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This is a curious subject for me. I don't use them, because I am never able to detect any of that on me unless I stick something between my armpits. It may be because I don't work out and live in a central-AC'ed home in Canada, so heat isn't too much of a problem.


Is it normal for people to use them?

This is a curious subject for me. I don't use them, because I am never able to detect any of that on me unless I stick something between my armpits. It may be because I don't work out and live in a central-AC'ed home in Canada, so heat isn't too much of a problem.


Is it normal for people to use them?

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I use deodorant every single day. It's something called hygene and not offending others with bodily odours. So yes, it's kind of strange you've never used either of the two.

Uh, yes.

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I use deodorant every single day. It's something called hygene and not offending others with bodily odours. So yes, it's kind of strange you've never used either of the two.

Strange I never use deodorant or anti-perspirent and i've never had a single complaint. Masking an odour doesn't suddenly make you hygienic

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Strange I never use deodorant or anti-perspirent and i've never had a single complaint. Masking an odour doesn't suddenly make you hygienic

Taking baths every day makes you hygenic. Deodorant only prevents others from being offended by your bodily odours.

*jumps on "yes" bandwagon*
It's easier than washing under my arms a few times a day.

Taking baths every day makes you hygenic. Deodorant only prevents others from being offended by your bodily odours.

Yes and if no offensive bodily odour exists because you live in a freezing country (a.k.a. Scotland) or just don't sweat that much where is the problem exactly?

When I was on a dig during the summer, de-oderant got termed "shower in a can". :p

*jumps on "yes" bandwagon*
It's easier than washing under my arms a few times a day.

Indeed, and less expensive than buying new clothes after the BO has soaked into your clothes to the point where laundering with strong detergent and bleach can't get it out.

Yes and if no offensive bodily odour exists because you live in a freezing country (a.k.a. Scotland) or just don't sweat that much where is the problem exactly?

I'm just used to it, cold or hot. That's why it's so strange to me when people tell me they've never used deodorant.

Yes and if no offensive bodily odour exists because you live in a freezing country (a.k.a. Scotland) or just don't sweat that much where is the problem exactly?

I have been in a lot of cold situations sir, but the body does what it does and it sweats no matter the temp. Layering and walking around sure gets me going. Maybe if you sat in AC all day doing relaxing work you'd be fine, but normal people sweat, so normally people wear deodorant.

I have been in a lot of cold situations sir, but the body does what it does and it sweats no matter the temp. Layering and walking around sure gets me going. Maybe if you sat in AC all day doing relaxing work you'd be fine, but normal people sweat, so normally people wear deodorant.

Normal is such a funny word.

Normal is such a funny word.

But a common word. And indeed, normal people do use deaodorants and anti-perspirants. If you're one of the lucky one who do not sweat, congrats. The rest of us, commoners, do sweat.:wink:

The only country that widely refuses to use deoderant is France. As a consequence, their recent history has been a catalogue of humiliating defeats in wars. Their neighbours invade, desperate to force basic hygeine upon them in order to prevent the odour crossing the border. Even worse, the effectiveness of the French army has been dramatically compromised by large numbers of soldiers fainting due to the combined stench of thousands of Frenchmen being concentrated in the relatively small area of the battlefield.

Do you want to turn your country into the new France? No? Then wear deoderant. Thank you.

But a common word. And indeed, normal people do use deaodorants and anti-perspirants. If you're one of the lucky one who do not sweat, congrats. The rest of us, commoners, do sweat.:wink:

It's something called hygene and not offending others with bodily odours. So yes, it's kind of strange you've never used either of the two.

Perhaps i've misinterpreted your comment but I was under the impression that the insinuation was that those who don't use them are unhygienic and stink of BO

Perhaps i've misinterpreted your comment but I was under the impression that the insinuation was that those who don't use them are unhygienic and stink of BO

You totally misread me. I do think wearing deodorant is about hygene and, as I said, not offending others with our corporal smells. But I'm not calling those who do not wear antiperspirant unhygienic. I just consider it rather odd.

Uhh... this is totally surprising for me. If I go up to one of my friends and tell them that I don't wear those products, and ask if I smelled, would it seem awkward? FYI I have very little arm-pit hair (I'm a bit fat), does it have anything to do with it?

I don't think I have any hinderance in my sense of smell, especially since I do work in the fancy sector of the food industry. Are normal people able to smell their own BO when they're at home/not wearing any?

My hair is the only thing people ever smell around me, but, yes, I wear deodorant. (Yes, I use scented shampoo. I like the smell of it. Sue me. ;))

*Joins the "yes, of course" group*

Psh...Fat guy in Hot as Hell weather....Yeah, I use deodorant, lol

This is a curious subject for me. I don't use them, because I am never able to detect any of that on me unless I stick something between my armpits. It may be because I don't work out and live in a central-AC'ed home in Canada, so heat isn't too much of a problem.


Is it normal for people to use them?
that you cant smell it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. that no one tells you doesnt mean that you dont stink. that you dont stink this minute doesnt mean that you didnt stink yesterday.

you should use deodorant every day.

i use a deodorant rather than an antiperspirant. the ingredients of antiperspirants cause my armpits to break out.

I thought fat people only smelled more if they couldn't reach certain crevices, not because they produce more BO just because they're fat.

that you cant smell it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. that no one tells you doesnt mean that you dont stink. that you dont stink this minute doesnt mean that you didnt stink yesterday.

Is it a social convention to let people know? I'm a pretty socially normal person with a multi-racial social circle, and I haven't heard anybody say anything. In fact there was this one time I was on a high school trip where had to use communal washrooms. A classmate was surprised to see me not using any after a shower, where he then told me that "you're lucky".

Was he just being nice/courteous?

I do a lot of walking and lifting and running at work, and I'm not particularly fit, so yes to the first and "I will kiss the person who invented that" for the second.

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Uh, yes.

Yes I do.

I only do it because I have no sense of smell. Otherwise I consider it entirely bothersome. My body odours are mine and I could care less if someone considers me stinky. I do it because I shower at night...

Of course. I don't always bother with it if I know I'm just going to be having a lazy day at home with no one to smell me but me, but if I'm going to be around other people or doing anything more strenuous than sitting at my computer, most definitely. Unless you are different from all other humans, you sweat on occasion. Unless you are different from all other humans, your sweat does not smell particularly yummy. That doesn't mean you necessarily smell so pungently that the people around you notice, but it does mean that when you get warm, you're bound to smell at least somewhat of sweat.

I thought fat people only smelled more if they couldn't reach certain crevices, not because they produce more BO just because they're fat.



Is it a social convention to let people know? I'm a pretty socially normal person with a multi-racial social circle, and I haven't heard anybody say anything. In fact there was this one time I was on a high school trip where had to use communal washrooms. A classmate was surprised to see me not using any after a shower, where he then told me that "you're lucky".

Was he just being nice/courteous?
you dont usually tell someone that they stink. it takes a jerk or an extremely good friend. sometimes your mom will tell you.

you dont usually tell someone that they stink. it takes a jerk or an extremely good friend. sometimes your mom will tell you.

Indeed.

That doesn't mean that the OP does stink, but "no one has actually said, 'Dude, you reek'" is not in itself particularly good evidence that he doesn't.

Indeed.

That doesn't mean that the OP does stink, but "no one has actually said, 'Dude, you reek'" is not in itself particularly good evidence that he doesn't.
exactly.

and indeed he may not stink every day but only now and then. but how would he know?

Not really.

Humans do far too many behaviors based on social conventions.

Humans do far too many behaviors based on social conventions.

Sometimes, it's a good idea to adhere to social conventions. This is definitely one of those times.

I use a deodorant because antiperspirants have aluminum in them and my doctor says it'll kill my kidneys.

I use a deodorant because antiperspirants have aluminum in them and my doctor says it'll kill my kidneys.

I havent researched the subject or anything but....

Im curious, How would the aluminum reach your kidneys without, you know, Ingesting it?

I havent researched the subject or anything but....

Im curious, How would the aluminum reach your kidneys without, you know, Ingesting it?

Um. Blood flows through your skin, as well as every other part of you. The kidneys filter your blood. It's....pretty simple, really. :tongue:

Sometimes, it's a good idea to adhere to social conventions. This is definitely one of those times.

