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No one as Irish as Barack OBama (http://www.oneeyedparrot.org/obama.html)

Did you know that Barrack was Irish? :eek:

He's not Irish. He's American. Like so many "Irish" Americans.

That they didn't have some edited footage of him walking (and then repeat it over and over again) when they said "River dance" fills me with renewed loathing for my Irish ancestors. DAMN YOU PEOPLE AND YOUR TAILS AND YOUR FAERIE QUEENS!!

http://store.barackobama.com/product_p/ts26946.htm
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That they didn't have some edited footage of him walking (and then repeat it over and over again) when they said "River dance" fills me with renewed loathing for my Irish ancestors. DAMN YOU PEOPLE AND YOUR TAILS AND YOUR FAERIE QUEENS!!

Dont forget the Leperchauns.

Dont forget the Leperchauns.
Leperchauns? Are those short people with skin diseases?

Leperchauns? Are those short people with skin diseases?

.....who live in tha hood (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209095/).

Barrack Obama: Eventually, he's every minority that has ever threatened America.

Barrack Obama: Eventually, he's every minority that has ever threatened America.
Barrack Obama is Spanish or Italian or English or whatever the current imaginary European-Bastard-Conquistador is? My world and/or mind has been turned in the circles of predictable, politically correct humor!
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Barrack Obama is Spanish or Italian or English or whatever the current imaginary European-Bastard-Conquistador is? My world and/or mind has been turned in the circles of predictable, politically correct humor!

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Barack Obama I heard was the leader of..

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.....who live in tha hood (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209095/).
The greatest movie ever or movie the greatest ever? The answer is NO! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116861/) Or perhaps I am wrong. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339294/) Confucious say, "Tricky question require painful, yet indecipherable answer."

The greatest movie ever or movie the greatest ever? The answer is NO! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116861/) Or perhaps I am wrong. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339294/) Confucious say, "Tricky question require painful, yet indecipherable answer."

Is it bad if I have seen 2 out of those 3 films?

and would it be worse if I at one point owned one of those films?

Is it bad if I have seen 2 out of those 3 films?
No. It would be awesome.
and would it be worse if I at one point owned one of those films?
No. It would be awesome.

No. It would be awesome.

No. It would be awesome.

Would it be even more awesome if I owned Leperchaun in space, and saw Leperchaun in the theaters?

No, no, no...

Obama is the anti-christ (http://www.rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=1020540&postcount=44), not Irish.

I know it's easy to confuse the two but please, for the love of..umm...him, try harder next time!

Would it be even more awesome if I owned Leperchaun in space, and saw Leperchaun in the theaters?

It could only be more awesome if you banged Jennifer Aniston. On the set of Leprechaun. In the Leprechaun costume. And filmed it. And posted it.

Would it be even more awesome if I owned Leperchaun in space, and saw Leperchaun in the theaters?
Yes. Yes, it would.
I was only 6-years old when the first Leprechaun came out, but that is hardly an excuse for not seeing The Fall of Willow.

It could only be more awesome if you banged Jennifer Aniston. On the set of Leprechaun. In the Leprechaun costume. And filmed it. And posted it.

It would be more awesome if I had video of warwick davis in his leperchaun getup banging jennifer aniston, and at the end of the video, I run in naked and land a brick in her mouth.

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Yes. Yes, it would.
I was only 6-years old when the first Leprechaun came out, but that is hardly an excuse for not seeing The Fall of Willow.

I was 12 :D

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No one as Irish as Barack OBama (http://www.oneeyedparrot.org/obama.html)

Did you know that Barrack was Irish? :eek:
Of course O'Bama's Irish....
Black Irish!

*runs*

Of course O'Bama's Irish....
Black Irish!

*runs*

just like derek jeter.

Of course O'Bama's Irish....
Black Irish!

*runs*

just like derek jeter.

And Shaquille O'Neal.

