NationStates Jolt Archive


Us pmc, gtfo!

Yootopia
30-01-2009, 02:09
Sorry I couldn't find this in English anywhere.

Lizenzentzug für Blackwater im Irak: Das private Sicherheitsunternehmen darf nicht mehr in dem Land arbeiten. Der Vertrag sei beendet, sagte ein Sprecher des Innenministeriums - zur Begründung verwies er auf die Verwicklung mehrerer Blackwater-Mitarbeiter in eine Schießerei mit bis zu 17 Toten

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,604396,00.html

The long and the short of it is that Blackwater is banned from working in Iraq. Thoughts?
Ashmoria
30-01-2009, 02:12
i find it very encouraging that the iraqi government has found its balls.

although i do suppose its because of the change of administration.
Pirated Corsairs
30-01-2009, 02:12
Here's an article in English (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/world/middleeast/30blackwater.html?_r=1&hp)
Yootopia
30-01-2009, 02:14
Here's an article in English (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/world/middleeast/30blackwater.html?_r=1&hp)
Cool. I am however devastated that my title got all un-capitalised -_-
Zucamanga
30-01-2009, 02:18
i find it very encouraging that the iraqi government has found its balls.

although i do suppose its because of the change of administration.

All the american puppet governments are doing that. The afghan one (karzai?) also said he wanted to down US planes.
Ashmoria
30-01-2009, 02:19
All the american puppet governments are doing that. The afghan one (karzai?) also said he wanted to down US planes.
its a good thing. we dont need puppets.
Muravyets
30-01-2009, 02:56
All the american puppet governments are doing that. The afghan one (karzai?) also said he wanted to down US planes.
Disobedient puppets. Where do they get off, huh?

As to the OP, good for the Iraqis. If they're a sovereign government, which we keep claiming they are, they are within their rights with this action. It's not as if Blackwater doesn't deserve it by their actions there.
Zucamanga
30-01-2009, 03:30
Disobedient puppets. Where do they get off, huh?

I wonder where they bought them :tongue:
FreeSatania
30-01-2009, 04:08
Damn there goes my shares in blackwater.
Skallvia
30-01-2009, 04:14
Meh, its not like its the only one doing those things....

Not to mention, if we're sticking with the original (well, semi-original) plan of building a Democracy, its not like we could tell them no without some serious Hypocrisy going on....Not that thats ever been a problem of course, lol...But, still...
Port Arcana
30-01-2009, 06:11
About time.
greed and death
30-01-2009, 07:45
didn't they ban them from Iraq two years ago and the US and black water ignored them>???
Nodinia
30-01-2009, 10:50
didn't they ban them from Iraq two years ago and the US and black water ignored them>???

Correct.
Vetalia
30-01-2009, 10:54
All the american puppet governments are doing that. The afghan one (karzai?) also said he wanted to down US planes.

Of course, the amusing part is that Blackwater is more powerful and wealthier than his entire government. I wonder how international law works if a private company invades and annexes a country with its own forces?
Nodinia
30-01-2009, 12:58
Of course, the amusing part is that Blackwater is more powerful and wealthier than his entire government. I wonder how international law works if a private company invades and annexes a country with its own forces?

works? That would depend whether the US approves or not.
Risottia
30-01-2009, 13:02
The long and the short of it is that Blackwater is banned from working in Iraq. Thoughts?

The times are a-changing, maybe?

edit: translation of OP excerpt:
Lizenzentzug für Blackwater im Irak: Das private Sicherheitsunternehmen darf nicht mehr in dem Land arbeiten. Der Vertrag sei beendet, sagte ein Sprecher des Innenministeriums - zur Begründung verwies er auf die Verwicklung mehrerer Blackwater-Mitarbeiter in eine Schießerei mit bis zu 17 Toten.

Blackwater licence revoked in Iraq: The private security company isn't allowed to work in that country anymore. A speaker for the Ministry of Internal Affairs said that the contract is over. As motivation, he spoke of the involvement of several Backwater operatives in a gunfight with a death toll of 17.
Ashmoria
30-01-2009, 16:41
didn't they ban them from Iraq two years ago and the US and black water ignored them>???
yes but that was before the new agreement that give iraq more power to decide these things. it may not be able to keep blackwater out of our embassy or from being used as mercenaries working for the army though.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-01-2009, 16:46
Of course, the amusing part is that Blackwater is more powerful and wealthier than his entire government. I wonder how international law works if a private company invades and annexes a country with its own forces?
International law doesn't work. Presumably, it would simply be a matter of convincing China, the US, Russia, or some other major player that they (the large country) would be better off with Blackwater in charge.
Psychotic Mongooses
30-01-2009, 17:05
Of course, the amusing part is that Blackwater is more powerful and wealthier than his entire government. I wonder how international law works if a private company invades and annexes a country with its own forces?

Annexes it to what?
Call to power
30-01-2009, 17:25
this will stop the lucrative security industry in Iraq!

*watches the 100+ other companies do exactly the same thing*

its a good thing. we dont need puppets.

I don't know I mean its not like being Americas puppet is necessarily a bad thing you get tons of loans and you never have to pay for your own defense

Annexes it to what?

civilization :wink:
The Romulan Republic
30-01-2009, 17:26
Fuck Blackwater. Good riddance. Now if we can just charge them for their crimes in the US...
Ashmoria
30-01-2009, 17:38
I don't know I mean its not like being Americas puppet is necessarily a bad thing you get tons of loans and you never have to pay for your own defense



*gives CtP the look*

what is good for the puppet is not necessarily good for the puppeteer.

especially in iraq.

ok that hasnt been good for either one but the point still stands.
Cameroi
31-01-2009, 09:10
if the american government wants, as it has claimed, an iraqi government that can stand on its own, at some point, it becomes imperative, to allow that government to begin to exercise some degree of sovereignty.

for too long these 'military contractors' have had a blank check as to their own 'rules of engagement', answerable to no one. the previous administration backed that up with direct threats of military reprisals.

that the new administration in the u.s. appears willing to allow the iraqi government to actually exercise its natural authority in this matter, is a tangible step in the direction of rationality.