Why?

Not usually. In fact, the anti-persperiant I have I've had more than a year, and it's still pretty full.

I only really need it a few days a year, and that's when I get verwhelmed by my own smell. However, a lot of people here seem to be hung up on social conventions. I mean, we got by the first 10,000 years without it, didn't we?

well, yes, but i kinda feel i don't have to. i shower/bath every day, and on those rare occasions when i run out of deodorant, i can't detect a whiff of stink... and nor can other people. maybe i just don't sweat much. or maybe my sweat smells really nice, like of pineapples or something :)

The only country that widely refuses to use deoderant is France. As a consequence, their recent history has been a catalogue of humiliating defeats in wars. Their neighbours invade, desperate to force basic hygeine upon them in order to prevent the odour crossing the border. Even worse, the effectiveness of the French army has been dramatically compromised by large numbers of soldiers fainting due to the combined stench of thousands of Frenchmen being concentrated in the relatively small area of the battlefield.

Do you want to turn your country into the new France? No? Then wear deoderant. Thank you.

Ironically, hygiene is a French word (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hygiene).

I use them everyday.

Yeah, I use deodorant. I have to use the platinum crap because of issues with excess perspiration, but no big deal.

Nope. I only shower once a week as well.

The cleanliness level of today is ridiculous.
It is actually harming more than helping.
If children´s immune system is not tempered by outside stimulus,
then they will become allergic and catch diseases much easier.

That your body would stink if you do not apply artificial chemicals onto it everyday is just nonsense.
The normal scent of humans actually contains pheromones that could be warped and masked by using artificial scent.

I would prefer a woman that do not use make-up,perfume,deodorant or shower constantly.

I have hyperhidrosis under the arms, and no amount of antiperspirant can stop that. Not even prescription strength. There's only one deodorant I can stand using, and I used it for years...until finally my doctor prescribed me botox to treat the hyperhydrosis. I don't sweat weirdly anymore, and so no, I don't use either antiperspirants or deoderants now.

I don't think using either makes you hygenic, as though it's an automatic thing. Some people have strong body odour, and some don't.

Also, I have a particular preference for the way people naturally smell. I absolutely cannot stand perfumes or colognes...they literally give me a migraine. I don't mind fruity smelling lotions or shampoos all that much...I find the scent is usually less anyway...but I'd still rather people used less artificial scents. Barring a few extreme examples, most people naturally smell just fine. I could pick out most of my friends by smell.

Also, I have a particular preference for the way people naturally smell. I absolutely cannot stand perfumes or colognes...they literally give me a migraine. I don't mind fruity smelling lotions or shampoos all that much...I find the scent is usually less anyway...but I'd still rather people used less artificial scents. Barring a few extreme examples, most people naturally smell just fine. I could pick out most of my friends by smell.

I don't like perfumes or colognes either, unless they're in small enough doses that they're no stronger than fruity lotions and such (which I like a lot, in small quantities - I'm a bit addicted to Bath & Body Works), and I definitely don't mind some degree of natural person-smell, so long as said person-smell is basically clean and not something like "eau de three-month-old unwashed socks."

The worst thing of all, of course, is when people use lots of perfume in lieu of deodorant, so that they end up smelling like BO and sickly-sweet flowers. Blech.

Strange I never use deodorant or anti-perspirent and i've never had a single complaint. Masking an odour doesn't suddenly make you hygienic

People don't tell you when you smell. They just stand further away from you.

I don't mind fruity smelling lotions or shampoos all that much...I find the scent is usually less anyway...but I'd still rather people used less artificial scents.I don't like perfumes or colognes either, unless they're in small enough doses that they're no stronger than fruity lotions and such Strawberry-banana shampoo is overkill then, huh? :p

Strawberry-banana shampoo is overkill then, huh? :p

Nah, I don't mind fruity shampoos, especially since people generally can't smell them at all until their faces are actually in your hair. I use a raspberry-smelling shampoo myself. :)

I use deodorant if I'm going out. Otherwise, only if I start smelling myself without intentionally sniffing my armpits.

Strangely enough, I need it the most within a couple hours of showering. Without any deodorant residue left, the real scent soon comes forth with gusto.

I use a deodorant rather than an antiperspirant. the ingredients of antiperspirants cause my armpits to break out.Same here.

Nah, I don't mind fruity shampoos, especially since people generally can't smell them at all until their faces are actually in your hair. I use a raspberry-smelling shampoo myself. :)People always say the smell mine in class. And they always think I'm just a little "weird" for using fruit-smelling shampoo. :D

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I use deodorant every single day. It's something called hygene and not offending others with bodily odours. So yes, it's kind of strange you've never used either of the two.

Do you have a better way for me to mark my territory?

I just asked several close friends and colleagues. They all seemed to not notice anything from talking distance, but at the same time it would seem gross to ask them to smell my clothes :S

Maybe some people are different, or the said friends and colleagues, whom I have known for over a decade, are destructively self-minding, or have no sense of smell. I'm really confused now.

This is a curious subject for me. I don't use them, because I am never able to detect any of that on me unless I stick something between my armpits. It may be because I don't work out and live in a central-AC'ed home in Canada, so heat isn't too much of a problem.


Is it normal for people to use them?I do what the older folk in my hometown do - i wear a clove of lightly peppered garlic on my belt for about a week.
The topic of deodorant never seems to come up.
Antiperspirant? I've got people - good people - to caress perspiration off of me with nimble tongues.

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I use deodorant every single day. It's something called hygene and not offending others with bodily odours. So yes, it's kind of strange you've never used either of the two.
You've got my tongue ... what else do you need?

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I use deodorant every single day. It's something called hygene and not offending others with bodily odours. So yes, it's kind of strange you've never used either of the two.

I had an impression that you were a woman, they use these products too :eek2: I had no fricken idea.

Strange I never use deodorant or anti-perspirent and i've never had a single complaint. Masking an odour doesn't suddenly make you hygienic

Deodorant does not work by masking the odor. It kills the bacteria in your sweat that causes the odor.
antiperspirant causes the pores in your skin to remain closed and you sweat less form that area.

Hey, SaintB, do you use antiperspirant?
That could be one cause for the sweat being trapped.

Try going without it for awhile and see what happens?

I will have to check up on the products I use in the shower,
to see if they contain something similar, and then replace them.
Will get back to you on how that goes.

[anything to make the red hot itching stop ,)]

Why?

Because smelling bad is rude to everyone around you that is forced to deal with it. Not to mention it reflects badly on you as a person; people who smell have poor hygiene, and people who have poor hygiene don't care about themselves or those around them. If you like being underemployed or friendless, sure you can neglect your hygiene but otherwise it helps to put some effort in to your appearance.

People don't tell you when you smell. They just stand further away from you.

So the argument is "There is no evidence for or against the statement that you smell therefore you must smell"

Because smelling bad is rude to everyone around you that is forced to deal with it. Not to mention it reflects badly on you as a person; people who smell have poor hygiene, and people who have poor hygiene don't care about themselves or those around them. If you like being underemployed or friendless, sure you can neglect your hygiene but otherwise it helps to put some effort in to your appearance.

I'm a medical student, barman, captain of a sports team, and have a large group of friends. It seems that I don't fit the underemployed or friendless image that well. Yet again I have to say that not wearing deodorant, etc does not equal unhygienic or smelly

I'm a medical student, barman, captain of a sports team, and have a large group of friends. It seems that I don't fit the underemployed or friendless image that well. Yet again I have to say that not wearing deodorant, etc does not equal unhygienic or smelly

now what sort of sports team is this ?
because a grad student (let alone a med student) rarely has time to join one of the school's(mean NCAA) teams. Or is this just you and your frat buddies play another frat once a week and being captain means you over see the coin flip ?

now what sort of sports team is this ?
because a grad student (let alone a med student) rarely has time to join one of the school's(mean NCAA) teams. Or is this just you and your frat buddies play another frat once a week and being captain means you over see the coin flip ?

Captain of a university skydiving club and Outside Centre in a 4-way Skydiving Team taking part in the UK Nationals and other regionals events as well as BCPA 3-way Monthly Draws.