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No one as Irish as Barack OBama (http://www.oneeyedparrot.org/obama.html)

Did you know that Barrack was Irish? :eek:

This is bad news.
Every single Irish American president we have elected has been shot.
50% survival rate so far.

This is bad news.
Every single Irish American president we have elected has been shot.
50% survival rate so far.

If O'Bama is a Black Irish, then it means he's a terrorist sleeper agent planted by a joint effort between Al'Qaeda and the PIRA.

He's not Irish. He's American. Like so many "Irish" Americans.

Yer. 3 millions live in Ireland. 50 million 'Irish' in America. Makes me giggle every time. I am more Irish than those people.

is he drunk yet? *black and tans his arse*

anti-christ (http://www.rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=1020540&postcount=44)

I think my mom posts on that forum :$

He doesn't have the distended belly, but may have the hairy arse. Only Mrs Obama knows for sure...

That they didn't have some edited footage of him walking (and then repeat it over and over again) when they said "River dance" fills me with renewed loathing for my Irish ancestors. DAMN YOU PEOPLE AND YOUR TAILS AND YOUR FAERIE QUEENS!!

We have Fairy Queens, but no tails.


he's a terrorist sleeper agent planted by a joint effort between Al'Qaeda and the PIRA. !!

We haven't gone away, ye know....

And Shaquille O'Neal.!!

And Ice Cube (aka O'Shea Jackson, noted Hennessy drinker)

Irish Brother! (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc01jaUti7k)

He's not Irish. He's American. Like so many "Irish" Americans.
How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?

Dont forget the Leperchauns.You mean like the one that O'Bama replaced in the White House?

How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?That depends. If you're a loser, you'll always remain "African". But if you move on, you'll become whatever you want to be.

How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?

As soon as people stop being politically correct.

As soon as people stop being politically correct.

But "Black" is racist OMG! :eek:

But "Black" is racist OMG! :eek:

I call them people, its simpler.

How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?

One. As soon as you're not born in Africa, you have NO claim to being African. Same goes with any other label.

I believe he got a heckuva tan, then.

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No one as Irish as Barack OBama (http://www.oneeyedparrot.org/obama.html)

Did you know that Barrack was Irish? :eek:

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)

How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?

1. If you have no connection what so ever with the country you claim to hail from, it's an insult to the ones living in the country to claim you are this and that.

If you have lived all your life in America, you are American.

One. As soon as you're not born in Africa, you have NO claim to being African. Same goes with any other label.

I quite agree. When I hear Americans claiming to be Norwegians, I get pissed off.

Yer. 3 millions live in Ireland. 50 million 'Irish' in America. Makes me giggle every time. I am more Irish than those people.

*lol

I've got it on good authority that I'm more Irish than you are. :p

*lol

I've got it on good authority that I'm more Irish than you are. :p

I was making a point, seeing that I've actually been there, I have family there, and most Americans claiming to be Irish haven't even set foot anywhere in Europe.

I was making a point, seeing that I've actually been there, I have family there, and most Americans claiming to be Irish haven't even set foot anywhere in Europe.

I know. I don't have family here, but having lived here for 6 years now and most probably raising my kids here in the future, I've been told by more than one Irish person that I'm more Irish than any of the plastic paddies. ;)

1. If you have no connection what so ever with the country you claim to hail from, it's an insult to the ones living in the country to claim you are this and that.

I never go any further than to claim my family is Dutch-Irish from Appalachia and only when asked. I don't claim to be Irish, just that I had Irish family once upon a time. Or are we talking about people who've lived 55 years in the US and claim they are Irish because their Great Great Grandfather Pappy O'Rork was from Ireland?

How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?

have you seen the Bronx...

That depends. If you're a loser, you'll always remain "African". But if you move on, you'll become whatever you want to be.

Asian?

I'm more Irish than any of the plastic paddies. ;)

sounds like a challenge!

I never go any further than to claim my family is Dutch-Irish from Appalachia and only when asked. I don't claim to be Irish, just that I had Irish family once upon a time. Or are we talking about people who've lived 55 years in the US and claim they are Irish because their Great Great Grandfather Pappy O'Rork was from Ireland?

