras? Small world, ain't it? Jowbulla's my handle there.

Really? Nice. I've got a buddy on Skywall from back when I used to play Alliance.

You should check out Hyjal, where the rest of these numpties are, on the Horde side.

in seriousness, if you want the info Bottle, TG me.

We would if you'd work a little faster. :p

Dude, I work 10 hours a freaking day, I'm home at 7 and up at 6:45, how much time do you think I have? :p

Besides, this is WoW, shouldn't I have, like..started with a raid lvl toon?

Dude, I work 10 hours a freaking day, I'm home at 7 and up at 6:45, how much time do you think I have? :p

Besides, this is WoW, shouldn't I have, like..started with a raid lvl toon?

You have to work for it, and don't think I've got all the time in the world to level either.

Let me send you the Horde levelling guide. It should speed the process up. I made it from 1-55 in about a month using it.

suck. We have some NSG people on Hyjal. And by "some" I mean my warrior who has put on 12 levels in a month, poli who keeps insisting that I play more, and Deus who laughs at me.

Nobody loves me :(
Fail on all of you for not reading my mind and rolling on my server.

Really? Nice. I've got a buddy on Skywall from back when I used to play Alliance.

You should check out Hyjal, where the rest of these numpties are, on the Horde side.
At least the numpties have the good sense to roll Horde. I had three Alliance 70s before I came to my senses.

Horde on Kul Tiras? Small world, ain't it? Jowbulla's my handle there.
It's a small world (of warcraft) after all, it's a small world (of warcraft) aaaafter all...!
Adorabull. Yes, a cow pun, sue me.


in seriousness, if you want the info Bottle, TG me.
No need, I'll just roll a lvl 1 alt and spam trade chat looking for the NSG noobsicles.

Fail on all of you for not reading my mind and rolling on my server.

Frankly, I could practically reroll but poli would kill me...


No need,

Fine, don't talk to me.

I'll just roll a lvl 1 alt and spam trade chat looking for the NSG noobsicles.

I...don't know how chat works yet :(

Here you folks go. I figured I'd just give you your own little thread so you don't have to hijack the other one. :)

by the way, what WoW server?

WoW is too lame for words. If you're going to play online, play EVE.

WoW is too lame for words. If you're going to play online, play EVE.

EVE... a game where you park your ship next to an asteroid and let it farm for you while you go play another game. Sounds exciting. I prefer Age of Conan. It certainly satisfies my blood lust.

Here you folks go. I figured I'd just give you your own little thread so you don't have to hijack the other one. :)

pft please, like this wasn't an improvement to that other thread :p

Lothar, Horde.

Eban (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Eban) Mage 80
Geon (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Geon) Warrior 80

I also have a rogue I'm working on. I've avoided the Deathknight plague that's infesting the servers. Overpowered bastards.

WoW is too lame for words. If you're going to play online, play EVE.

yeah, I want to play a game where it's more advantageous of me to log off

EVE... a game where you park your ship next to an asteroid and let it farm for you while you go play another game. Sounds exciting. I prefer Age of Conan. It certainly satisfies my blood lust.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. I prefer a game where people can't get away if you want to blow them up.

I believe that any game with consensual PVP is too lame for words.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. I prefer a game where people can't get away if you want to blow them up.

I believe that any game with consensual PVP is too lame for words.

AoC doesn't have consensual PvP. Go on any PvP server there and you'll soon find out that there is no mercy. You can cry to Crom, Mitra and Set yet none will help you as one of the many n00b rangers pins your hide to the ground and has his little friends swarm you as you try in vain to solo that one quest you've been trying to finish for the last hour. Puts a whole new meaning to 'ganked'.

WoW has both. If you're on the same side you ask to duel; if you're on opposite sides, you can ambush and slaughter the other SOB.

AoC doesn't have consensual PvP. Go on any PvP server there and you'll soon find out that there is no mercy. You can cry to Crom, Mitra and Set yet none will help you as one of the many n00b rangers pins your hide to the ground and has his little friends swarm you as you try in vain to solo that one quest you've been trying to finish for the last hour.

Still too many rules.

I also like a game that includes player created scams, player politics, and virtually no rules. EVE is unique in that way.

EVE... a game where you park your ship next to an asteroid and let it farm for you while you go play another game. Sounds exciting. I prefer Age of Conan. It certainly satisfies my blood lust.

I play WAR but I'm only in it for the PVP anyway. I tried playing WoW but I just can't stand the PVE content.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. I prefer a game where people can't get away if you want to blow them up.

I believe that any game with consensual PVP is too lame for words.
If I want PvP, I play a PvP game.

If I want PvE, I play...well, I play WoW right now, because frankly it's the best game in town for PvE. Even if there are elves in it.

I play WAR but I'm only in it for the PVP anyway. I tried playing WoW but I just can't stand the PVE content.

the WAR scenarios are pretty cool actually.

If I want PvP, I play a PvP game.

If I want PvE, I play...well, I play WoW right now, because frankly it's the best game in town for PvE. Even if there are elves in it.

come make a cow on hyjal! I might actually have time to play tonight!