No frats here sorry and i'm not a grad student

Captain of a university skydiving club and Outside Centre in a 4-way Skydiving Team taking part in the UK Nationals and other regionals events as well as BCPA 3-way Monthly Draws.

No frats here sorry

that's not a sports team that's a bunch of kids on an adrenaline rush.

that's not a sports team that's a bunch of kids on an adrenaline rush.

If you see the skill levels involved in formation skydiving you might not think so. I'm assuming you've taken part in many FS jumps before?

Not that it matters when my point is that me not wearing deodorant does not equate to me having no social life

I had an impression that you were a woman, they use these products too :eek2: I had no fricken idea.

...I am a little bit flabbergasted. How old are you? Have you, like, interacted with women? I mean, you're actually acting surprised at the notion that women can sweat, so do you also get very amazed when you learn that women, like men, breathe, shit, eat food, and perform other basic bodily functions?

Um. Blood flows through your skin, as well as every other part of you. The kidneys filter your blood. It's....pretty simple, really. :tongue:

Psh, you and your....logic.....

Because smelling bad is rude to everyone around you that is forced to deal with it. Not to mention it reflects badly on you as a person; people who smell have poor hygiene, and people who have poor hygiene don't care about themselves or those around them. If you like being underemployed or friendless, sure you can neglect your hygiene but otherwise it helps to put some effort in to your appearance.

Un huh.

Social conventions are a pretty poor excuse.

Yes. And yes, I do notice when people are not using deodorant, despite a few folks here claiming that they themselves don't notice and therefore obviously don't smell.

You do smell, no matter what the temperature, and no matter when you last had a shower.
But there are very, very few people indeed who would tell you so, because there literally is no polite way of telling someone "you stink to high heaven".
Unless you're allergic to them, please do the world a favour and use deodorants. It only takes a couple of seconds a day.

Because smelling bad is rude to everyone around you that is forced to deal with it. Not to mention it reflects badly on you as a person; people who smell have poor hygiene, and people who have poor hygiene don't care about themselves or those around them. If you like being underemployed or friendless, sure you can neglect your hygiene but otherwise it helps to put some effort in to your appearance.
I see plenty of people who don't wash their hands after using the toilet, possibly one of the most disgusting habits I can think of, most of whom probably use deoderant. Does this make them hygenic? If you are concerned about others' hygene, whether people use deoderant or not is at the bottom of my list.

And while BO isn't nice, I don't think it rude or offensive to have it in most circumstances.

Yes. And yes, I do notice when people are not using deodorant, despite a few folks here claiming that they themselves don't notice and therefore obviously don't smell.

You do smell, no matter what the temperature, and no matter when you last had a shower.
But there are very, very few people indeed who would tell you so, because there literally is no polite way of telling someone "you stink to high heaven".
Unless you're allergic to them, please do the world a favour and use deodorants. It only takes a couple of seconds a day.

I've already replied to a post similar to this

Edit : Do you ask non-smelling people if they do or don't use deodorant? If not then how can you tell who is or isn't using it? All you're saying is that all people who smell of BO don't use deodorant, not that all people who don't smell do use it

You've got my tongue ... what else do you need?

All of you. But you won't give!
*runs away crying*

Yes. And yes, I do notice when people are not using deodorant, despite a few folks here claiming that they themselves don't notice and therefore obviously don't smell.

You do smell, no matter what the temperature, and no matter when you last had a shower.
But there are very, very few people indeed who would tell you so, because there literally is no polite way of telling someone "you stink to high heaven".
Unless you're allergic to them, please do the world a favour and use deodorants. It only takes a couple of seconds a day.

I find it so odd how many of you believe that the default odour for a human is 'stink'. No. People do not always 'smell', not matter what the temperature and no matter when they last had a shower. I find it utterly bizarre that you actually state this as a fact. I'm not sure if you just happen to live around people with extreme issues with BO, or what.

The suggestion that anyone who doesn't wear deodorant or antiperspirant 'stink to high heaven' automatically is so ludicrous, I'm not sure why I'm even responding to this...other than my incredulity with some of the sentiments being expressed.

Everyone sweats...but sweat doesn't smell. Only when the bacteria on your skin interact with that sweat does it start to break down and smell bad. Everyone's body chemistry is different...some people are going to reek very strongly, right away. Others will not. It can depend on what you've been eating...it could be what you're wearing (have you ever had that weird reaction to a certain kind of shoes, where normally your feet don't make you want to kill yourself because of their stench, but suddenly, they do?).

My ex used to exert himself like crazy...sweat like mad...and he didn't stink. Another ex could sit and play cards and start to fill the room with his stench. The former didn't need deodorant...the latter most certainly did.

So as to washing your hands after you go to the wash room. Your hands are exposed to 2000 bacterias and virises, your genitals are exposed to 200. So you should wash you hands before you go, or your genitals after

So as to washing your hands after you go to the wash room. Your hands are exposed to 2000 bacterias and virises, your genitals are exposed to 200. So you should wash you hands before you go, or your genitals after

It's not mainly about "how many" bacteria are present at any given place, but which. Therefore, you want to avoid cross-contamination of any kind - and yes, wash your hands both before and after you use the toilet / bring your hands in the area of your genitals.

I use it maybe one a week, or twice a month. Either that, or when I start smelling.

The only country that widely refuses to use deoderant is France. As a consequence, their recent history has been a catalogue of humiliating defeats in wars. Their neighbours invade, desperate to force basic hygeine upon them in order to prevent the odour crossing the border. Even worse, the effectiveness of the French army has been dramatically compromised by large numbers of soldiers fainting due to the combined stench of thousands of Frenchmen being concentrated in the relatively small area of the battlefield.

Do you want to turn your country into the new France? No? Then wear deoderant. Thank you.

What's wrong with France?

What's wrong with France?

It is a silly place.

What's wrong with France?

I think it might be that bit about "Humiliating Defeats in Wars"...Something about Britain Kicking their Arse, and then Joining us Americans in saving that same Arse from Germans, lol...

I think it might be that bit about "Humiliating Defeats in Wars"...Something about Britain Kicking their Arse, and then Joining us Americans in saving that same Arse from Germans, lol...

Then again, neither USA nor Britain shares borders with Germany, and USA only joined the fight after the Allied forces were already winning, effectively just speeding up the process.

Rather be French than American.

you dont usually tell someone that they stink. it takes a jerk or an extremely good friend. sometimes your mom will tell you.

Moms are great for that, and I'm totally serious.

MY MOM: So, are you planning to take a shower today?
ME: Um.....yes?
MY MOM: That was the right answer.
ME: Are you telling me I smell?
MY MOM: In so many words.

I know people who don't use antiperspirants because of the aluminum, and that's fine, but everyone I spend any time with uses deodorant. Just because you can't smell yourself doesn't mean you don't smell. May not always smell/taste your bad breath, but other people notice, which is why normal people brush their teeth and use mints.

Then again, neither USA nor Britain shares borders with Germany, and USA only joined the fight after the Allied forces were already winning, effectively just speeding up the process.

Um...which war, WWI or WWII...I you could make a case...II most definitely no, Germany was winning until D-Day...

Beside the point anyway, because Before Britain got her men in France, it was a lost cause in WWI...

and France was already conquered in WWII before either of us bothered to consider it, lol...

Your also ignoring the Napoleonic Wars, and the Franco-Prussian War, both of whom, France also most definitely lost...to the British and Germans respectively, lol...

Rather be French than American.

Good luck with that, lol...

I mean, we got by the first 10,000 years without it, didn't we?

Do we really want to make a list of things we "got by the first 10,000 years without"?

I can understand Neesika's argument, and I think different cultural norms have a lot to do with it--but that's an argument that natural human smell isn't inherently bad. The argument that "we didn't have it before so we don't need it now" is fallacious in a million situations.

Nope. I only shower once a week as well.

The cleanliness level of today is ridiculous.
It is actually harming more than helping.
If children´s immune system is not tempered by outside stimulus,
then they will become allergic and catch diseases much easier.

That your body would stink if you do not apply artificial chemicals onto it everyday is just nonsense.
The normal scent of humans actually contains pheromones that could be warped and masked by using artificial scent.

