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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2161655.ece

Please check out the video in the middle of the page.

I loled. Seriously, if you see a guy doing this, how can you not take some pictures making fun of him?

EDIT: Is it true they're not allowed to react unless you do something overtly threatening?

He's a soldier he has standing orders not to do anything unless physically attacked or threated.

He's a soldier he has standing orders not to do anything unless physically attacked or threated.

And I'm asking, how can you not take advantage of this for humor?

Its not like he bayonetted the kid, he just shoved him.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2161655.ece

Please check out the video in the middle of the page.

I loled. Seriously, if you see a guy doing this, how can you not take some pictures making fun of him?

EDIT: Is it true they're not allowed to react unless you do something overtly threatening?

Yes it's true. They have to be incredibly disciplined and only act out if the Royals or they are in danger.

Its not like he bayonetted the kid, he just shoved him.

Oh the kid deserved it. I'm not saying anything different.

Its not like he bayonetted the kid, he just shoved him.

Yeah I understand but It's not a question of whats reasonable. He's a soldier he has one function in life - to obey orders reasonable or not.

He's a soldier he has one function in life - to obey orders reasonable or not.Haha. You're funny.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2161655.ece

Please check out the video in the middle of the page.

I loled. Seriously, if you see a guy doing this, how can you not take some pictures making fun of him?

EDIT: Is it true they're not allowed to react unless you do something overtly threatening?

I'd want a better source than The Sun, before I took the story seriously enough to even question.

"The Sun" is at the vanguard of British "Elvis Has Alien's Baby" stories.

The video doesn't do it for you?

Haha that is pretty funny. Kinda sucks for the guard tho you know?

Why do they even need those monkey-suited guards? Seems like an expensive tradition more than anything else. They've become idiot tourist magnets.

The video doesn't do it for you?

Who?

Me? No - the video doesn't 'do it' for me. Do you have any special information I'm lacking that allows you to definitively pinpoint where the 'event' is taking place? It wouldn't be a hard scenario to fake.

Seriously, if my job was like that, I would sometimes have thoughts. I would think how my job is a gimmick, and my life is just a tourist attraction, basically my life would be a bit of a joke, so I don't blame the guy for losing it.

Seriously, if my job was like that, I would sometimes have thoughts. I would think how my job is a gimmick, and my life is just a tourist attraction, basically my life would be a bit of a joke, so I don't blame the guy for losing it.
i do.

if he cant keep his composure when an idiot tourist marches around acting the fool, he shouldnt be in that job.

those guys are subjected to much worse than that and they maintain their discipline.

Seriously, if my job was like that, I would sometimes have thoughts. I would think how my job is a gimmick, and my life is just a tourist attraction, basically my life would be a bit of a joke, so I don't blame the guy for losing it.

because your job is a tourist attraction, is more reason to maintain your cool. ESPECIALLY when you are in uniform and on duty.

now off hours... :D

In addition to the sentry, I would have had several other soldiers on pie sniper duty to deal with punks like this. :)

In addition to the sentry, I would have had several other soldiers on pie sniper duty to deal with punks like this. :)

y'know... we really need to mass produce those splurge guns used in 'Bugsy Malone'.

i do.

if he cant keep his composure when an idiot tourist marches around acting the fool, he shouldnt be in that job.

those guys are subjected to much worse than that and they maintain their discipline.

True, he shouldn't be in the job, but I still sympathise with him.

Send the kid to the Tower. While thats going on, I'll be pouring petrol over The Sun's HQ and printing presses in step 1 of a simple 2 step plan to stop that pile of festering shit ever being published again. Awful paper. I've had a burning desire to destroy it for some time.

y'know... we really need to mass produce those splurge guns used in 'Bugsy Malone'.

I would approve of this.

And I'm asking, how can you not take advantage of this for humor?

exactly that: taking advantage. kid deserved it, good on the guard. don't take any shit from anyone ;)

Yeah I understand but It's not a question of whats reasonable. He's a soldier he has one function in life - to obey orders reasonable or not.