If I want PvP, I play a PvP game.

If I want PvE, I play...well, I play WoW right now, because frankly it's the best game in town for PvE. Even if there are elves in it.

I've done a pvp server (Deathwing), honestly it was just irritating. Constantly having to deal with bored griefers who thought killing people who had no prayer against them was good fun.

WoW itself isn't bad, but still too cartoonish and not nearly enough blood to satisfy my blood lust.

yeah, I want to play a game where it's more advantageous of me to log off
And yeah, um, this.

And yeah, um, this.

seriously, I played eve for about 2 days, until someone told me "oh, you don't have to be online to learn skills".

It literally then occured to me that from a pure maximization of fun standpoint, it's actually BETTER to NOT play the game, and do something I have more fun while I skill up automatically, than slogging through lowbie levels.

If a game is more fun when you're logged off, something's wrong.

I've been a full-on Warcraft scholar since back in Orcs Vs. Humans, so the PvE is my main draw for the game - advancing plot and the sense of having a part in it (I know, I know, even though everyone else killed Illidan too). I tried LotRO, but it was pretty much WoW without the clean look to it. I played AoC, but the endgame content was nonexistent. To both those games' credit, I got the special edition packs, because the art books are beautiful, the soundtracks are gorgeous, and the extra stuff looks nice too. I don't expect I'll be playing any other MMOs until whenever Star Trek Online comes out, and that's mostly because several of my friends are playing, and because I want to deep fry some tribbles.

the WAR scenarios are pretty cool actually.

What I do is queue up for scenarios and do my homework, paint Guardsmen or read while I'm waiting.

What I do is queue up for scenarios and do my homework, paint Guardsmen or read while I'm waiting.

this is why I don't do horde lists. I don't have the patience to paint 37 models and go "well, there's 100 points, 1900 left to go!"

yeah, I want to play a game where it's more advantageous of me to log off

I make most of my kills on people who are stupid enough to log off in combat.

I make most of my kills on people who are stupid enough to log off in combat.
Heh, this isn't really a selling point, you know.

"This game is great PvP! I get most of my points by killing people who actually aren't even at their computer!"

I was a day one player and I always played a Mage and never ever had an alt at the same time except for banking purposes. Always was in the top one or two raiding guilds on server, I even had 1 character with over 400 days /played. I sold 2 characters on Ebay one for $850 and one for $1000.

Then i had to quit because WC done right is incompatible with living with a woman with children.

Heh, this isn't really a selling point, you know.

"This game is great PvP! I get most of my points by killing people who actually aren't even at their computer!"

and they're not at their computer because they likely got so bored out of their minds that death came as a sweet, sweet release.

And seriously. You, horde, Hyjal, go there.

this is why I don't do horde lists. I don't have the patience to paint 37 models and go "well, there's 100 points, 1900 left to go!"

Yeah, if/when I do another army it'll be something like Ravenwing or Death Guard so I don't need a small trailer to haul my army around.

Of course, with the new Guard codex coming in March I don't see myself starting a new army for quite a while.

LLLLLEEEEEEEERRRRRROOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYY JJJJJJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKIIIIIIINNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSs

Alliance on Skywall, Horde on Kul Tiras.

You know, you mentioned you were on Skywall before, and I totally meant to say hello with one of my Skywall toons, but then all my friends abandoned Skywall and I let those characters languish. Stupid friends.

You should come play on Hyjal. I am forming an NSG guild there! *nodnod*

Heh, this isn't really a selling point, you know.

"This game is great PvP! I get most of my points by killing people who actually aren't even at their computer!"

It's great because they die, I get their loot, they could have stayed to fight - but no, they're afraid of looking bad...

Hunting them down again and again and again really provokes an interesting reaction in them, especially when they find out there isn't a mod that's going to help them.

Running a protection racket - try that in some other game.

Enjoy your broken page!

MODEDIT - No one has to now. I fixed it.

Horde on Turalyon. Used to raid too much, got sick of wiping on Kil'jaeden, quit, just started playing again a month or so ago. Got my shaman to 80 and in Naxx-25, still haven't bothered levelling any of my alts. So, all told, I have an 80 shaman, 70 warrior, 70 hunter, and 63 priest, all horde, all Turalyon. I've been thinking about rerolling alliance for a while, but I can never bring myself to stick with it. I get to about 20, join LFG for some runs, get thoroughly sick of what I hear, and go back to my horde toons.

Profession levelling in WotLK is absolutely retarded and I hate it.

It's great because they die, I get their loot, they could have stayed to fight - but no, they're afraid of looking bad...

Hunting them down again and again and again really provokes an interesting reaction in them, especially when they find out there isn't a mod that's going to help them.

Running a protection racket - try that in some other game.

So you like a game that lets you be a total asshole to other people. I'm shocked.

It's great because they die, I get their loot, they could have stayed to fight - but no, they're afraid of looking bad...

Hunting them down again and again and again really provokes an interesting reaction in them, especially when they find out there isn't a mod that's going to help them.

Running a protection racket - try that in some other game.
Pfft, if I want to beat up an unsuspecting target and jack their stuff, I just go mug elementary school kids for lunch money. Why pansy around being an internet bully when you can be one IRL?