I would prefer a woman that do not use make-up,perfume,deodorant or shower constantly.

I don't think human smell is automatically bad--in fact, it can be quite nice--but there are some people who do, to be blunt, STINK. You may prefer a woman who smells "natural", but that has nothing to do with how YOU smell and how it affects other people. Some people are fine without deodorant. However, having gone to a hippie school where basic hygiene was ignored by a large population, I can tell you that there are "natural" human odors that are offensive, especially when you are trapped in the close confines of a bus or classroom with them.

Um...which war, WWI or WWII...I you could make a case...II most definitely no, Germany was winning until D-Day...

The only reason D-Day was possible is because of Russia. Russia won us the war, you didn't.

The Americans' whinging about France is getting old. Once you sort out your own foreign affairs, instead of rather just go on a bombing spree on the ones you don't like, you can have a say.

The only reason D-Day was possible is because of Russia. Russia won us the war, you didn't.

The Americans' whinging about France is getting old. Once you sort out your own foreign affairs, instead of rather just go on a bombing spree on the ones you don't like, you can have a say.

I dont recall whether anyone asked you whether you thought we had a say or not...

The rest is beside the point, Regardless of who you think saved France's ass...

The point was they needed Saving...Hence the whole "Humiliating Defeats in Wars"...

Its an Undeniable fact, that for most of the 19th and 20th Centuries, France wasnt winning wars...

I don't think human smell is automatically bad--in fact, it can be quite nice--but there are some people who do, to be blunt, STINK. You may prefer a woman who smells "natural", but that has nothing to do with how YOU smell and how it affects other people. Some people are fine without deodorant. However, having gone to a hippie school where basic hygiene was ignored by a large population, I can tell you that there are "natural" human odors that are offensive, especially when you are trapped in the close confines of a bus or classroom with them.

I agree that when one stinks or is very dirty, one should shower.
That does not however, mandate the excessive level of cleanliness seen today.
The number of chemicals in make-up, perfume and other "hygiene" products are staggering.
If they are not outright harmful, they are often under-researched and quite simply not necessary.

Here is an example where "the golden middle road" is very sensible.

Ryadn: but everyone I spend any time with uses deodorant

So you talk about deodorants with your friends, or the only people you hang out with are your changing room buddies.


Despite many IRL people saying the contrary, I'm going to stick to normal conventions, because humans are naturally disgusting. Is it applied to the pits only, or do you use them on your neck/chest/any place with extra body hair?

Regarding my age comment, I'm in college now living off campus. I'm pretty sure I'm not a "late bloomer" puberty wise like one might presume, because I can count at least 20 strands of armpit hair. I assumed the "lady stick" commercials were exclusively for people who go sleeveless (a la commerical models), or play sports.

Btw NSG, well done for inserting a WWII debate :D

I'm pretty sure I'm not a "late bloomer" puberty wise like one might presume, because I can count at least 20 strands of armpit hair.
Youve only got Twenty, psh, what a wimp :p

Btw NSG, well done for inserting a WWII debate :D

Eventually I will attain my goal of Having France conquer the world to redeem herself, lol...

The last war Norway won was... oh damn... does it work if they've never actually won a war?

The last war Norway won was... oh damn... does it work if they've never actually won a war?

I was tempted to say they beat Russia.....but now that I think about it that was Finland, lol...

I think, judging by the use of "we" and "us"...that he's French, lol...

The last war Norway won was... oh damn... does it work if they've never actually won a war?

You are aware that you didn't actually make any points here, even if you did put 'won' in Italic? Which war were you thinking about, where we lost?

I am sure your knowledge of Norwegian history is about as grand as your ability to find it on a map, rather slim.

I was tempted to say they beat Russia.....but now that I think about it that was Finland, lol...

That was indeed Finland, although many Norwegians volunteered and served alongside the Finnish. Exactly what was so funny?

I think, judging by the use of "we" and "us"...that he's French, lol...

I've been to France. If that makes me French, then sure, otherwise no. Besides, hardly an insult.

a freezing country (a.k.a. Scotland)

*giggles*

Also, I have a particular preference for the way people naturally smell. I absolutely cannot stand perfumes or colognes...they literally give me a migraine. I don't mind fruity smelling lotions or shampoos all that much...I find the scent is usually less anyway...but I'd still rather people used less artificial scents. Barring a few extreme examples, most people naturally smell just fine. I could pick out most of my friends by smell.

I agree, for the most part. I also don't like women wearing makeup.

Rather be French than American.

I plan on being a citizen of both.

Yeah, but I don't think my armpits ever smell if I don't.

Yes, I use deodorant. I'm uncertain if my BO smells bad to other people, but I prefer the smell of deodorant to the smell of me.

So as to washing your hands after you go to the wash room. Your hands are exposed to 2000 bacterias and virises, your genitals are exposed to 200. So you should wash you hands before you go, or your genitals afterAnd how much bacteria is on the toilet handle?

It's not mainly about "how many" bacteria are present at any given place, but which. Therefore, you want to avoid cross-contamination of any kind - and yes, wash your hands both before and after you use the toilet / bring your hands in the area of your genitals.

True. As a general rule you should wash your hands throughout the day anyway and being in the bathroom is a convenient time to do so, you know since it has the whole sink/soap/towel set-up going. I wash my hands every time I go to the bathroom, whether I'm in there to use the toilet or not.

Which war were you thinking about, where we lost?
The Norwegian-Swedish War of 1814 is the one I was thinking of, but I'm sure there are others.

I am sure your knowledge of Norwegian history is about as grand as your ability to find it on a map, rather slim.
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9653/asia3qq5.jpg
Norway. You think you're so smart just because you can find South Africa and the Iraq. Well not all of us have atlases.

Yes I use antiperspirant. In Australia it's really not an option.

And how much bacteria is on the toilet handle?
I've never gone close enough to count 'em; I just generally squash 'em with the paper towel I conveniently grabbed from the entrance area thingy.

... I've written a complaint letter to my university cleanliness department thingy because they replaced nearly all paper towel dispenser with those cloth roll thingies, which one can neither use as a protective glove for neither doorknobs nor seats, nor can one use them as substitute TP. Dreadful change.
True. As a general rule you should wash your hands throughout the day anyway and being in the bathroom is a convenient time to do so, you know since it has the whole sink/soap/towel set-up going. I wash my hands every time I go to the bathroom, whether I'm in there to use the toilet or not.
Oh, I thought that was, you know, a given. But then there are a gazillion people I know who don't wash their hands in between getting their hands licked by their pet and eating.. and don't even get me started on those who sit on the seat of some public transportation vehicle and then choose to sit their dirty ass down on my bed.

I might or might not overreact to some hygiene issues.

I wear the least scented deoderant I can get my hands on because I hate to smell strongly, even if it costs more, I also carry a bottle of hand sanitzer with me wherever I go, partially because I have an OCD about clean feeling hands. Hygiene is one of the few things I am willing to spend more money on than less.

I was tempted to say they beat Russia.....but now that I think about it that was Finland, lol...

I think, judging by the use of "we" and "us"...that he's French, lol...

Yeah, we won the Soviets. Cause, we are awesome.

I've already replied to a post similar to this

Edit : Do you ask non-smelling people if they do or don't use deodorant? If not then how can you tell who is or isn't using it? All you're saying is that all people who smell of BO don't use deodorant, not that all people who don't smell do use it

Because there is a very distinct difference in smell between somebody who does and someone who doesn't use deodorant. A person using deodorant but just having had a workout and sweating because of it smells very different from a person who simply doesn't use doedorant.

I wear the least scented deodorant I can get my hands on because I hate to smell strongly, even if it costs more, I also carry a bottle of hand sanitizer with me wherever I go, partially because I have an OCD about clean feeling hands. Hygiene is one of the few things I am willing to spend more money on than less.

We've already established that I wish to be seduced by you, right? Good. Just makin' sure.
(Also, I carry a bottle of hand sanitizer, a few tissues of surface sanitizer and sanitizing skin towels with me at all times)

We've already established that I wish to be seduced by you, right? Good. Just makin' sure.

Yes we have already established this, and vise versa. Regardless, you just improved my whole day by a factor of 100%!