I believe the Neuronburg trials disproved that notion.

I believe the Neuronburg trials disproved that notion.

I laughed.

Scottish ppl have short fuses.

I laughed.

Why?

Why?

Nürnberg

Nürnberg

I hate Google...

I believe the Neuronburg trials disproved that notion.

Meh, you have to respect the chain of command.

Meh, you have to respect the chain of command.

Nürnberg says no.

i do.

if he cant keep his composure when an idiot tourist marches around acting the fool, he shouldnt be in that job.

those guys are subjected to much worse than that and they maintain their discipline.
thats true, but still, aren't you being a little tough on the guy? i mean, i'd hit the kid too, discipline or no discipline,

Nürnberg says no.
I'd rather listen to Neuronburg. He seems like a clever duck, very brainy.

Why do they even need those monkey-suited guards? Seems like an expensive tradition more than anything else. They've become idiot tourist magnets.

They might wear goofy uniforms and walk funny but they are well trained in security; think of them as an obvious secret service.

Send the kid to the Tower. While thats going on, I'll be pouring petrol over The Sun's HQ and printing presses in step 1 of a simple 2 step plan to stop that pile of festering shit ever being published again. Awful paper. I've had a burning desire to destroy it for some time.

I see what you did here.

Yeah I understand but It's not a question of whats reasonable. He's a soldier he has one function in life - to obey orders reasonable or not.

Lulz.

Anyway, that joe (or whatever the Brits call him) shouldn't have done that and should be sent back tot he Scottish Rifles or wherever he came from. If people are douchebags you need to just CM (Charlie Mike, or Continue Mission) and not worry about what they're doing. This guy decided to act unprofessionally and add to the douchebagginess of this scenario.

I see what you did here.

And funny it was.


I think the guards should be able to act as they choose. A threat to them is a threat indirectly to the Queen, therefore all necessary action should be initiated.

Is it just in England that this happens? Do guards in other countries not stand guard in the middle of the street? Surely this is an instance tourist attraction world over? I'm surprised more people aren't injured regularly, probably deserving it.

The soldier should have just ignored the kid - it's a part of his job to dress up in a stupid hat as part of the ceremonial guard. I would bet any money that if the kid continued to 'harrass' the guard he would have swiftly been moved along by the local plod.
These guards are hardly the last line in defense of the Royal family - there are loads more soldiers in normal combat gear waiting behind the scenes.
I bet the kid wouldn't try and take the piss out of an American marine on ceremonial duty around the president - he would have quickly been removed

Lulz.

Anyway, that joe (or whatever the Brits call him) shouldn't have done that and should be sent back tot he Scottish Rifles or wherever he came from. If people are douchebags you need to just CM (Charlie Mike, or Continue Mission) and not worry about what they're doing. This guy decided to act unprofessionally and add to the douchebagginess of this scenario.

And that's the truth, the bloke did not perform his job correctly, if I did not perform my job correctly I would expect a bollocking, I have no sympathy for him.

And funny it was.


I think the guards should be able to act as they choose. A threat to them is a threat indirectly to the Queen, therefore all necessary action should be initiated.

Is it just in England that this happens? Do guards in other countries not stand guard in the middle of the street? Surely this is an instance tourist attraction world over? I'm surprised more people aren't injured regularly, probably deserving it.

Just how is a kid marching along with you but at a clear distance of about 5 feet threatening?

I'd want a better source than The Sun, before I took the story seriously enough to even question.

"The Sun" is at the vanguard of British "Elvis Has Alien's Baby" stories.

Lol! Like the National Enquirer!:D

Lol! Like the National Enquirer!:D

Well not quite, the publication he has got it mixed up with is of course the 'Daily Sport' and 'Sunday Sport' 'Elvis found on the moon' was an actual headline from the Sunday Sport a good ten years ago or more.