Running a protection racket - try that in some other game.

I think the question is, why would I want to?

Pfft, if I want to beat up an unsuspecting target and jack their stuff, I just go mug elementary school kids for lunch money. Why pansy around being an internet bully when you can be one IRL?

Because IRL it's illegal and you get sent to prison, where you find out pretty quick you're not the bully. Online it's all fun and games until you jack the wrong person and get spanked. Then of course you can just logoff.

I think the question is, why would I want to?

I guess "to be a prick" is too obvious an answer?

Meh, I don't play WoW. When someone near me talks about WoW, I immedietly say ''Wow sucks!''.

Meh, I don't play WoW. When someone near me talks about WoW, I immedietly say ''Wow sucks!''.

So you've not played it and you don't like it, but you have an opinion as to it's quality?

So you've not played it and you don't like it, but you have an opinion as to it's quality?

It's more to annoy people. I don't ean it and would try it but there's the fees.

So you've not played it and you don't like it, but you have an opinion as to it's quality?

*poke poke* what server? And I've now met Khadgar the character in Shattrath. He's kind of a tool. Dear mods, if you're reading this post and treating it as a flame, please check this article: http://www.wowwiki.com/Khadgar and note I am referencing the character and not Khadgar the poster. /cya

You know, you mentioned you were on Skywall before, and I totally meant to say hello with one of my Skywall toons, but then all my friends abandoned Skywall and I let those characters languish. Stupid friends.

You should come play on Hyjal. I am forming an NSG guild there! *nodnod*

A guild of which I am soon to be the highest level character. :D

*poke poke* what server? And I've now met Khadgar the character in Shattrath. He's kind of a tool. Dear mods, if you're reading this post and treating it as a flame, please check this article: http://www.wowwiki.com/Khadgar and note I am referencing the character and not Khadgar the poster. /cya

If you'd done what he's done in his lifetime, you'd probably be a bit of a tool too.

And it looks like I may have to make yet another alt to see what this NSG guild is all about.

If you'd done what he's done in his lifetime, you'd probably be a bit of a tool too.

And it looks like I may have to make yet another alt to see what this NSG guild is all about.

Right now it's a bunch of bums who never log in (And Neo Art, who logs in but is slow as hell at leveling). But it should pick up.

Right now it's a bunch of bums who never log in (And Neo Art, who logs in but is slow as hell at leveling). But it should pick up.

Alright. later tonight I may hit this thread up with my details once i make a character. This Horde-side or Alliance?

Alright. later tonight I may hit this thread up with my details once i make a character. This Horde-side or Alliance?

Horde. Once you're in, add Euphont as a friend, that's my shiny new Deathknight I just rolled there to avoid leveling 1-80 all over again.

Argh... must resist urge to start another bloody WoW character on yet another server...

If I weren't in the wrong time zone, it might be worth it.

Argh... must resist urge to start another bloody WoW character on yet another server...

If I weren't in the wrong time zone, it might be worth it.

do it!

*poke poke* what server? And I've now met Khadgar the character in Shattrath. He's kind of a tool. Dear mods, if you're reading this post and treating it as a flame, please check this article: http://www.wowwiki.com/Khadgar and note I am referencing the character and not Khadgar the poster. /cya

I was confused. Thought maybe you've played on Lothar.

We do have a couple of Aussies on Hyjal already (Horde side, to remind people), so even people in weird timezones might have company. :)

Send a letter or whisper to Livania (that's me, your friendly neighborhood GM-to-be) if you want to sign the budding guild's charter.

I was confused. Thought maybe you've played on Lothar.

Nope, meant the character itself.

Though I've had characters on enough servers that I might as well have had one on Lothar, heh. Alleria, Andorhal, Dark Iron, Emerald Dream, Gul'Dan, Hyjal, Kargath, Madoran, and Mal'Ganis, to name a few.

What is the appeal of WoW?

I like RPGs but I've never understood the attraction of MMORPGs.

Ah... I take it you are playing on a US server?

Unless the forums are lying to me, to start a character there I'd have to get the US version of the game. Which is a bit more trouble than I really want to go to, fun though it would be to join your crazy guild.

What is the appeal of WoW?

I like RPGs but I've never understood the attraction of MMORPGs.

Not any easy question to answer, since you put it like that.
What's the appeal of skydiving, trainspotting, windsurfing, or stamp collecting? The things which activate the 'this is fun!' response in one person's brain may have no appeal at all to another person.

Ah... I take it you are playing on a US server?

Unless the forums are lying to me, to start a character there I'd have to get the US version of the game. Which is a bit more trouble than I really want to go to, fun though it would be to join your crazy guild.

You can't just select the US server list? I know we can select European and Oceanian servers, at least in theory.

You can't just select the US server list? I know we can select European and Oceanian servers, at least in theory.

US servers don't even appear on my list, as far as I know. There's certainly no Hyjal option if I open up the realm list.

Do you want to try accessing a European server, just to see? Mine is Aszune, I've a feeling it would be down as EU-Aszune on your list.