The second one.

This is one of the many things which confuses me about Americans. You are patriotic and all that, waving the flag at every occasion. Why still feel the need for the hyphenations?

I know. I don't have family here, but having lived here for 6 years now and most probably raising my kids here in the future, I've been told by more than one Irish person that I'm more Irish than any of the plastic paddies.

It is a beautiful country. We go there almost every year to visit family, and almost makes me wish I lived there. Although as a non-native English speaker it is at times impossible to understand what people are saying. Especially when you travel out on the country side.

The second one.

This is one of the many things which confuses me about Americans. You are patriotic and all that, waving the flag at every occasion. Why still feel the need for the hyphenations?

Because I was always lead to beleive Dutch-Irish was supposed to be hyphenated and German Irish wasn't? o.O

Far as I'm concerned I'm American but so many of us seem to think we need to have a pedigree that traces us back to at least one immigrant from every country, a midieval lord, and a Seminole War Chief. I don't understand my own countrymen.

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)
I am not Irish at all. If anything, I have Puerto Rican and Sicilian ancestors. No Irish here.

1. If you have no connection what so ever with the country you claim to hail from, it's an insult to the ones living in the country to claim you are this and that.

If you have lived all your life in America, you are American.



I quite agree. When I hear Americans claiming to be Norwegians, I get pissed off.
Why? Because they respect their heritage enough to carry over the cuisine, the dances, the music, the clothes of, and identify with their ancestors?

Silly thing to get angry about, especially when you are talking about visiting your family in Ireland but can't even speak the language -- how does that differ substantially from the people you're talking about? And are you truly saying that NO American ever travels to Europe to see where their ancestry derives from? Because frankly, that's nonsense. Check out how many airlines offer flights between the countries of the world and the United States -- they aren't all one way and into the States, no matter what some in the States may act like.

I am not Irish at all. If anything, I have Puerto Rican and Sicilian ancestors. No Irish here.

You're a first, so. You really are. :)


Why? Because they respect their heritage enough to carry over the cuisine, the dances, the music, the clothes of, and identify with their ancestors?

Silly thing to get angry about, especially when you are talking about visiting your family in Ireland but can't even speak the language -- how does that differ substantially from the people you're talking about? And are you truly saying that NO American ever travels to Europe to see where their ancestry derives from? Because frankly, that's nonsense. Check out how many airlines offer flights between the countries of the world and the United States -- they aren't all one way and into the States, no matter what some in the States may act like.

Hmm... no not exactly. I've met Irish-American, and German-Americans and Italian-Americans, as well as Irish and Germans and Italians.
What seems to happen is that the American version of whichever nationality you pick identify with what that nationality would have been like decades if not centuries ago. And then adding own creations to it. It usually has very little indeed to do with what these cultures are in fact like today.
An example would be the Irish-Americans' support for the IRA.

Imagine a French guy walking up to you in the street and introducing himself as Amercian because he supports slavery or segregation. That's somewhat similar to what it's like for the Irish having people in the US claim to be Irish as well.

Why? Because they respect their heritage enough to carry over the cuisine, the dances, the music, the clothes of, and identify with their ancestors?

If they truly were that bothered, they wouldn't be living in USA at all. Besides, when I went to America last year, I met one of these people. They apparently still think Norway is like it was when their ancestors moved from there in the 1800s, and when they saw we were dressed like normal, modern Western people, we were told we weren't 'proper' Norwegians, like themselves were.

Waving the American flag in one hand, while wearing the traditional clothing, listening to the traditional music and eating traditional food, is just wrong.



Silly thing to get angry about, especially when you are talking about visiting your family in Ireland but can't even speak the language -- how does that differ substantially from the people you're talking about?

My aunt and uncle moved to Ireland 30-40 years ago. I do speak English, but as I said far from a native level. I go there to visit them on holidays. I'm not Irish in any way.

