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Haha, this might be the worst place of all places to come to find stuff like this out from, but I need some help desperately.

I like this girl, and I know she likes me, but every time I am around here, I feel like I am dropping the ball.

How do I stop from falling into the friend zone with this one.

Umm, you came to an internet forum with a bunch of political science nerds. Are you sure you're in the right place?

Fuck, you should have read my old thread which I can't find.

I like this girl, and I know she likes me, but every time I am around here, I feel like I am dropping the ball.

That's far more information than anyone would need to tailor a specific solution for someone in your situation. Can you condense it a bit? Thanks in advance.

Fuck, you should have read my old thread which I can't find.

Because it'd take a team of crack researchers to find something like that in your lengthy history as threadstarter. Right? :D

Galloism, I realize that this is a total sausage fest, but I figure there is at least one fella or lady that knows what they are doing

Just ask her if she wants to catch a movie and dinner sometime.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578654

I would say that you should just take a deep breath and ask her out. Trust me, if you do it, and you know she likes you, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

You hang out with and flirt with her regularly. Then, when planning your next outing with her (by MSN or phone or however you're most comfortable), semi-jokingly ask if this one's a "date". From there it just depends on her reaction.
Or at least that worked on me, but I already liked him from the outset.

Advice I gave Black Kids a few weeks back:


The world's population is 52% female, and more males than females are homosexual according to surveys, so 97% of the male population is looking for women, and 98% of the female population is looking for men.

The Earth's human population is roughly 6.5 Billion these days; applying the adjusted percentages 3,331,000,000 + heterosexual women and 3,029,000,000 heterosexual men.

Applying that logic, there are several hundred women looking for YOU right now.


Just be confident.

Haha, this might be the worst place of all places to come to find stuff like this out from, but I need some help desperately.

I like this girl, and I know she likes me, but every time I am around here, I feel like I am dropping the ball.

How do I stop from falling into the friend zone with this one.

The next time you see her, show off your package. If she laughs, then you're doomed no matter what you do. If she goes "Oh...my.....God...." and start doing the Rosary, then you're in! :D

Advice I gave Black Kids a few weeks back:



Just be confident.

If this doesn't boost your ego, than having us believe in you can!

YES YOU CAN!!

The direct approach is the best. Simply go up to her and say "Hey, wanna go out with me sometime?"

Well, it worked for me.

The direct approach is the best. Simply go up to her and say "Hey, wanna go out with me sometime?"

Well, it worked for me.

*scoffs* Yea if you want to do it the boring way.

If this doesn't boost your ego, than having us believe in you can!

YES YOU CAN!!

http://images.homescape.com/national_content/mediawiki/thumb/9/93/Barack_Obama_head_shot2.jpg/180px-Barack_Obama_head_shot2.jpg
YES YOU CAN!


Nice try BK but you need a little bit more work ;)

The next time you see her, show off your package. If she laughs, then you're doomed no matter what you do. If she goes "Oh...my.....God...." and start doing the Rosary, then you're in! :D

No no no. What you do is build a full-size trebuchet in her honor. Then, you invite her out to your 1,000 acre ranch to throw cars, farm equipment, and barrels full of gasoline (while on fire) aimlessly just for fun.

After the school dance walk her over to your hot rod. After you open her door, hop over your own if it doesn't have a top, it's cooler that way. Then go out for milkshakes at the local burger joint where your buddy Mikey is flipping burgers till his army application goes through. After that take drive up Suicide Curve really fast, it may scare her, but scores bonus points. Once up at Lovers Peak, open your heart up to her. Tell her you just can't handle the old man any more, that you may have to sell your beloved hot rod and join the army with Mikey. Tell her if you were with a girl like her, it might not be so bad, you could settle down and all that. Make your move, she's not like the last few, no she's the one for you and she'll take some work. Have her home home by 10PM 'cause her dad is the sheriff/judge/other random important person in town and a tough nut to crack when it comes to his daughter. Don't worry champ, you'll get her in the end.