ADD:

Q: Can I play on the US realms with my European account?
A: This is an option that will be made available in the future, but we cannot give more details about this at the moment. Please watch the main websites for announcements about this.

I doubt it will be happening any time soon. Maybe if I get an Order of the Stick avatar, would that help?

What is the appeal of WoW?

I like RPGs but I've never understood the attraction of MMORPGs.
I like MMORPGs, but I've never been able to figure out the appeal of WoW, either. It looks remarkably pointless to me, even for an MMORPG. I must have just gone there with the wrong people, because it can't be that dull if it's so popular.

I mostly find it quite fun to play with friends. By oneself, it's reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. Running through a dungeon with friends, though, is pretty great fun. :)

Pictish: That's so weird. I'd swear I've been able to access European realms; that really sucks if you're screwed out of doing the reverse. Silly Blizzard. :(

I mostly find it quite fun to play with friends. By oneself, it's reasonably entertaining, but nothing special. Running through a dungeon with friends, though, is pretty great fun. :)

I guess...if you say so... I've never been that into dungeons. There's such a deadly sameness to mobs. When you've killed/been killed by one, you've killed/been killed by them all. That's been my experience, anyway. Is there much else to do in WoW?

I guess...if you say so... I've never been that into dungeons. There's such a deadly sameness to mobs. When you've killed/been killed by one, you've killed/been killed by them all. That's been my experience, anyway. Is there much else to do in WoW?

Well, this is why I tend to play on PVP servers. It's considerably more enjoyable. But these guys didn't want to be on a PVP server, presumably because they suck. :p

Well, this is why I tend to play on PVP servers. It's considerably more enjoyable. But these guys didn't want to be on a PVP server, presumably because they suck. :p
Well, I suck too, then. I hate PvP. I like the idea of player versus player fighting, but I detest most PvPers that I've met, I don't give a flying rat's ass about points or levels or gear, I especially don't care about talking about that stuff. And I have never met any PvPer who would play the way I'd like to play -- one on one duels between relatively evenly matched players, fight to the death, winner take all. Everyone I've ever suggested that to has cyber-looked at me cyber-aghast. But really, what's the point otherwise?

In any event, since no one ever wanted to do that with me, I've only ever been interested in games where I could do a lot of exploring and get game-rich. There are hardly any of those that will run on a Mac.

Well, I suck too, then. I hate PvP. I like the idea of player versus player fighting, but I detest most PvPers that I've met, I don't give a flying rat's ass about points or levels or gear, I especially don't care about talking about that stuff. And I have never met any PvPer who would play the way I'd like to play -- one on one duels between relatively evenly matched players, fight to the death, winner take all. Everyone I've ever suggested that to has cyber-looked at me cyber-aghast. But really, what's the point otherwise?

In any event, since no one ever wanted to do that with me, I've only ever been interested in games where I could do a lot of exploring and get game-rich. There are hardly any of those that will run on a Mac.

Most of the pvp I've found on WoW in Battlegrounds is less about armor and gear and more about coordination and strategy. Especially a tight zone like Arathi Basin where you've basically got to capture several points on the field while fending them off from the other side. There's also a sort of playful competition often between players in contested (pvp active) zones, as I've found that most players don't go out of their way to be pricks to other players. The biggest problem I have with WoW's pvp is the fact that it's currently impossible to communicate with the other side outside of basic emotes.

Most of the pvp I've found on WoW in Battlegrounds is less about armor and gear and more about coordination and strategy. Especially a tight zone like Arathi Basin where you've basically got to capture several points on the field while fending them off from the other side. There's also a sort of playful competition often between players in contested (pvp active) zones, as I've found that most players don't go out of their way to be pricks to other players. The biggest problem I have with WoW's pvp is the fact that it's currently impossible to communicate with the other side outside of basic emotes.
That seems weird. Why do they do that?

That seems weird. Why do they do that?

Personally I think it's to cut down on taunting, but ostensibly it's a language barrier worked into the game. It's fairly silly though, considering that the Undead, who were once human, can't communicate with the humans, the Blood Elves, who were once allies with the humans, dwarves, and gnomes, can't talk to any of them, and the Tauren (big cow people) can't talk to the Night Elves despite them both essentially sharing an entire town together.

I've always felt it was an idiotic mechanic.

Personally I think it's to cut down on taunting, but ostensibly it's a language barrier worked into the game. It's fairly silly though, considering that the Undead, who were once human, can't communicate with the humans, the Blood Elves, who were once allies with the humans, dwarves, and gnomes, can't talk to any of them, and the Tauren (big cow people) can't talk to the Night Elves despite them both essentially sharing an entire town together.

I've always felt it was an idiotic mechanic.

Yeah, I've thought for ages that languages should be among the learnable skills - it'd be more realistic anyway, and would make it possible to say things like, "Dude, seriously, I just got killed 15 times in a row by a jackass level 70. Please can you leave me alone at least until I finish killing this boss?" - which would make PvP suck less, in my opinion.

