NationStates Jolt Archive

I think it should be asked, if we are going to allow the teaching of intelligent design "alongside" evolution, than why numerology alongside maths? Aramaic alongside English? I mean it would be truly too hard to take our children and teach them everything they can remember, in the decade or so we can, about how to survive in this world, and maybe even go to college.

There is more and more to teach every year, and the same few hours to teach it in. School kids are missing the basics of maths, science, English, et cetera, and we seriously think (or heck even want) our teachers covering the "big questions"?

What ever happened to spending time with your kids, and when they ask one of the nine billion questions that frame most of what they know, for most of their life, you talked to them about it?

Perhaps then we could even let the begrudging atheist science teacher get back to gravity, maybe?

What ever happened to spending time with your kids

This is the most important thing that you wrote in all of that. The simple answer is: it went out of style. Parents do not spend time with their kids as a general rule, and this is why we are plagued with many of the problems that we are.

Someone along the line invented the concept of "quality time" to get parents out of "quantity time", and it all went to crap.

Don't worry -- no school worth its salt will teach intelligent design as a viable possibility. Or numerology.

Because Numerology goes against the teachings of the Bib... erm... I mean, because Numerology is ridiculous.

don't forget alchemy along side chemistry!

don't forget alchemy along side chemistry!

Now you're thinking

Woah shit, don't bash protosciences...astrology, numerology and alchemy all played a role in the development of astronomy, chemistry, and number theory. They don't deserve to be insulted by being placed on the same level as intelligent design.

The Bible Code should also be covered in Bible classes

I don't mind people teaching it, even though I don't agree with it, but quasi-science has no place in the public school. If they want it taught, they should have private schools for it.

than why numerology alongside maths? Aramaic alongside English?

A bit silly perhaps, but yes, both valid points actually.

The Bible Code should also be covered in Bible classes

I agree with this. Before anyone asks you could have all the others represented. It would be a good thing for the school we would have to hire more teachers. So stop complaining...

Nice forward email repost.

Perhaps numerology is too complicated.

I believe that, in the interest if fairness, all lessons discussing gravity should be met with a companion class on intelligent falling (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512).

It's only a theory!

Perhaps numerology is too ridiculous and trivial.

Fixed.

not that I'm at all for ID teaching, I think it's against the spirit of empirical learning and ridiculous as well. Numerology, though, seems like nothing more than the product of a delusional, compulsive mind.

Fixed.

not that I'm at all for ID teaching, I think it's against the spirit of empirical learning and ridiculous as well. Numerology, though, seems like nothing more than the product of a delusional, compulsive mind.

It could prove interesting if you want to check some irrelevancy with your name or date of birth. I am guilty of recurring to numerology once or twice to check some stupid thing. But to mix it with other subjects is, well, retarded.

It could prove interesting if you want to check some irrelevancy with your name or date of birth. I am guilty of recurring to numerology once or twice to check some stupid thing. But to mix it with other subjects is, well, retarded.

My roommate is actually really into alternative spirituality and has some numerology books, as well as tarot cards and all that. Every few months he'll invite myself, our friends from upstairs, his boyfriend and a few others to have our cards read or whatever, and I always participate because it's sort of like mad libs for the soul. I'm quite incapable of thinking that there's anything mystical about these devices, but I do appreciate that they make suggestions which, like charlatan TV "ghost talkers", can spur a person to some self-analysis.

I believe that, in the interest if fairness, all lessons discussing gravity should be met with a companion class on intelligent falling (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512).

It's only a theory!

Pfft, they totally ripped off I Drew This.

http://www.idrewthis.org/comics/idt20050516gravity.gif

Children would benefit enormously if schools chose to familiarise them with the writings of a certain Russian-American philsopher instead.

Pfft, they totally ripped off I Drew This.

http://www.idrewthis.org/comics/idt20050516gravity.gif

they BOTH ripped off Jeff Stubbs

My roommate is actually really into alternative spirituality and has some numerology books, as well as tarot cards and all that. Every few months he'll invite myself, our friends from upstairs, his boyfriend and a few others to have our cards read or whatever, and I always participate because it's sort of like mad libs for the soul. I'm quite incapable of thinking that there's anything mystical about these devices, but I do appreciate that they make suggestions which, like charlatan TV "ghost talkers", can spur a person to some self-analysis.

Seldom if ever these devices hold any truth. They're good for having fun and for, in my case, kill boredom. But I understand. Sometimes, hearing something that feels like it's what we need to hear from this devices may urge us to act.

they BOTH ripped off Jeff Stubbs

No, he used the term "intelligent grappling"; IDT was the first to use "Intelligent falling".

Woah shit, don't bash protosciences...astrology, numerology and alchemy all played a role in the development of astronomy, chemistry, and number theory. They don't deserve to be insulted by being placed on the same level as intelligent design.

Indeed.
ID as promoted by the Discovery Institute and being taught in some schools in the USA is an insult to both science AND religion. The concepts of design inference and irreducible complexity have no practical value and are based on flawed reasoning - which the people who advocate it know.

ID in other words is solely an attempt to get religion in the classroom through lies and deception. Not really something even the most devout believer should herald.

This is the most important thing that you wrote in all of that. The simple answer is: it went out of style. Parents do not spend time with their kids as a general rule, and this is why we are plagued with many of the problems that we are.

Someone along the line invented the concept of "quality time" to get parents out of "quantity time", and it all went to crap.

At what point in human history did this shift occur? When was it true that parents spent most of their time educating children?

Perhaps then we could even let the begrudging atheist science teacher get back to gravity, maybe?Fuck you dude, gravity is only a theory!

No, he used the term "intelligent grappling"; IDT was the first to use "Intelligent falling".Can't we just agree that lots of 'ripping off' was involved and that I am continuing the tradition?

We only care about shoving Christianity down kids throughts.

Children would benefit enormously if schools chose to familiarise them with the writings of a certain Russian-American philsopher instead.

I think most, if not all, of society's ills could be solved in this way.

Nice forward email repost.

Nice try, but no

...wait, what's wrong with Aramaic? Is it a fake language like pig Latin?