(Also, I carry a bottle of hand sanitizer, a few tissues of surface sanitizer and sanitizing skin towels with me at all times)

125%! I just keep myself happy with the hand sanitizer and avoid public restrooms like the plague unless I have no choice. They give me the heeby jeebies... my mom's bathroom gives me the heeby jeebies.

Yes we have already established this, and vise versa. Regardless, you just improved my whole day by a factor of 100%!
Good. I'm really glad. Nothing brings more of a smile to me than having made someone else smile.

125%! I just keep myself happy with the hand sanitizer and avoid public restrooms like the plague unless I have no choice. They give me the heeby jeebies... my mom's bathroom gives me the heeby jeebies.
Due to being at uni most of the day, and drinking lots, I cannot possibly avoid public bathrooms.
... last time I went to the bathroom at my parents', the waste basket sat in the sink, and when I pushed down the thingy where the liquid soap was to come out of, I received a splatter of rusty, brown-greyish.. something. *shudders, still*

Due to being at uni most of the day, and drinking lots, I cannot possibly avoid public bathrooms.
... last time I went to the bathroom at my parents', the waste basket sat in the sink, and when I pushed down the thingy where the liquid soap was to come out of, I received a splatter of rusty, brown-greyish.. something. *shudders, still*

I shuddered just reading it.

Because there is a very distinct difference in smell between somebody who does and someone who doesn't use deodorant. A person using deodorant but just having had a workout and sweating because of it smells very different from a person who simply doesn't use doedorant.

You've not understood the point I was attempting to make.

You can't tell, without doing some sort of survey I suppose, whether the people who don't smell are using deodorant or not. Therefore you can't say that all people who don't use deodorant smell. All you can say is that of the people that smell some don't use deodorant.

Taking baths every day makes you hygenic. Deodorant only prevents others from being offended by your bodily odours.Some people tend to use a bit too much though, which is mightily more offensive to me.
But worse is when I'm sitting in the train and someone nearby decides that public transportation is the perfect place to odourize their armpits, stinking up the whole train. Meh, people; you can't live with them, and shooting them gets you put in jail :(

Some people tend to use a bit too much though, which is mightily more offensive to me.
But worse is when I'm sitting in the train and someone nearby decides that public transportation is the perfect place to odourize their armpits, stinking up the whole train. Meh, people; you can't live with them, and shooting them gets you put in jail :(

You're supposed to put deodorant and perfume in your house. I do dislike that too.

You're supposed to put deodorant and perfume in your house. I do dislike that too.
You're supposed to do ALL your grooming in your house or the restroom. Nothing more unattractive than watching a girl/woman putting her makeup on in public, or people combing their hair/brushing their hair at a common area.

Since it seems it hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126935.000-men-smell-of-cheese-and-women-of-onions.html

Men smell of cheese and women of onions

LITTLE girls may be made of sugar and spice and all things nice, but their armpits smell of onions. And while free of slug or snail odours, men's armpits pack a powerful cheesy whiff.

That's the conclusion of research in Switzerland that involved taking armpit sweat samples from 24 men and 25 women after they had spent time in a sauna or ridden an exercise bike for 15 minutes.

(...)

Since it seems it hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126935.000-men-smell-of-cheese-and-women-of-onions.html

Meh, smells like Chicken anyway, lol...

Since it seems it hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126935.000-men-smell-of-cheese-and-women-of-onions.html

Who came up with the idea for that research?

Who came up with the idea for that research?

Maybe they intend to add a Deodorant to the Knife?:p

Since it seems it hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126935.000-men-smell-of-cheese-and-women-of-onions.htmlAh, now I know why I love cheese and hate onions!

You're supposed to do ALL your grooming in your house or the restroom. Nothing more unattractive than watching a girl/woman putting her makeup on in public, or people combing their hair/brushing their hair at a common area.

Meep. I definitely don't do basic-hygiene things in public, but I do occasionally brush my hair there, because my hair likes to tie itself into ridiculous knots if I don't pay attention to it regularly. Do I get any sort of extra pass on this by virtue of it being rather a lot longer than most people's? :p

Meep. I definitely don't do basic-hygiene things in public, but I do occasionally brush my hair there, because my hair likes to tie itself into ridiculous knots if I don't pay attention to it regularly. Do I get any sort of extra pass on this by virtue of it being rather a lot longer than most people's? :p
Oooh, Poli, I wanna give you a pass because I like you but long hairs finding themselves onto desks/tables not so good. :(

Oooh, Poli, I wanna give you a pass because I like you but long hairs finding themselves onto desks/tables not so good. :(

Awww.

On the bright side, said long hairs are always quite clean, and I do keep them away from eating surfaces and the like. Just not necessarily away from chairs/floors. (And I mostly only brush in public on windy days when waiting until I'm home would mean I'd look like a human tumbleweed by the time I got there.) :p

You're supposed to do ALL your grooming in your house or the restroom. Nothing more unattractive than watching a girl/woman putting her makeup on in public, or people combing their hair/brushing their hair at a common area.

Exactly, this is why I am surprised by the offense I have caused by being ignorant of the fact that all women use deodorant. Unless it's sort of a convention that women use these products (presumably in the private area of their house) in front of their male friends, it's hard to know about it without directly asking them.

You've not understood the point I was attempting to make.

You can't tell, without doing some sort of survey I suppose, whether the people who don't smell are using deodorant or not. Therefore you can't say that all people who don't use deodorant smell. All you can say is that of the people that smell some don't use deodorant.


You mean you usually don't smell the deodorant people are using? How odd...

To me, people either smell of deodorant (and their soap, shampoo, and usually their washing powder and conditioner), or of themselves. And I honestly prefer them smelling of deodorant.

Exactly, this is why I am surprised by the offense I have caused by being ignorant of the fact that all women use deodorant. Unless it's sort of a convention that women use these products (presumably in the private area of their house) in front of their male friends, it's hard to know about it without directly asking them.

Heh, I at least am not offended, but your apparent shock at learning that women are not, as a whole, androids who never sweat was a little startling. I would have had much the same response if you'd said, "Wait, women use toothpaste too? I had no idea! I thought their mouths just naturally smelled minty fresh!" ;)

Women smell too. Hang around some feminist lesbians for a little while.

I was operating on the premise that:

- not everybody smells
- sweaty doesn't automatically = smelly
- women take showers more frequently than men (2+/day)
- the "lady stick" commercials only featured women working out or wearing sleeveless shirts
- I've never smelled offensive BO from women at the my martial arts studio, whereas some men actually do smell like BO

Taking in account these biases, I don't see why the revelation would be so shocking. I also never participated in sports since middle school, live off campus with my parents, and rarely visit public areas with a lot of people. If the train/bus is full, I always wait for the next one. If the library is packed, I take one train to my dad's downtown office to do work. Maybe that is why I've never ever encountered OMG BO reeking women.

Everyone smells. I mean, I don't know this scientifically, but I don't see how there could exist someone who didn't. Humans sweat naturally to cool off, and sweat (due to certain factors I am unaware of, probably bacterial in nature) causes BO. I don't know which women you hang out with, but most take a shower a day, at most. Any more than that messes up their hair. And the commercials you see are for invisible deodorant, which doesn't show up on black dresses or leave stains or white marks in the pits. There are women's deodorants that are the same as the dude's. As for them working out, that's just advertising.

Huh, I thought being in college would dispel any gender myths. I guess I should check into the dorms next semester :)

Maybe that is why I've never ever encountered OMG BO reeking women.Perhaps you did but assumed it was a nearby man?

Huh, I thought being in college would dispel any gender myths. I guess I should check into the dorms next semester :)

Dude dorms are the shit. I definitely recommend you stop your silly commuting and rock out in your 16x11 whitewashed cube.

Perhaps you did but assumed it was a nearby man?

That never occurred to me, that might just be it.

Dude dorms are the shit. I definitely recommend you stop your silly commuting and rock out in your 16x11 whitewashed cube.

Okay I should continue living a sheltered life and fantasize about the woman's mystique until my parents die and I have to support myself.

Okay I should continue living a sheltered life and fantasize about the woman's mystique until my parents die and I have to support myself.
I'm drinking a Red Stripe right now with my music turned up way loud. Later, I'm gunna bang my girlfriend and watch some Super Bowl action. Yelling included!