Yeah, I've thought for ages that languages should be among the learnable skills - it'd be more realistic anyway, and would make it possible to say things like, "Dude, seriously, I just got killed 15 times in a row by a jackass level 70. Please can you leave me alone at least until I finish killing this boss?" - which would make PvP suck less, in my opinion.
Hehe. :D That reminds me why I don't like PvP servers. I know I'm impossible to please and all, but although I do like MMORPGs in principle, conceptually, I really don't like anything that doesn't let me basically "turn off" most of the people around me -- even in cartoon form.

Feh, and anyway, I don't like the character art in WoW that much.

so after a year of not playing, I decided to pick up BC and a 60 day card. let's see what kind of fun I can cause in the next two months :D

so after a year of not playing, I decided to pick up BC and a 60 day card. let's see what kind of fun I can cause in the next two months :D

hyjal!

hyjal!

Horde or Alliance? Outland or Azeroth?

I just started playing again. I have a Dwarf Death Knight.

Unfortunitally, I cant play anytime soon, because for some reason whenever I try and download the new patch, my computer crashes.

I think Ill just have my brother email me the file.

Horde or Alliance? Outland or Azeroth?

horde azeroth.

horde azeroth.

Once I finish installing and patching, I'll get on it. Though at the snail's pace the PC is going at atm, it might take awhile.

Level 1 with no high level toons to send stuff to myself(4 70+ on moonrunner).
shaman cow. Hayrek.
I usually play at weird times because of insomnia.

I have never played WoW. I don't even know anyone (In my home town.) that owns the game.
...Wow. :eek:

I have two problems with WoW

1. I don't like paying to play

2. I don't like games that rely heavily on multiplayer...WoW can be played alone, but really, what's the point? I prefer my gaming to be on my schedule, not someone else's.

I played through 3 free accounts during my first semester at uni. Too busy to actually buy a subscription with school and all.

Level 12 Human Wizard
Level 7 Troll Hunter
Level 15 Undead Priest

Hmm, I haven't played WoW in 2 and a half years. Did you guys start from the beginning or later on? That's real dedication(/addiction) if you've been going for 5 years.

I played from release until about June 06, had a top level rogue (when 60 was the highest), raided for a while (I think Blackwing lair was the highest I completed, but this is pre-expansion) but that just kind of burned me out.

I tried to play WoW but it was just too simple and the 'art' was zomg wtf rofl and so many people looked like carbon copies of one another - I think I managed to do 1 quest with my little Dwarf warrior before deciding the game definately wasn't for me.

Everquest2 used to be really fun to play, that was a challenging game and the graphics, scenery, artwork and plethora of differences between characters always took my fancy. It feels like it has been n00bed however and so has lost the appeal that I once had for it =[ ...saaad panda...

EVE I really like the concept of, the reality is too boring for me to actually pay to play it though... which is unfortunate 'cos it looks fantastic.

WAR was fun for a bit but I couldn't get into the game or my characters very much so kind of lost any sort of passion to play it properly - was rolling an Orc Squig Herder and a Dark Elf Swordguy.
:P

Am currently playing Planetside for a bit, have always liked that game but only in short doses like once a year - unfortunately the Euro server is kinda... dead so have had to join the American server and start with a new character - reached BR6 last night.
:fluffle:

I played from final beta (2005 was it?), and bought the game two days after the European launch. My subscription ran out two weeks ago, and with the current state of raiding in WotlK, I didn't bother renewing it. It's not fun when they've taken all the challenge out of it.

If I hear news that the raiding will improve, I will probably renew it. Paladin tanking has been loads fun in WotlK.

I played from final beta (2005 was it?), and bought the game two days after the European launch. My subscription ran out two weeks ago, and with the current state of raiding in WotlK, I didn't bother renewing it. It's not fun when they've taken all the challenge out of it.

If I hear news that the raiding will improve, I will probably renew it. Paladin tanking has been loads fun in WotlK.

Only issue I have with raiding is 25 mans are easier than the 10 mans. Mostly because they just took the 10 man raid and doubled mob health. I'm sure all you clever sorts can see the problem with that. The only challenge in a 25 man raid is convincing folks wearing greens that they really ought no be there.

Only issue I have with raiding is 25 mans are easier than the 10 mans. Mostly because they just took the 10 man raid and doubled mob health. I'm sure all you clever sorts can see the problem with that. The only challenge in a 25 man raid is convincing folks wearing greens that they really ought no be there.

You could always go for the achievements. The under-21-man achievement should be a decent challenge. Personally, if I ever get the "no one dies on Heigan" achievement, I might just quit WoW, because I would have beaten the game.

Only issue I have with raiding is 25 mans are easier than the 10 mans. Mostly because they just took the 10 man raid and doubled mob health. I'm sure all you clever sorts can see the problem with that. The only challenge in a 25 man raid is convincing folks wearing greens that they really ought no be there.

Sometimes I miss vanilla-WoW. Where raiding actually meant something, now they just hand out purples like candy.

On that note, is Ulduar out yet, and if it is, is it any good?

7 hours and 5 patches later, I think I might be all caught up. However, I've had to make the little trip over to uni to the day, so all potential playing will not commence for another 9 and a half hours.