No no no. What you do is build a full-size trebuchet in her honor. Then, you invite her out to your 1,000 acre ranch to throw cars, farm equipment, and barrels full of gasoline (while on fire) aimlessly just for fun.

Dammit, now I want to build a full size Trebuchet.

I want to fling some dead cows onto roofs.

Dammit, now I want to build a full size Trebuchet.

I want to fling some dead cows onto roofs.

How about this weekend? I'm not doing anything.

The direct approach is the best. Simply go up to her and say "Hey, wanna go out with me sometime?"

Well, it worked for me.

Well, I made it all emotional:

"I've always thought you were beautiful from the first time I saw you. When I got to know you better, I always thought you're perfect, you're smart, funny, pretty, and nice. I can't believe that I'm actually asking you out, never thought I could do it... Well, I like you, alot. "

How do I stop from falling into the friend zone with this one.

Heh, if you're even thinking about the friend zone, you're probably in it. And if you are, you're pretty stuck.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Hell, don't even bother with baskets. Just keep juggling your eggs. Then when you're confident move to torches and knives.

And then do all of the above on a unicycle in a burning ring of fire. Metaphorically, of course.

Heh, if you're even thinking about the friend zone, you're probably in it. And if you are, you're pretty stuck.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Hell, don't even bother with baskets. Just keep juggling your eggs. Then when you're confident move to torches and knives.

And then do all of the above on a unicycle in a burning ring of fire. Metaphorically, of course.

You just described my first marriage.

How about this weekend? I'm not doing anything.

I'll bring the dead cows!

My friends say that our confusing romance reminds them of pam and jim, I have absolutely no idea what the hell that means though

http://images.homescape.com/national_content/mediawiki/thumb/9/93/Barack_Obama_head_shot2.jpg/180px-Barack_Obama_head_shot2.jpg
YES YOU CAN!


Nice try BK but you need a little bit more work ;)

I HOPE that him getting the girl would be a CHANGE for the better!

I HOPE that him getting the girl would be a CHANGE for the better!

Change he can believe in.

You just described my first marriage.

I get that all the time.

My friends say that our confusing romance reminds them of pam and jim, I have absolutely no idea what the hell that means though

The U.S. version of The Office.

Smoking. Take it up. It is both cool and tough and is sure to impress the ladies. But do it properly. Only pussies smoke lights. I recommend Winston red or Lucky strike.

Also start fist fights often and for no reason. Women find that highly desirable in a man. It's also a good idea to take up an unnecessarily violent sport, like rugby or boxing.

Finally, if you are still in school, drop out now. Nobody wants to date a nerd.

And commit crimes if you can. A criminal record teeming with felonies show her that you're assertive.

I get that all the time.

You forgot the part about juggling chainsaws that have been sabotaged to be off-balance, and this was supposed to be expected.

The U.S. version of The Office.

So what does that mean, they always tell me that I need to get out more when I ask them what that means

Sleep with her best friend. Women love it when you sleep with their best friend.

Oh, and wear copious amounts of Old Spice. Women love Old Spice.

Smoking. Take it up. It is both cool and tough and is sure to impress the ladies. But do it properly. Only pussies smoke lights. I recommend Winston red or Lucky strike.

Also start fist fights often and for no reason. Women find that highly desirable in a man. It's also a good idea to take up an unnecessarily violent sport, like rugby or boxing.

Finally, if you are still in school, drop out now. Nobody wants to date a nerd.

It is true that women like the assholes.

Which just means I'm not asshole-y enough!

It is true that women like the assholes.

Which just means I'm not asshole-y enough!

You're just directing it at us instead of them. You're fine, otherwise.

Dammit, now I want to build a full size Trebuchet.

I want to fling some dead cows onto roofs.



I think you'll be flinging them through roofs, rather than onto them.

Sleep with her best friend. Women love it when you sleep with their best friend.

Oh, and wear copious amounts of Old Spice. Women love Old Spice.

If you decide to take this route, remember to pop you collar as well. It's often overlooked by rookies.