And are you truly saying that NO American ever travels to Europe to see where their ancestry derives from? Because frankly, that's nonsense. Check out how many airlines offer flights between the countries of the world and the United States -- they aren't all one way and into the States, no matter what some in the States may act like.

No, I don't say that, and I never did. I said most don't.

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)

Remember that insecurity about national identity thing we talked about in the other thread? That's at play here as well.

Remember that insecurity about national identity thing we talked about in the other thread? That's at play here as well.

Yes, and it's just as puzzling, really. I mean, they live in the most powerful country on the planet, there are plenty of things they could identify with... yet they choose to identify with countries that to their mind are still somewhat 3rd world (considering that they usually think off those countries in terms of what it was like a century or so ago).

Do you think it could be in a way a longing to still be the underdog rather than the big guy? Because everybody likes the underdog?

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)
I remember reading somewhere that there are more people who claim Irish ancestry in the US than there are people in Ireland, or something like that. The standard recipe for South-Eastern white trash is 1/16 Native American, 1/8 Irish, fill the rest with whatever is on hand.

I remember reading somewhere that there are more people who claim Irish ancestry in the US than there are people in Ireland, or something like that. The standard recipe for South-Eastern white trash is 1/16 Native American, 1/8 Irish, fill the rest with whatever is on hand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_American:

A total of 35,975,855 Americans (12% of total population) reported Irish ancestry in the 2006 American Community Survey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland:

The population of the island is slightly under 6 million (2006), with 4.2 million in the Republic of Ireland[3] and an estimated almost 1.75 million in Northern Ireland.

6 times more apparently.

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)
To be fair, its slightly different in this case. Its more the Irish trying to claim Obama rather than Obama claiming to be Irish. There was a programme on the other day talking about his irish roots. They interviewed a lad who was introduced as a "distant cousin."



It is a beautiful country. We go there almost every year to visit family, and almost makes me wish I lived there. Although as a non-native English speaker it is at times impossible to understand what people are saying. Especially when you travel out on the country side.

It's not just the non-native speakers who have issues with the Irish accents. Being a N.Irish student in a scottish university, plenty of english and scottish people struggle with understanding the N.Irish take on the language.

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)
I was just wondering...I mean I'll tell my grandfather that he doesn't count since he moved here in the 30's or whatever.....I mean I know I don't count but having both sets of grandparents immigrating here......I can at least claim to have Irish ancestors, you know that are still alive.....

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)

Forgive me, but I always thought you were German living in Ireland?

Forgive me, but I always thought you were German living in Ireland?

I am, yes.

I was just wondering...I mean I'll tell my grandfather that he doesn't count since he moved here in the 30's or whatever.....I mean I know I don't count but having both sets of grandparents immigrating here......I can at least claim to have Irish ancestors, you know that are still alive.....

Hey, I don't decide who's Irish and who isn't. The clue is usually in the passport. ;)

If they truly were that bothered, they wouldn't be living in USA at all.

Many Irish left Ireland because of the Potato Famine. Others left to send money home in the form of remittances. Yet if they truly were bothered they should have stayed home and left their families to starve or poverty? Should they have left the lives and homes they sacrificed to build? Should children be expected to leave the home they grew up in, home meaning nation?


Besides, when I went to America last year, I met one of these people. They apparently still think Norway is like it was when their ancestors moved from there in the 1800s, and when they saw we were dressed like normal, modern Western people, we were told we weren't 'proper' Norwegians, like themselves were.

One person? Way to stereotype.


Waving the American flag in one hand, while wearing the traditional clothing, listening to the traditional music and eating traditional food, is just wrong.

Why?

To everyone, did the Jew's stop being jew after the first and second diasporas? Why or why not? Are secular jews still jewish?

Many Irish left Ireland because of the Potato Famine. Others left to send money home in the form of remittances. Yet if they truly were bothered they should have stayed home and left their families to starve or poverty? Should they have left the lives and homes they sacrificed to build? Should children be expected to leave the home they grew up in, home meaning nation?