7 hours and 5 patches later, I think I might be all caught up. However, I've had to make the little trip over to uni to the day, so all potential playing will not commence for another 9 and a half hours.

I should be online on then. If you make a character on Hyjal, send me a TG.

Sometimes I miss vanilla-WoW. Where raiding actually meant something, now they just hand out purples like candy.

On that note, is Ulduar out yet, and if it is, is it any good?

Nostalgia wears rose-colored glasses. You look back on vanilla WoW and you think raiding was better then, but be honest. Did you actually enjoy the endless tank and spank of Molten Core? Did you actually enjoy beating a boss, only to have it drop three pieces of tier loot for your already-geared warlocks/warriors/druids/etc.? Did you actually enjoy competing with 39 other people for the 3 pieces of shitty gear that dropped off most bosses? Did you actually enjoy raids where 15 people carried the other 25 AFKing, trash-pulling, boss-aggroing, sheep-breaking mouthbreathers? Naxxramas was the only decent raid in vanilla WoW. I'll admit sometimes I look back and wish some things from vanilla WoW hadn't changed, but then I realize that, overall, raiding is in a much better place now than it was back at 60.

Nostalgia wears rose-colored glasses. You look back on vanilla WoW and you think raiding was better then, but be honest. Did you actually enjoy the endless tank and spank of Molten Core? Did you actually enjoy beating a boss, only to have it drop three pieces of tier loot for your already-geared warlocks/warriors/druids/etc.? Did you actually enjoy competing with 39 other people for the 3 pieces of shitty gear that dropped off most bosses? Did you actually enjoy raids where 15 people carried the other 25 AFKing, trash-pulling, boss-aggroing, sheep-breaking mouthbreathers? Naxxramas was the only decent raid in vanilla WoW. I'll admit sometimes I look back and wish some things from vanilla WoW hadn't changed, but then I realize that, overall, raiding is in a much better place now than it was back at 60.

wow, reminds me of old EQ. But back in my day we didn't have things like "raid chat" or "raid groups", or even filtered windows. We used /shout to communicate AND WE LIKED IT.

Actually that's a lie, it sucked hard.

wow, reminds me of old EQ. But back in my day we didn't have things like "raid chat" or "raid groups", or even filtered windows. We used /shout to communicate AND WE LIKED IT.

Actually that's a lie, it sucked hard.

Raiding in vanilla sucked donkey cock. There's just no escaping it. Raiding has definitely taken a step back from TBC to WotLK, but raiding now certainly isn't as mind-numbingly boring as it was in vanilla, no matter how easy it is.

Nostalgia wears rose-colored glasses. You look back on vanilla WoW and you think raiding was better then, but be honest. Did you actually enjoy the endless tank and spank of Molten Core? Did you actually enjoy beating a boss, only to have it drop three pieces of tier loot for your already-geared warlocks/warriors/druids/etc.? Did you actually enjoy competing with 39 other people for the 3 pieces of shitty gear that dropped off most bosses? Did you actually enjoy raids where 15 people carried the other 25 AFKing, trash-pulling, boss-aggroing, sheep-breaking mouthbreathers? Naxxramas was the only decent raid in vanilla WoW. I'll admit sometimes I look back and wish some things from vanilla WoW hadn't changed, but then I realize that, overall, raiding is in a much better place now than it was back at 60.

I wouldn't want to play Vanilla-WoW, I just miss the general feel of it, although there are many things I prefer now. Molten Core I don't miss one bit. Been there too many times. But after that (BWL+), raiding was actually a challenge. I did enjoy that hard raid bosses, and very expensive crafts, were the only epics. 40-man I don't miss, but I think 25 is too low, 30 would be a decent number.

I don't mind progress, I've liked WotlK quite a lot, the scenery and all, but raiding has just been too easy. I'm not one of the people who is crying for a 'Vanilla-WoW server' either. I played Vanilla WoW 4 years ago, and I regard myself as done with it, but there certainly are some elements I would welcome back (rank system not being one of them!).

Raiding in vanilla sucked donkey cock. There's just no escaping it. Raiding has definitely taken a step back from TBC to WotLK, but raiding now certainly isn't as mind-numbingly boring as it was in vanilla, no matter how easy it is.

Each to his own then I reckon. I actually liked that warriors were tanks, and priests/druids/shamans/paladins were healers. And I played a dwarf priest! (Don't mock me, I didn't go dwarf for the fear ward, they are just made of win, and my main is a dwarf paladin now).

Orc Shaman Thrag reporting for duty. Not sure what tree I'll eventually go, but I got to level 7 last evening in the hour between getting home from work and playing Traveller.

I wouldn't want to play Vanilla-WoW, I just miss the general feel of it, although there are many things I prefer now. Molten Core I don't miss one bit. Been there too many times. But after that (BWL+), raiding was actually a challenge. I did enjoy that hard raid bosses, and very expensive crafts, were the only epics. 40-man I don't miss, but I think 25 is too low, 30 would be a decent number.

wow, people complain of 40 man raids. My first Bertox raid in Planes of Power was...84 people.

wow, people complain of 40 man raids. My first Bertox raid in Planes of Power was...84 people.