I think you'll be flinging them through roofs, rather than onto them.

Even better, I'd make the Evening news!

"Today, several dead cows have crashed through several roofs. Could it be a UFO attack?!"

So what does that mean, they always tell me that I need to get out more when I ask them what that means

You know what, Google...

Seriously, you can both search the term The Office and see what it is, you can probably search 'how do I ask a girl out' and get some reasonable results, you can actually search for anything you don't know so you're not continuously showing yourself to be brainless all the time.

Said with the best of intentions of course...

Having said that, the simplest advice is the best: ask her out.

And commit crimes if you can. A criminal record teeming with felonies show her that you're assertive.

Sleep with her best friend. Women love it when you sleep with their best friend.

Oh, and wear copious amounts of Old Spice. Women love Old Spice.

These are also excellent tips.

You forgot the part about juggling chainsaws that have been sabotaged to be off-balance, and this was supposed to be expected.

Did I actually need to say that part? What, should I have walked him through The Cat in the Hat while I was at it? Christ, I shouldn't have to hold his hand through everything. He should know that part by now.

So what does that mean, they always tell me that I need to get out more when I ask them what that means

It's a TV show.

Smoking. Take it up. It is both cool and tough and is sure to impress the ladies. But do it properly. Only pussies smoke lights. I recommend Winston red or Lucky strike.

Also start fist fights often and for no reason. Women find that highly desirable in a man. It's also a good idea to take up an unnecessarily violent sport, like rugby or boxing.

Finally, if you are still in school, drop out now. Nobody wants to date a nerd.

lucky stirke. they still have those. i saw them advertised on some 50's tv i was watchign at christmas

but in all seriousness. sleep on her couch alot. thats my plan.

After the school dance walk her over to your hot rod. After you open her door, hop over your own if it doesn't have a top, it's cooler that way. Then go out for milkshakes at the local burger joint where your buddy Mikey is flipping burgers till his army application goes through. After that take drive up Suicide Curve really fast, it may scare her, but scores bonus points. Once up at Lovers Peak, open your heart up to her. Tell her you just can't handle the old man any more, that you may have to sell your beloved hot rod and join the army with Mikey. Tell her if you were with a girl like her, it might not be so bad, you could settle down and all that. Make your move, she's not like the last few, no she's the one for you and she'll take some work. Have her home home by 10PM 'cause her dad is the sheriff/judge/other random important person in town and a tough nut to crack when it comes to his daughter. Don't worry champ, you'll get her in the end.

Genius. But already posted on p. 2. Dunno if you meant to do that.

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but in all seriousness. sleep on her couch alot. thats my plan.

Haha. No.

You'll end up running all her errands while she goes away for the weekend with her boyfriend.

Go with the smoking.

lucky stirke. they still have those. i saw them advertised on some 50's tv i was watchign at christmas

but in all seriousness. sleep on her couch alot. thats my plan.

You'd make some cute girl a really good friend one day.

Lucky Strikes are damn fine cigarettes.

Especially the unfiltered ones.

You'd make some cute girl a really good friend one day.

i'd be a better bf than who she has now. trust me.

You'd make some cute girl a really good friend one day.

Not just any friend. Her best friend.

She could tell you anything, complain about her boyfriend being a jackass (but she still <3's him).

All the while you'll be pining for her, only she'll never notice because you're too much of a nice guy.

Just like a fucking brother.

Not just any friend. Her best friend.

She could tell you anything, complain about her boyfriend being a jackass (but she still <3's him).

All the while you'll be pining for her, only she'll never notice because you're too much of a nice guy.

Just like a fucking brother.

and then you say "fuck it" and leave her to wallow in her own damn Hell that she created herself, you tried to get her out, but she'd rather play the victim.

/bitter.

Lucky Strikes are damn fine cigarettes.

Especially the unfiltered ones.

Real men smoke unfilters roll-your-owns. Way stronger than tailors.

Not just any friend. Her best friend.

She could tell you anything, complain about her boyfriend being a jackass (but she still <3's him).