You do realise that was well over 150 years ago?



Why?

To everyone, did the Jew's stop being jew after the first and second diasporas? Why or why not? Are secular jews still jewish?

Are you trying to imply that being Jewish prevents someone from having a nationality? What about Protestants, then? Or Buddhists?

Yeah, this was mentioned once or twice in the media here. Crazy how that works, Irish media reporting on Obama's Irish heritage.

*lol

I've got it on good authority that I'm more Irish than you are. :p

I was making a point, seeing that I've actually been there, I have family there, and most Americans claiming to be Irish haven't even set foot anywhere in Europe.
I'm more Irish than either of you. http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
I am not Irish at all. If anything, I have Puerto Rican and Sicilian ancestors. No Irish here.
Don't worry, you're still cool.

I'm more Irish than either of you. http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif



*lol No arguments there, but just wait until I can afford that fecking citizenship! ;)

*lol No arguments there, but just wait until I can afford that fecking citizenship! ;)

Pfft, my passport would drink your passport under the table.

Pfft, my passport would drink your passport under the table.

You're a student, its genetically determined that you can't hold your Bud-lite. The German Paddy will triumph.

Barack Obama is not human! He's an alien for another galaxy!

You're a student, its genetically determined that you can't hold your Bud-lite. The German Paddy will triumph.

Lies, students drink more than anyone. We have disposable income and nothing better to do with it.

Lies, students drink more than anyone. We have disposable income and nothing better to do with it.

Well, think of it this way : I used to be a student. And I've had years of practice since. :p

Well, think of it this way : I used to be a student. And I've had years of practice since. :p

And years of liver damage. :)

And years of liver damage. :)

*pokes her side* Nope, still going strong.

Maybe his mother was? I dunno, nor do I care.

Lies, students drink more than anyone. We have disposable income and nothing better to do with it.


Drink more, but still unable to handle it. Manys the night I'd be there, watchin yez spew yer guts up between verses of "American pie" in yer bedsits.....except for the Trinity people...'Daddy rented me this Aportment in D4...yah'

How many generations away from Africa before you're not "African" American anymore?
Ohhhhh......that is a damn good question!! :D

Hey, I don't decide who's Irish and who isn't. The clue is usually in the passport. ;)
None of my African-American, Native American, or Latino-American friends have passports. :confused: How will I know where their ancestors came from?

None of my African-American, Native American, or Latino-American friends have passports. :confused: How will I know where their ancestors came from?

Huh? How many passports have sections for ancestry? :confused:

Huh? How many passports have sections for ancestry? :confused:

They don't. I was just wondering why it's such a problem to say that I have an Irish heritage.......I mean my friends have their own heritages......but I can't or I'm a 'fake'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_American:

A total of 35,975,855 Americans (12% of total population) reported Irish ancestry in the 2006 American Community Survey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland:

The population of the island is slightly under 6 million (2006), with 4.2 million in the Republic of Ireland[3] and an estimated almost 1.75 million in Northern Ireland.

6 times more apparently.
This is proof positive that when the Irish emigrated to America they adopted the breeding instincts of rabbits!! :D

This is proof positive that when the Irish emigrated to America they adopted the breeding instincts of rabbits!! :D

Indeed. *has 32 first cousins*

They don't. I was just wondering why it's such a problem to say that I have an Irish heritage.......I mean my friends have their own heritages......but I can't or I'm a 'fake'.

No problem with that at all. The thing that gets people's goats is claiming to BE Irish because of your ancestry, not simply stating that you've got the ancestry. ;)

No problem with that at all. The thing that gets people's goats is claiming to BE Irish because of your ancestry, not simply stating that you've got the ancestry. ;)

People not from Ireland claim to be from Ireland? :confused:

I thought we were talking about Irish-Americans....

Yes, and it's just as puzzling, really. I mean, they live in the most powerful country on the planet, there are plenty of things they could identify with... yet they choose to identify with countries that to their mind are still somewhat 3rd world (considering that they usually think off those countries in terms of what it was like a century or so ago).