Hehe, I wouldn't want to be raid healing 84 people. 40, or even 25 or 10 for that matter, is more than enough.

wow, people complain of 40 man raids. My first Bertox raid in Planes of Power was...84 people.

God EverQuest raiding sucked. Glad I never really got into it. Then again I played a wizard, and who the hell wanted one of those? Well other than for portals after it was over.

God EverQuest raiding sucked. Glad I never really got into it. Then again I played a wizard, and who the hell wanted one of those? Well other than for portals after it was over.

Being a wizzy ruled. DPS leaderboards ftw.

Being a wizzy ruled. DPS leaderboards ftw.

I never cared for the massive downtime while leveling. Sure quad kiting was decent, but who the hell wants to solo constantly. Going LFG was more likely to get people wanting you to port them places.

Yeah, I've thought for ages that languages should be among the learnable skills - it'd be more realistic anyway, and would make it possible to say things like, "Dude, seriously, I just got killed 15 times in a row by a jackass level 70. Please can you leave me alone at least until I finish killing this boss?" - which would make PvP suck less, in my opinion.

I don't know, I'd imagine it would result in lots of "lololol alliance fags suck lrn2playwtfomgbbq!1!". Region chat in WAR makes me hate life enough without having to see twice as much of it.

I could see tells or say being allowed but no regional channels for the love of everything good in this world.

I don't know, I'd imagine it would result in lots of "lololol alliance fags suck lrn2playwtfomgbbq!1!". Region chat in WAR makes me hate life enough without having to see twice as much of it.

I could see tells or say being allowed but no regional channels for the love of everything good in this world.

WoW actually used to allow cross-faction communication, but the language that was used to talk to the opposing faction was so depraved that they took the ability away.

God EverQuest raiding sucked. Glad I never really got into it. Then again I played a wizard, and who the hell wanted one of those? Well other than for portals after it was over.

You never got to PoP raids I take it. Reasonably low HP but hit like a freaking bulldozer those mobs did.

PoP raids were weird in that while the tank could suffer pretty extreme damage, there was a tendency for PoP mobs to "spike" damage, essentially pulling off a quad hit for max damage a hit. This would down your tank. And since this would always happen EVENTUALLY, Planes of Power raids became an exercise of "oh god oh god kill it fast!" before the NPC inevitably one shotted your tank.

You never got to PoP raids I take it. Reasonably low HP but hit like a freaking bulldozer those mobs did.

PoP raids were weird in that while the tank could suffer pretty extreme damage, there was a tendency for PoP mobs to "spike" damage, essentially pulling off a quad hit for max damage a hit. This would down your tank. And since this would always happen EVENTUALLY, Planes of Power raids became an exercise of "oh god oh god kill it fast!" before the NPC inevitably one shotted your tank.

No, but I do recall Sony's wonderful method of nerfing shaman's slow. Occasionally it'd backfire and haste the mob.

WoW actually used to allow cross-faction communication, but the language that was used to talk to the opposing faction was so depraved that they took the ability away.

That would of been in the beta I believe. Couldn't in release.

Pictish: That's so weird. I'd swear I've been able to access European realms; that really sucks if you're screwed out of doing the reverse. Silly Blizzard. :(

I agree... and so do the many people who've been sending messages to that effect to the technical support forum.

I'm pretty sure it used to be possible, if you made a small change to a file in one of the WoW folders. Blizz, for whatever reason, have put a stop to that. The demand is clearly there, so presumably they'll get around to it at some point.

Until then, you'll just have to do without me. Sigh. Laugh at some gnomes for me, would you?

I don't know, I'd imagine it would result in lots of "lololol alliance fags suck lrn2playwtfomgbbq!1!". Region chat in WAR makes me hate life enough without having to see twice as much of it.

I could see tells or say being allowed but no regional channels for the love of everything good in this world.

Oh, agreed. General chat is painful enough already.

By the way, anyone seeking to join my little guild should be warned that I have a very low tolerance for stupid. If guild chat starts containing anything like NW's sample above, you WILL get kicked out. :tongue:

Oh, agreed. General chat is painful enough already.

By the way, anyone seeking to join my little guild should be warned that I have a very low tolerance for stupid. If guild chat starts containing anything like NW's sample above, you WILL get kicked out. :tongue:

Your guild? :confused:

Only issue I have with raiding is 25 mans are easier than the 10 mans. Mostly because they just took the 10 man raid and doubled mob health. I'm sure all you clever sorts can see the problem with that. The only challenge in a 25 man raid is convincing folks wearing greens that they really ought no be there.
Good god yes.

My current active guild (Hordeside Kul Tiras) is a 10-man guild. As in, we have 10 or 11 people in the guild, total. We split from a larger guild because we got sick and tired of carrying people through content. We run guild 10-mans and then we do co-ops with other guilds to check out some 25-mans sometimes, and it's absolutely shocking how much easier that 25-mans are. The 10 of us can carry pretty much anybody, specially since we have our own MT and three experienced healers.