The Sun is actualy the UK's best selling paper, and yes as with any tabloid you have to be carefull about what to belive. This story though in todays Sun, has pictures so I guess that is proof enough of it happening.:D

Well not quite, the publication he has got it mixed up with is of course the 'Daily Sport' and 'Sunday Sport' 'Elvis found on the moon' was an actual headline from the Sunday Sport a good ten years ago or more.

The Sun is actualy the UK's best selling paper, and yes as with any tabloid you have to be carefull about what to belive. This story though in todays Sun, has pictures so I guess that is proof enough of it happening.:D

The Weekly World News has pictures of Bat Boy too.

The Sun's filthy Murdoch news, so it's best not to believe it when it does anything.

Anyways, I have sympathy with that Guardsman. Yeah, he probably shouldn't have reacted like that, but it's all too easy to snap if someone's pissing you off, orders or no.

There's a story that the reason why the ones outside of Buckingham Palace are mainly deployed behind the fence, because in the 1950s one Guardsman got really pissed off with a tourist and kicked them. Since then, to avoid incidents like this, they've mainly been kept out of the way.

Yeah, he probably shouldn't have reacted like that, but it's all too easy to snap if someone's pissing you off, orders or no.

No not really, it is actualy supprisingly easy to take a deep breath and count to ten.

Would have been funnier if he had thrown his shoes.

No, not really. It is actually surprisingly easy to take a deep breath and count to ten.
I've found that it tends to be better, myself at least, just to get the hell away from the person who's pissing me off rather than counting to ten, but I don't imagine that the guardsman really had that opportunity.

Just how is a kid marching along with you but at a clear distance of about 5 feet threatening?

Well, what if the kid was waiting for the guard to stop and turn, and they would sneak around while he wasn't looking and go and murder the Queen?! Eh? :p

No not really, it is actualy supprisingly easy to take a deep breath and count to ten.

Often when I'm being trolled in school, I just close my eyes for about five seconds. That somehow relaxes me and after that I just don't care about them.

Maybe it wasn't the first tourist to bother him that day? Perhaps he had been there for 6 hours in the cold with idiots like that guy mocking him all day long and he thought to himself "I am gonna goosestep all over the next bloke who thinks this job is existent just for him to get his jollies."

thats true, but still, aren't you being a little tough on the guy? i mean, i'd hit the kid too, discipline or no discipline,
no you wouldnt. by the time you got to an honor detail you would have enough self control to obey orders even when the tourists get annoying.

Maybe it wasn't the first tourist to bother him that day? Perhaps he had been there for 6 hours in the cold with idiots like that guy mocking him all day long and he thought to himself "I am gonna goosestep all over the next bloke who thinks this job is existent just for him to get his jollies."

It doesn't matter if it was the first or thousandth tourist to fuck with him that day. He may not like what that tourist was doing, but if he's been in the military for more than twenty seconds he should be very well aware that what he does and does not like has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

If he's not disciplined enough to ignore something as monumentally unimportant as silly tourists he really doesn't need to be on that detail.

Well not quite, the publication he has got it mixed up...

Nothing 'mixed up' about it. Star... Sun.. Sport: they're variants on a theme. You can't trust any one of them.

i'm glad i didn't have his job. i've been in the military and one thing i've never understood, and maybe this is why they wanted to get rid of me bad enough to give me an early honorable discharge, but at what point does actual guarding take precidence over ritual parade guarding if both are part of the job? how does one determine when is and is not the right time to do so? i've just never understood how any of these visible guards, with all the ritual formality and protocal the're expected, required, to maintain, are supposed to be ABLE, with all that, to DO the job, of actually guarding ANYTHING.

(i mean not just these guys at the national palaces in gb, but the presidential gyreenes in the u.s. as well)

no you wouldnt. by the time you got to an honor detail you are supposed to have enough self control to obey orders even when the tourists get annoying.

fixed. since the soldier didn't have such control.