Do you think it could be in a way a longing to still be the underdog rather than the big guy? Because everybody likes the underdog?

That's a very good question. I'm really not sure. As a kid my family impressed upon me that we were of German origin, and everyone knows and uses a word or two of German in everyday speech but when I moved to Germany with the Army I lost any illusion I had of being "German".

I'm more Irish than either of you. http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

Yeah, but Barry O'Bama from old Moneygall has you beat, which brings us back on topic.

Indeed. *has 32 first cousins*

Holy crap! I only have 8.

People not from Ireland claim to be from Ireland? :confused:

I thought we were talking about Irish-Americans....

We are. But I had a fight with one of them a while ago on this very forum because he claimed to be from Eire... based on the fact that he had learned Gealic and his grandmother had always made donations to the IRA.
I wasn't the only one trying to de-delude that guy, though, most of the Irish here were quite outraged.

I hold this thread up as evidence that since Bush is gone, the usual posters on NSG won't have anything to talk about.

That's a very good question. I'm really not sure. As a kid my family impressed upon me that we were of German origin, and everyone knows and uses a word or two of German in everyday speech but when I moved to Germany with the Army I lost any illusion I had of being "German".


Hehe... at least you did realise it, and didn't get angry at the Germans for not being what you thought was "German".
Rusty had quite a hard time with the here when he was still posting as Kievan-Prussia ;)

I hold this thread up as evidence that since Bush is gone, the usual posters on NSG won't have anything to talk about.

Yes... the comedians and us, we'll be hard hit by the loss.

Drink more, but still unable to handle it. Manys the night I'd be there, watchin yez spew yer guts up between verses of "American pie" in yer bedsits.....except for the Trinity people...'Daddy rented me this Aportment in D4...yah'

I live in D4........
>.>
<.<

Hehe... at least you did realise it, and didn't get angry at the Germans for not being what you thought was "German".
Rusty had quite a hard time with the here when he was still posting as Kievan-Prussia ;)

The cool thing is that my family is originally from Hesse-Kassel (my ancestor was one of those troops the Brits sent to fight against the American rebels) and I was stationed in Friedberg.

I'd been to Europe before (France, to be exact) so I knew Germany wasn't still a land of leiderhosen and funny green hats (apart from Bavaria, of course but they hardly count). Anyway, due to my choice of profession and course of study I'm far more in tune with French culture than with German culture. That drove Germans nuts when they learned my last name (which is extremely German) and found out that I spoke French instead of German.

The cool thing is that my family is originally from Hesse-Kassel (my ancestor was one of those troops the Brits sent to fight against the American rebels) and I was stationed in Friedberg.

I'd been to Europe before (France, to be exact) so I knew Germany wasn't still a land of leiderhosen and funny green hats (apart from Bavaria, of course but they hardly count). Anyway, due to my choice of profession and course of study I'm far more in tune with French culture than with German culture. That drove Germans nuts when they learned my last name (which is extremely German) and found out that I spoke French instead of German.

*lol
You could've told them you're from Switzerland, or Luxembourg, or even just the Alsace ;)

*lol
You could've told them you're from Switzerland, or Luxembourg, or even just the Alsace ;)

Actually, my accent in French at the time could possibly have passed for Swiss, at least to someone who didn't know the accent all that well. Of course, my not-quite Canadian accent in English would immediately give me away.

On a related note, Alsatians need to decide whether they're speaking French or German.

Actually, my accent in French at the time could possibly have passed for Swiss, at least to someone who didn't know the accent all that well. Of course, my not-quite Canadian accent in English would immediately give me away.

On a related note, Alsatians need to decide whether they're speaking French or German.

Why would they need to decide? I like bilingual countries and towns, I always find two or more languages spoken anywhere very inspiring and creative.