So far, the hardest content (for me) has been:

Maly 10
OS 10 with drakes (only done up to two so far)
Saph 10, no FR
and Thaddius 25

The fact that only one of those is 25-man makes me weep. 25-man is supposed to be "heroic" but instead it's just mindless easy zerging.

My Alliance druid hit 80 over the weekend, and I started getting PUG raid invites almost immediately (duh, resto :P). My first reaction to the invites was, "Well, I'm definitely not geared enough for 10-man Naxx, but I can totally do 25."

GG, Bliz. GG.

You could always go for the achievements. The under-21-man achievement should be a decent challenge. Personally, if I ever get the "no one dies on Heigan" achievement, I might just quit WoW, because I would have beaten the game.
/flex

Armory Adorabull, Kul Tiras.

That's right bitchez.

Now, Thaddius is another story...

wow, people complain of 40 man raids. My first Bertox raid in Planes of Power was...84 people.
Personally, I enjoy 10-man raiding a ton more than anything larger, for the most part. I'm so happy that they made it so that 10-man teams can see all the content in this Xpack. I think that's a great way to go.

However, I also miss bigger raids. The first time I stood before Rag, with 39 other comrades standing dwarfed by his massive flaming body, that was deeply epic. I'd like them to toss a few more big raids back in the game, just for funzies.

/flex

Armory Adorabull, Kul Tiras.

That's right bitchez.

Now, Thaddius is another story...

you still need to make a character on Hyjal.

Personally, I enjoy 10-man raiding a ton more than anything larger, for the most part. I'm so happy that they made it so that 10-man teams can see all the content in this Xpack. I think that's a great way to go.

However, I also miss bigger raids. The first time I stood before Rag, with 39 other comrades standing dwarfed by his massive flaming body, that was deeply epic. I'd like them to toss a few more big raids back in the game, just for funzies.

see, planes of power, in original EQ, THERE were some raids. Rallos Zek the Warlord, 72 people.

God what an intense script that is. The longest and shortest 2 hours of your life, in one experience.

Your guild? :confused:

Yes, silly. I made the charter ages ago, and am just waiting for everyone to sign it. I figured I'd have you sign once you'd been to Orgrimmar and/or Undercity so I could bring it to you there rather than having to randomly trek through the Barrens to reach you. There's no great hurry, since I still need signatures from several of the other people, anyway. :)

see, planes of power, in original EQ, THERE were some raids. Rallos Zek the Warlord, 72 people.

God what an intense script that is. The longest and shortest 2 hours of your life, in one experience.
My first MMORPG was City of Heroes, and I remember Hamidon raids more fondly than most. It was absolutely goddam insane to see a hundred superheroes zapping away at a ball of sparklies.

Of course, I never did get past the fact that the adds were called "mitochondria" when they clearly were white blood cells. Goddammit.

My first MMORPG was City of Heroes, and I remember Hamidon raids more fondly than most. It was absolutely goddam insane to see a hundred superheroes zapping away at a ball of sparklies.

Of course, I never did get past the fact that the adds were called "mitochondria" when they clearly were white blood cells. Goddammit.

this must to you what law and order is to me...

you still need to make a character on Hyjal.

I'll keep a lookout for you when I'm running Jowbulla.

you still need to make a character on Hyjal.
Bah, WTB faction transfers. I want to move all my Alliance toons to Hijal Horde.

Bah, WTB faction transfers. I want to move all my Alliance toons to Hijal Horde.

if you make one, PM me your name. I'll be on tonight.

I'll keep a lookout for you when I'm running Jowbulla.

OK, will look for you this evening. Should be on around 7 EST.

Bah, WTB faction transfers. I want to move all my Alliance toons to Hijal Horde.

Heh, I'm not sure that would work too well. "Stop killing me! I'm a HORDE gnome, dammit!" :p

Bah, WTB faction transfers. I want to move all my Alliance toons to Hijal Horde.

Ditto, I want my 70s on Deathwing to become horde. Also decent site for you raiding sorts:


http://be.imba.hu/

Though I note it says Nax 25 is higher than Nax 10. Presumably it will be when Blizzard fixes it.

Bloody hell, I still needed another three more patches. Now my computer is beggnig for a restart, and I still need to add the game card.
*sigh*

No, but I do recall Sony's wonderful method of nerfing shaman's slow. Occasionally it'd backfire and haste the mob.



That would of been in the beta I believe. Couldn't in release.

You could communicate with personal emotes, however, though they fixed that, too.

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Check your tgs

Check your tgs

I'm on, don't see you. Hyjal yes?

I'm on, don't see you. Hyjal yes?

In the Valley of Trials, yeah.

omg how did I miss the geekiest thread on the interwebz?

I feel no better for having found it.

omg how did I miss the geekiest thread on the interwebz?

I feel no better for having found it.

Teehee, all I could think of when I saw the thread title was the joke about (G. Carlin?) about getting an M tatooed on each butt cheek, so when you bend over it says MoM...Or with legs behind ears it says WoW...There I got that off my chest...I'll move on now...:wink:

Soo, I'm looking for someone to quest with either my Lvl 9 Blood Elf Paladin or my Lvl 7 Troll hunter :(