How often you do that in your parents' house?

And while we're on the topic, can someone who has had Red Stripe before please help me. I am drinking it, and I just cannot figure out the flavor! It feels smokey to me, but its a pale lager!

I'm drinking a Red Stripe right now with my music turned up way loud. Later, I'm gunna bang my girlfriend and watch some Super Bowl action. Yelling included!

Man, you must be paying some good money for rent if your parents can put up with that.

I was operating on the premise that:

- not everybody smells
- sweaty doesn't automatically = smelly
- women take showers more frequently than men (2+/day)
- the "lady stick" commercials only featured women working out or wearing sleeveless shirts
- I've never smelled offensive BO from women at the my martial arts studio, whereas some men actually do smell like BO

- some people have a stronger and more off-putting natural smell than others
- sweaty does not automatically = smelly, but a lot of times it does
- i don't know anyone who takes that many showers a day
- i wear secret platinum every day, and i rarely work out
- i've smelled women who not only reeked of BO, but had other things that reeked, to the point where i thought i was going to vomit. we can definitely be smelly and unhygienic too.

Women smell too. Hang around some feminist lesbians for a little while.

I work with them......You are correct, lol...

Women smell too. Hang around some feminist lesbians for a little while.

Yes, all women who believe in gender equality and have a sexual preference for other women are dirty, smelly people who don't shower or shave their legs or wear makeup, the bitches. :rolleyes:

Man, you must be paying some good money for rent if your parents can put up with that.

The rent is called room and board, and what my parents don't know won't hurt them.

i've smelled women who not only reeked of BO, but had other things that reeked, to the point where i thought i was going to vomit. we can definitely be smelly and unhygienic too.

Hey check this out man tell it
It was this blind man right, it was this blind man right
He was feelin' his way down the street with a stick right, hey
He walked past this fish market, you know what I'm sayin'
He stopped he took a deep breath he said
Snfffffff, woooo good morning ladies, ha

Yes, all women who believe in gender equality and have a sexual preference for other women are dirty, smelly people who don't shower or shave their legs or wear makeup, the bitches. :rolleyes:

lol, I certainly wouldnt say all of them...But, I do work with a bunch who have their own Football team, and put it to you this way...they smell like i did when i played in High School.....not pleasant...

Yes, all women who believe in gender equality and have a sexual preference for other women are dirty, smelly people who don't shower or shave their legs or wear makeup, the bitches. :rolleyes:

Well at least someone understands!

Exactly, this is why I am surprised by the offense I have caused by being ignorant of the fact that all women use deodorant. Unless it's sort of a convention that women use these products (presumably in the private area of their house) in front of their male friends, it's hard to know about it without directly asking them.
I would just have assumed that since females are human as well (we are) we generally obey the same biological/physical laws that the guys do.

I would just have assumed that since females are human as well (we are) we generally obey the same biological/physical laws that the guys do.

Come on, we know Women are better than that :p...


Just trying to create this illusion to throws off guard huh, Well Im not fallin for it, lol...

I would just have assumed that since females are human as well (we are) we generally obey the same biological/physical laws that the guys do.

Well to my defense, my upbringing was quite a conservative one, where women generally kept to themselves (don't ask questions about tampon dispensers and maxi-pads on TV). Boy was I surprised when I went to my first sexuality class in my junior year.

Well to my defense, my upbringing was quite a conservative one, where women generally kept to themselves (don't ask questions about tampon dispensers and maxi-pads on TV). Boy was I surprised when I went to my first sexuality class in my junior year.

I recommend you find sex. You'll never go back.

first sexuality class in my junior year.

....And I thought we were Conservative, lol...

....And I thought we were Conservative, lol...

Even those classes are not mandatory. Some muslim/hard core Christian parents have withdrawn their kids from attending them. I went because there were many Frasier jokes I didn't understand. Heck, I even learned self stimulation in the sexuality class (in Alberta, it's part of the CALM curriculum).

I recommend you find sex. You'll never go back.

:| I'm a physics student.

Don't ask about them?

Hell, my fiance and I discuss them at the grocery store, as in, "Ok, I'll go get the veggies, get me tampons/napkins!"

Even those classes are not mandatory. Some muslim/hard core Christian parents have withdrawn their kids from attending them. I went because there were many Frasier jokes I didn't understand. Heck, I even learned self stimulation in the sexuality class (in Alberta, it's part of the CALM curriculum).


I grew up in rural America, the heart of the closed minded conservative people kind of place, I had my first sex ed class in 4th grade! :eek:


:| I'm a physics student.

Its a little known fact that our beloved clown LG has a degree in physics, not all is lost.

You're supposed to do ALL your grooming in your house or the restroom. Nothing more unattractive than watching a girl/woman putting her makeup on in public, or people combing their hair/brushing their hair at a common area.

Exactly. I really dislike women who put their makeup on the metro. It looks unsightly.

Don't ask about them?

Hell, my fiance and I discuss them at the grocery store, as in, "Ok, I'll go get the veggies, get me tampons/napkins!"

Well I'm sure it's a different situation between a married/close couple, I was referring to my parent-child relation.


I grew up in rural America, the heart of the closed minded conservative people kind of place, I had my first sex ed class in 4th grade! :eek:

That is incredible. I thought intercourse was intimate kissing and man-chest stroking (thanks mom for watching Young and the restless) until middle school.



Its a little known fact that our beloved clown LG has a degree in physics, not all is lost.

As an undergrad, I don't think the statistics are very good, nevermind me asking the internet for RL advice.

Well I'm sure it's a different situation between a married/close couple, I was referring to my parent-child relation.




That is incredible. I thought intercourse was intimate kissing and man-chest stroking (thanks mom for watching Young and the restless) until middle school.




As an undergrad, I don't think the statistics are very good, nevermind me asking the internet for RL advice.
this is why you need to live in the dorm.

and dont put it off on the (extremely stupid) theory that there will be plenty of time for sex later. all the hot physics chicks will be taken when you get to your first job.

Does it have to be physics women, or are inter-faculty relations unorthodox :fluffle: ?

While I'm not a militant evangelicising celibate, I don't see anything wrong with being abstinent... or being unable to get any. I assumed that only the hot, hunk/sweetheart, frat/sorority, liberal-oriented couples are getting it, while others are crawled away in their dorms and libraries practicing integration techniques -- another apparent "myth" I grew up with.

Where I went to school (98% middle-class white students), I rarely saw couples showing much affection in public, let alone any sexual things being discussed. Maybe it's a Canadian suburb thing, either way I don't mind :)


Dorms: If I move into one, purely for getting in touch with the "normal" society, would I have to move into one with roommates? Will I magically expand my social circle even if I don't drink or want to attend parties? I'm a little hesitant doing everything improntu, because I had basically no social life during my senior aside from the academic aspect.

Does it have to be physics women, or are inter-faculty relations unorthodox :fluffle: ?

While I'm not a militant evangelicising celibate, I don't see anything wrong with being abstinent... or being unable to get any. I assumed that only the hot, hunk/sweetheart, frat/sorority, liberal-oriented couples are getting it, while others are crawled away in their dorms and libraries practicing integration techniques -- another apparent "myth" I grew up with.

Where I went to school (98% middle-class white students), I rarely saw couples showing much affection in public, let alone any sexual things being discussed. Maybe it's a Canadian suburb thing, either way I don't mind :)


Dorms: If I move into one, purely for getting in touch with the "normal" society, would I have to move into one with roommates? Will I magically expand my social circle even if I don't drink or want to attend parties? I'm a little hesitant doing everything improntu, because I had basically no social life during my senior aside from the academic aspect.
while in college you can romance any sort of woman. i recommend nursing or education students in case you end up marrying one. (not a comment on character, just a practical recommendation regarding dealing with a 2 career marriage).

i dont think you should start out with meaningless sex. there are plenty of women looking for a serious dating relationship that starts out slow (but you may expect to have to "put out" before too too long). in any case, practice makes perfect, eh?

college is different than highschool. you can drink or not drink. you can drink a little or a lot. you will find like minded people no matter how you run your social life.

While I'm not a militant evangelicising celibate, I don't see anything wrong with being abstinent... or being unable to get any.