All the while you'll be pining for her, only she'll never notice because you're too much of a nice guy.

Just like a fucking brother.

Are you trying to say all brothers are trying to have sex with their sisters?

and then you say "fuck it" and leave her to wallow in her own damn Hell that she created herself, you tried to get her out, but she'd rather play the victim.

/bitter.

But then you feel sorry for her and go back because you still care about her, but it just keeps happening again and again.

Stupid goddamn fucking friend zone!

Are you trying to say all brothers are trying to have sex with their sisters?

Now you're just projecting.

...

Had hot sisters, huh?

Now you're just projecting.

...

Had hot sisters, huh?

No. I was just drawing conclusions because I thought YOU were projecting.

But then you feel sorry for her and go back because you still care about her, but it just keeps happening again and again.

Stupid goddamn fucking friend zone!

Trust me, you can break the curse of being a "Friend". Just get up and leave, don't talk to her, don't have any contact with her, no nothing. It'll hurt for awhile, but pretty soon, you start to feel good about yourself and you realize that you were never going to have a chance, and that all the "Hell" that she's going through with her boyfriend is her own damn fault.

Not just any friend. Her best friend.

She could tell you anything, complain about her boyfriend being a jackass (but she still <3's him).

All the while you'll be pining for her, only she'll never notice because you're too much of a nice guy.

Just like a fucking brother.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/friends.png

No. I was just drawing conclusions because I thought YOU were projecting.

No, no. I wouldn't dream of it.

So tell me more about your hot sisters.

Now you're just projecting.

...

Had hot sisters, huh?

I have a hot cousin....

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/friends.png

I love XKCD. I love it so hard.

I have a hot cousin....

Looking at your location, I say: go for it. Couldn't get any worse, after all. :D

Looking at your location, I say: go for it. Couldn't get any worse, after all. :D

Ugh!

Oh God...I may actually throw up.....dude...no...just no....

Now I have to take a hot shower in scalding hot water. Thanks for that mental image!

Ugh!

Oh God...I may actually throw up.....dude...no...just no....

Now I have to take a hot shower in scalding hot water. Thanks for that mental image!

You brought up the hot cousin topic, that's just asking for trouble... She a strawberry blonde or brunette?

Ugh!

Oh God...I may actually throw up.....dude...no...just no....

Now I have to take a hot shower in scalding hot water. Thanks for that mental image!

Oh, come on now. If you cross incest off the list, what's there left to do in the South? NASCAR? That gets old fast.

Oh, come on now. If you cross incest off the list, what's there left to do in the South? NASCAR? That gets old fast.

Coincidentally, Wilgrove had a thread not long back about motorsports.

He only has his cousin left to go.

first be yourself.
In the end you have nothing to offer but yourself, any lies or false images you present will come back to bite you in the ass.
second have fun. no point being with a girl if you cant have fun with her. yeah every moment in life cant be fun but if when every your near all that is concerned is are we going to date this is not relationship material.
three get to know her!!!Find out what she likes to do and ask her to come along with you doing it. This ties into two. Then be sure to pay for her.
four by this time you should be interested in each others hobbies and hanging out and if the chemistry is mutual you will be dating.

first be yourself.
In the end you have nothing to offer but yourself, any lies or false images you present will come back to bite you in the ass.
second have fun. no point being with a girl if you cant have fun with her. yeah every moment in life cant be fun but if when every your near all that is concerned is are we going to date this is not relationship material.
three get to know her!!!Find out what she likes to do and ask her to come along with you doing it. This ties into two. Then be sure to pay for her.
four by this time you should be interested in each others hobbies and hanging out and if the chemistry is mutual you will be dating.

I dunno, being someone else, then slowly revealing myself seems to work out for me before they realise I'm not a sensitive guy and really a negative bastard that's full of criticisms.

True story.

I dunno, being someone else, then slowly revealing myself seems to work out for me before they realise I'm not a sensitive guy and really a negative bastard that's full of criticisms.

True story.

there are plenty of girls who love A holes.

there are plenty of girls who love A holes.