I've lived in Ireland for almost 6 years now. It's my experience that ALL USAmericans are Irish... they usually tell you so in their second sentence.
"Plastic Paddies" is what they're called over here. ;)

Please, I have a German Ancestry. I may not be German myself, but my ancestor did hail from Germany. They came to America in 1900.

Please, I have a German Ancestry. I may not be German myself, but my ancestor did hail from Germany. They came to America in 1900.

*calculates*

That's roughly 4 generations. And in all that time, nobody of your family married anybody whose ancestors had come from Ireland?

*calculates*

That's roughly 4 generations. And in all that time, nobody of your family married anybody whose ancestors had come from Ireland?

My dad side came from Germany in the 1900. As for my mom, well we were only able to go as far back as the Civil War, where her family were in the Appalachian Mountains.

Why would they need to decide? I like bilingual countries and towns, I always find two or more languages spoken anywhere very inspiring and creative.

No, I was joking about how Alsatian French sounds rather German.

*calculates*

That's roughly 4 generations. And in all that time, nobody of your family married anybody whose ancestors had come from Ireland?
:p Probably did....

Also, my family got here recently so, yeah.

I'm only an alcoholic because my father is Irish.

I'm only an alcoholic because my father is Irish.

Sure, blame us.

You do realise that was well over 150 years ago?

Yes. Its one reason why there are so many Irish Americans. Exponential growth and all.

Are you trying to imply that being Jewish prevents someone from having a nationality? What about Protestants, then? Or Buddhists?

Being Jewish is more of being a "people" or ethnicity than universal religions, which are supposed to be for everyone. Here is a wikipedia entry on Jewish Atheism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist_Jew). Here's a list of relatively well known Jewish Atheists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_atheists).

I live in D4........
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I thought you were in UCD.....

You don't have a GF called Circa, do you?

Yes. Its one reason why there are so many Irish Americans. Exponential growth and all.


You know what's odd about this?
People keep going on about Irish Americans, and African Americans. Wouldn't it be more correct to call them European Americans? After all, from the 2nd generation onward very few people would have exclusively Irish ancestry...


Being Jewish is more of being a "people" or ethnicity than universal religions, which are supposed to be for everyone. Here is a wikipedia entry on Jewish Atheism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist_Jew). Here's a list of relatively well known Jewish Atheists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_atheists).

Ever heard of Catholic Atheists? They're numerous and plentyful, but that doesn't make Catholicism an ethnicity.

I'm only an alcoholic because my father is Irish.


Thats what you'd like to think, but the truth is he's probably just given you a tendency to go to fat and a rather hirsute posterior....

As for my mom, well we were only able to go as far back as the Civil War, where her family were in the Appalachian Mountains.

lol did they have all their teeth ??

Many Irish left Ireland because of the Potato Famine. Others left to send money home in the form of remittances. Yet if they truly were bothered they should have stayed home and left their families to starve or poverty? Should they have left the lives and homes they sacrificed to build? Should children be expected to leave the home they grew up in, home meaning nation?

Breaking news: There is no famine any more.

If they "loved their country" that much and all that, they would have gone back as soon as they had the chance.

Breaking news: There is no famine any more.

If they "loved their country" that much and all that, they would have gone back as soon as they had the chance.

What, 3rd generation Americans? You're talking about the offspring of the offspring of the people who actually came from Ireland. You're talking about people who got all they know about Ireland from their grandparents' stories. It's nice to be nostalgic about, but not enough to actually up and leave.
Also, when they do get to Ireland, they tend to see that nostalgia fading within minutes...

I'm only an alcoholic because my father is Irish.
There is no commonality with the Irish there, but there is commonality with the alcoholic who tends to blame others for their shortcomings. :D

Breaking news: There is no famine any more.

If they "loved their country" that much and all that, they would have gone back as soon as they had the chance.

come over here and take a look the Irish here took over the whole continent. We are wondering why if you love your people so much why arent you over here with the majority of them?

come over here and take a look the Irish here took over the whole continent. We are wondering why if you love your people so much why arent you over here with the majority of them?