That's because you've never had good sex. Once you do, you may start to re-prioritize.

I assumed that only the hot, hunk/sweetheart, frat/sorority, liberal-oriented couples are getting it, while others are crawled away in their dorms and libraries practicing integration techniques -- another apparent "myth" I grew up with.

I dare say that we are a fairly geeky bunch on NSG, and many of us are getting laid regularly. Sex is not just for pretty people or popular people. It's for people with pulses.

Where I went to school (98% middle-class white students), I rarely saw couples showing much affection in public, let alone any sexual things being discussed. Maybe it's a Canadian suburb thing, either way I don't mind :)

What province are you from?

I grew up in rural America, the heart of the closed minded conservative people kind of place, I had my first sex ed class in 4th grade! :eek:

Our first sex ed class was in second grade. But it was just the mechanics of how babies grew, pretty much, and I'd already known all that stuff since I was like 4.

I grew up in rural America, the heart of the closed minded conservative people kind of place, I had my first sex ed class in 4th grade! :eek:


Even in Biblebelt MS, we had it in 5th! lol

All of you. But you won't give!
*runs away crying*It's more of a profit-sharing kinda thing. You know, like a condo.

I dare say that we are a fairly geeky bunch on NSG, and many of us are getting laid regularly. Sex is not just for pretty people or popular people. It's for people with pulses.

Well that's something I didn't know.


What province are you from?

Alberta, grew up in Edmonton. Lots of homeless people but I've never seen a single prostitute in downtown.


and I'd already known all that stuff since I was like 4.

What. When I was 4, the only difference I probably knew between a man and a woman was the lack of breasts.


Even in Biblebelt MS, we had it in 5th! lol

I had a puberty class in middle school, but even then we didn't even talk about the mechanics of intercourse. It would've been nice if they included personal hygeine in the curriculum (the widespread and apparently mandatory use of deodorants).

It's more of a profit-sharing kinda thing. You know, like a condo.

I thought it was more like a time-share.:tongue:

Yep.

Side note: WTF is up with all "womenz" deodorants being so full of goddam odors and so light on actual antiperspirant?! I want to DE-ODOR my pits, not make them smell like sweaty rose bushes.

Yep.

Side note: WTF is up with all "womenz" deodorants being so full of goddam odors and so light on actual antiperspirant?! I want to DE-ODOR my pits, not make them smell like sweaty rose bushes.

I tend to go for Nivea for that reason.

Is it normal for people to use them?
Yes, because unlike the Russian peasantry of the early 1900s, I am not revolting.

Yes, because unlike the Russian peasantry of the early 1900s, I am not revolting.

*resists 'but you ARE northern' style comment*

*resists 'but you ARE northern' style comment*
I'm barely northern at all :tongue:

Well that's something I didn't know.

Cheering, isn't it?

Alberta, grew up in Edmonton. Lots of homeless people but I've never seen a single prostitute in downtown.

That's what I figured. Well, Alberta or Manitoba. :P

What. When I was 4, the only difference I probably knew between a man and a woman was the lack of breasts.

*shrugs* I asked questions, I got answers. My family didn't have any hang-ups about nudity, so I always knew that men and women looked different. I also remember I had a little book about pregnancy that had real-size illustrations of fetuses at various periods of gestation inside the womb, so I was never fooled by the anti-choice's arguments that first-term fetuses looked like babies. I was like, "They look like tadpoles and they're not much bigger!" I had some interesting playground fights.

Yep.

Side note: WTF is up with all "womenz" deodorants being so full of goddam odors and so light on actual antiperspirant?! I want to DE-ODOR my pits, not make them smell like sweaty rose bushes.

Good question.

Why do most men's deodorants have to be strong enough to be smelled across the damn street on a slightly breezy day and have so much anti persperant you can't sweat anywhere on you body?

I thought it was more like a time-share.:tongue:Well, it will take some time, and we're likely to do some sharing. Perhaps even exchanging. :)

Well, it will take some time, and we're likely to do some sharing. Perhaps even exchanging. :)

Sharing, of course. Exchanging... of what exactly?:wink:

Well that's something I didn't know.

Wow.


Alberta, grew up in Edmonton.

Oh THAT explains it. Neesika is in Edmonton. She absorbs the sexual energy for the entire town, nobody else can have any.

Yep.

Side note: WTF is up with all "womenz" deodorants being so full of goddam odors and so light on actual antiperspirant?! I want to DE-ODOR my pits, not make them smell like sweaty rose bushes.

"Menz" deodorants are like that too, except ours have made up smells that you couldn't describe as smelling like anything other than deodorant, with absurd names like "Pulse", "Vice", "Gravity", or "Tempest".

"Menz" deodorants are like that too, except ours have made up smells that you couldn't describe as smelling like anything other than deodorant, with absurd names like "Pulse", "Vice", "Gravity", or "Tempest".

what's it smell like?

.....gravity.

what's it smell like?

.....gravity.

So, you mean, you give off a pungent smell of someone thrown from a tall building and left to rot on the pavement?

So, you mean, you give off a pungent smell of someone thrown from a tall building and left to rot on the pavement?

Or the gentle rose petal, finding its inevitable way to the ground? ,)

No, I don't use deodorant. I simply shower every time I start to smell. I prefer simply being clean than putting on weird chemical combinations that mask or inhibit my natural and beneficial bodily functions.

Yes, I do tend to take a lot of showers in the summer. Yes, the pheromones do help in picking up.

Wait.

What.

:confused:

No, I don't use deodorant. I simply shower every time I start to smell. I prefer simply being clean than putting on weird chemical combinations that mask or inhibit my natural and beneficial bodily functions.

Yes, I do tend to take a lot of showers in the summer. Yes, the pheromones do help in picking up.


You probably smell anyway. After being out and about for a good three hours or so, you'll start to stink. Usually you can't smell your own stench.

So, you mean, you give off a pungent smell of someone thrown from a tall building and left to rot on the pavement?

exactly.

Since it seems it hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126935.000-men-smell-of-cheese-and-women-of-onions.html

I bet it's only those men that consume dairy products. Those who are vegans or lactose intolerant probably smell different.

You probably smell anyway. After being out and about for a good three hours or so, you'll start to stink. Usually you can't smell your own stench.

No. I smell my own stink when I have BO. Are you unable to smell your own stink? Is this normal?

I bet it's only those men that consume dairy products. Those who are vegans or lactose intolerant probably smell different.



No. I smell my own stink when I have BO. Are you unable to smell your own stink? Is this normal?

Since it's your stink, and you're with it all the time, you get more accustommed and desensitized to it, which means you're less aware of it. That usually means that by the time you can start smelling your own BO, other people have been smelling it for a good couple of hours.

Good question.

Why do most men's deodorants have to be strong enough to be smelled across the damn street on a slightly breezy day and have so much anti persperant you can't sweat anywhere on you body?
For the most part I've found menz deodorants less annoying, with one exception:

Old Spice melts eyeballs.

Seriously. It's like somebody took 6000 pounds of baby powder, super-compressed it into a bat, and then started hitting you in the face with said bat. Holy shit lads, nobody stinks enough to need that.

Since it's your stink, and you're with it all the time, you get more accustommed and desensitized to it, which means you're less aware of it. That usually means that by the time you can start smelling your own BO, other people have been smelling it for a good couple of hours.

How can you get used to something that you never smell?
(given that "normally" one always shower or use deodorant)

Wow.




Oh THAT explains it. Neesika is in Edmonton. She absorbs the sexual energy for the entire town, nobody else can have any.

Hahahaha.

I think GoG might disagree when he's visiting town, no? ;)

Since it's your stink, and you're with it all the time, you get more accustommed and desensitized to it, which means you're less aware of it. That usually means that by the time you can start smelling your own BO, other people have been smelling it for a good couple of hours.

No. I can't smell my natural smell normally (though I can when I radically change my diet), but I can easily smell my own BO stink.

It just seems odd that people can't tell when their odor changes.

Do I use deodorants? Rarely, mostly when I go out to party, etc.. or don't have the time to take a shower when dirty for various reasons like physical exercise.