Unfortunately not the ones I meet. I prefer to down play that part of my personality, anyway.

Unfortunately not the ones I meet. I prefer to down play that part of my personality, anyway.

look for girls looking for protection from assholes. they tend to go with an asshole guy because they figure that way they will only have to deal with one asshole.

and then you say "fuck it" and leave her to wallow in her own damn Hell that she created herself, you tried to get her out, but she'd rather play the victim.

/bitter.

Yup

Girls love pick-up lines. Google a bunch of those. The most common ones are probably your best bet.

Another good thing to know is, when it comes to what they want, women will tell the exact opposite of the truth. This is a good indicator of what they do want. Says she wants respect? Don't respect her. That way she'll be feeling like getting your respect is a goal, and you can use it to train her in Pavlovian ways. Or if she says she likes guys with a sense of humor? That means she sees humor as a sign of weakness, and appreciates a man who will become violent at the slightest jibe, however lightly meant, directed at himself or her. That's real romantic.

Oh yeah, and if she says anything good about 'romantic,' that means she wants to get drunk and screw.

Girls love pick-up lines. Google a bunch of those. The most common ones are probably your best bet.

Another good thing to know is, when it comes to what they want, women will tell the exact opposite of the truth. This is a good indicator of what they do want. Says she wants respect? Don't respect her. That way she'll be feeling like getting your respect is a goal, and you can use it to train her in Pavlovian ways. Or if she says she likes guys with a sense of humor? That means she sees humor as a sign of weakness, and appreciates a man who will become violent at the slightest jibe, however lightly meant, directed at himself or her. That's real romantic.

Oh yeah, and if she says anything good about 'romantic,' that means she wants to get drunk and screw.

/thread

Haha, this might be the worst place of all places to come to find stuff like this out from, but I need some help desperately.

I like this girl, and I know she likes me, but every time I am around here, I feel like I am dropping the ball.

How do I stop from falling into the friend zone with this one.

At the risk of repeating what others have said, ask her out. There is no special sex dance you can do that will suddenly make her throw her knickers at you, and no amount of willing and wishing will make her your girlfriend if you don't ask. Its really very very simple, despite how complicated it can feel. Ask. If she says no, move on.

If its clear you like her and want to ask her but don't, then its equally clear you don't have courage and that in itself can be off putting. The longer you don't act, the less likely you are to be successful. Go do it, now, and report back. Good luck :)

Girls just love it when try one of the following lines.

"I drive a Porsche - wanna come and shift my gears?"

"They call me Captain Kirk - wanna see the ship's log?"

"Come to daddy - he's got a really big lollipop"

"I'm a man, you're a woman - wanna come back to my place and see how loud I can make you scream?"

(disclaimer: the Archregimancy is not responsible for the physical assault that may result if you actually try to use any of the above seriously).


More seriously, there are ways - some of them regrettably subtle - through which a woman whom you're interested in may signal to you that she's interested in you as well. Lots of good conversation and regular eye contact leading to gentle flirtation is usually a good sign. Light physical contact, such as a placing a hand on your knee, during that conversation and flirting is usually a very good sign.

If the hand on knee accompanies talking about sex after three glasses of wine, you're in - but I suspect that you might be a bit young for that.

If the conversation, eye contact, light flirting, and light physical contact is occurring, do please summon up the courage to ask her out - she probably wants you to, but is still stuck in the 'women don't ask men out' paradigm.

Unfortunately, many women - with the best of intentions - try and find ways of letting down men gently when they know the man's interested in them (which they usually do) but those feelings aren't reciprocated, that send out slightly mixed messages. After all, few people really want to hurt someone else's feelings.

I'm not sure where you're based, but if you're based in North America, and she calls you 'sweet', she's probably just being polite. At that point, yes, you have reached 'friend' territory.


My qualifications for writing the above? Reader, I married her.

go up to her and say, "If I could suck my own cock, I would. But I can't, so you'll have to do it for me."
works like a charm, honest to god.

what- you expected reasonable advice?