Because the country Ireland lies in Ireland, not America. They are my country men all of a sudden? No, I was just making them the example of this observation. You are 'Insert European country'-American one second, then the next second we are all 'Euro trash'.

Breaking news: There is no famine any more.

If they "loved their country" that much and all that, they would have gone back as soon as they had the chance.

Breaking news: ethnic groups and countries are not the same thing.

lol did they have all their teeth ??

*kicks you in the nuts*

Only I get to make fun of my hick family!

You know what's odd about this?
People keep going on about Irish Americans, and African Americans. Wouldn't it be more correct to call them European Americans? After all, from the 2nd generation onward very few people would have exclusively Irish ancestry..

It'd be simpler, yes.

Ever heard of Catholic Atheists? They're numerous and plentyful, but that doesn't make Catholicism an ethnicity.

True, but Jews are an ethnicity. Here's a wikipedia on ethnic divisions within the Jewish ethnic group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions)

i noticed some of you have german ancestory. my mother's side is all german and dad is half. my family was mennonite and mennonites in previous generations were likely to marry among themselves.
And naturality is dunham an irish name? that was his mama's maiden name. i know because i have read that in places.

i noticed some of you have german ancestory. my mother's side is all german and dad is half. my family was mennonite and mennonites in previous generations were likely to marry among themselves. and naturality is dunham an irish name? that was his mama's maiden name. i know because i have read that in places.

I thought the Mennonites were from Switzerland?

finally heard the song tonight on annie o'day hespec's celtic cadence. good giggles.

i see no reason to doubt ONE of his MANY ancestors was from there. (county mayo i think someone said)

top o the mizzle to ya my izzle nizzle.

my ancestry goes back to alsace-lorraine, cabra west but mennonite religion orginated in switzerland i think. my last name is a german name

I was making a point, seeing that I've actually been there, I have family there, and most Americans claiming to be Irish haven't even set foot anywhere in Europe.

I bet you $100 I'm more Irish than you.

You might as well just give me the money. It make sense.

Also, I'd quite like the money,

People not from Ireland claim to be from Ireland? :confused:

Yeah? Not exactly regularly, but enough that it becomes entirely laughable.

For example...(and I'm massively paraphrasing a conversation I had with someone in Switzerland one time)

Random guy: [in a fairly strong Texas accent] Is that an Irish accent?
Me: Erm...yeah?
RG: Ah cool, yeah I'm Irish too!
Me: Eh...really?
RG: Yeah, my granny was from Ireland
Me: Yeah...OK....nice...

And that's paraphrasing just one of many similar conversations I've had in the UK, in Ireland, in the US, and elsewhere, invariably with Americans.

We are. But I had a fight with one of them a while ago on this very forum because he claimed to be from Eire... based on the fact that he had learned Gealic and his grandmother had always made donations to the IRA.
I wasn't the only one trying to de-delude that guy, though, most of the Irish here were quite outraged.

I remember that actually. I think I had quite a go at him, told him he was a wanker and then couldn't help but point out how much of a dick his grandmother was. Except in marginally more acceptable language.

I'm only an alcoholic because my father is Irish.

That's the excuse I use. When people ask why I drink more than most alcoholics they know I tell them it's because my mother is Irish too.

Breaking news: There is no famine any more.

I dunno. I took a potato out of the cupboard the other day and it looked a bit off so I didn't eat it. Nearly starved to death until I found a Pot Noodle.

i noticed some of you have german ancestory. my mother's side is all german and dad is half. my family was mennonite and mennonites in previous generations were likely to marry among themselves. and naturality is dunham an irish name? that was his mama's maiden name. i know because i have read that in places.

From your post I can only assume than Dunham is an inbred name.

nadkor the "and" on is not related to the first part. the last part was a response to just one post. i split the two parts up now. i could have made separate posts. but they might have been too close together in time. my last name could be inbred.
No clue about dunham but most likely not. sorry for the confusion