Do I use antiperspirants? Hell no, why should I? I sweat a lot but sweat is odorless until it has had the time to collect dirt and bacteria that causes it to smell. Besides, sweating serves a critical body function so I'm leery of artificial intervention.



Furthermore, personally I think that smelling of chemicals irritates people more - or at the minimum causes a bigger reaction - than having the rather neutral body odor (edit: well, meaning 5-15 times a week shower smell, not the truly natural body odor that's a byproduct of a week without a shower).

sweat is odorless until it has had the time to collect dirt and bacteria that causes it to smell.
No, it's really not.

No. I can't smell my natural smell normally (though I can when I radically change my diet), but I can easily smell my own BO stink.

It just seems odd that people can't tell when their odor changes.

Most people don't pay attention to those types of things. I had a friend who was genuinely clueless about where she was in her menstrual cycle.....I have no clue how that happens.

No, it's really not.
It is.

But you should note that the wet cloth can cause a smell - eg. cotton clothes can smell quite hideous.


It might also be a form of synesthesia ie. because sweat is "Eww!" it also has to smell bad. :rolleyes:

It is.

But you should note that the wet cloth can cause a smell - eg. cotton clothes can smell quite hideous.


It might also be a form of synesthesia ie. because sweat is "Eww!" it also has to smell bad. :rolleyes:

Sweat is similar to urine in it's composition. Being properly hydrated and during exercise, sweat shouldn't smell horribly if your body is free of toxins.

The sweat itself doesn't smell--at least not at first. But sweat activates certain bacteria that normally live on the skin, and it's the bacteria that produce the unpleasant odour.

Being properly hydrated and during exercise, sweat shouldn't smell horribly if your body is free of toxins.

The sweat itself doesn't smell--at least not at first.
Aye...

I've also noticed that if the sweat dries off fast after exercise - eg. towel + hot dry day - most "odour harms" don't have time to materialize...assuming you have a new or odourless when-wet-or-mostly-dried shirt. Though, in that case a good spraying of deodorant goes a long way in covering the left overs if you don't have the time or place to hit a shower. ;)

But sweat activates certain bacteria that normally live on the skin, and it's the bacteria that produce the unpleasant odour.
Unpleasant odour naturally being wholly a cultural concept... :gas:

It is.

No, seriously, it's not.

In theory, PURE sweat is ALMOST odorless, with emphasis on the almost.

However, there's pretty much no human on the planet who is going to perspire pure sweat.


It might also be a form of synesthesia ie. because sweat is "Eww!" it also has to smell bad. :rolleyes:

As somebody who has actual synesthesia, I find this comment bizarre. I think you mean "association" or "learned response" or something. Synesthesia is a totally different phenomenon from this discussion.

No, seriously, it's not.

In theory, PURE sweat is ALMOST odorless, with emphasis on the almost.

However, there's pretty much no human on the planet who is going to perspire pure sweat.
Might be a personal thing.

I practically never notice the smell of sweat of people around me or myself unless the smell is poignant enough, which under normal circumstances happens very, very rarely even when the people are obviously sweating or have recently done so. Then again, I usually don't concentrate on smelling out the sweat of other people. ;)

(Note: the previous paragraph should not to be confused with clothing that smells, like socks or the sweat soaked t-shirt after exercise :tongue:)


On the other hand, I do notice deodorants and what not and am more regularly annoyed by excessive use of deodorants and perfume rather than the smell of sweat. Go figure.
As somebody who has actual synesthesia, I find this comment bizarre.
It was tongue-in-cheek comparison of combining the sensation of "Eww!" with the sensation of smell. ;)

Furthermore, if you really HAVE synesthesia then you might associate the image of wet armpits with a smell! A-ha! :tongue:

Might be a personal thing.

I practically never notice the smell of sweat of people around me or myself unless the smell is poignant enough, which under normal circumstances happens very, very rarely even when the people are obviously sweating or have recently done so. Then again, I usually don't concentrate on smelling out the sweat of other people. ;)

(Note: the previous paragraph should not to be confused with clothing that smells, like socks or the sweat soaked t-shirt after exercise :tongue:)

To be clear, I'm not saying that all sweat is horribly stinky poo-poo ucky. I'm just saying it DOES have a smell.

You might not mind the smell, and that's totally fine, just don't kid yourself...when you sweat, you do smell, and some people notice. What you choose to do about that is totally up to you.


On the other hand, I do notice deodorants and what not and am more regularly annoyed by excessive use of deodorants and perfume rather than the smell of sweat. Go figure.

I firmly believe that, if there is a Hell, one of the rings of damnation is a place where you are forever confined to a coach-class airline seat next to an extremely large man who has bathed in Axe cologne.


It was tongue-in-cheek comparison of combining the sensation of "Eww!" with the sensation of smell. ;)

Ahhh.

My humor-o-matic is fizzling today. Require more coffee, STAT.


Furthermore, if you really HAVE synesthesia then you might associate the image of wet armpits with a smell! A-ha! :tongue:
What's bizarre is that, for me, the word "sweat" is a charming pastel color, kind of like a handful of those Easter M&M candies.

Brains are weird.

I firmly believe that, if there is a Hell, one of the rings of damnation is a place where you are forever confined to a coach-class airline seat next to an extremely large man who has bathed in Axe cologne.


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I still remember the horror of a bus trip where I ended up next to a guy who smelled very much like he had worked out strenuously for several days straight, marinated himself in a sauna for another day or two, and then poured an entire bottle of cheap cologne over his head. I thought I was going to die.

To be clear, I'm not saying that all sweat is horribly stinky poo-poo ucky. I'm just saying it DOES have a smell.

You might not mind the smell, and that's totally fine, just don't kid yourself...when you sweat, you do smell, and some people notice. What you choose to do about that is totally up to you.
Well, naturally sweating changes your odor because soaking someone in salty water is bound to do that but I claim - from more or less personal perspective I admit - that odour change is neutral, ie. "odorless", rather than inherently offensive.

I s'pose YMMV though I'd say the prime culprit is the cultural indoctrination that bodily fluids and hairs are Nasty(tm) regardless off other sensory output: You see someone sweating, you presume he or she smells worse than a regular person, you (might) notice that the smell is different ergo he or she smells worse even though the smell itself wouldn't be offensive.
I firmly believe that, if there is a Hell, one of the rings of damnation is a place where you are forever confined to a coach-class airline seat next to an extremely large man who has bathed in Axe cologne.
Remember that he's sitting with his smoker wife trying to cover her habit an with excessive dose of chemicals. :gas:


(Yes!!! Finally a thread where the gasmask smiley makes sense! :hail: :eek:)

No, I don't use deodorant. I simply shower every time I start to smell. I prefer simply being clean than putting on weird chemical combinations that mask or inhibit my natural and beneficial bodily functions. I would be very sad if you masked your natural smell. So sad I'd knock you down, tie you up and prevent it from happening again.

Yes, I do tend to take a lot of showers in the summer. Yes, the pheromones do help in picking up. It might also have something to do with the sexy-ass way you dress...

slut.

You probably smell anyway. After being out and about for a good three hours or so, you'll start to stink. Usually you can't smell your own stench.

Trust me, I've smelled him at his most exerted.

mmmmmmmm.

Trust me, I've smelled him at his most exerted.

mmmmmmmm.

Miss Sinuhue! Stop eating in front of the poor.:(

Trust me, I've smelled him at his most exerted.

mmmmmmmm.

To the objective nose, he probably reeks then, too.

To the objective nose, he probably reeks then, too.

Hahahahahaa...they'd have to get awfully close to smell him at all, even then. I mean, literally shoving their head in his armpit. Which would not be socially kosher.

Well then there's that sex smell which does indeed fill the room. But that's not really what we're discussing.

I think sex smells awful, but its also very enticing. Like a trainwreck you can't stop smelling.

For the most part I've found menz deodorants less annoying, with one exception:

Old Spice melts eyeballs.

Seriously. It's like somebody took 6000 pounds of baby powder, super-compressed it into a bat, and then started hitting you in the face with said bat. Holy shit lads, nobody stinks enough to need that.

There is also Axe and all those other spray on deodorants that smell really really strong. I never understood if/how women found that sexy.

what's it smell like?

.....gravity.
Apples?